More Gay Donors Drop Out of DNC Fundraiser, Protesting Justice Department Brief

I oppose any concept of human rights (human rights are the reason the species is spreading like cancer). But it does amuse me to watch people trip over their own ambitions, so I'll bite.

Obama doesn't have to have the correct stance on gay marriage (which, if you're stupid enough to ascribe some sacred value to individual human lives, is a right as much as any other). All he has to do is serve the purposes of a party which can be steered in that direction.

We're not talking about a man. Obama ceased to be a person the day he was elected. Now he's just a means to an end.

He may hold the incorrect stance, but he can be used to advance the cause of those who hold the correct stance. Kind of like how anti-war protests are always co-opted by open-borders advocates, so you can't oppose the war without accidentally arguing against border security.

The tactic is despicable, but human beings can't conduct themselves any other way and still breathe. So do it.

I am a glbt activist and stand proud with my brother and sister who are both gay. My family means more to me than some stupid religious ideal. More people should be this way. Go within yourself and want for someone else what you want for your SELF.

If you think the gay rights has any better chance with the republicans, think again. The religious right has no compassion for you and will never give you anything. Your only chance is with Obama. Palin, Boehner, Steele, Gingrich, etc. will never support you and your cause. Obama cannot give you same sex marriage, it can only come from the Senate and Congress. He does not believe in it but will not hinder you in any way. He does believe you should have the right to have your partner with you when you are ill and should be able to make decisions for you in case if illness. He is your only hope...so stop acting childish and realize what is true.

President Obama is a huge disappointment. His Justice Department is offensive. MLK must have turned over when he heard the words used against an oppressed minority. Too bad - I really thought there would be REAL change and the US Constitution would mean something. Makes one think we are really a Theocracy like Iran...only where the Christian Right call all the shots. Obviously, the generals will determine the DADT rule...wonder if they could now separate blacks from whites under the 'keeping disciple' idea. President Obama lost my 'next' vote. I don't believe in real change...obviously others make the rules. Even my (CA) senators Feinstein and Boxer don't either care or have any power to do the 'right' thing by ALL their citizens.

FACTUAL ERROR:
Vermont state senate president pro tem Peter Shumlin is married to a woman, so he's probably not gay, not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that.

Although he is handsome in an intellectual-farmer-legislator-Green-Mountain-Boy kinda way.

"And you can, as John Aravosis notes, add Vermont state senate president pro tem Peter Shumlin to the list of prominent gay and lesbian Democrats who will not be attending."

It is essential for gay people to withdraw their GENERAL support of the Democratic Party.

Someone mentions the Log Cabin Republicans - I actually joined them during my the time I was a registered Republican. Needless to say, with all the Bush's fiascos and selection of Palin I left that party in a sheer horror. The Log Cabin Republicans are well meaning but here in California we already have the most liberal Republican possible as a Governor. Not much more can be accomplished within the Republican Party.

The right approach is to support those of Democratic candidates who will fight for repeal of DOMA and, eventually, for same sex marriage as a federal law. Our neighbors in Canada and our 'special friends' in UK have that without any harm to anyone.

The latest Obama's crumb is by far insufficient. Obama, of course, has more important things to do at this time than to pay attention to any particular minority. Legislators, federal and state, however, should consider same sex marriages their high priority and by giving blindly money to DNC some of such people may be bypassed by the traditional politicos still in abundance in both parties.

As a 75 year old retiree I have no money to spare on any cause. So, probably, I just should stay out of this debate.

I was not completely clear; let me make that paragraph more descriptive.

Consider the DEMOCRAT history with the KKK and Margaret Sanger and voting AGAINST civil rights and blacks, and in favor of slavery. Yet, blacks vote 70+% for Democrats and voted 95 % for THIS Democrat. DEMOCRATS slyly pretend that the Republicans are KKK in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary!! Look up the history of the Democrats and the KKK; they are one and the same since 1865 until today; they are the "overtly racist" Democrats who have existed since the Civil War and do not want to change; like grand Kleagle and Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia. Or Denver Mayor Ben Stapleton (Democrat) who marched in a KKK parade in the 1930s wearing his white hood and robe. Or Strom Thurmond who was a Democrat AND KKK until he renounced both and became ex-KKK and Republican. COMPARE CONCRETE EVIDENCE against CHEAP WORDS!! You will change your mind if you are honest; but, if you want to lie to yourself you have no one to blame!

I think the anger amoung other Democrats towards the gay community is a scream. Here you all are depending on our votes and money (especially money) to help bring the Democrats into power - so that your agenda will finally go forward - but once in power you tell us to shut-up and the heck with our agenda. You guys actually tell us we don't matter and don't you dare get mad about it either and leave us. Well guess what? I say if us gays leaving the Democratic party helps enable the GOP to retake power, then so be it. I don't care if you think I'm selfish. Perhaps if the Dems loose power, next time the rest of the Democrats will realize they had better actually quit being selfish little chickens and give the GLBT equal rights.
There are so many other wonderful things the gay community can give to besides throwing good money after bad into the low-down and crummy DNC. This is an exciting and historic time as the GLBT community finally ceases to be slaves to one particular political party. If anything, it might be that our group is simply be ahead of the curve than most other groups in seeing what a corporate scam these two parties really are.
Who should we join? I say anyone you want. It won't take too many lost elections for one of the parties (most likely the Dems) to come crying to us for some $$ and votes. Good riddance Democratic party!
P.S. - Straight people are always welcome to leave these two corporate parties too and form other parties so we finally have more than two of the same to choose from. :)

Chester: Same sex marriage is NOT a right, so your quote does not apply.

If you think that blackmail is a viable political technique, you have an odd notion of America; this is not the Middle East or Eastern Europe or even a banana republic.

You have tunnel vision and have rejected critical thought! In fact, the Republican Party is the party of individual rights and liberties. The Democrat Party is the party of liars and pretenders who tell anything just to get elected! [The Republicans have a distinct disadvantage; they are not allowed to lie so they go into every race with one hand tied behind their back; I’m amazed any of them get elected, in view of their morals clause.]

Consider their history with the KKK and Margaret Sanger and voting AGAINST civil rights and blacks, and in favor of slavery. Yet, blacks vote 75% for Democrats and voted 95 % for THIS Democrat. They “pretend” that the Republicans are KKK in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. How is that possible? Even public votes and public protestations do not convince them! How dumb can they be?

Consider the rate that blacks vote AGAINST homosexuality and AGAINST same-sex marriage! LOOK at the vote in California and compare the votes in the black districts!!!

Consider (really consider) that OBAMA AND SOTOMAYOR are both SECRETLY PRO-LIFE . . . . BECAUSE . . . . HE KNOWS THAT ABORTION KILLS MORE BLACKS (as a percentage) than any other color and we know he is a racist . . . AND SHE IS SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING FEMALES ABORTED. . . period!

Chester; rather than fuming, and trying to "get even" try some profound thinking! Ask the Log Cabin Republicans!

“I don't give a damn about your lack of religion or that you don’t care what God intended, I want majority rights and you had damn well better get out of my way, there is no place in my world for a xxxxxx.”

Harley: Do you like that paraphrase of your nasty statement? Is it not illustrative of why arguments are won by objective issues, and not by subjective opinion? We can call names, and make threats, all day long, but that settles absolutely nothing. Understanding, kindness, and respect are called for on BOTH sides, not your bullying steamroller tactics that do nothing but inflame!

"A right delayed is a right denied." -MLK

Obama's cowardice on gay rights is abominable. Shame on him. The gay community has every right to be angry and withhold their dollars.

Is the ONLY attitude from the gay community anger and hatred and lack of respect for the difference of opinion?

IOW, is their ONLY response one of intolerance?

I have one thing to say to the gay people who are complaining that Obama is not giving them attention. I know how you have suffered and I can relate to your feelings but do you really think that your priorities are more important than two wars,a sinking economy,the banks, health care, the auto crisis? Let's put them into perspective. Obama will keep his promise to you but he DOES have other priorities. It took many of you a long time to come out of the closet and I am glad as it is a better inviornment for you than years ago. Things will change...it will take a little more time....please have just a little more patience. You are acting like a child who takes his toys away when he does not get attention. How much attention did you get under the Bush regeime? None. Obama will not let you down...I promise you.

I think if all gay persons across America stopped giving money to all campaigns/politicians and all charities, social clubs it would be the best way to get results. All organizations WANT money now: colleges, parks, hospitals, churches--and they rely heavily on contributions made by gays. Just how much so could be enough to prove they are a major cotillion to not be treated like rogue citizens.

Would someone address the argument that if the government recognizes same-sex marriages, then it will also have to recognize incestuous marriage?

I don't give a damn about your religion and what you think God intended, I want my civil rights and you had damn well better get out of my way, there is no place in my world for a bigot.

Christian man....you do know of course that males and females create more gay people and in the absence thereof, we can always use lesbian surrogate mothers to continue procreation if straights like you don't want to, another reason why procreation is not the primary reason for marriage.

You're reacting the way you do because you can't stomach the fact that you and your kind are losing the cultural war. You need to check out and see if you live by what scripture states. I strongly suspect you don't but single out one or two references to justify discrimination, references that were ALL written by jewish males.

You are aware of course, in the jewish part of the bible, the old testament, incest occurred among the children of "the first parents of the human race" Adam & Eve some 6,000 years ago. In order to have populated the planet they MUST have have indulged in incest with their children and their children among themselves many times over, males and females of course. Have fun reading your bible.

Perhaps the time has come based on the above posts for us to remember that one of the ideals of how our government was based is on separation of church and state. Keep your religious views in your family and your church...keep them out of my governmental rights. Personally, I lost all of my assets, pension and social security rights when my partner of 15 years died. We had wills power of attorney, living wills, you name it...I had no RIGHTS after 15 years I DID NOT MATTER. Being married would have taken care of that as it did for my mother when my father died. I think the time has come for the government to call all "marriages" civil unions with the same benefits to all. Keeps the narrow minded church fanatics out of the situation completely. If you want to get "married" let it be some cutsy church thing...the governmental end of the union would be "civil" for all.

Socialism = poverty: "And your example of hospitals is beyond silly. You dont need marriage to get that ability" I'm not sure where you live but you do need marriage to get that ability in Cali. Believe me I've been thru it. I'm not sure where you get your data on Scandinavia. From what I've read the out of wed lock birth rate is due to heterosexuals choosing to cohabitate rather than marry. Again all this would be solved if you tried to outlaw divorce. But I don't see anyone jumping on that wagon. How do you know what is going to happen if you don't even give gays the chance. I don't believe in your idea of marriage. So I will continue to fight for what I believe are my rights as a US citizen.

KR.. you have a good point. Personally I'm fine with any good name for it.