“Yes We Can” (?): President Obama Brings Back Campaign Slogan for Health Care Reform Battle

There has to be a better way to get control of the cost of health care than to nationalize it. The bozo's in the Government can't even walk and chew gum at the same time and everything they touch turns into a Trillion dollar boondoggle filled with corruption, waste, graft and mismanagement! NO THANK YOU!!!!

Note to Obama: Keep your incompetent mitts OFF our health care and figure out a way to cover the 25 million who need it, instead of penalizing the 85% of the population who are happy with their health care, except for the cost.
Try Tort Reform and Watchdogs.....oh, scratch that. You just fired one of the watchdogs! Silly me!

would you believe 14 months?

Sandcrab, we need not look beyond our borders to see how messed up government-run healthcare can be. Our own Veterans Administration, "the best health care system in the world" according to politicians, needs to be threatened with lawsuits to perform according to their own published guidelines, and even so they take 14 minths to pay bills.

YES WE CAN! Fool them again and again and again. The 54 percentile will continue to sing our praises much as the band on the Titanic played on and on.

"When asked in a new Harris Poll how strongly they support 14 different government services, five services receive strong, or a fair amount of support, from about three-fourths of all adults or more. The five most popular services are The National Parks Service (85% support), Crime-fighting and prevention services (77%) Medicare (76%), Social Security (76%), and Unemployment benefits (74%).

These are the results of a nationwide survey of 1,718 adults surveyed online between November 15 and 22, 2005 by Harris Interactive®."

"Q: Should I count on Social Security for all my retirement income?

A: No. Social Security was never meant to be the sole source of income in retirement. "

Social Security has always been intended as a base safety net and never as the entirety of a retirement plan.

With regards to banking... Do you mean
the Banking Act of 1933? There remains considerable disagreement among scholars regarding the importance of monetary policy in precipitating the depression. There is simply no way to resolve the issue. I'll say po-TAY-to and you'll say po-TAH-to and Dan Quale will spell it potatoe, most likely thinking of the plural potatoes.

Support for a service does not necessarily mean that it gets high ratings for its performance.

Social Security, which enjoys very strong support (76%) is rated 73 percent negative and 27 percent positive.

Rated higher? The National Parks Service (85% support) and Crime-fighting and prevention services (77%).

Since it is a pyramid scheme where new recruits must pay in enough to cover existing members pay out, our children may be faced with the choice of paying retirement benefits to their parents or paying for programs that help their own children.

Social Security, no matter how "popular", is no longer sustainable.

From the SSA website FAQ's:

Q: Should I count on Social Security for all my retirement income?

A: No. Social Security was never meant to be the sole source of income in retirement.

"We are paying in to this system still today (our first foray into socialism) and the Social Security system is about to finally collapse under the weight of millions of baby boomers entering retirement"

By far the most popular government program enacted in this country.

I support removing the cap on payroll taxes though I know the Obama admin may feel differently.

"Padma, read up on the Great Depression. It was extended by government intervention. Search "How Government Prolonged the Depression" a WSJ article and read it with a liberal, open mind."

Yes because a WSJ editorial is free of bias!

Unemployment dropped over 10 points under the beginning of the New Deal.

When FDR ratcheted back spending the economy fell back a bit in the late 30's, not fully recovering until the MASSIVE GOVENRMENT SPENDING that occurred during WW2.

"In 1936, Social Security taxes were withheld for the first time. Consumer spending dropped, the economy tanked and unemployment shot up to 22%."

In 1936, Economic recovery continues: GNP grows a record 14.1 percent; unemployment falls to 16.9 percent.

That's the economy "tanking".

Perhaps you meant 1938?

The year-long recession makes itself felt: the GNP falls 4.5 percent, and unemployment rises to 19.0 percent.

Or maybe you just made the numbers up.

Wherewasthepress- Banking bail-out vs. stimulus package - You are talking about the stimulus package and comparing it to the New Deal. I was talking banking.

"Learn about the Great Depression and what happens with the lack of Government intervention in a banking crisis, the core of this recession."

Padma, read up on the Great Depression. It was extended by government intervention. Search "How Government Prolonged the Depression" a WSJ article and read it with a liberal, open mind.

One little known fact you might be interested in learning. In 1937, the stock market crashed again almost as drastically as in 1929. Why? In 1936, Social Security taxes were withheld for the first time. Consumer spending dropped, the economy tanked and unemployment shot up to 22%.

The money skimmed out of people's paychecks didn't reenter the economy until 1940.

The first recipient? A woman named Ida who paid in $22. She lived to be 100 and collected over $22,000 in payments.

We are paying in to this system still today (our first foray into socialism) and the Social Security system is about to finally collapse under the weight of millions of baby boomers entering retirement. It will collapse as all pyramid schemes eventually do.

NO YOU CAN'T...We won't stand for this. America wants Obama to help stablilize the economy and anyone with half a brain knows that government run medicine will be a disaster economically and will compromise the quality of care.

WherewasthePress- Learn about the Great Depression and what happens with the lack of Government intervention in a banking crisis, the core of this recession. Then be thankful only 6 people in your family are facing unemployment versus all of them.

You posted this in response to a post on Healthcare. Are you aware the skyrocketing cost of medical care is threatening corporate profits and employers ability to hire and keep personnel?

btw - ABC/WashPO poll yesterday has Obama's popularity at 65%

In February, at the height of Obama's popularity, 59% of Americans still agreed with Reagan's statement "government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem."

America wanted a change of leadership but not necessarily a change in America. They wanted to feel post-racial and cool. In reality, they also wanted something for nothing. That's what campaign rhetoric and promises inspire in us, our own self-interests dressed up in selfless platitudes and in the guise of helping "others" with all the pleasure and none of the pain and a wink and a nod to "shared" sacrifice.

Well, America is in a world of hurt right now. I can count six in my family who have lost or are in danger of losing their jobs in the past three months, from wait staffing to sales to engineering. Neighbors have lost jobs and are selling their homes due to financial difficulties.

Does anyone see the frivolity and vacuity of the phrase "Yes, we can!" now?

Like Obama himself, it was a blank slate that millions wrote their own ideas and ideals onto. I wouldn't bring this call-and-response rhetoric into actual governing, and I certainly would not bring it into the very real, tangible and definable health care debate.

I have read that the Indian health care system is one of the sorriest in the country and that a lot of the Indians are not receiving the health care that they deserve or are entitled. Now this is a completely government run health care plan and has been for years and years.
the beauty of America is having the options to make choices. w/gov't run, you don't have that choice.

"Medicare covers up to $2,700 in yearly prescription costs and then stops. And the coverage starts back up when the costs exceed $ 6,100. Which means between $2,700 and $6,100, folks are out of luck. This gap in coverage has been placing a crushing burden on many older Americans who live on fixed incomes"

This is a lie. Before the prescription drug plan was created, they had NO drug coverage at all, the burden already existed. In fact they were responsible for the entire cost of medicines. The truth is that the program EASED the burden for that first $2700.

Obamacare=Utilitarian bioethics. A culling of the herd. How will you feel when your Mother's life is deemed expendable because some government accountant thinks treating her is too expensive for the years she has left? Seeing most of you are "progssives", you would probably do a happy dance!

They should be looking at reforming the insurance companies and drug companies and how hospitals are reimbursed instead of spending billions reinventing the wheel. National health care WILL cause a shortage of doctors and WILL cost alot of money up front. I don't have it.

nancy . ...

I'm sure you'd prefer Health, Energy and Education come under the control of corporations.