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'My Cousin In Kenya Can't Get a Job Without Paying a Bribe': Obama Tells African Leaders to Get Their Houses in Order
July 10, 2009 8:05 AM
ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report:
L'AQUILA, ITALY -- In a meeting this morning with the leaders of Egypt, Algeria, Senegal, Nigeria, Libya and Ethiopia, President Obama spoke about his personal connections to both Africa and poverty, and according to a top White House aide, "you could have heard a pin drop."
After describing a food security initiative that the president and other G-8 leaders have been working on, the president talked about development and the importance of governance.
"He shared a personal story," said deputy National Security Adviser Michael Froman. "Everyone knows that his father was from Kenya, that he still has relatives living in poverty, and that while he’s President of the United States he feels poverty in a very personal way because of this of his family situation."
Froman recounted that the president shared that when his father, Barack Obama Sr., came to the United States from Kenya, Kenya's GDP was higher than Korea's.
"Obviously much has happened since then and he wanted to make it clear that the problems that Africans face weren’t just a product of colonialism or past history," Froman said, "that this partnership -- whether it's over food security or other development ideas -- require local governments to take responsibility seriously. This wasn’t a time to make excuses. And that it was important to join together in a clear-eyed way."
As the president put it, Froman went on, "his cousin in Kenya cant find a job without paying a bribe, and that’s not the fault of the G-8. And when companies can’t operate without paying, in some parts of Africa, without paying the 25 percent fee off the top in bribes, that’s not colonialism."
The president said, Froman said, recounting from his contemporaneous notes, "that it is important to think about people on the ground who are focused not about who’s at fault on how to survive in Africa’s situation but are focused on how to survive and succeed and provide for their families and in that context he emphasized the importance of transparency, openness, and efficiency."
It's important, the president told the African leaders, that development programs are implemented so they "reach people who really need them, that the assistance actually gets to the farmers and the farmers benefit from this. That was the point he made. You could have heard a pin drop in the room. Several following speakers noting that they thought it was a very moving remark and thanked him for sharing his personal story with them. And I think it helped define the seriousness of the discussion and the importance of the subject."
In a press conference following the meeting, President Obama acknowledged the remarks. "The point I was making was that my father traveled to the United States a mere 50 years ago yet now I have family members who live in villages, they themselves are not going hungry but they live in villages where hunger is real. And so this is something that I understand in very personal terms. And if you talk to people on the ground in Africa, certainly in Kenya, they will say that part of the issue here is the institutions aren’t working for ordinary people and so governance is a vital concern that has to be addressed."
By bringing up the example of South Korea, the president said, he was trying to make the point that "the South Korean government working with the private sector and civil society was able to create a set of institutions that provided transparency and accountability and efficiency that allowed for extraordinary economic progress. And that there was no reason why many African countries could not do the same."
-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
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Look, most of the Kenyans I know are very hard working people. They have done the very best to make sure that their kids go to school and get the best out of nothing. I come from the Rift-Valley. The land is very fertile and accessible to all farmers. The problem in Kenya is not the common fox, it is the politicians that have just distroyed the country. The fameres in my area wont plant enough groups anymore to sell in the open markets because the government regulates the prices and the farmer does not break even at the end of the year. It cost about $50 to buy a bag of fertilizer but the end result,the farmer will sell his harvest for less that $50.
There is no drought in Kenya, the politicians are using it because they want the money to missused.
Posted by: sammy | Jul 22, 2009 7:05:45 PM
There are over 3,500 operatives in the US masquerading as students or on H1B visas [special work visas] for the sole purpose of getting jobs in American manufacturing or defense industries for the sole purpose of stealing secrets
Posted by: US Citizen | Jul 17, 2009 10:18:38 PM
H1B folks steal confidential US projects into India.
Posted by: A US CITIZEN | Jul 17, 2009 5:30:17 PM
Indian companies are bribing the US Senators to keep the H1B.
H1B Folks stealing US Projects into India. Especially people working for
Cognizant, Satyam, Infosys, TCS, Wipro
These companies must be banned from doing business in US. Most of the federal Government Agencies are filled with H1B IT Folks. These people from a differnt country should be working in our Government. H1B Folks Steal confidential data as OPM Does not clear them properly as most of these folks have fake experiences. OPM does not verify experiences posted in india. Most of them are fake any way. This whole H1B program and L1B programs should be banned from our society
Posted by: A US CITIZEN | Jul 17, 2009 5:28:36 PM
Yes that's right Indians do live on floor because these is a scientific reason for that. Sleeping on plain floor will never cause back pain. You dumb Americans you will never know this and that's the reasons you have worlds most disables(Please check it). Secondly, We live 8 people in one apartment because one reason is Indians are not raise to live Introverts like Americans. We would never like to be sick and take medical help just because of being alone. Check that most of your citizens get a pet just so that they don't feel alone in homes.
We do transfer money back to India because that is our right to do it, after We pay taxes as much as your government demands from our work money/salary. First of all your employers hire us just because we are oke to work on low salary. After that your government asks for taxes(Still its ok), now you have problem with us sending money back to our country. What does your country wants then? Slaves? We Indians are the people who live with pride and not like beggars and so we save money for rainy days. American live on Credit and this is the main reason you are facing such recession. Have you ever heard of Indian company affected or firing employees due to recession. That's called best economic strategy. Your senators do know the impact on USA not having Indian IT workers or workforce. Tell me honestly what does USA produce on your own? Beer? or prostitutes? We Indians are self independent for the basic things like Food, Shelter and clothing we don't need USA for that. But think of the recessions you had in USA before, there were problems getting a single bread for US citizens.
See how many times you have been hit by recession and how many more times you will be having recession just because of dumb Americans. Now check if India is in Debt of USA or viceversa
We all other countries are paying you guyz money so that you can party hard on weekends, but things are not going to be same always.
Some facts: 2020 India will be the youngest country in the world, that means India will have the majority of its population between 20-35 years of age. With each Individual learned the best knowledge in the world including Business,tech, science, agri anything. This will increase the productivity of India much more times than any country has ever seen in the world till now. Major Work will be in Technology, IT, Medicine. But still we Indians(according to our good culture and upbringing) do not consider others inferior or our self superior and will strive for the best of mankind be it working for NASA or ISRO we will have our people go places just for good of the world.
Posted by: Kaps | Jul 15, 2009 6:03:48 PM
ban all H1b and L1 Visa holders from the Governent contracts. Most of the IT jobs in federal Government are filled by these folks. Which the senators disagree.
All federal Goverment agencies need to reveal how many h1b and l1 visa's they hold including sub contracts.
The OPM(Office of Personnel Management) does not want to reveal the H1b and L1 Visa holders as they are afriad that Americans very be mad.
Posted by: A US Citizen | Jul 14, 2009 11:03:51 AM
H1B and L1 Visa holders suck the american economy. These folks need to be banned in america. Instead they should open more doctors from other countries to enter into us.
H1B and L1 Visa holders don't buy any american products either. They just buy every thing from the Indian Stores. from Soaps to Groceries.
These people sleep on the floor. Outwardly they come dressed nicely to work. But Inward if you go their apartments they live like 8 folks in one apartment. Never clean apartments. Their apartments stick. As no body like to spend money on any thing. The sleep on the floors. All the momey they make they transfer to india
The money they make is completely transferred to india. and most likely be invested in indian rea estate.
The people fool americans by posting messages like " without h1b folks america is into dungeon"
Posted by: A US Citizen | Jul 14, 2009 11:00:19 AM
I am Kenyan. Its about time Africa is not judged by what is happening but by how far we have come. Fact; Congo has never had peace because the only stable president it ever had was assassinated by the CIA (President Patrice Lumumba). Africa was left to burn look at Rwanda, Sudan....even intervention of apartheid was delayed & the USA just became interested in Africa after it was China was really interested. Bottom line UN Human Development indicators are improving for most African counties and that is an improvement. We still have a long way but we are heading the right way democracy is improving, corruption is decreasing and US help to Africa is not detectable. China have genuine help and we have faith we will prevail.
Posted by: Kenkinax | Jul 13, 2009 11:17:20 PM
Sounds like Illinois, Mr President!LOL!
Posted by: reaganfan | Jul 13, 2009 2:43:38 PM
Rather than commenting on jobs taken by Indians by IT companies, Americans should make a self assessment. Is you current generation or youth capable just now of filling up the positions that Indians work. Current American generation is struggling just to learn calculus and math, how can a employer give them jobs when you have a better option and that to at less cost. At last companies look at their profits. I would also like to say that does these H1 people don't pay taxes to US government, No IT companies has a dream to come to this country and setup their offices here but are your engineers capable enough to maintain the products that you buy from India.
E.g. If xyz bank buys "Finacle" which is a financial software product by a renowned IT company in India and after the product is purchased the banks don't even know to or have engineers that can make a proper setup of core banking then its obvious this IT company from India have to support the bank for which they will need Visa to send their people to US. These companies send them via L1 visa or get H1 if the project is going to take more time.
After All this the Workers in US are so DUMB that they don't even know how to operate this software's which in India even a school kid can use. For this they need tech support, These Dumb people call call Centers in India and after this US people will say Call Centers are shifted to India and We should stop Outsourcing. Its a common saying in India a 26 years old American is same a 6 years old kid in India. They both have the same intellectual power.
Posted by: Kaps | Jul 13, 2009 2:08:34 PM
Americans already have their jobs back! HB1 visa holders have had to leave/those who are eligible and are highly qualified are finding it impossible to get any employer to hire them due to the backlash and TARP. So, if Americans are unable to find new employment, as much as I feel for them, they need to find some solution rather than find another scapegoat.
However, this is what I have to say: If Americans want all foreign workers out of their country the same should apply to Americans living in foreign countries. Companies in Singapore, Tokyo, Hong Kong, mainland China and London should all revisit the Americans on their payroll. Most locals in these countries working in IT or in financial institutions are all highly educated from the best schools in the world and have comparable skills to Americans. Furthermore, for the countries where a second language is necessary many Americans have not learned the local language whether it is Japanese or Chinese. (I have yet to hear of a H1B visa holder who cannot speak, read or write English). Job offers extended for Americans in all those countries should be rescinded. Americans can all go home back to America and then take the jobs that have been vacated by the H1B visa holders. Unfortunately there are thousands of Americans working in the countries above so the positions vacated by the H1B visas will not be sufficient to cover them. I am sure all the Americans in America who are clamoring for the H1B visa program to be terminated can clearly explain the logic to their fellow Americans coming home. It should not be a one way street. If Americans treat foreign nationals in a certain way the way the respective foreign nations treat Americans when they are in a foreign country should be along the same lines. America is a great place to work for an ambitious person but so is the rest of the world and what seems to escape most Americans is that there are thousands of Americans living and working in a foreign county on a work visa granted to them.
Posted by: hb1 | Jul 12, 2009 8:26:49 PM
I'm from Kenya and i found the "My cousin in Kenya can't get a job without Bribing comment " really lame. I'm really tired of the lame Kenya bashing by Obama, Ghanaians and the news media. I'm from Kenya and have never bribed anyone to get a job. I mean Obama's been to Egypt and now Ghana. Really are these two countries the best examples of democratic countries in Africa?
I mean before Kenya had the election fracas, we supposedly had many things going well for us. Ghana had a military Junta for many years. Egypt is basically a dictatorship. All along Kenya has had peaceful elections.
Ghanas GDP is slightly more than half Kenyas GDP. You can't compare Kenya and Ghana. Ghana will probably improve with the newly discovered oil, but history has proved otherwise, especially with money hungry western companies now converging on Ghana.
Kenyan citizens both peasants and the huge Kenyan middle class should be praised for not allowing Kibaki to get away with his election theft. The killings that happened were mostly instigated by the government. Govt soldier shot at innocent citizens demonstrating the election theft. How is the assertiveness displayed by Kenyan citizens a bad thing?
Don't get me wrong guys killings happened which were wrong, but they were instigated mostly by the government soldiers and govt sponsored gangs shooting at innocent citizens. Revenge killings were mostly done by bitter citizens who were mad at the govt killing their tribal members especially Luos and Kalenjins.
I also believe avoiding Africa's most important countries and visiting Ghana only wasn't wise for him. Why avoid problems or problem states( Nigeria, Kenya or South Africa), which by the way some of the most important African countries?
Posted by: Al | Jul 12, 2009 2:52:59 PM
Obama wouldn't have a job either, had a LOT of people not been bribed.
Posted by: Gotterdammerung | Jul 12, 2009 8:34:37 AM
The H-1b visa is the called the "outsourcing" visa by high government officials in India. The H-1b visa is being used by Indian IT outsourcing companies to remove whole departments to India, thereby removing millions of U.S. jobs.
Indian IT companies are practicing discrimination, because they are not even looking for U.S. engineering candidates to fill jobs on U.S. soil, unless pressured by Congress. These companies have U.S. based workforces that are 90% Indian citizens, yet these companies say they need more H-1b visa. Ridiculous, is this so they can run more H-1b-only job ads, U.S. citizens need not apply to a job on U.S. soil?
More than 1-in-5 h-1b visa applicants are here fraudulently, they are not qualified and they are stealing a job from a U.S. citizen.
We need to stop and reform the H-1b visa program, a program that is used by foreign companies to remove millions of U.S. jobs and allow massive open discrimination to occur against U.S. citizens for jobs on U.S. soil.
Posted by: jerry yang | Jul 11, 2009 8:42:31 PM
Seems like his friend from Chicago Tony Rezko couldn't get a job without a bribe either. But after he helped the Obamas buy that house, the work came pouring in.
Posted by: Terry | Jul 11, 2009 8:06:15 PM
Some one here connecting H1B/L1 visa with foreclosures and calling it common sense. The reason whole world is in recession is because American banks did way too much with sub prime mortgages becoz of sheer greediness. This has nothing to do with H1B/L1 visas, on the other hand if the H1B candidates are not harassed by USCIS with their uncertainty of processing times and policies, they can stimulate the economy by spending on housing market.
Posted by: Common Nonsense | Jul 11, 2009 5:55:39 PM
President Obama is not really aware about conditions in Africa, having never lived there. In my country and probably in most African countries, bribery and corruption at the highest echelon of government is endemic, but that is not even the worst of the ills. Let me list a few key grievances: the suppression of human rights, lack of freedom to express oneself, write or demonstrate; absence of the rule of law; and, under the pretext of transparency and accountability, civil society institutions have been undermined through new repressive laws, which international human rights organizations and multilateral and bilateral donor agencies have condemned.
Posted by: zenash | Jul 11, 2009 1:30:07 PM
Awww, isn't that too bad? I bet o'l Cuz could make him a Czar of something.
Posted by: amybeth | Jul 11, 2009 1:04:18 PM
Talk about bribes. What were the congresspeople promised to pass the cap and trade? How come more stiumulus money went to the areas that voted for Obama? Who will be given the energy "grants" and the healthcare "grants?" Grants is another word for bribe. Let's clean up our own backyard before telling others how to run their countries.
Posted by: m vale | Jul 11, 2009 11:16:11 AM
KEW:
You need not respect rotten, selfish leaders in Africa or in the United States.
Obama is a corrupt thug. I do not respect him as a person. I am not required to do so. I respect the office he occupies.
Posted by: tanarg | Jul 11, 2009 11:10:27 AM
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