Democratic National Committee Suggests Town Hall Protestors are Fringe Birther Mob

A national healthcare system going to be fraught with waste, fraud and
inefficiencies and VERY EXPENSIVE.
'...welcome to the [company of]
the other first world nations'!

What we currently see and hear is Americans saying no to programs they feel will weaken the Union. Americans were clearly ignored when the Stimulus bill passed. The American consenus was clear yet ignored. Town-Hall disruptions are the result of politicians voting contrary to their constutient's wishes. Taxation without representation.

The way to thwart the disruptions of public meetings is to have the official in a neighboring private office where he can meet one-on-one with each person.

Rachel said "You people are unbelievable. Finally, finally someone comes along who wants to help you, even just a little bit.".

What?

My cost of living has increased significantly since Obama has taken office, and I only make $10 an hour. This is pure, unadulterated personal experience, so obviously I'm not arguing empirical data, but if he has my best interest at heart, why the hell am I always broke? If I refuse to take government handouts, and continue driving my 1989 Toyota, in a few years it will be nearly impossible to find parts for it. The alternative is to get further into debt by buying a new car. Why would I want to do that when I'm already in too much debt as it is? Frankly, you people are unbelievable. I like having choices, and I like to not be in debt, thank you very much. I don't want to rely on the government to help me every step of the way because I absolutely hate dealing with sprawling pedantry and stupid, unconcerned public employees. Why would I want to deal with that? Why the hell is everyone so obsessed with power these days? Give it a rest, please.

You people are unbelievable. Finally, finally someone comes along who wants to help you, even just a little bit. Sure, he may be in bed with Goldman Sachs like every other president before him and he may take money from lobby groups like every other president before him, but at least he's trying to bring you up to the standards of all other first world nations. And what do you do? You buy into the malarkey that crooked politicians and corporations are feeding you. You fight the first administation that's had any sense of public good. I can't say that you deserve what you get because I know you're being duped by people with way more money than you'll ever have, but it's hard to watch you fight your own interests.

I keep hearing that the people who are attending these townhall meetings should be more respectful. Strange, I don't recall any of the Democats being respectful suring the previous Adminstration. THAT IS INCLUDING THE PRESS!!!!! I keep hearing how these are PAID aggitators. So, what were the crowds like ACORN, et al. doing the last few elections and are they being "respectful" of Sarah Palin and her family or former President Bush? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!

Again, when are you going to realize, we don't want this bill, didn't want Cap and Tax, didn't want illegal aliens covered, didn't want "Stimulus", we want our country and freedom, not a socialistic state/

The message is loud and clear -- we don't want it!

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6, 2009 2:04:51 PM

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Anonymous, If that's your stance, I agree that message is getting across (although I would argue the reasons why and the arguments for that stance are getting completely lost) However, a lot of conservatives and independents-- and some democrats, too-- are saying they want reform but not THIS reform. They want different reform. I think a wide range of people with a wide range of opinions want to be heard and not shut out or shouted down by either Congress and the Admin on one side OR the angry crowds on the other.

Napa Valley Register via Alyson: "For health care reform critics or anyone in political life to get their message across effectively, our message is that they should choose a more substantive and respectful approach."

While I agree that town hall meeting attendees should be respectful, their message against Obama's healthcare plan is plenty "effective" as is evident by the reaction of the left (including the White House of course). The message is loud and clear -- we don't want it! If Democrats don't want to hear this now, they will hear it in 2010 and 2012. Either way, they are going to hear it!

For people who want another picture of a town hall meeting, you may want to check out the editorial in the Napa Valley Register, a paper which endorsed McCain. While I do understand some of the upset over this-- everyone has a right to voice their concerns--I also agree with the bottom line in the editorial in regards to the vitriol and catcalling and disruption (and I don't mean all criticism or questions-- I'm talking about the truly disruptive stuff, that stops actual meaningful debate). Here's what they wrote:

"Monday’s event was out of character for Napa County political clashes, even hotly contested ones. In our view, most politically active people here have better sense than to debase the debate that way.

Unbridled anger is not a substitute for intelligent discussion. Catcalls are not replacements for hard questions and criticism.

For health care reform critics or anyone in political life to get their message across effectively, our message is that they should choose a more substantive and respectful approach."

What Ruy fails to point out is that requiring ins companies to sell health ins to those with preexisting conditions is NOT the same as requiring ins companies to sell coverage they can afford. A friend with preexisting conditions was just offered health insurance. The monthly premium? $3,600. That's a per month figure, not a yearly or semi-annual figure. The current health care bill puts NO cap on the premium ins companies can charge to those with preexisting conditions. And it only offers assistance paying those premiums to low income people -- many of whom are low income because they are drug addicts or alcoholics. Do you think those answering this poll question knew there was no cap in the bill on what insurance companies can charge?

Again, people who answer affirmative to this question were not told the definition of "those who can't afford it." If you read the health care bill, it clearly says the definition of "those who can't afford it" is the same as those currently eligible for other government assistance. A self-emplyed carpenter making $42,000 per year would not be eligible. Nor would anyone making $42,000 per year be eligible. Can anyone making $42,000 per year afford to pay $3,600 per month for insurance?

Raising taxes on "the rich" is all well and good until the stock market takes a tumble and tax revenues plummet. Just ask Governor Schwarzenegger about taxing the rich and how it's affected California's budget.

80% of jobs are created by small businesses. Do you really want to drive them out of business? Do those taking this survey really understand the ins and outs of running a business?

Every time there is a government entity, there is corruption. Medicare fights corruption every day. Do you think it will any different with another kind of government run health care? Again, those answering these narrowly scripted poll questions aren't being given the whole picture. In other words this poll is misleading.

tweetybird193 - You are awesome. I read every word of your post. The truth remains that the devil is in the details.

Thanks

Posted by: Lone Star Rules | Aug 6, 2009 6:55:20 AM
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Anyone interested in how some of the claims made in that post (which match claims made in a mass email) go over with fact checkers, may want to google politifact "E-mail 'analysis' of health bill needs a check-up"

I love it! The democrates have declaired war on America. This will do nothing but strenghten the resolve of the American people.

If Obama want so take away my choices of medical care, wants me to fund abortions, wants me fund the early death of the infirmed and aged, wants to nationalize our largest industries, confiscate my money and give it to someone else, and buy people cars with my tax money you are dam right I want to I want to destroy his "presidency". Hey! Where's the birth certificate? Where are your college transcripts, who funded your education? He said he would have the most transparent Presidency ever. He has done nothing but lie to us. IMPEACH OBAMA!

The Dem's aren't really in touch with reality. Why can't they fathom that many people simply don't like their aganda? They instead spin American disdain for their "efforts" as an organized GOP conservitive nut-job assault. Shame on them.

I am dissatisfied with Obama and contact my reps regularly voicing my discontent. I am not part of ANY organazied group of "faction".

NO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

Google numbersusa to help save America.

The so called health care reform looks more like another power grab.

1. Grab control over the insurance companies (and their assets).
2. Grab control over the health and life of the people.
3. Grab the control of medical practices (read: the businesses) from the rightful owners.
4. Grab more tax money.

Did I miss anything?

I have never been political before until this Administration. I have never been so afraid for my country with all these people are trying to shove down our throats. The Democrats crack me up when they say we are astroturfers and someone is paying us to be out there. We are concerned citizens that are spending our time trying to get these people to listen to us and they are coming back with this rhetoric. Nancy Pelosi is so off base and disconnected from the real people. So are the others in this administration. It's okay for the Democrats to have the Black Panthers and ACORN bullying people at the polls and disrupting things at the tea parties. We are proud of our country and what it stands for and we are seeing with this Administration that they are taking us down a road we don't want to go and we are going to fight for our rights. ABC is so far up this Administration's --- that you can't see the light of day either. Americans are not stupid and they do not want this Health Care Reform for the minority not the majority. We are tired of this.

How dare the DNC take the position that these protests are one more example of the vast right wing conspiracy.

The DNC and this White House are on the threshold of really pis**** off the Heartland. They are insulting our intelligence and now they are tagging us as bought and paid for.

There are some great ideas out there to really fix this economy and our health care system. This Bill is not on the list. The Stimulus plan should never have been on the list either.

So where is the transparency? Where is the dialogue between the Dems and the Reps? Where is the change we can believe in?

If these guys don't stop there is definetly going to be change out here - they are not going to like the results.

tweetybird193 - You are awesome. I read every word of your post. The truth remains that the devil is in the details.

Thanks

I wonder how the London press back in the 1770's charaterized a the Colonial liberty movement.

I bet it was as a small group of fringe kooks with no popular backing....