President Obama Accepts Wilson’s Apology, Says He Hopes the Political "Fever Breaks a Little Bit"

"How can you assume that single payer would have "far less administrative costs than private insurance"?"

Marketing/advertising budgets, executive pay, billing procedures designed to deny all but the persistent from getting their coverage.

Administrative costs for private insurance are far above what we spend on Medicare.

Miller has NO SHOT. The Dems are going to get trounced in '10. And Miller will be part of the collateral. He can raise over $100 million. Don't matter. Wilson won by 8 points in a off year for Repubs. He will trounce Miller in a very conservative district. Especially when they find out all his money comes from the communists at DailyKOS.

"Uh, Ryan. Here's the part you sliced off."

I didn't use AP fact check.

I went to the CBO letter itself.

But here is the part you sliced off the AP fact check.

"That doesn't mean preventive care doesn't make sense or save lives. It just doesn't save money."

"How do you pay for it? This is what the President is getting skewered over. Right on the heels of the OBO revising the 10 year budget up $2 Trillion. People want reform. I want reform. But the question is how do we realistically pay for it."

We raise taxes.

That is the way to realistically pay for something.

While there are other measures that may contribute to save money, in the end taxes will have to go up.

Uh, Ryan. Here's the part you sliced off.

"OBAMA: Requiring insurance companies to cover preventive care like mammograms and colonoscopies "makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives."

THE FACTS: Studies have shown that much preventive care — particularly tests like the ones Obama mentions — actually costs money instead of saving it. That's because detecting acute diseases like breast cancer in their early stages involves testing many people who would never end up developing the disease. The costs of a large number of tests, even if they're relatively cheap, will outweigh the costs of caring for the minority of people who would have ended up getting sick without the testing."

"Again, won't matter. Joe Wilson wins big in 2010, no question about it."

He didn't win all that big in a super safe GOP seat against an under financed opponent with zero national support.

"His opponent better be careful, his negative/oppo. ad may backfire"

The right wing lout vs the war vet.

I am betting that South Carolina takes the war vet.

"w.r.t. Harry Reid: What about Danny Tarkanian's numbers? I didn't see him included in figures"

I stated those were the latest FEC figures as of June 30th.

I see that Hugh Hewitt ran a fundraiser for him in which he lies...shocking for a right winger!

"if they sent $10 to Danny Tarkanian, Reid's only declared opponent in the 2010 election,"

As you can see from FEC reports, Reid already has a Republican State Senator opponent among others.

But Hewitt is a right winger.

The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Ryan C,

"Single payer increases the risk pool and has far less administrative costs than private insurance which is more concerned with turning a profit than making sure healthcare is received."

Thank you for your response. Honestly, I wasn't expect any elaboration from you.

How can you assume that single payer would have "far less administrative costs than private insurance"? What examples of successful federal government institutions can you point to that would lead anyone to believe the federal could be successful in administering a single payer system?

Furthermore, the following are single-payer systems:

- Medicare (reserves projected to be exhausted by 2017)

- Social Security (reserves expected to be depleted within ~20 years)

- Medicaid (killing state budgets

- Indian Health Service (“better not get sick after June, budget will be all spent”)

- VA (not exactly – unfortunately/regrettably – a shining example of positive healthcare)

But yet, you think things will be “different” this time around? What am I missing?

===If you voted for Bush, then go away===

I voted for Bush and I refuse to go away.

"Oh, and before you reach for the preventive services myth, you might want to acknowledge that the even the AP called the President out on that whopper last night."

You means this

CBO "In sum, expanded governmental support for preventive medical care would probably improve people’s health but would not generally reduce total spending on health care. However, government funding for some specific types of preventive care might lower total spending. In its estimates, CBO seeks to capture the likely future effects on the budget on a case-by-case basis."

Ryan,

How do you pay for it? This is what the President is getting skewered over. Right on the heels of the OBO revising the 10 year budget up $2 Trillion. People want reform. I want reform. But the question is how do we realistically pay for it. As usual, the nutter left has no answer, just as the nutter right as no new ideas.

"If you voted for Bush, then go away."

Actually, I did not. Honest truth. Prior to 2008, I hadn't voted since '92. Obama and his re-distributionist outlook got my attention real quick last year and I voted in 2008.

"You have no reason to be here."

My, that's a bit harsh, isn't? The rest of your post is somewhat nonsensical, no need to delve further.

"Now he gets to go against a better financed and supported opponent who already has ready made oppo ad."

Again, won't matter. Joe Wilson wins big in 2010, no question about it. His opponent better be careful, his negative/oppo. ad may backfire.

w.r.t. Harry Reid: What about Danny Tarkanian's numbers? I didn't see him included in figures (not that he'll reach Harry Reid like numbers, given all the special interests Harry has in his pocket - won't matter, Harry is going down, as is Chris Dodd in the housecleaning that will be 2010).

"Posted by: Dude, Where's My Credibility? | Sep 10, 2009 3:51:24 PM"

ROFLMAO!

At least give credit where credit is due

"Senate Republican Communications Center"

"How Ryan? You we're specifically asked how, not just whether you think it's possible. And we'll need a little more than a "Yes, we can!" "

Who is we?

The rest of the cube dwellers at the RNC internet outreach?

This was your question.

"Do YOU believe it is "possible to insure up to 30 million people with better coverage and reduce costs at the same time"?"

I answered yes and the path towards achieving that would be single payer.

Single payer increases the risk pool and has far less administrative costs than private insurance which is more concerned with turning a profit than making sure healthcare is received.

That said I am open to other universal care options.

What Germany and Japan have done is interesting.

"Something you guys prove here everyday."

Great comeback, brah-vo. Such petulance...I can see why you are such a fan of Barry's - The two of you have a few things in common.

So, Ryan C, just how would single payer insure up to 30 million people with better coverage and reduce costs at the same time? We're interested in your brilliant insight because we're not seeing how single-payer could get us there…It doesn't wash with those of us who have little faith in government to run programs of this scale successfully (not much of a positive track record out there...).

Look forward to your response.

tjp612:

If you voted for Bush, then go away. You've done enough damage and should be on your knees begging God for forgiveness for what you put this country through. You owe an apology to every family member of the brave young men and women who died because of your vote.

Not only that, Bush came into the office with a projected budget surplus of over $3 trillion but he left Obama with a $1.8 trillion deficit.

Clinton cut spending from 22.1% of GDP to 18.4%. Bush raised it to 20.9%.

In 2003, the Bush administration repeatedly lied about the cost of the drug benefit plan to get it passed, and Bush himself pressured reluctant conservatives to vote for the program.
Because reforming Medicare is an important part of getting health costs under control generally, Bush could have
used the opportunity to develop a comprehensive health-reform plan. By not doing so, he left his party with nothing to offer as an alternative to the Obama plan. Instead, Republicans have opposed Obama's initiative while proposing nothing themselves.

You have no reason to be here.

"Doesn't matter. Count on Rep. Wilson wearing this badge of honor on his way towards winning re-election in 2010."

His "badge of honor" has not raised him much money.

Now he gets to go against a better financed and supported opponent who already has ready made oppo ad.

"I haven't checked contributions to Harry Reid's opponents...hmm...I wonder how that is going...."

From Opensecrets, using the data last sent June 30th 2009

Harry Reid (D)* $10,930,627
Sharron E. Angle (R) $35,217
Billy Parson (R) $12,757
Chuck Kozak (R) $0
Edward Hamilton (R) $0
Terry Suominen (R) $0
Jeff Durbin (I) $0
John Gregory Chachas (R) $0
Robin Titus (R) $0"

"Yes I do. "

How Ryan? You we're specifically asked how, not just whether you think it's possible. And we'll need a little more than a "Yes, we can!"

Oh, and before you reach for the preventive services myth, you might want to acknowledge that the even the AP called the President out on that whopper last night.

Since the Stimulus become law in February, 3.1 million Americans have lost work (Bureau of Labor Statistics) and only 18% of Americans say that the trillion-dollar plan has helped the economy. Unemployment is 9.7%.

In June when the unemployment rate was 9.5%, Vice President Joe Biden told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “The second hundred days [of the recovery package] you’re going to see a lot more jobs created.” But since then, the economy has lost 492,000 jobs.

Now, the administration claims to have "saved or created" more than one million jobs so far!

Congressman Joe Wilson called it right!

"The game has changed."

Doesn't matter. Count on Rep. Wilson wearing this badge of honor on his way towards winning re-election in 2010.

I haven't checked contributions to Harry Reid's opponents...hmm...I wonder how that is going....

BTW, Ryan C, look forward to response to question I posed to you.