Big Money for 'Smart Grid'

You know my whole adult life I have been a democrate no more. I will never vote democrate again.
Posted by: Helen Ehrhardt | Oct 28, 2009 8:28:10 AM
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I'm sick of Washington! Both parties are hypocrites and liars! I was a democrate all my life until BO and now I'm not a Democrate, Republican or independant. I'm a conservative!!!
Posted by: lovingpolitics | Oct 26, 2009 6:44:02 PM
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Helen, meet lovingpolitics -- lovingpolitics, meet Helen. I think you two were meant to be together.

Don't you people understand yet that this man wants to run everything in our lives and that we are in a lot of trouble as long as he is in office. We are stuck for the next three yrs. and I don't know about you but it scares the hell out of me.
He is not a prsident and never will be and we are all going to suffer.
He doesn't even have a good staff behind him.
You know my whole adult life I have been a democrate no more. I will never vote democrate again.

Dear talkhooloo,
Thank you very much for your posting. Smart Grid is about linking electricity users and power providers. The governement, especially the federal government has no role in this scheme at all. They merely provide the initial funding for necessary improvements in an outdated power grid. Each citizen is free to generate his own electricity and be independent of the grid (MicroGrid).
Sincerely,
Max Gruenig

Letting NOLA Down? Trying to bail a bunch of crack heads was a waste of money...they let themselves down and Bush and the idiots in congress only enabled these loser to behave even worse.

Let me guess who is profiting off this..those that donatated to Obama. Newsflash pumpkins, there is an article out about Obama using the GlobalWarming nonsense meeting in december to help set up a one world order (he wants to be the world president) basically where the US funds this new world order and redistributes our wealth to other countries because we use energy here to help our industries.

Does no one here understand what Smart Grid is! It is a system where the Government will be CONTROLLING the temperature inside your HOME!!!! You will not be able to change your temp to cooler or warmer as you feel the need. The government will have complete control to dictate how cool or warm it should be inside your home. Really NOT IN MY HOUSE!!! COME ON PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!! This plan is not to improve the system, not to create jobs. It is all about control. Do you want an example?? How many people were at Walmart when it was warmer INSIDE the store than outside?? I question a walmart employee and they said the temp at the store here where I live was control by the central store not even in my State!!! They said they could not turn on the air because of this. SO do I want the government dictating the same ? NOOOOO

Hooray! Another integrated infrastructure to come tumbling down when the technology trap fails us.

The Wiki entry for "smart grid" was totally biased by somebody who apparently got in there first and put that ridiculous claptrap comment about charging you more for electricity by putting a device between your dinner-making appliance and the wall outlet. As it clearly states at the top of the entry, this page is "In Dispute."

The real value of an enhanced, smart grid includes increased efficiency and for the allowance of the seamless incorporation of homeowner-produced electricity to be sold to the utilities.

Our utilities are falling apart and have not kept up with either demand or technology. But they are just the tip of the infrastructure iceberg. Our sewers and water lines are bursting across the country having long since reached the end of their 75 - 100 year lifetimes.

Everything wears out. As my grandmother used to say, "A stitch in time, saves nine." Spending on infrastructure, whether for electric grids or new sewers is, IMHO, "smart" indeed.

... does no one else think the inadvertently left out state is hawaii ... ? how would we run a smart grid electricity system out there ... ?

Spend!

MayBee,

The state that was inadvertently left out was Alaska.

"The winning companies have secured an additional $4.7 billion in private money to match their government grants, creating $8.1 billion in total investment in the smart grid."
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Just a small fact left out of the article above.

Private industry and government working together for a better future.

===How does she know it was "inadvertent"?===

I wonder which state was left out? How do we find out?

=== I remember reading last week in the LA Times, after Obama spoke at MIT that China is spending almost three times as much as the United States on low-pollution energy. ===

I also remember reading how Obama said China's infrastructure was better suited than ours. Pretty pictures from the Olympics notwithstanding, "the country was suffering from its biggest power shortage since 2004" according to the Telegraph. The problem? Lack of coal. I can see how Obama would admire China.

"Just what we need Government run Energy what a waste of money,"
strikerF | Oct 27, 2009 1:11:24 PM

The same blind short term thinking condemned Hoover dam - which opened a major portion of the West to development and has earned it's enormous cost back ten-fold.

Posted by: malcat

more importantly, I don't think you understand the concept of satire, good or bad....

Oh Yeah, you are a big part of the problem
Posted by: malcat

why are you rightists so afraid of free speech?
I know you believe that the 'righty's' are the only ones entitled to free speech, but, I guess you don't support the constitution and our beloved founders as well as our brave troops fighting for our rights.
Why, oh why do republicans hate america?

according to Rasmussen, 21% of Americans who claim to be conservatives, evangelical, or republicans,..don't believe in the sun, they say the respondents don't really understand what the big yellowish thing in the sky is, but if the Dems like it, can't be good for the country.

they also didn't know what to make of the moon, but if Obama was for it they were aginst it..

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Oh Yeah, you are a big part of the problem. Stop ranting and raving, thereby appearing to be ignorant.

You're not helping the Democrats and only encouraging those on the right who are as ignorant as you just sounded.

OOPS, can't type, I meant to say...."I'm not saying there isN'T a lot of infrastructure that needs upgrading, but we can't afford it....not now.

Pres Bush used to say everything was 'hard work' and for him it was, failures in 2 wars, domestic insanity like letting NOLA drown, foreign policy disasters, domestic spying, torture, crashing the economy putting millions out of work..

8 years of failure, hard work indeed, but he and the republicans were well up to the task of ruining america and crushing the middle class.

and yet Republicans still advocate the same do nothing, let america rot policies.....

Obama hasn't fixed all of Bush/Cheney's problems yet... be interesting to see if he does, but at least he and the Dems are trying something different as opposed to knowing that republicans would be doing the same thing they always do:

say nothing, loudly,, proclaim themselves 'patriots', and claim everyone else is wrong while pointing out their failures as accomplishments..
I'm glad America see them now as they truly are.....