It's Iran's Move

"No. It's a sliver of the truth."
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"Obama gave up an undefined missile defense for a missile alternative that is tested and known to work."

Actually that is the truth. And the Obama system will be ready for deployment a lot sooner.

You may describe it as spin, but its actually the truth.

Posted by: julieterra |

No. It's a sliver of the truth.

You may ignore the fact that Obama threw the Poles and Czechs under the bus but its actually the truth too.

Posted by: Ewiak Ryszard | Oct 23, 2009 3:15:52 PM

That is scary on so many levels.

I'm so glad voters kept Sarah Palin's beautifully manicured finger far, far away from that red button. And may they keep it far, far away in 2012 too.

"NO its been OUR move for quite some time and we just never seem to want to make it."
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Oh yes, and what is our move then?

NO its been OUR move for quite some time and we just never seem to want to make it.

We just stall and stall and stall. Clinton, Bush and now Obama.

Obama will drag this out as long as he can so that something else happens he CAN look good on. Or that Iran get a nuke and then they probably think they can handle that.

ITS OUR MOVE NOT THEIRS! Just because the govt SAYS its their move doesn't make it so.

Stall stall stall stall and stall some more and hopefully the situation can change into something less crappy.

Obama gave up an undefined missile defense for a missile alternative that is tested and known to work.

Posted by: julieterra |

Nice spin. Sounds so much better than saying that Obama threw Poland and Czechoslovakia under his bus to secure a bag of beans from Russia.
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You may describe it as spin, but its actually the truth.

Obama gave up an undefined missile defense for a missile alternative that is tested and known to work.

Posted by: julieterra |

Nice spin. Sounds so much better than saying that Obama threw Poland and Czechoslovakia under his bus to secure a bag of beans from Russia.

Iran should not arouse concern. Georgia is the most dangerous flashpoint. The Bible says: "At the appointed time [the king of the north = Russia] will return back [will regain the influence, which it lost after the break-up of the Soviet Union] and come into the south [many indicate that this might be Georgia], but it will not be as the former [1921] or as the latter [2008]. For the dwellers of coastlands of Kittim [the West] will come against him, and he will be humbled, and will return." (Daniel 11:29,30a) Then Iran will be humbled also. "But ships will come from the direction of Kittim, troubling Asshur [Russia] and troubling Eber [inhabiting on the other side the Euphrates]." (Numbers 24:24a, BBE)

At that time, peace will be taken from the earth and the "great sword" - nuclear sword - will be used. (Revelation 6:4) However, it will be neither the great tribulation nor "the end of the world" (Armageddon). As Jesus foretold, that will be "the beginning of birth pains". (Mathew 24:7,8)

If the Heavens planned a full return of Russia (and much suggests this) the present economic crisis will deepen. Then also the European Union and NATO will not stands.

In the same way the earlier prophecy had fulfilled: "And (he) [the king of the north = Russia] will go back (to) his land with great wealth [1945]; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant [state atheism]; and will act effectively; and turned back to his own land [the break-up of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact, the return of Russian troops to country]." (Daniel 11:28)

"Even though Obama gave up on missile defense in Eastern Europe--for some undefined alternative"
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It is exactly the opposite. Obama gave up an undefined missile defense for a missile alternative that is tested and known to work.

Nice try.

So, Obama's "Smart Power" appeasement of the bloodthirsty mullahs is aiding their drive to build nuclear weapons, not slowing it. Even though Obama gave up on missile defense in Eastern Europe--for some undefined alternative, he got NO cooperation from Russia in stopping Iranian nukes. And Putin continues to sell the Iranians the tools to refine uranium and build the bombs--and to defend the facilities from airstrikes by Israel or the U.S.

Remember that Iran has been at the top of the US State department list of sponsors of terrorism for years. Ahmadinejad and the council he represents regularly pledge to annihilate Israel. Iran trains, arms, and funds most of the insurgents who attack our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran executes gays and women for “religious” crimes. They stole an election earlier this year and brutally put down peaceful protests of that crime.

Like most world leaders, they do not fear Obama, or respect him, or take him seriously.

How can we possibly trust them with nukes, or to keep their word in any agreement which does not benefit them??

jhw539 - Bush dropped the ball, as did Clinton before him. But, now the responsibility is squarely on Obama & what is he doing? NOTHING. Blah, blah, blah, nothing but spin to disguise foreign policy failures on EVERY front.
In any case, this is no partisan issue, this is a threat to our national security, a very serious threat.
You can go through all the likely scenarios & all have extremely serious consequences.

It is quite clear that Obama has been euchered, and euchered quite badly. It can avail him nothing to criticize Bush retroactively: it is his presidency, and his alone. If Iran produces a nuclear weapon while he is in the Oval Office, the entire world will be changed irrevocably, and very much for the worse. That will dwarf anything else in his legacy.

@Terry: I suggest that you study some *actual* history, and maybe do a little thinking for yourself. Which are you parroting? Rush, Hannity, Beck, or one of the other seditionists?

they are laughing at the West, they spit in Obama's face & he thinks it's raining.
Terry | Oct 23, 2009 11:41:22 AM

Yeah because Bush's approach was doing so much better. They were really scared and behaving themselves then.

I'm quite pleased that Obama is taking lessons from Bush Sr, not the last 8 years of useless 'with us or against us' soundbites for domestic consumption accompanied by completely and utterly ignoring the problem.

Iran made it's intentions/move long ago..It's always been "our" move..

Is this a legitimate news organization? Does it have the Obama stamp of approval? You can't be too careful these days, I wouldn't want to inadvertently commit blasphemy. I didn't see the poster of Chairman Mao anywhere on the site so I'm not sure if I can post here ....
RE: IRAN - they are laughing at the West, they spit in Obama's face & he thinks it's raining. Even the most brain-dead moron can see that Iran is playing everyone for suckers. They're just stalling for time while they complete their nuclear program.
Can you imagine the consequences of nuclear weapons in the hands of these crazy religious fanatics?
All these talks, negotiations, new proposals, are a bunch of nonsense by the spineless collection of Neville Chamberlain clones that passes for leadership in the West. Western politicians, our Appeaser-in-Chief at the top of the list, are completely irresponsible.

I am skeptical of Russia being an honest broker here, but seeing as how they stand to profit from their own oil sales if Iran is locked out of selling oil by a real embargo, they may suddenly decide to join the rest of the world on this issue.

Posted by: jhw539 |

You might be even more skeptical if you understood that there is zero chance that Iran's oil will be targeted for sanctions.

"Russia had "agreed to these proposals..."

I am skeptical of Russia being an honest broker here, but seeing as how they stand to profit from their own oil sales if Iran is locked out of selling oil by a real embargo, they may suddenly decide to join the rest of the world on this issue. China is still Iran's ally, but Russia has been the bigger defender.

Jake, please encourage your colleagues to go back to being the "Fourth Estate."

LMAO all they have to do is compliment this Nixon style white house and the thin skinned Obama will give anything to Iran