Obama Mobilizes on Health Care: Keep on Working

ALYSON...ALYSON....You must enroll in my American Government class...I am sure it would help you comprehend what's going on..................

Maybe Fascist and Joementum will like this too--

According to the latest WSJ/NBC poll

48% say they favor a public health plan administered by the federal government that would compete with private insurers, compared with 42% who oppose it.

When asked a different way -- is it important to give people a choice of a public option? -- 72% answered that it was either "extremely important" or "quite important," while just 23% said it was "not that important" or "not at all important."

ofcourse they arent goingt o pass it if they have to ave anything substantial in it that actually helps people... the way they talk about the bill now you think it might work "but" they say it wont go into effect till the out years of 2013... unacceptaqble!

I loved this delightful description by the left-winger Dana Milbank in the WaPo:

"Then there was the small matter of lacking the votes to pass the public option. 'Do you feel 100 percent sure right now that you have the 60 votes?' CNN’s Dana Bash inquired. Reid looked down at the lectern. He looked up at the ceiling. He chuckled. He put his palms t'gether as if in prayer. Then he spoke. “My caucus believes strongly there should be health-care reform' was the non sequitur he offered. … Of course, everybody knew that Reid didn’t have the votes. That’s why he was standing there alone, a Gang of One. As Democratic aides described it, the moment had less to do with health-care policy than with Nevada politics — and one vulnerable senator’s justifiable fear of liberal anger."

It's all so much fun to watch...

The public option with the state opt-out provision is the best way to implement this. We need affordable health insurance for the working poor and a lot of the middle class, as the premiums go up faster than wages do!

"In fact, look at this... an update. What Lieberman actually means is he won't filibuster on the front end-- getting the bill to the floor for debate-- but he might on the back end--as he'd rather strip the public option out of the bill if possible."

Posted by: Alyson | Oct 27, 2009 5:36:57 PM

ROTFLMAO! You pathetic little Obama internet community organizers are spinning like Iranian centrifuges.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that HE’D BACK A GOP FILIBUSTER of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL.

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Lieberman, Lieberman, Lieberman ... who gave that guy the gavel. LOL. Steve Benen goes through the dude's positions on this since June-- they are ever-evolving and change every month. No worries, they'll change again next week as it will be November.

In fact, look at this... an update. What Lieberman actually means is he won't filibuster on the front end-- getting the bill to the floor for debate-- but he might on the back end--as he'd rather strip the public option out of the bill if possible.

Kathleen Sebelius and many other far left liberals

Posted by: Woody | Oct 27, 2009 12:59:21 PM

Sebelius is a "far left liberal" now.

You peeps don't understand what a far left liberal is. Too funny. And what an out of whack sense of the continuum.

September 9, 2009 Obama said,
"One more misunderstanding I want to clear up - under our plan, NO federal dollars will be used to fund abortions."

OBAMA, YOU LIE!

October 27, 2009:
--Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Speaker Pelosi is not pleased with his effort to change abortion-related provisions in the healthcare bill being crafted by the House.

During an interview on C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" show, Stupak said he is undeterred in trying to ENSURE THAT TAXPAYER DOLLARS DO NOT PAY FOR ABORTIONS. Stupak, who opposes abortion rights, acknowledged that some in his party are upset with his public campaign to change the bill.

"The Speaker is not happy with me," Stupak said.---

Awesome! That evil racist rightwinger Joe Lieberman is up to no good again!

---Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that HE’D BACK A GOP FILIBUSTER of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL.

Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid’s has said the Senate bill will.

"We're trying to do too much at once," Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now."

Lieberman added that HE’D VOTE AGAINST A PUBLIC OPTION PLAN “EVEN WITH AN OPT-OUT because it still creates a whole new government entitlement program for which taxpayers will be on the line."---

Heckuva job, Harry!

Oh Yeah:"republicans are so desperate to win anything, or even be thought of as 'normal',.that a winning bingo card is now 'proof' that the Dems are 'in trouble' ..."

Could you decipher that one for me? I'm no Republican so you can slam them all you want.

BTW, I noticed you did not dispute my point that Obama, Frank, Feingold, et. al. are all ON RECORD stating a public option is just the first step towards single payer. You can throw in Jacob "The Architect" Hacker and the 90 cosponsors of H.R. 676. Yes indeed, the deceit goes on. There is no dispute here, the end game is single payer which polls below 20%, yet they have the audacity (yes, audacity) to call the public option bill a "competitve bill".

Yet the deceit goes on.
Posted by: Woody

if you mean Republicans and the insurance cabal.. yep.. yer right on that ....

republicans are so desperate to win anything, or even be thought of as 'normal',.that a winning bingo card is now 'proof' that the Dems are 'in trouble' ...

Just remember that Obama, Barney Frank, Russ Feingold, HHS Kathleen Sebelius and many other far left liberals are all ON RECORD stating a public option is just the first step towards single payer. Yet the deceit goes on.

=== Neither you nor anyone else has seen the bill to which Reid referred today===

And whatever is in there, Schumer says Reid won't let them talk about it. So anytime someone says "the bill", they aren't paying attention to their own party reps.

Let's see, which one polls better? Public option? Nope. Competitive option? Possibly. Consumer option. Bingo. People are dumb.

Dirty Harry Reid pushes Opt-Out provision.....seriously??

And again I say unto you, it is easier for Michael Moore to go through a needle's eye, than for states to opt out of ObamaCare.

There will be countless additional funding measures attached so as to ensure that if states opt out, they’ll go even more broke than they already are.

Technically states can opt out of federal education guidelines and run their own public schools any way they see fit — as long as they don’t mind losing millions in federal funding that states have come to depend on.

Technically states can opt out of the federal drinking age and set their own legal age for the consumption of alcoholic beverages — as long as they don’t mind losing millions in federal highway funding.

Hospitals also receive plenty of federal money. Guess what’s going to disappear if your state “opts out” of ObamaCare?

speaks volumes - chapters, anyway - about what the body politic is trying to tell Barack Obama's Democrats...

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Oct 27, 2009 10:37:43 AM

Not really according to recent polling.

70% of likely voters say Obama is “not a factor” in ther choice. Only 15% say opposition to Obama is a factor, while 14%, say support for him is a factor.

71% percent say it makes “no difference” if the governor is from the same political party as the president.

Obama’s approval rating in Virginia is 54%, in line with most national polls.

Interesting article.

Remember when Republicans promised-- swore!-- not so very long ago, that the GOP would offer an actual real written out and caucus-supported alternative health reform plan (unlike the handful of Republican-backed "bills" sometimes mentioned here that have gained no widespread support or traction by the GOP as a whole or even the caucus in Congress) Didn't they say their plan would prove beyond a doubt that the GOP is not only NOT the "Party of No" but also serious about legislating and governing. And remember how they claimed that voters would finally have an opportunity to see two clear approaches to the issue -- one from each party -- and could then decide which side offered the better solutions?

Yes, I remember that to and have to ask... WHAT SOLUTIONS?

132 days since the commitment was made and counting....

No wonder fewer and fewer conservatives call themselves Republicans and have taken to calling themselves independents or simply "conservatives."

I'm glad I voted for folks who actually do something and try hard to deliver for the American people with the long range in view.

p.s. to Fascist, you'll be able to study the Democrat's bill and the opt-out public option after the CBO scoring.

The collapse of the Democratic campaign for governor of Virginia speaks volumes - chapters, anyway - about what the body politic is trying to tell Barack Obama's Democrats.

They're learning, painfully, that campaigning without George W. Bush is baffling, frustrating and scary. Worse, it offers a preview of what the congressional campaigning will be like next year. One Obama doorbell ringer, working neighborhoods in Northern Virginia for Creigh Deeds, says even the promise of free pizza can't lure faithful Democrats to a rally.