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Pledging Beta Omega?
October 25, 2009 3:38 PM
President Obama is golfing at Ft. Belvoir today with Melody Barnes, the director of the White House Domestic Policy Council.
This is the president's 24th round of golf since his inauguration, according to the meticulous records of CBS News' Mark Knoller.
And, interestingly, it's the first time the president has played with a woman.
Usually these outings are men only.
But today's round of golf comes after some questions raised by the media about what some critics say is a too-fratty atmosphere in the White House, a place where the president's closest advisers -- chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, senior adviser David Axelrod, and press secretary Robert Gibbs -- are known by women at the White House as "the Boys." That's a perception fed with lower-level aides like personal assistant Reggie Love and trip director Marvin Nicholson who have close personal relationships with the president and play basketball and golf with him.
On one level, this is much ado about nothing. No one is alleging discrimination or an uncomfortable work place. White House aides point to the myriad women in positions of power -- Barnes, senior adviser Valerie Jarrett, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Communications Director Anita Dunn, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, UN ambassador Dr. Susan Rice, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, and many others as evidence to rebut any notion that the White House should stamp "Beta Omega" above its columns.
White House aides also point to the president's substantive agenda to rebut the charge. They point to the first bill the president signed -- the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act -- his support for parity in health care coverage, abortion rights, and many other issues as evidence that this is a president who fervently believes in women's equality in law and in practice.
And yet, plenty of Democratic women who support the president aren't so quick to dismiss the notion that the White House can be a little boy's-clubby.
As ABC News' Karen Travers noted on October 8, President Obama invited to the White House a number of officials for a game of hoops: Secretary of Housing & Urban Development Shaun Donovan, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner, Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar, and 11 Members of Congress (nine Democrats, two Republicans).
No women were included.
Not even Sebelius, who played basketball for Trinity University in Washington, DC, and who had been asked that same week by Jay Leno who might win a game of HORSE between her and the president. "You know I actually made my college basketball team," she said as the crowd laughed. "I'm not sure he did so you know, bring it on."
That day, Gibbs was asked about the estrogen absence in the basketball game and said the point was "well taken."
"The president, obviously, is someone who, as the father of two young daughters, has an avid interest in their competing against anybody on the playing field" Gibbs said. "The president's certainly played basketball and other sports with women in the past, and I anticipate he'll do so in the future."
Last week, NBC's Savannah Guthrie asked the president about the game.
"You could say this was just a game," she said. "You might say it was a networking opportunity with the President or some kind of political activity. And I guess I just wonder, what happened there? Some people might look at that and say gosh, there's the old boys' club again."
The president was quick to disagree.
"Yeah, I've got to say I think this is bunk," he said. "You know, basically, the House of Representatives, they have a regular basketball game. And they had wanted to play here at the White House court. And we invited them. You know, I don't think it sends any kind of message or signal whatsoever."
Today the New York Times' Mark Leibovich took a look at the issue of whether the president's White House is a bit too fratty.
“There is a sense that Obama has a certain jocular familiarity with the men that he doesn’t have with the women,” former Clinton for president adviser Tracy Sefl -- whom Leibovich says "speaks regularly to some female aides in the administration" -- told the Times.
But Jarrett called the meme “a Washington perception that has nothing to do with the reality on the ground.”
Though President Obama overwhelmingly won the women's vote last November, his opponents have tried to imply something fratty about him.
It was a year and a half ago, when Clinton was still a senator intensely squared off against Obama, that several Democrats in her camp pointed to occasional comments he made -- "You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out," and "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal" -- as evidence of a certain fratty cluelessnes.
Pro-Clinton blogger Taylor Marsh wrote that words like this, in her view, indicated "a way of thinking about women. A way of demeaning women in power; even saying we're not up to the job. Seriously, Senator Hillary Clinton is a woman running for president. Not some emotional menopausal diva popping pills because she's depressed she broke a nail."
In a pitch for disaffected Clinton supporters, the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., also attempted to suggest that there was something chauvinistic about then-Sen. Obama, relying quite a bit on a column by conservative writer Deroy Murdock that suggested that on average, women in McCain's office are paid more than the men in McCain's office, while the women in Obama's office made less than the men did. Only one of Obama's five best-paid Senate staffers was a woman. Of McCain's five best-paid Senate staffers, three were women.
In any case, this is the context in which Barnes is playing golf today.
Fore!
- jpt
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gobnaitx:
Is that your slogan? "Obama, not as bad as Bush"?
Posted by: dream | Oct 27, 2009 5:06:23 PM
"Pledging Beta Omega?" Complaining about a "fratty" atmosphere no fewer than three times? Gee, Jake, did someone not get a bid during his freshman rush week?
And with the comparison to Bush's golf schedule apparently so relevant, let's also compare their vacation calendars for the same period. Fox's HR Department is on line two, Jake.
Posted by: gobnaitx | Oct 27, 2009 3:48:29 PM
"embroiled in 2 wars" ???
If that's Obama when he's "embroiled," I'd hate to see what he looks like when he's being laid back.
You really do need to read up on The Great Depression; and incidentally, it was a world wide depression that brought dictators to power in many countries.
Posted by: dream | Oct 27, 2009 9:52:54 AM
In just his first 100 days, FDR proposed and Congress passed 15 MAJOR pieces of legislation.
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FDR quickly won congressional passage for a series of social, economic, and job-creating bills:
--The Federal Emergency Relief Administration, which supplied states and localities with federal money to help the jobless;
--The Civil Works Administration to create jobs during the first winter of his administration; and
--The Works Progress Administration, which replaced FERA, pumped money into circulation, and concentrated on longer-term projects.
--The Public Works Administration focused on creating jobs through heavy construction in such areas as water systems, power plants, and hospitals.
--The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 established the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) in the United States and included banking reforms, some of which were designed to control speculation.
--The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. protected bank accounts.
--Securities and Exchange Commission to regulate Wall St.
--The Civilian Conservation Corps provided jobs for unemployed young men.
--The Tennessee Valley Authority provided electricity for the first time to millions of homes and boosted regional development.
Also approved were the:
--Emergency Banking Act,
--the Farm Credit Act, and
--the National Industrial Recovery Act.
In all, Roosevelt got 15 major bills through Congress in his first 100 days.
Posted by: dream | Oct 27, 2009 9:17:37 AM
"I am curious as to what a right winger pretending to be a leftie thinks FDR accomplished in his first 9 months in office." ???
Now, THAT is really sad.
Posted by: dream | Oct 27, 2009 7:33:26 AM
"Oh, please. By the time FDR had been in office the same length of time -- after inheriting a far worse mess than Obama did -- he had transformed the country."
I am curious as to what a right winger pretending to be a leftie thinks FDR accomplished in his first 9 months in office.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 26, 2009 9:41:20 PM
"FDR was also left a country embroiled in 2 wars - and the entire western world in an economic collapse? I don't think so." ???
Surely, you jest.
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Not at all. FDR was not left a country embroiled in 2 wars AS WELL as . ..
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 26, 2009 9:25:46 PM
"FDR was also left a country embroiled in 2 wars - and the entire western world in an economic collapse? I don't think so." ???
Surely, you jest.
Posted by: dream | Oct 26, 2009 9:14:52 PM
" By the time FDR had been in office the same length of time -- after inheriting a far worse mess than Obama did -- he had transformed the country."
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FDR was also left a country embroiled in 2 wars - and the entire western world in an economic collapse? I don't think so.
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 26, 2009 9:02:21 PM
"The guy has been in power for 9 months during extreme conditions ..." ??
Oh, please. By the time FDR had been in office the same length of time -- after inheriting a far worse mess than Obama did -- he had transformed the country.
And FDR didn't let the greedy clowns on Wall St. and the bank clowns get away with absconding with the public's money while grabbing huge bonuses and perks for themselves, as Obama did.
What? Obama didn't know until the day he was inaugurated that there were problems with the American and world economies? It was all over the news on a daily and nightly basis, for gosh sakes. Obama was elected in November; he had two months to get his plans in order. What was he doing during those two months if the economic problems were such a shock to him? He had ample time to get regulations in place, so that any entity asking for billions of our tax dollars would have been required to abide by some rules. Why didn't he? I'll tell you: because he needed to reward those guys for all their donations to his candidacy.
Posted by: dream | Oct 26, 2009 8:51:22 PM
"NOW he talks about regulating Wall St. and the big banks; well, the horse is out of the barn now so putting a better lock on the barn door is a bit late"
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Now, you're starting to sound a bit absurd; there was a major world-wide economic crash took place under the Bush administration to be contended with - and Obama has been in power how long?
You're expecting perfection under these circumstances and that is living in dreamland.
The guy has been in power for 9 months during extreme conditions and is being attacked by the left, the right (and every racist in the nation).
Keep fighting for those things you believe in - there is still over 3 years remaining in this presidential term. Lots of time for more change.
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 26, 2009 8:23:33 PM
and, Katie:
As for Obama's concern about passing an anti-rape law to protect military personnel, how come the issue had to wait until Al Franken made it to the senate? Why didn't Obama offer up such legislation when he was IN the U.S. Senate? Why did he wait for someone else to do it?
Too indifferent?
Too lazy?
Posted by: dream | Oct 26, 2009 7:10:24 PM
Katie:
If it's a race to the bottom to see which one was worse, Obama or Bush, we are in deep trouble.
The bots have routinely told us Obama was another Lincoln or Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Next to those presidents, Obama looks pretty pathetic.
Posted by: dream | Oct 26, 2009 6:49:17 PM
The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act pre-dated Obama's presidency, and all he did was sign a bill that had been proposed by someone else when Obama was still a senator. Obama was merely one of 45 senators who signed on as co-sponsors of the bill. I think it is absurd to imagine that any Democrat elected as president in 2008 would have declined to sign the bill. It is no big deal for Obama that he did.
Furthermore, he has substantial majorities in both houses of Congress and one has to wonder why he has proposed so little legislation to protect the middle class from the Wall St. and Big Corporate goons. In fact, Obama has presided over a massive transfer of money from the middle class to The Big Boys who put him in power. Yeah, NOW he talks about regulating Wall St. and the big banks; well, the horse is out of the barn now so putting a better lock on the barn door is a bit late (and very cynical).
Posted by: dream | Oct 26, 2009 5:52:44 PM
julieterra:
The United States leases but does NOT own the land on which Guantanamo prison is located. We also lease the land on which Bagram prison stands.
I do not like warrantless wiretapping, but Obama does. The proof? He's still defending it. Talk to Obama, not me, if you don't like it. Better yet, write Obama a letter telling him you are opposed to warrantless wiretapping. It IS un-Constitutional you know. Amend. 4: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall NOT be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Posted by: dream | Oct 26, 2009 5:27:58 PM
You're right, Jake Tapper, because Obama doesn't want to regulate who I have sex with, or what I can do with my body, or whether I can use birth control, and he even signed a law to guarantee that I can get equal wages. What a jerk Obama is. If he really cared about me, like McCain and other Republicans, he wouldn't have pledged to sign an anti-rape law. He would have voted against it, like 30 Republican senators did.
Women like me only care about whether we can play basketball with the president. We want to be controlled by strong Republican men. We want to be told what to do with our bodies, 'cause we can't figure it out for ourselves.
And everyone knows McCain's Palin pick was not a cynical ploy to try to get Clinton voters to vote for McCain. Just because women vote with their uterus, it's not cynical at all. Women just naturally vote for women.
This is how it is, people. Wake up women, and make, then smell, the coffee.
Women need protection and guidance from male reporters like Jake Tapper, who clearly knows all about women. And the fact that ABC has a male White House reporter and not a female? Men just do it better, that's all. I'm sure Jake makes less than all the women at ABC News. I mean, I'll bet his mother is female.
Posted by: Katie | Oct 26, 2009 5:06:28 PM
"I have never seen anyone so adept at avoiding doing their job."
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Then you payed no attention during the last administration . . .
Bush had already taken 3 weeks holidays at his ranch in Texas and returned to Washington just in time to get caught off guard by the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 26, 2009 4:36:47 PM
I have never seen anyone so adept at avoiding doing their job. The President jets away frequently for fundraisers or speeches, has big parties every Tuesday night, plays basketball and this past Sunday marked his 24th time on the golf course since becoming President. Pray tell, when does this man actually work? Meanwhile, he's dithering and playing big man on campus while accomplishing nothing and our troops are dying. Shameful, absolutely shameful.
Posted by: grannysunni | Oct 26, 2009 4:32:40 PM
" He called it a war of necessity and now is waffleing on making a decision. How Political is that,no wonder no one trusts him,by the time he makes a decision the war will be lost."
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Obama already significantly increased the number of American troops in Afghanistan - a decision made within a few short months of his inauguration.
It's worth remembering the General who requested even more troops, still felt the war may be 'unwinnable' due to corruption in Afghanistan - something (in the face of the recent RIGGED election) well worth deliberating before sending in more young Americans.
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 26, 2009 4:27:17 PM
"It absolutely depresses me to see the world the way an Obamabot sees it, it is pure delusion."
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I see many accomplishments in the list posted - if you don't see them as accomplishments, that would be your problem.
I think its' "pure delusion" to expect perfection from anyone, especially politicians. What we've got now is FAR better than what we had under Bush and the Republicans.
"the exact same tack Bush took with regard to the Guantanamo prisoners, until the Supreme Court forced him to grant certain rights to those prisoners. Nevertheless, Constitutional "scholar" Obama persists in holding Bush's view that such prisoners have no rights that we are bound to respect."
Just a point of order, the Supreme Court ruled on prisoners held in the American "non-country" of Guantanamo. Afghanistan is its own sovereign state . . .
Good for you for keeping up the fight against the warrantless wiretaps instituted under the last administration.
Posted by: julieterra | Oct 26, 2009 4:23:57 PM
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