Obama Praises "Courageous" House Vote

If he did use it then it is a bit unnerving since this contextual use of such words are used by the tyrants associated with Iran, Venezuela, Afghanistan, and Palestine when describing the heinous acts of extremist.
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More attempts to demonize the President by the right wing.

Obvious - and cheap.

I don't see a quote from the President in this article using the word "Courageous"? If he did use it then it is a bit unnerving since this contextual use of such words are used by the tyrants associated with Iran, Venezuela, Afghanistan, and Palestine when describing the heinous acts of extremist.

Romney is an air head. He would not have helped anything. In fact, Romney mentioned in an interview he was happy NOt to be president because of the problems. Romney is like the person in their mind thinks they are a superstar, when they are not.

Romney is jet setting every where with a sick wife with MS and one which had a pre cancerous condition. What a jerk!

re: "supposed to be ushering in the new era of transparency and bipartisanship - which they are not."

I am a realist. I know realistically no one will actually practice this or admit it was just words. But it did get him elected so kudos to him and his crew.

Actually you seemed to be saying "the left did it too" as an excuse for your snark and derogatory usage of terms,

Posted by: Olivia | Nov 9, 2009 1:48:17 AM

That would be a valid point except I never claimed to be above partisanship. Obama and his followers did (it was in his Inauguration speech actually) are supposed to be ushering in the new era of transparency and bipartisanship - which they are not. No one has changed their ways at all, which is fine. They just need to come clean about it.

(Interestingly, when I bring up that part of his speech, the response is usually well that was just a speech - everyone says that kind of stuff.)

uh no. I was showing the continued hypocrisy of the left.

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Actually my problem is using "Bush did it too" as an excuse for Obama's actions, especially when it applies to his "my administration will be different" line

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Actually you seemed to be saying "the left did it too" as an excuse for your snark and derogatory usage of terms, which would be showing your own hypocrisy rather than the hypocrisy of the left.

Your intent may have been different as you claim, but if you look at the post, the hypocrisy of your tactics is what stands out.

Good try though at whirliggging it.

A gazillion dollars to screw up health care and not insure tens of millions anyway? Sounds like a good deal to me! Oh, wait, I'm not a Socialist---scratch that.

Thanks to yet another RINO the Bolsheviks will be able to crow about yet another truly bipartisan bill.

COURAGEOUS?

How can you call these clowns courageous? They voted for something that only 27% of the population agrees with! Hopefully the senate is smart enough to vote down these pre-communism efforts of the O'Bama administration, unless they want a shout out...

Sorry. Should have been:

It's really the idea that Obama ISN'T just another politician when I don't like the comparison.

Posted by: tjp612 | Nov 8, 2009 10:28:29 PM

Good points. Liberals are still using the same old job programs as they did during The Great Depression. Roadwork. One guy working and three guys watching him work.

Out of curiosity, aren't you one of the right wingers who preaches to the left that just because Bush did something doesn't mean Obama should double down on it, etc.,

Actually my problem is using "Bush did it too" as an excuse for Obama's actions, especially when it applies to his "my administration will be different" line. If someone wants to make a case for Bush being the cause of something, I'm fine with that. It's really the idea that Obama is just another politician when I don't like the comparison. Bush never claimed to be anything like that. Obama did and still does.

Posted by: Olivia | Nov 8, 2009 11:24:00 PM

uh no. I was showing the continued hypocrisy of the left.

I have no idea what names were used here during the Bush administration which would be the fair comparison.

And those are the tame ones.

Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 8, 2009 10:18:12 PM

Out of curiosity, aren't you one of the right wingers who preaches to the left that just because Bush did something doesn't mean Obama should double down on it, etc., etc., etc? Two wrongs doesn't make a right and all that fun stuff? And does anyone on here ever use those terms? I've never seen it.

It appears that you're guilty of employing the tactics you encourage others not to use. You even call them out on it in a snarky fashion.

Smells of mean spirit.

I point out inconvenient facts (unemployment has accelerated during Obama reign vs. other economies) and you call it "petty"....And you are the one who pines for "intelligent" exchanges...hmmmm
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Yes, petty . .. the difference you point to are very small and totally pale in the face of the extreme unemployment in every industrialized western country.

You're grasping at straws attempting to smear the Democrats - and I'm calling that petty.

Posted by: Visualize Whirled Peas | Nov 8, 2009 10:18:12 PM

People are tired of these trashy smear attacks - and yet the right wing persists in doing just that.

This cheap tactic the right uses of labelling the President the "Messiah".

It's a cheap smear tactic . . . and one the right wing resorts to repeatedly.

These smear tactics are way out of the mainstream of America - people are tired of that trashy style of politics.

The right wing only shows how trashy they are when they continue something that is just no longer acceptable to mainstream American.

"Really tjp you've got to follow the news a little closer. You are aware that the Recovery and Reinvestment plan was DESIGNED to first shore up state and local budgets to restrict as much as possible massive layoffs of police, firefighters, teachers, health professionals and so on...."

Sounds like a give-away to preferred constituencies (which it is). Most of these positions were never in danger anyway – Why are government jobs “more equal” than private sector jobs?
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"And that private sector jobs have already begun coming on stream, and will continue to constitute more and more of the jobs - this is a 4-year Recovery plan."

Only a liberal ideologue could make a comment like this in a week when announcement has been made that unemployment has exceeded 10%
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"The private sector jobs become more and more evident as the energy portions of the bill come on stream."

Perhaps, but net effect will be government-subsized jobs taking the place of existing jobs
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"Just as a general understanding of what is taking place, look at something like the Interstate 215 widening project north of downtown San Bernardino which received a $128 million dollar boost from the federal stimulus program."

So this wouldn't have happened w/o ARRA? How does this benefit taxpayers on the other side of the country?
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"Between 500 and 600 workers will be directly employed by the project, according to Caltrans estimates. Another 1,400 to 1,500 jobs will come from related tasks including manufacturing the concrete, steel and other materials used during construction."

With NUMEROUS false claims in the # of jobs created/"saved" by ARRA, you expect us to believe this?
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"These projects are coming on stream all across America - and those are all private sector jobs."

Let's assume (it's a stretch) you are correct. Would you classify these as permanent or temporary jobs? If the latter, we are throwing money at the problem rather than sustainable improvement.
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"I can understand your great scepticism, but I also understand it springs largely from your ideology and your desire to demean the President and the Democrats."

Ideology? What ideology would that be? If opposition of unchecked and unsustainable growth of government by a group of unaccomplished demagogues is an ideology, then guilty as charged
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"Your petty picking over tiny increments of unemployment is just that. The fact remains unemployment is a MAJOR problem in every industrialized western country."

I point out inconvenient facts (unemployment has accelerated during Obama reign vs. other economies) and you call it "petty"....And you are the one who pines for "intelligent" exchanges...hmmmm

Again, this cheap tactic the right uses of labelling the President the "Messiah".
It's a cheap smear tactic . . . and one the right wing resorts to repeatedly.
Posted by: tierra | Nov 8, 2009 9:37:43 PM

Some of the hundreds of nicknames given to George W. Bush.

# All Hat No Cattle
# aWol
# Baby Bush
# Chimp in Chief
# Commander in thief
# unCurious George
# biCurious George (oil and power)
# Dumbya
# King George
# Resident Bush
# Satan's Monkey
# Shrub
# Thief in Chief
# Village Idiot

And those are the tame ones.

I know it's hard to watch your Messiah tumble
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Again, this cheap tactic the right uses of labelling the President the "Messiah".

It's a cheap smear tactic . . . and one the right wing resorts to repeatedly.

Even your smear tactics are way out of the mainstream of America - people are tired of that trashy style of politics.

In particular, where are the private sector jobs (80%? 90%? of all jobs to be created/"saved" (whatever that means) were to come from private sector).
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Really tjp you've got to follow the news a little closer. You are aware that the Recovery and Reinvestment plan was DESIGNED to first shore up state and local budgets to restrict as much as possible massive layoffs of police, firefighters, teachers, health professionals and so on . ..

And that private sector jobs have already begun coming on stream, and will continue to constitute more and more of the jobs - this is a 4-year Recovery plan.

The private sector jobs become more and more evident as the energy portions of the bill come on stream.

Just as a general understanding of what is taking place, look at something like the Interstate 215 widening project north of downtown San Bernardino which received a $128 million dollar boost from the federal stimulus program.

Between 500 and 600 workers will be directly employed by the project, according to Caltrans estimates. Another 1,400 to 1,500 jobs will come from related tasks including manufacturing the concrete, steel and other materials used during construction.

These projects are coming on stream all across America - and those are all private sector jobs.

I can understand your great scepticism, but I also understand it springs largely from your ideology and your desire to demean the President and the Democrats.

The world has gone through a major economic crisis - all of the industrial nations are still wrestling with it. None of it is SECURE! None of it. Your petty picking over tiny increments of unemployment is just that. The fact remains unemployment is a MAJOR problem in every industrialized western country.

Posted by: tierra | Nov 8, 2009 9:37:43 PM

BTW - No response on my questions regarding the ARRA?

cut-paste-run appears to be modus operandi