President Obama to Troops in Alaska: 'We'll Give You the Strategy and Clear Mission You Deserve'

Wow! Fellow Americans! we keep finding fault in everything that is done!
Stop it! Acting so bipolarish!!! seek
help! It is not Pres. Obama's fault!
He agreed to help fix alot of the problems. Can you or will you? I know you just wanna backbite, and cause more chaos.
Please stop. It really ain't nothing a Republican or a Democrat can do, it is going to take an American a human one at that! Like Pres. Obama. Relax we're ok! It's going to take time. I LOVE THE USA!!!

I would guess (and it is a guess) that each day's delay deciding would delay the arrival date of the troops one day. This might not be true.
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Yes, that is the conclusion people (many right wingers) have jumped to and presented as 'fact' - regrettably it is not backed up by any such statements from the Generals.

We are told Obama has four options on the table. Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s is the one requesting for another 40,000 troops for Afghanistan - and those troops are requested for next year.

To give you an idea of the logitics of deployment . . . .

General David Petraeus, the overall commander of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, told the same conference that a buildup in Afghanistan would be more difficult than President George W. Bush’s 2007 surge of troops into Iraq because of infrastructure gaps.

“We put 6,000 additional troops into Iraq each of five straight months,” during the 2007 deployment of reinforcements to quell violence in Baghdad, Petraeus said. “That’s an extraordinary logistical accomplishment but we had Kuwait” as a staging area for forces.

"Obama may decide this month whether to grant a request by his top commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, to increase the U.S. force of 68,000 in Afghanistan by as many as 40,000 personnel NEXT YEAR."

Bloomberg Press (November 2009)

Posted by: tierra | Nov 13, 2009 12:18:35 PM

Your conclusion is erroneous:

The Generals have stated the President has time to deliberate and receive the best council on this issue because it will not be possible to send troops into Afghanistan until next year at the earliest regardless.

1) General, not "the Generals". You made it sound like a consensus.
2) Nowhere does McChrystal state "the President has time..." That's your conclusion.
3) Nowhere does McChrystal state "regardless". I would guess (and it is a guess) that each day's delay deciding would delay the arrival date of the troops one day. This might not be true. There could be a drop-dead date, too. But we don't know because it is not explained in your quote.

in my business when people keep blaming the other people they get fired.
Posted by: daklipper

which is exactly why republicans were voted out of office 'en masse' in 2008

"Obama may decide this month whether to grant a request by his top commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, to increase the U.S. force of 68,000 in Afghanistan by as many as 40,000 personnel NEXT YEAR."

Bloomberg Press (November 2009)

The Generals have stated
Posted by: tierra | Nov 13, 2009 10:44:08 AM

Source, please.

I'm one of the Republicans posting here wanting President Obama to take action. I insist he do it quickly. He doesn't have military experience so he needs to listen to those who do.
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The Generals have stated the President has time to deliberate and receive the best council on this issue because it will not be possible to send troops into Afghanistan until next year at the earliest regardless. There is time for deliberation.

Also note that the base military budget HAS INCREASED by $21 billion since Democrats took control of Congress and the Whitehouse (and with Obama already having doubled the troops in Afghanistan, it is likely the operational budget has increased too).
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 12, 2009 10:30:54 PM

In other words, the Democrats and Obama/Biden are war mongerers...

Funny how the left cannot be pleased. Also funny is how it is hipocracy now but injustice a few month ago. Use your brain first then consult your heart. Not all answers are going to feel warm and fuzzy. The know-it-alls need to stop pointing fingers in the past and deal with today. Nostalgia is one thing, in my business when people keep blaming the other people they get fired.

Always taught my children when they got in trouble I would ask them what they did to contribute to the problem not what the other person did.

"the fetid smell of rightwing/republican hypocrisy fills the air......"
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Let's see if this one gets deleted. Won't type the long post again.

Ouch and Tierra: you don't know me so how can you so stupidly claim to know if I did not want action taken by President Bush? Sounds like the fetid air of leftwing arrogance is floating around.

I'm one of the Republicans posting here wanting President Obama to take action. I insist he do it quickly. He doesn't have military experience so he needs to listen to those who do.

He he can't make a decison on what to do, than I want him to bring the troops home until he can make a decision.

What the previous administration did or didn't do is not the issue. The issue is what this administration is going to do. President Obama campaigned saying he could do a better job of running the war....he needs to do it.

Being CIC of the military is NOT the same as being CEO of a business or President concerning the economy. People don't get shot or blown up with bombs while waiting on a decision about the economy.

"We’ll give you the strategy and clear mission you deserve..."

Sure.

It's George Bush's fault that Obama hasn't gotten close to that as yet. After all, Obama's only had a year to think about it.

Nephron, only further investigation will tell us if the Fort Hood shooting is a case of domestic terrorism. If it is the fault doesn't lie with Obama but with the FBI for not considering the major a threat after checking him out. And even then, it is an error built on not imagining how evil people can be to one another. Really, who could imagine the major shooting innocent soldiers while they were unarmed, soldiers just like the ones who he counseled for their mental problems after seeing death and injuries in battle. There were similar errors in judgment that left our domestic airplanes vulnerable. Remember how the pilots wanted their cockpit doors beefed up in case of hijackers, but the profit driven corporate heads said it wasn't necessary. This was after Israel warned us that our airport security was too lax.
In the Ford Hood incident, most likely it was a case of guy with a grudge with easy access to guns. The major appeared to have that combination of anger, religious righteousness and fear(he was being deployed into the war zone) that can be deadly to innocents.

Could Obama give one speech where he doesn't mention himself or say "MY administration?" He has to say how honored he us to be the soldiers' commander in chief ( subtle reminder thar he's above them.)

What's up with that headline? Do the troops in Alaska need a clear strategy and mission or is it the troops in Af-Pak? I think the troops in Alaska have a clear mission - "Stay warm" ;^)

"for all Presidents ramming through Congress as much of his political agenda as he can. "

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Left out important word, should read:
'for all Presidents THAN ramming through '

Give me a president like Bush anyday. The terrorists are not afraid now. They have become emboldened and are causibg Obama and the Democrats to hesitate. Obma will not make the decision he must.

funny how after 8 years in Afghanistan with a failed strategy, Bin Laden still free, understaffed with a lack of support for the troops, a refusal to send more troops by Bush,....
now..... immediate 'action' and decision is demanded by the 'right',

the fetid smell of rightwing/republican hypocrisy fills the air......
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so true . ..

I didn't vote for Bush. But I trust him. At least he kept us safe for 7 years. Look at this weak president, in less than a year we had a terrorist attack at our homeland. Unbelievable. This is just the begining of his presidency.

I didn't vote for Obama. I never trust him. He is not a decision maker. He is our propaganda in chief. Don't expect too much from him.

He can't answer the 3 am call. Hillary, we miss you.

funny how after 8 years in Afghanistan with a failed strategy, Bin Laden still free, understaffed with a lack of support for the troops, a refusal to send more troops by Bush,....
now..... immediate 'action' and decision is demanded by the 'right',

the fetid smell of rightwing/republican hypocrisy fills the air......

jwh: It's apparent you will not change you view, and neither will I.

I love to debate, but I hate to argue. It is so counter-productive and detrimental to our nation.

I will stand by my statements about our troops. The President needs to act quickly. If he can't make a decision, or decides not to send sufficient troops so they can accomplish their mission AND protect themselves, then he needs to bring them home.

People say they would come home to no jobs. I say our veterans get jobs before anyone else. They are building schools and housing and hospitals over there, we can pay them the same salary to do those things here.

And if we have no jobs for them, then we need to keep them on the military payroll and provide training and opportunities to improve themselves.

We do that sort of thing for civilians, we can do it for our returning warriors.

God bless, and God bless America.