The Presidential Planner

"A little late, my friends, as my home isn't worth squat."
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Home prices in the United States are up about 6% since Bush left office.

And another tax reduction to help spur the economy.

Posted by: tierra | Nov 6, 2009 4:11:25 PM

Excellent work Congress! Now that you have helped save all the liar loan deadbeats, banks, first-time home buyers, GM, and anyone else you can politically think of - you finally get around to thinking about those who could have helped slow this whole thing down: home owners with good credit and enough equity to sell their home, buy another one and fill it up with durable goods.

A little late, my friends, as my home isn't worth squat. But hey! I'll be happy to throw in a hundred grand of my own money to move and get that dandy tax credit I'm also paying for!

President Obama will formally sign into law the “Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009,” in the Oval Office this morning.

Passed by the House and Senate this week, the law will extend unemployment benefits by 20 weeks in states hardest hit by the economic downturn and by 14 weeks everywhere else. It also extends an $8,000 first-time home buyers tax credit to homes placed under contract by the end of next April.
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Much needed my many. And another tax reduction to help spur the economy.

Robert Reich:

I sincerely hope America gets genuine health reform and I hope it's stronger than what's emerging in the Senate. (Whoever voted for Joe Lieberman last time around ought to pray for continued good health.) I worry, though, that Obama's strategy may turn out to be a mistake comparable to Clinton's overemphasis on deficit reduction. Obama's focus on health care rather than jobs, when the economy is still so fragile and unemployment moving toward double digits, could make it appear that the administration has its priorities confused. While affordable health care is critically important to Americans, making a living is more urgent. Yet the administration's efforts to date on this more basic concern have been neither particularly visible nor coherent.

Robert Reich?
Robert Reich!

'They are definitely "banned." You just can't ask anyone for proof of citizenship. "Are you a citizen? Yes. Good, sign here please!'

Double check your information source. You are either mistaken or misinformed. Mistaken happens often enough, but you should correct your mistake so that you don't allow someone else to look ridiculous like you do. Its just common courtesy.

Misinformed is more likely these days, though.

What most likely happened is that your news source, while staying barely technically accurate, led you to believe the false information you cited. If I were you, I'd take whatever 'news' sources you use with more than a grain of salt.

Gotta roll...
If I don't get back here today, have a great weekend y'all. Tomorrow will be interesting.
Posted by: Alyson | Nov 6, 2009 12:07:07 PM

Translation: You all live long, dull and uninteresting lives.

"Which reminds me, did any of you see Jon Stewart imitating Glen Beck last nite."

It was pretty good.

Though he needs to work on the voice.

Hoyer has already come out and said the vote will be pushed to Sunday or possibly next week. Turns out it was just another Hail Nancy pass.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 12:28:21 PM

What are they waiting for? All in I say! Let's get this puppy rolling! 20, no 37, 42 uh, er, million people are uninsured and need help from the Entitlement Kings!

Only those of your ilk would be quite incompetent.

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And bent (though that likely wouldn't stop many Fox pundits, I realize-- particularly those with the highest ratings which is likely why so many teabots were found to be so misinformed-- or partially informed with gross distortions mixed in their "facts". Which reminds me, did any of you see Jon Stewart imitating Glen Beck last nite. Ha!)

Sorry hit post comment before finishing the thought as I have a few windows open here. Gotta roll...

If I don't get back here today, have a great weekend y'all. Tomorrow will be interesting.

Both of you just said the same thing, but jhw for some reason labels it a lie.
Man, the "lie" thing gets old.
Posted by: MayBee | Nov 6, 2009 11:34:19 AM

Depends on what the definition of IS is.

This is all ultimately a moot point. This was a fluke election for a meaningless seat.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 11:21:09 AM

The President would disagree. He was "heartened" by the victory and is taking time out to meet with Owens (instead of taking the time to mull over the two wars he is running).

Man, the "lie" thing gets old.
MayBee | Nov 6, 2009 11:34:19 AM

It does indeed. I wish people would quit telling lies.

"Explicitly banned, while technically accurate, you know is a complete falsehood. There's zero enforcement, zero citizenship verification, nothing. "

Again, I invite anyone who actually cares to form an opinion based on reality to google up some fact checks (note: neither Hannity nor Olberman nor any of their ilk offer 'fact checks,' find something with real logic and cites) and decide for themselves.

Illegals are explicitly banned from receiving health care under the new plan.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 11:10:18 AM

Liberal talking point #286

They are definitely "banned." You just can't ask anyone for proof of citizenship. "Are you a citizen? Yes. Good, sign here please!"

Bush was on TV trying to comfort us.

Obama had hours to prepare his remarks.
The man just doesn't get it.

Posted by: kyle | Nov 6, 2009 11:33:39 AM

Kyle, I thought Bush was off limits. Eyeroll. Much of this is in the eye of the beholder. The right wingnuts don't want us to mention how Bush made us feel and/or what we thought of how he conducted himself or spoke because that's in the past-- but how you see Bush is not how many, many, many folks see him. I was never once comforted by the man. In fact, I cringed most of the time. I don't think he's a horrible person or anything but I never got over the impression that he was a wholly incompetent rich kid riding on daddy's coattails that didn't really win his first election. I get that you harbor ill feelings toward Obama and don't like him-- and possibly feel the same way about Obama that I did about Bush-- but your banging this drum over and over on multiple threads is boring.

Something horrible happened. Why politicize it?

On a more pertinent point, there's a letter from a reader who at Fort Hood at Kevin Drum's blog. My heart goes out out to all who were there or had loved ones there.

You sound more like the ignorant masses arrogantly sopping off his expertise.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 10:02:20 AM

I don't even have to take a survey to know I can always count on a personal insult from a liberal.

Didn't mean to mislead about the "list" - my point being without hard data, this 10.2% unemployment RATE is complete fiction. They have no way of calculating the real rate because they know so many people do not appear in anyones's statistics. So they use this idiotic "survey" and then publish it like it's gospel.

BTW: They only survey 60,000 and use the data to report several "statistics." That's a lot of "data" (snort) extrapolated from a random sampling of 60,000 out of the whole potential workforce.

Thanks again for the personal insult.

Explicitly banned, while technically accurate, you know is a complete falsehood. There's zero enforcement, zero citizenship verification, nothing.

vs.

That is a lie and I invite anyone reading to google up all the factchecks on it they want. The method of citizenship verification is not explicitly defined but the requirement for it is.
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Both of you just said the same thing, but jhw for some reason labels it a lie.
Man, the "lie" thing gets old.

Maybe Obama should pencil in an apology for the insensitive way he addressed the shooting at Fort Hood.

If this is how he tries to reassure a frightened nation he failed miserably.

Bush may have continued reading with kids as he processed what happened on 9/11.

In a matter of minutes Bush was on TV trying to comfort us.

Obama had hours to prepare his remarks.
The man just doesn't get it.

And Peas, what I see in those numbers is that 59% want to work with the bills on the table. You realize I'm one who would say I want major changes
Posted by: Alyson | Nov 6, 2009 10:21:01 AM

Wow! I didn't see THAT one coming! Some of the 33% may want to see major changes like a single payer system to make the bill even worse (or better) than it already is. So I guess the option is vague enough that a pundit could do whatever they want with 33% of the responses. Maybe we should just throw out the 33% and say

26% like the bill with minor changes;
39% want to throw it out and start over or stop working on HC completely

There's zero enforcement, zero citizenship verification, nothing.
Concerned in OH | Nov 6, 2009 11:18:29 AM

That is a lie and I invite anyone reading to google up all the factchecks on it they want. The method of citizenship verification is not explicitly defined but the requirement for it is. I suppose you would prefer another 100 pages defining the exact mechanism of enforcement, points of verification (what if they're unconscious - exactly when do you withhold treatment pending verification for each of the hundreds of different triage situations?), database operating system, etc.

Saying there is nothing in the bill is a blatant lie. Again folks, don't listen to Concerned here or me - google up some factchecks, run down their cites, and be informed. There is a debate to be had on health care and lies like this one gets in the way of the real issue.

Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters feel that America's best days are in the past, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. This marks the highest level of voter pessimism in two years and is up 13 points from a year ago when Barack Obama was elected president. Thirty-five percent (35%) feel the nation's best days are still to come, down 13 points since President Obama's inauguration in January.