Today’s Qs for O’s WH – 11/6/2009

"So, you agree with Obama that dissent must be silenced?"
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I agree with candidate Obama that the far right wing fringe seem almost proud of their own ignorance. They're almost boastful about how poorly informed they are.

Healthcare, Pelosi style:

Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

"at what point does an attack become considered a terrorist attack, even -- even if it's a domestic terrorist attack?"

I know this one! At the point that the media determines the attacker has some kind of right wing ideology. Even faster if the attacker is a Christian!

This White House has gotten bad at listening. It paid the price for that on Tuesday.

Fascist Hyena | Nov 6, 2009 2:07:30 PM

Not sure how picking up another seat in the House to help out Pelosi is really paying a price, but whatever you say.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 2:18:19 PM
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The comments posted by Fascist Hyena at 2:07:30 PM were actually written by Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal.

Quote:

"What is a shout out?"

Kinda like a fist bump. Or like a "wassup bro"

Or like a "thank you for the slimey donations"

"The right wing doesn't have a clue what's going on. Time for them to start reading some real journalism."

So, you agree with Obama that dissent must be silenced?

"What does this tell us? Moderates have apparently balked at the pressure Pelosi has put on them to swallow the public option and a $1.8 trillion price tag. Today’s unemployment numbers probably had something to do with that as well."

Written by Ed Morrisey of the right wing blog Hot Air.

Fascist hyena prefers to steal other's work rather than giving them credit.

Posted by: tierra | Nov 6, 2009 3:55:33 PM

I take it that was off topic?

Voters in two congressional seat had the opportunity this week to move Democrats OUT of the federal government and show their disappointment with Congress and the federal Democratic administration. What did they do?

Voters ELECTED Democrats to Congress - booted Republicans out of one seat and elected 2 Democrats.

The right wing doesn't have a clue what's going on. Time for them to start reading some real journalism.

This White House has gotten bad at listening. It paid the price for that on Tuesday.
Fascist Hyena | Nov 6, 2009 2:07:30 PM

Not sure how picking up another seat in the House to help out Pelosi is really paying a price, but whatever you say.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 2:18:19 PM

Oh. Ha ha! I get it. Cause the two governor's races... whatever.

Did you see anything in the post about Congress? No. It says White House. Repeat after me "W-h-i-t-e H-o-u-s-e." There you go guv'nah!

Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting....From NBC Chicago
Posted by: and u call this a president? | Nov 6, 2009 2:08:23 PM

Read that this morning. I was shocked! Chicago!? What the heck?! They were all wee wee'd up about it!

Hmmmm. Exactly what does "motive" have to do with the President saying "no" and democrats in Congress saying "yes" re whether illegal alien get taxpayer-paid health care under Obamacare?

Posted by: TParty4USA | Nov 6, 2009 2:16:32 PM

Ooo! Oooo! I know! I know!

Nada.

write the entire thing personally ... Yeah, that's what Obama should have done.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 2:00:09 PM

Personally, I prefer he write his letter of resignation... and take Biden with him.

GIBBS [talking]: Congress, obviously, is working through a process that will ultimately, we believe, before the end of the year get a bill to the president's desk. I think there are still discussions going on, on both of these two issues up on Capitol Hill. While the president would like it, tomorrow will not be the final vote on a bill coming to his desk, but he sees tomorrow as an important step forward. He'll go to Capitol Hill tomorrow to advocate for continuing that progress and passing in the House of Representatives a bill.

Gibbs [thinking]: Yum. I love french fries!

What does this tell us?  Moderates have apparently balked at the pressure Pelosi has put on them to swallow the public option and a $1.8 trillion price tag.  Today’s unemployment numbers probably had something to do with that as well.  Robert Reich advised Democrats to stop their push on health-care overhauls and start worrying about job losses, or risk becoming an irrelevancy in the midterms.  The moderates in Pelosi’s caucus probably came to that conclusion on Tuesday night.

“A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal action,” stated the CBO [in 1994]. “The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States.”

“An individual mandate would have two features that, in combination, would make it unique,” said the CBO. “First, it would impose a duty on individuals as members of society. Second, it would require people to purchase a specific service that would be heavily regulated by the federal government.”

In addition, an October 2009 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report said that mandating individuals to buy health insurance may be "the most challenging question" posed by the health care reform proposal.

“Whether such a requirement would be constitutional under the Commerce Clause is perhaps the most challenging question posed by such a proposal, as it is a novel issue whether Congress may use this clause to require an individual to purchase a good or service,” the CRS report states.

My personal opinion is that the current Supreme Court would uphold the mandate on the basis of some fairly sweeping opinions concerning the reach of congressional power under the Commerce Clause, but one obviously can't be certain.

Kratovil's statement:

“We need health care reform that reduces long-term health care spending and expands coverage, but we must find a fiscally sustainable approach to accomplish these goals. After months of thoroughly reviewing legislative proposals and speaking with constituents and stakeholders, I am not satisfied that this bill before us is a sustainable solution. While I applaud the efforts to improve this bill, I still am concerned that this bill does not do enough to bend the long-term cost curve and that it lacks adequate provisions to reduce the deficit and protect small businesses. While I will continue to work with my colleagues to pursue a better bill as this process continues, I do not support HR 3962 and will vote against it when it comes to the floor this weekend.”

Don't count on what Obama has said.

Look at what has happened in the past.....it is the best indicator of what will happen in the future, and on that basis, it is my own view, that Illegal Immigrants MOST CERTAINLY will be able to access free health care, on the taxpayer's nickle.

Breaking: Kratovil of Md. to vote no; House vote delayed. Kratovil listened and heard.

I believe they'll get 218, pairing votes to let the most vulnerable vote no for cosmetic reasons. But Mr. Kratovil will not be among them.

The Iraqi government just awarded a juicy contract to Exxon. Let me be the first to applaud Mr. Obama for keeping our troops there in order to make this oil deal possible.