I think both need more of a reality check in that we (USA) are partly to blame for the situation in Iraq. The Bush administration lied and failed the people of this country and the people of Iraq. To abandon the country would also be irresponsible at the same time having no plan when we went in was foolish. Terrorism is going to be a problem for a long time. Our focus should have been Osama Bin Laden not Iraq. President Bush Made a mess out of a very strong international view of the USA after 911. We (USA) could have followed Osama to the end of the earth, caught him, paraded into Time Square, cut off his head and put it on a stick and no one would have said a thing. Because of the Bush administration the next president will have his hands full trying to regain our (USA) position in the world.

I don't think that Obama needs to comment further. He certainly echos my feelings -- especially serving the best interests of United States or stabilizing Iraq.

McCain has morphed a lot in the past 6-7 years; he isn't even recognizable as the man he used to be -- the job has past him by as well as his progressive thinking.

The issues confronting us have two basic thoughts, stay and fight the terriorists or plan a withdrawl from the region and wait for the next attack! Do you really believe the goal for Osama was to control Iraq? They wish to punish and change our way of life! We just proving to the world that we like our wars short and to the point! The world opinion has always been help us against our foes and then GO HOME! I'm glad that some people still believe in what is the correct thing to do, rather than what is popular! When was war popular?

This is not a war, it is an occupation. What would have happened if the French, after Yorktown, had decided to stay four or five more years until we were "able to govern ourselves?"

I agree with Obama.

As an aside, didn't these two agree to limit spending if they happened to end up going head to head or am I just hearing things.

Bush got us into Iraq. A lot of Dems voted for it. Obama wasn't a Senator when Bush misled the Congress as well as the entire world. But, as Jay smartly says the next President will inherent this situation, and mass withdrawal will mean mass genocide, and regional consequences beyond "make love not war" statements. Lets get real here. McCain is not following Bush. He has called for more US Military since 2003 to train Iraq troops and try to stabilize their Government and Infrastructure as best as we could. It was a strategy that Bush is now trying to employ after four years, and yeah we are frustrated, but leaving now will put us in worse shape than before we went in. Was the war botched? Yes. Should we have gone in with Bush's weak coalition? No. But, again, the Democrats have no clue what starting to leave in 120 days will do. I do, and so do John McCain and Joseph Lieberman. This is not Vietnam. Iran will move in, because they believe that it is there territory anyway. Remember the Iraq/Iran war from 1980-1989. Well now Iran is far stronger, and can roll over Iraq in about a week (with Nuclear capabilities). And then what do you think NATO would have to do when the whole Middle East is about to Implode into a Shite/Suni Civil War? Leaving Iraq is much more complicated than you think. George W. Bush will go down as the worst President of our time, but we better be very careful that our next Commander in Chief Democrat or Republican, understands that getting into Iraq and getting out of Iraq are two very different issues and problems.