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EXCLUSIVE: Cheney One-on-One
April 04, 2007 12:03 PM
ABC News Radio's Ann Compton Reports: In an exclusive interview with ABC News Radio, Vice President Dick Cheney greeted the release of fifteen British sailors from Iran, blasted Democratic efforts to attach a timetable for withdrawal to an Iraq spending bill, and played the role of political pundit in the 2008 Republican presidential contest.
Regarding the soon to be released British sailors, Cheney told ABC News Radio, "I don't know all the details, obviously, but I'm glad to know that the British sailors will be released," quickly adding that it was "unfortunate they were ever taken in the first place" and pointing out "there's considerable evidence that they were, in fact, in Iraqi territorial waters when this happened."
Cheney said he did not know if there was a 'quid-pro-quo' ensuring their release but said if there was such an exchange, it sets a bad precedent for the future.
"If you get into the business where you reward that kind of behavior, there will be more of that kind of behavior," Cheney said.
The Vice President also sounded off on the emergency spending bill for the Iraq War currently winding its way through Congress with a timetable for withdrawal attached.
"The president is the commander-in-chief," Cheney declared, "he's the one that makes the decisions about the use of miltary force."
Blasting Democrats who support the withdrawal measure, Cheney asserted, "They are trying to usurp the ability of the president to make those basic decisions," adding that he felt their legislative efforts would "interfere with the actions of our troops on the ground."
"We made it very clear," Cheney concluded, "what we want is a clean bill."
On another hot topic, the Vice President continued the White House's criticism of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's, D-Calif., Middle East tour which included a recent stop in Syria to meet with President Bashar Assad.
Cheney called Pelosi's diplomatic venture "unfortunate" explaining, "the fact of the matter is Bashar Assad has been a bad actor in many respects," citing Syria as a "conduit for Iranian support of Hezbollah" and a "flow of jihadists" into Iraq.
Echoing President Bush, who on Tuesday labeled Pelosi's visit to Syria "counterproductive", Cheney added, "He's been isolated and cut off be of his bad behavior. The unfortunate thing about the Speaker's visit is it sort of breaks down that barrier."
"His bad behavior's being rewarded in a sense," Cheney concluded to ABC News Radio.
On the more general question of his relationship with the newly minted Democratic Speaker of the House, Cheney smiled and said simply, "It is what it is."
After complimenting Pelosi's "historic" status as the first female Speaker, Cheney also said, "There are fundamental differences. Nancy Pelosi is basically a, you know, what (former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations) Jeane Kirkpatrick used to call a San Francisco Democrat; she's a liberal and those are her views, there's nothing wrong with that, that's her world view...(but) we're bound to have disagreements and we do."
Expecting his sixth grandchild next month from daughter Mary Cheney and her lesbian partner Heather Poe, Cheney reiterated that he had not changed his views on the Clinton era 'Don't ask, Don't tell' policy concerning homosexuals serving in the military and repeated his support for states taking the lead in gay rights equality issues.
Cheney, who returned to the hospital recently to treat a deep vein thrombosis, insisted he was feeling good and said, "I was fortunate to catch it early and I've got great medical care."
Declining to detail much about his post-White House plans except to say, "I'm not aiming to do anything in the public spotlight," later further clarifying, "but I do expect that the public aspect of it will end it ," Cheney did comment on the 2008 Republican presidential field.
Insisting he would stay out of the presidential fray until "at least after the convention", Cheney declined to predict a nomination winner but could not resist several pundit volleys from ABC News Radio's Ann Compton.
When asked whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is too old to be president, Cheney answered, "No."
Asked whether former New York Mayor Giuliani has been married too many times to be president, the Vice President also retorted, "No."
And, finally, when asked whether religion would be an impediment for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Cheney again replied, "No."
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Cheney has about as much credibility with the American Public as a serial killer. Why anyone gives this regrettably disdainful guy airtime is beyond me.
What a joke, when he leaves the White House he will be rolling around in all that money he has been able to hide from his War profiteering, thanks to his sweet deals with haliburton in Iraq. Cheney is a despicable human being, thank God he's almost out of our face. Let's hope it's for good.
Posted by: Sue Filutze | Apr 4, 2007 12:30:29 PM
Mr. Cheney needs to go back to 8th grade and study the Constitution again, but then he probably had better things to do with his time back then.
Congress fairly explicitly has the responsibility of funding the Army. However the Army can't be funded for more than two years at a time, this is so Congress has a control over a President ignoring We, the People.
Posted by: ntsc | Apr 4, 2007 12:33:58 PM
"echocing the president's words" - they all have the same talking points. Must meet first thing every morning and get them memorized!
Posted by: sunny | Apr 4, 2007 1:07:39 PM
Asked if he had a decent, honorable bone in his body, Cheney again replied, "No."
Posted by: republiCON | Apr 4, 2007 1:36:54 PM
According to the Cardiac Kid, it seems everyone other than GOPinheads are behaving badly.
Tsk tsk tsk.
When will they learn to behave and use the system to rob, pillage, and kill like Cheney does?
Posted by: georgembush | Apr 4, 2007 1:38:46 PM
So if I am reading this right and applying the fact that the VP has been completely proven wrong on his past judgements, I can conclude that McCain is too old, Guliani has too many ex wives and Rommney is the wrong religion. Pelosi is doing the right thing and Iran should be commended for releasing the British sailors.
Posted by: Agjobs | Apr 4, 2007 1:40:28 PM
once again the un asked queation is why. why is so terrible for nancy pelosi to vivst syria but no mention of the republican visit last week?
Posted by: butch | Apr 4, 2007 1:50:44 PM
Shooter Cheney: YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY ON ANY SUBJECT.
End of story.
Posted by: tuckerk | Apr 4, 2007 1:52:38 PM
Funny, isn't it? Rep. Joe Pitts and two other Republican congressmen are ALSO visiting Syrian President
Assad at the same time as Speaker Pelosi...and somehow, only she is the one "rewarding bad behavior". Or, did I miss out on the hypocrisy express?
Posted by: Lisa L | Apr 4, 2007 1:53:06 PM
Why is it we still listen to anything this man has to say? Just asking.
Posted by: Shawn | Apr 4, 2007 1:57:58 PM
I love Dick Cheney. His grandchildren are very lucky to have him and so are his children.
Posted by: newman | Apr 4, 2007 1:58:27 PM
Asked whether Cheney thought Romney, McCain, and Giuliani were too warmongering and authoritarian and lied too much for the Republicans, Cheney said, "No. Republicans are addicted to war and power and lies and can't ever get enough."
Posted by: Barry Mauer | Apr 4, 2007 1:58:44 PM
You can gauge Cheney's answers to Compton's questions by his track record while in office. He's batting a 1.000, he's been wrong about everything!
Posted by: 4tpaine | Apr 4, 2007 2:03:40 PM
See ya Dick!
Why didn't ABC News ask him about the GOP going to Syria, and the White House's help in sending them there?
Does ABC love to leave out huge pieces of stories to make the GOP talking-points?
What about the message that Pelosi brought to Syria from Israel? Why did ABC fail to mention the most important aspect of her visit to Damascus?
Ommitting this stuff is basically lying, and maybe that's one reason ABC has seen it's viewership completely tank lately.
Posted by: Volum | Apr 4, 2007 2:07:16 PM
Like anyone believes what the President or the Vice-president says anymore. Lies, lies, and more lies that is what has come out of this administation since day one.
Posted by: Kathy | Apr 4, 2007 2:13:07 PM
Why wasn't the fact that the GOP had a delegation in Syria days before Speaker Pelosi visited noted in your story? Why aren't the republicans as outraged by that fact? Why are you, in the press, so obviously biased against full-truth in your reporting? ALL THE FACTS, make an informed public! Or is that what you're afraid of?
Posted by: Dave Hoffer | Apr 4, 2007 2:14:56 PM
In reading this article and all the NO's that Cheney gave on the various questions on the presidential candidates to date. He should have learned how to use the word NO when it came to mimicking Bush and giving the high 5's for getting us into this ill advised conflict and using WMD and a phony report that everyone knew was false but yet used by Bush in the State of the Union speech. By the way. All you Moron's that follow this administrations lead and patriotic call for arms. I would be interested to know how many of you have lost loved one's for a dream?
Posted by: Ted Lipniarski | Apr 4, 2007 2:18:23 PM
I'm so glad DICK cheney has "..got great medical care."
Good for him. He deserves it and the rest of us 47 million uninsured don't.
You know, some animals are more equal than others.
Posted by: Reichstadt | Apr 4, 2007 2:39:56 PM
Why are you not asking anyone about the "right-wings" visits to Syria? Too much ditzney in your reporting. Getting as bad as O'Really!!!!!
Posted by: Jim | Apr 4, 2007 2:40:42 PM
It would be nice if reporters would actually do their job for once and not act as a mouthpiece. How hypocritical is it to criticize Pelosi for going to Syria, when the day before 3 republicans were there doing what she was doing. God forbide someone do some research and ask a remotely tough question. This is why the public was allowed to be lied to about Iraq, lazy journalists who are more worried about access than telling the real story. Way to go abc, protect your investers, got to get those tax breaks!
Posted by: craig | Apr 4, 2007 2:44:04 PM
Can you imagine Cheney deriding anyone for bad behavior? If that isn't calling the kettle black....
Posted by: Arnie | Apr 4, 2007 2:45:12 PM
I know the press who travel with Cheney,Bush, etc must "be careful" with their questioning OR they will be frozen out by this group. My question, though, is why any real journalist would want to be around this Administration any more. There is no real news here - it's more like serving as their PR outlet. Instead of saying, Ann Compton is an ABC reporter, why not say that Ann Compton, is Cheney's spokesperson". Why does any of the press bother with attending the WH Press briefings anymore? It's only an Adminsitration Propaganda session. Why bother?
Posted by: Larry J | Apr 4, 2007 3:05:07 PM
I very rarely read and never ever watch ABC. Their credibility went out the window years ago, the same for bush and his cronies. The bush administration is so used to yes men and scared newsmen around them they can't believe what's happening. A congress elected by the people standing on their constitutional rights. Cheney is the same liar he has always been going all the the way back to,"I'm not a crook" Nixon!
Posted by: Thomas | Apr 4, 2007 3:17:14 PM
I hope the next VP has a demon purification ritual in the office before setting foot in there.
Posted by: James | Apr 4, 2007 3:22:32 PM
But somehow compton mananged to forget to ask cheney about the three republicans who met with asad on sunday. well done compton and abc.
Posted by: klyde | Apr 4, 2007 3:32:50 PM
Dick Cheney, a fat tomato worm, drop him in a tin can of kerosene.
Posted by: gopindrag | Apr 4, 2007 3:33:43 PM
Only Mel Brooks could do Vice President Frankenstein, I mean Cheney, credit ("Repulicans-good, Democrats-bad"). This "exclusive interview" is just another example of how poor a job the media has done over the past 7 years in covering this administration. I know that the press has, in the past, cut Roosevelt some slack (not showing him in a wheelchair) and could have been a little more aggressive with Kennedy...but, c'mon, why are they so hypnotized by the Republican laugh machine? I used to have respect for the press, but I lost it about the time Fox News came along and dragged the rest of the "old media" into the same hole. If I want news, it seems I have to go to BBC or other overseas outlets to find anything worthwhile (although the Washington Post does good work once in awhile). The puffery reflected in this interview does ABC no credit.
Posted by: Dirik Lolkus | Apr 4, 2007 3:35:31 PM
Aren't there Republican members of Congress in Syria right now?
Posted by: Ryan | Apr 4, 2007 3:39:52 PM
I have a great idea! From now on, get someone to draw Cheney at these little brainstorming sessions and use conversation balloons for the dialogue. That way you can put the whole episode in the funny pages where it belongs.
Posted by: TSnow | Apr 4, 2007 3:40:55 PM
Come on, Ann Compton - you used to be a good journalist. Why did you even conduct this interview? It's a puff piece that belittles the integrity of readers/listeners. Our country is in a real mess. Step up to the plate Ann. Ask Cheney why he doesnt debate these issues publicly, or go around the country and listen to Americans. In this "report" you just let him spew partisan nonsense in a comfortable room and let him get away with it. You should be as ashamed as he should be.
Posted by: Ron | Apr 4, 2007 3:43:05 PM
AND TELL ME AGAIN WHY THIS INCOMPETENT, CRIMINAL WAR PROFITEER ISN'T IN PRISON?
Posted by: DOUG | Apr 4, 2007 3:43:54 PM
Why does the media, all of the media, play this game about non disclosure of information going, while just showing "their" side of the story? Is the internet the only place to find "both/all sides" of a story? Where is Walter Cronkite when you need him?
Posted by: tom bell | Apr 4, 2007 3:50:02 PM
Lies.. Lies.. and more Lies from this Treasonous Administration who has prostituted the United States government to conglomerates and the richest 1%.
The Bush Administration is pouring billions of American Taxpayer dollars into a massive propaganda effort by the "Ministry of Propaganda". They are paying the media conglomerates such as NBC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and ABC billions of American Taxpayer dollars to spread lies and hide and obfuscate the truth via the lying lips of the pundits such as Carlson, Blitzer, Mathews, and Russert, etc.
Posted by: CurtJ | Apr 4, 2007 3:52:06 PM
Dick Cheney has more common sense and political savvy than all of D.C. put together. Though he's been villified, history is going to show that Dick Cheney was brilliant. I love that he doesn't cave to the pressure and holds his ground. His recent comment that setting a timetable for withdrawal in Iraq is "like telling our enemy to watch the clock and wait us out" is right on the money. I wish he'd run in 08, but between his fragile health and the absolute slander he's been subjected to, he wouldn't stand a chance. I'm telling you, history will have a very different take on Richard Cheney.
Posted by: Joy O | Apr 4, 2007 3:56:55 PM
When will this administration Break down and realize that a military solution alone is not the answer! We must start diplomatic talks with the Syrians,Irainians and Saudis to end this conflict. However it seems that this adminstration just wants to kill and de-stabilize the Iraqis and the peace process, all for the love of money.
Posted by: ken | Apr 4, 2007 3:58:23 PM
ABC "News" you are not doing your job... unless of course your job is PR agent to MR. Cheney. WHY DID YOU NOT ASK HIM ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS WHO TRAVELED TO DAMASCUS? But by asking that, you may have made him mad and I doubt that's how ABC operates. You would rather ignore the truth in order to make this administration look truthful.
Posted by: clint | Apr 4, 2007 4:00:03 PM
Does anyone care about Cheney anymore or think his comments are relevant? No
Posted by: steve | Apr 4, 2007 4:00:26 PM
Dick;
We have a room set aside for you here. Great free medical and psychiatric care will be provided. Please check in ASAP.
PS: No, you won't need your briefcase, or your attitude.
Posted by: Ward N. Inchief | Apr 4, 2007 4:04:45 PM
Newman, don't love Cheney too much. He certainly doesn't love you!!!!
Posted by: JeffG | Apr 4, 2007 4:05:40 PM
asked if he would be happy to put on the uniform and fight in Iraq, Cheney replied, "No."
asked if he knew where Osama bin Laden is hiding, Cheney again replied, No."
Posted by: steve | Apr 4, 2007 4:07:23 PM
When asked whether he supports a minimum wage hike to help the 20 million who live below the poverty line, Cheney answered, "No."
Asked whether he gives a crap about the other 2 branches of government, the Vice President answered in exasperated fashion, "No!", the left abruptly.
Posted by: Seattle Ed | Apr 4, 2007 4:14:16 PM
popular guy
Posted by: michael | Apr 4, 2007 4:20:36 PM
what a bunch of maroons...fist of all, you idiots apparently can't read or you would NOT keep repeating the same comment about the Republican delegation to Syria!!! Read a couple of posts or do you just enjoy hearing yourself rant soooo much. The reason you don't hear anything about the Republican trip is that they are NOT the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, the 3rd in line for the White House....DUH....get a grip you whiners...second of all, for the guy that asked about Israels message for Assad, the message is one that has been delivered before, that IF the Syrians meet certain conditions, they will talk...no news, but you guys want it to mean something soooo bad to make Little Miss Naivety Pelosi seem so wonderful.....I swear, give you libs enough rope and sooner or later you will hang yourselves...the sooner the better
Posted by: sanity | Apr 4, 2007 4:23:12 PM
I don't trust anything that Dick Cheney has to say. He's a warmonger and a liar of the worst sort. And why was it so bad for Pelosi to go to Syria when members of his party were there the day before? It's pure hipocrisy...
Posted by: Andy | Apr 4, 2007 4:28:08 PM
How sad to think that so many of our protesters, most if not all, have never played a leadership roll in any amount have all the correct answers for our country's down-fall who could accomplish more with a few words of encouragement - especially when so many Americans are under seige by an enemy who appears to have fooled the protesters. George W is not a perfect president. Infact America has never had a perfect president[and there are no perfect citizens]. Perhaps if more Christians obeyed God's Word and prayed for those in the poletical field - those in authority over us - God - and there is a God - might alter the course of our present-day society. May God help George my President.
Posted by: Frank Chittock | Apr 4, 2007 4:32:31 PM
It's so easy to make negative comments about an elected official, especially if the one that is making the comment is just as naive on politics as my 8th grade grandaughter. So, if you are such an expert in the field of politics, get up there and show us your talent. That or shut your trap. Mr Chaney is doing a fine job, and we should be supporting him, and not mimiking. GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Tony Aquiningoc | Apr 4, 2007 4:35:22 PM
The reason the Republican visit is different than the Pelosi visit as they went over with a different message than Pelosi, as evidenced by the Syrian state run newspaper that said their visit was, "A slap in the face to Syria". As opposed to Pelosi who is parading around like their little lap dog.
She IS undermining our policy and confusing the issue. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and get real information.
Posted by: Logical One | Apr 4, 2007 4:47:01 PM
Cheney comments about Assad Bashar being a bad actor in many respects, and isolated and cut off because of his bad behavior. I find much humor in the fact that these comments so appropriately describe his own (Cheney's) situation. Thank you, Ann Compton, for rousing the draft-dodging chicken hawk from his isolation, and reminding the public of his evil presence. It is understandable that any mention to Cheney of the GOP's recent visit to Syria might compromise ABC's future access to the VP. EXCLUSIVE:Cheney-One-on-One, take a bow Ann.
Posted by: Lance | Apr 4, 2007 4:56:54 PM
The key to this is to realize he seems to have absolutely no conscience not matter what the circumstances. I find myself chuckling at his out of touch bubble boy comments. I can hardly wait until there is a new administration and more facts surface as to how he has raped the taxpayer.
Posted by: Gra | Apr 4, 2007 5:03:14 PM
ABC gets an opportunity to ask Cheney questions and this is the best they can do? ABC really is just Fox Lite.
Posted by: bbp | Apr 4, 2007 5:10:35 PM
Hey, isn't this one of the guys that play that game "one lies and the other one swears to it."? You know the one I mean, the "Bush-Cheney HaHa Look How Stupid the American Peope Are, They Really believe everything We Say!" Not anymore fellas, hang it up.
Ron
Posted by: Ron N | Apr 4, 2007 5:19:53 PM
I didn't see where this took place. Did ABC actually go down into Cheney's little dungeon hole for this interview?
But seriously, I agree with others in wondering why ANYONE should have ANY reason to believe a word that just came out of his mouth. The dude simply cannot speak truth.
Posted by: ironchef | Apr 4, 2007 5:28:54 PM
everybody is still interested in what he says.
Posted by: robert lackey | Apr 4, 2007 5:32:57 PM
"I love Dick Cheney. His grandchildren are very lucky to have him and so are his children."
Chaney will even stoop so low as to shill in this comment section...
shame shame shame
Posted by: orfelbleep | Apr 4, 2007 5:50:55 PM
It is hard to believe Mr. Cheney is still expressing his erroneous opinions in public! The majority of the American people hears no credibilty in his words. We have not forgotten statements such: The insurgency is in it's final throes! Saddam Hussein's regime is hiding WMD! Or: We can be attacked in 45 minutes... bla bla bla...This guy credibility is ZERO and he brings total loss of credibility to the office of the VP>
Posted by: Louis Pereira | Apr 4, 2007 5:51:21 PM
Awesome journalism there, Ann. Way to really get to the bottom of things.
Really, not even a single question to him about why it was wrong for Pelosi to make a diplomatic visit to Syria when three GOP Congressmen had just made the same trip?
Why the journalistic cowardice? Why let this man continue to lie and set the journalistic agenda, without challenging even a single claim of his?
This is an utterly useless bit of propaganda, and wasn't worth the time it took to read.
Posted by: SpinyNorman | Apr 4, 2007 5:56:00 PM
It's nice that multimillionaire Cheney has "great healthcare" at taxpayer expense but would no doubt block any universal healthcare measure for uninsured Americans. This man is nothing but a corporate prostitute with no credibility whatsoever.
Posted by: Jude | Apr 4, 2007 6:08:42 PM
One could have read his earlier comments and got the same "talking points". Absolutely no need for this "interview".
Posted by: Buddy | Apr 4, 2007 6:20:29 PM
Why is it that, effectively, conservatives such as Tony Aquiningoc above, seem to be only able to spout one angry message,which is that utterly discredited public servants such as Cheney deserve our continued support, and that it is those of us who disagree with Cheney, who somehow need to simply learn more about what is going on. To say that, in view of this admisnistration's perhaps unrpecedented obfuscation, deceit and cynicism, is abslutely precious. Willfully ignorant, but precious.
Posted by: mbl | Apr 4, 2007 7:00:37 PM
Clearly, all of you 'blame America first' folks never have and never will have anything decent to say about Mr. Cheney. Complain, whine, blame all you want. He and George W. have the guts to stand by their overall guiding principles that our country IS at war now and we have a choice to make. Either we fight those who would kill all of us if and when they get the chance over 'there,' (wherever it is necessary to do so) OR wait... and fight them here. You're also so naive to think that ANY new administration is going to abandon that thinking and make us all proud again... HA! Wake up! Bush and Cheney are doing their job, and ANY next administration will quickly learn THEY have to do that job too! It's VERY easy to stand on the outside and complain and criticize. It's quite another to have ALL the responsibility yourself! You whiners will spend the rest of your life looking for who to blame for everything you don't like. It won't matter who the President OR the VP is.
Posted by: Tim | Apr 4, 2007 8:06:16 PM
Let's take a look in history and let me know which party was in office during WW1, WW2, Korean War, and Vietnam? Looks to me the dems love war more than the repubs.
Posted by: johnc | Apr 4, 2007 9:34:09 PM
Glad we have a democratic congress to keep checks and balances on 'ol Bush/Cheney.
I hope everyone is outraged at the media for pushing only the story about Pelosi going to Syria (i.e. not the Republican party). The media consistently proves its bias. This is obvious even to the prez wanna be's.
Posted by: Matt | Apr 4, 2007 10:29:01 PM
I am surprised how much Cheney is hated(telling lies and more lies)from your comments. What happened to "honesty and integraty" ?preached by good Republicans "Ike and Reagan" surely a few left...as a Republican hope they step up and be counted... Pelosi did good talking to Syria better than ignoring a country next to Iraq.
Posted by: Sam Bee | Apr 5, 2007 2:42:52 AM
Bush-Cheney in 2008, too bad darn it
Posted by: george W | Apr 5, 2007 7:44:37 AM
ICK CHENEY'S RUINING THE COUNTRY and OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS. It's such a disgrace to see the VP has been cursed by so many of its own people. US image is down to the toilet with cronies like Cheney, Rove. He made a mess with haliburton and another mess in Iraq. It's a NATIONAL shame to have soemone like him nothing but a corporate prostitute with no credibility whatsoever.
Posted by: yamamoto | Apr 5, 2007 4:23:42 PM
That's just terrible that the Republicans are crying stop, stop don't talk bad about our nice Vice President. But when our last President was getting a little nooky they were screaming like we were going to war with Iraq or something! At least our kids weren't dying everyday. Now it's the war mongers turn to feel the heat! Who cares about that clown Chaney? He has more money than all his cigarettes combined! Start listening to the people Chaney and get out of that bunker Das Moenster!
Posted by: Russ | Apr 5, 2007 5:32:05 PM
Cheney is just awful. Truly and resoundingly awful. How can he say any of this with a straight face? He and Bush are the cause of the horrible mess we're in over in Iraq. Cheney pushed for this war like nobody has ever pushed for a war before in our history, and he got his war. Now he want's to turn the tables and make those who want to stop it seem "political" in their drive? That's a joke. Democrats are trying to clean up his and Bush's idiotic mess, which is why the public voted them into power in November.
Posted by: Josh | Apr 6, 2007 2:55:51 AM
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