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July 26, 2007 11:21 AM

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: Sen. Barack Obama lobbed another verbal grenade at Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday, continuing a feud that first erupted at Monday night's Democratic presidential debate.

In a conference call with reporters, Obama said Clinton would continue the "Bush doctrine" of only speaking to leaders of rogue nations if they first meet conditions laid out by the United States. He went on to suggest that being "trapped by a lot of received wisdom" led members of Congress -- including Clinton -- to authorize the war in Iraq.

"The Bush administration's policy is to say that he will not talk with these countries unless they meet various preconditions -- that's their explicit policy, and that was the question that was posed at the debate," Obama said. "This is the assertion that she made during the debate and subsequently, was that she would not meet with various leaders unless certain preconditions were met. Now, if that's not what she means, then she should say so, but that was the question that was posed at the debate."

Obama added that he believes the U.S. needs the fresh perspective that he would bring to the Oval Office, one that would welcome conversations with all foreign leaders "to talk about our ideals, our values, and our interests."

"What’s been interesting about this debate over diplomacy," he added, "is I really think it's the debate over the same conventional thinking that led people to authorize the war in Iraq without asking questions, versus an approach to foreign policy that asks questions, is informed by a knowledge, a perspective on cultures like those in Iraq, and is not trapped by a lot of received wisdom."

The Clinton campaign did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Clinton has sharply criticized Obama for committing to meetings with the leaders of countries that are often hostile to U.S. interests, saying on Tuesday that such statements were "irresponsible and frankly naive" because such a stance could lead to a president being used for "propaganda" purposes.

The exchange at the debate centered on a question about whether the candidates for president would be willing to meet, within their first year in office, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.

Obama quickly said yes, while Clinton said no, arguing that the president should only meet with world leaders who are hostile to the US after lower-level diplomatic contacts are conducted. Obama has said in the aftermath of the debate that he never meant to suggest that he would meet with foreign leaders without first having aides make sure such such meetings would be worthwhile.

Though Clinton was the first to go on the attack after the debate, the Obama camp has been far more aggressive in the aftermath in keeping the story alive. As of mid-day Thursday, Clinton still hadn't expanded on her initial comments, made to an Iowa newspaper, the Quad City Times.

Thursday's conference call -- ostensibly held to discuss his endorsement by Rep. Paul Hodes, D-N.H. -- also showed a flash of Obama's greenness. Obama appeared not to know what year Hodes was elected to Congress; he said Hodes "overcame predictions that he couldn't beat an incumbent several years ago," when in fact Hodes lost his first congressional race, in 2004, and only won his seat in last year's Democratic wave.

Later in the call, when Hodes jumped in to reiterate a point Obama was making, Obama cut him off: "I'm sorry, who’s this?" Obama said. Hodes responded, "This is Paul Hodes -- Congressman Hodes."

Obama's comments were considerably sharper than they've been in the past in regard to the 2002 war-authorization vote.

Obama, who said while running for the Senate that he opposed the war, was careful in an interview as recently as last fall to not criticize Clinton for her vote.

"I'm always careful to say that I was not in the Senate, so perhaps the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was that I didn't have the benefit of U.S. intelligence," he told The New Yorker in October. "We were in different circumstances at that time: I was running for the U.S. Senate, she had to take a vote, and casting votes is always a difficult test."

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Hillary is exactly like Bush. On political reflex she voted to authorize a suit of clothes to take us to war and on political reflex she now is in favor of bringing the troops home. Obama still hasn`t proven himself ready for prime time, but he may and so may others of the Democratic candidates. The question was, would he be willing. He said yes. Not yes under any circumstances. Hillary said no, based on the same Bush excuse that he could not protect himself from being used politically by foreign leaders, which unfortunately is also true. Too bad Hillary, like Bush, appears to lack self-confidence to meet foreign leaders one-on-one.

Posted by: A Viet Nam Vet | Jul 27, 2007 12:05:03 PM

If you want Bush/Cheney results, continue Bush/Cheney policies. It is a good idea to talk to world leaders that are in opposition to you as well as those you agree with. If you only hear from people that agree with you, you tend to forget that there can be two or more sides to every story. Obama really does have the right idea here, and it seems Clinton would continue the Bush policy of shunning adversaries and wind up with more of the Bush results.

Posted by: Dave | Jul 27, 2007 12:53:18 PM

Innocence Bullies Experience. Obama's camp accusing Clinton of perpetuating the status quo isn't winning him points for sophisticated thinkers. It's fine to jump on a 'lump-all-the-old-ideas-together' bandwagon, but it has to stand up to wisdom, received or otherwise. Hillary articulated her position as one of strength, and if Obama fails to see how it's 180 degrees different from the Bush/Cheney "strategy," then he needs to focus on the centrist democratic position articulated by many, many dems well-versed in diplomacy and world events. It's evident he's just trying to get media attention for his "fresh approach" but it's making him sound like a knee-jerk liberal who doesn't understand how strategy takes multiple layers of government working together under a common vision. He's taking this whole exchange too personally rather than seeing it as a statement about the organziation he would be leading. Another situation where the rebellious teenager demands freedoms but has no sense of responsibliities entailed therein. I thought he could make a strong POTUS right now, but this public 'exchange' reveals he's not ready yet.

Posted by: John D K | Jul 27, 2007 2:20:25 PM

Its funny that no one realizes that neither Hillary or Obama will do ANYTHING without prior approval from their advisors. Obviously, the Obama camp thinks they have an issue they can exploit. Hillary's camp is keeping mostly silent on this issue, hoping it will go away, or the other side will put their foot in their mouth.

The fact that ANYONE is seriously considering voting for Hillary Clinton, whether in a primary or general election, scares me to no end. Do you honestly think she will do anything but run this country further into the ground?

Educate yourself on Hillary's past. As much as her advisors want to whitewash and dismiss her and her husband's previous behavior, it is the best indication of her future performance....

Posted by: wytshus | Jul 27, 2007 4:10:56 PM

Obviousley Mrs Clinton feels very intimidated and defensive against Mr Obama, in which lead her to initially make the negative comment saying Mr Obama was "niave & irresponsible". The more we (US) feels we are better than the rest of the world and have a Bush policy not to atleast talk to these leaders will only increase risk of national/international security as well being a malfactor to our economy as a result. I am very much a fan of Mrs Clinton but I don't think she is built to be our a US leader. she would and possibly "could" make a decent VP but we the people have to much at stake to continue the same traditions the Bush Admin has covered themselves into as all pigs do.

Posted by: IowaView | Jul 27, 2007 4:56:19 PM


Hi,

Hillary can not win Republican's party with same Bush -Bill Clinton politics, this time is critical moment for US we need new ideas to convince the World. She has been long in the politic , it is time to turn the page Bush-Bill-Hillary Clinton,close the chapter for old views,we wanna travel around the world in peace.

Posted by: Alain | Jul 27, 2007 6:40:59 PM

I really liked Obama until he started talking. Same old slamming we've heard for the past 2 elections. It's getting old now. I just want to hear a candidate come out and said what he is for, not who he is against.

Posted by: Ron | Jul 31, 2007 8:43:52 PM

THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM HERE IS, "Why are we all talking about this as if it is a 2 horse race? Why are we so focused on just these 2 candidates?". Very simple! Because the mainstream media & corporate polls have manipulated us into having this very discussion. How many times have you seen this question in the polls? "Who do you like? Clinton or Obama?" The question precludes from our consciousnesses any other contenders some of whom might actually do something really good for this country & the world. It's good for the corporations whoever is nominated from these 2. Obama can't win, so that would guarantee a Republican President, Clinton will be more of the same, but w/ a smile. If we don't start really being awake about this it's all over!
Of course Clinton is pulling away in polls. She's the Corporate Choice; she's met w/ Murdoch & the rest & done her deals, just the way Blair did in UK before he won. He too was the Corporate Choice! After Thatcher had bled the UK dry he was the more acceptable face of the kingmakers & the electorate did what was expected of them, they chose bad over disastrous; now the Neocons have bled this nation dry & in just the same way, w/ the help of the media, even Clinton looks preferable. Let's start talking about why we have become focused on a 2 horse race!!!! Ask Gallup & the rest why they're doing it, let them know we're on to it, write about it, support the handful of candidates that might really change something!!! Let's hear more of you so-called savvy pundits & bloggers writing about this instead of being sucked into the same scam. Come on guys, it's an old, old trick. Help us get past it.

Posted by: new rider | Aug 7, 2007 1:14:14 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/obama-clinton-w.html
ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: Sen. Barack Obama lobbed another verbal grenade at Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday, continuing a feud that first erupted at Monday night's Democratic presidential debate.

In a conference call with reporters, Obama said Clinton would continue the "Bush doctrine" of only speaking to leaders of rogue nations if they first meet conditions laid out by the United States
ABC report from July 2007.
OBAMA IS CLUELESS ABOUT THE BUSH DOCTRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
speaking to leaders of rogue nations????

Posted by: geevill | Sep 12, 2008 9:56:44 AM

Apparently, Charlie "Lookin' for Peer Approval" Gibson does not agree w/ Barack "Barry Soetoro" Obama's interpretation of the "Bush Doctorine" either. Way to do your homework, Charlie. I hope you get the pat on the back (you've been hoping for) the next time your at a lib cocktail party.

Posted by: Brandon | Sep 12, 2008 4:04:16 PM

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