Well,well, well, what did John Edwards say about the war on terror a few months ago? He said it was nothing more than a bumper sticker; a slogan. He was pounded in the press for saying it. Now we have a staunch conservative republican saying the same thing. I wonder if the Press will vindicate Edwards? Probably not. They are just trying to knock him out of the race so they can hand pick the next president.

Wow, this guy actually said something that was worthy. Well, as one of the original architects of the new conservative movement that created the worthless imbecile that we currently have in the white house, I take his speech as damage control. They have to finially realize the attaching themselves to someone who has a 22% approval rating isn't very smart for the long term future of the conservative movement.

I agree wtih Cliff Jones. The US Press will pick the next president. As they have for the past 30 years and will continue to do until the US Population frees itself from their TV sets and starts to think for themselves.

That president will not be Gingrich or Edwards. The press has already picked Hillary.

THe whole GWB war on terror was an attempt to minipulate the electorate. They were less concerned about winning aginist AQ and focues on exploiating the situation for politcal gain.

We need a manhattan style project to become energy independent and not have to rely on middle east oil.(if possible)

I can sympathesize with others about their frustration on the war on terror. I am personally grateful on the one hand that we've not had any more attacks in this country. But, I feel that we've come to a stalemate on the war. We're more interested in PR and political correctness than really doing something effective. I feel that if we tried a little harder, we can find out where the coward-in-hinding OBL is. But we're trying to be too "sensitive." If Mr. Gingrich has an idea about how we do what he says, then please step up and suggest it. Anyone can criticize, but only a few can lead. If he or any other candidate is afraid that their idea gets scooped. Guess what? It's for a good cause.

I agree with ARG about a "Manhattan Project" for energy independence. But the truth is, oil has the highest energy per volume than anything we can produce from vegetation. Oil costs the least amount to process to fuel than plants to ethanol to fuel. Those are just hurdles. We need to work on the hurdles as much as we can. Then we can tell the Arabs, the Chavezes, and the other sleezeballs that cheat us. I myself can't wait for that to happen. But in the short term, we have to maximize our resources, which is the drill in ANWR, develop offshore drilling, and then for the long-term, develop alternative sources of energy.

Re: Cliff Jones.

You are correct! What Gingrich has said is completely true. Where are you bush supporters? If this comment had been made by some Democrat... the bush supporters would be all over the place. The truth is that bush has used fear to control the people. And its sad that Americans fear everything and politicians know that and use it for they advantage.

This ABC News article conveniently truncates what Gingrinch really thinks. He thinks 'war on terror' is a politically correct uphenisem, and that we are at war with fundemental, irreconciable Islamic facism. So all the Libs here patting yourself on the back saying 'I told you so' just don't quite get it. And water is wet.

They have to finially realize the attaching themselves to someone who has a 22% approval rating" Who would that be, Cliff? You aren't a liar, are you? Do you have a link or are you just a liar?

22% approval rating" I'm sure he came across it in some poll somewhere months ago and now passes it off as current fact. Liberal are like that. They never saw a lie they wouldn't put forward if they thought it helped them politically.

Pretty sad that whoever wrote this article that is posted on this "news" web site has so little knowledge of, much less a grasp of, history that they missed the "Phoney War" allusion that Gingrich was making.

For the author's benefit, I have included a brief blurb on the subject ... I chose Wikipedia so the ABC guy will feel at home and not be overwhelmed.

"The Phoney War[1] was a phase in early World War II marked by few military operations in Continental Europe, in the months following the German invasion of Poland and preceding the Battle of France. Although the great powers of Europe had declared war on one another, neither side had yet committed to launching a significant attack, and there was relatively little fighting on the ground.

While most of the German army was fighting against Poland, a much smaller German force manned the Siegfried Line, their fortified defensive line along the French border. At the Maginot Line on the other side of the border, British and French troops stood facing them, but there were only some local, minor skirmishes. The British Royal Air Force dropped propaganda leaflets on Germany and the first Canadian troops stepped ashore in Britain, while western Europe was in a strange calm for seven months. "

Whereas the ABC article suggests that Gingrich was saying that the war on terror was "phony", he was not suggesting that it is a war that is fake and does not need to be fought like Edwards suggests. Rather, he is comparing it to the beginning months of WWI - when the Allies ha declared war on the Axis - but were not actually fighting them.

Bill above may be right about oil being the cheapist and easiest to produce but one of these days - sooner rather than later - we will run out of oil. Even if we begin a Manhatten Project for becoming energy independent today it will take some time to become truely energy independent from the Middle East. For once I agree with Newt Gingerich on something.

So now even the Keebler elf gets it?

The press may pick the nect prez for those who don't think already--they did with Reagan, Clinton, the bushes and look where that got us--but they don't for me.

Kid Charlemagne, you are right! If we don't stop wasting energy with gas guzzlers (go for hydrogen insetad) and unsufficiently insulted homes then we will always be the prisoners/slaves of the Saudies. For once Newt said something intelligent!

So now even the Keebler elf gets it?"

I'm afraid the 'it' part has gone right over your head, Kidd. Please tell us you don't vote...

I think Newt now like always has been a great man we may not always have liked what he has said but he has ALWAYS put it straight ALWAYS sometimes in direct defiance "AS NOW" where the Bear **** in the woods he has my respect and i think Newt and Ron Paul should team up two straight talkers a most powerful thing

I agree with Gingrich on “answer non-questions” we are not addressing our national most important issues as to industrial revolution into the new era of sustainable resources, and environmental protection; on the war on terror, he is wrong, we are not shadow boxing, we have not found the military or political and social solution either, but nether had any other experiment of kingdom or government over the past thousand of years. I stand by the troops and president Bush on this matter.

There is war going on,of course there is one. Mr Gingrich is as lost as Mr Edwards is. They are out of touch period. Finding new ways to save energy?? Get rid of those dam cars you have at your house and have one instead having one per person and yes that includes your dog too. We are comsuming oil at a great rate and more than the entire world combine. Bio fuels?? lol what a joke, How much corn can we produce to fill the monstruous demand we have ??...As far as I can see most american home have a gas gustler SUV, pick up truck or a roadster. We are just a bunch of hipocrates period. Yeah We know tobacco causes cancer but we smoke em...Bottom line is easier to point finger in the comfort of your home than move a hinny and do something about it period!

djconklin: You might be right about going to hydrogen. How do we get there? I agree that the oil supply has a limited supply, which is why it can only be useful for the short-term. For the mid-term, we have the largest reserves of coal. How can we convert coal to liquids? I would be among the first to be rid of the Arabs and Muslims.

The War on Terror is fake. The Media benefit from they hype when they say Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Bush benefits when invokes the bogeyman to scare you because he now wants to protect you. Minor radicals co-opt the Al Qaeda brand to get famous. The Al Qaeda publicity arm benefits by taking responsibility whenever a bomb goes off anywhere.
Al Qaeda, as a group, has always been very small. The 9/11 hijackers were a low-tech group of thugs who were able to circumvent National Security because the government ignored all the warning signs.

Posted by: Strelinkov | Aug 4, 2007 2:58:19 PM

Do have proof that Newt meant to say that. Please provide.

Isn't what they said during the 70's? Drill now and develop future technologies. I think the high gas prices are the only way for alternative energies to get adequate funding for development.

Gingrich is the smartest man in American politics today, If you don't believe it - listen to him for more than 30 seconds, then you will agree. Every time this man speaks he is full of ideas, he brings solutions to tough problems, and he brings dialog to the problems that need to be worked out and he does it without hate and animosity. I hope he runs - he is exactly the person we need in the highest office.

American Joe: You're right! In fact, I remembered that in the 1970s when oil price spiked, there was all kinds of talks about alterntative fuels. One of the thing that was popular to research was to liquify coal. All of that went by the wayside when oil price fell to less than $20/barrel. The wisdom was that it could never be cost effective until oil increased beyond $35/barrel. I can't remember the last time when oil was less than $35/barrel!! There is a serious effort to get moving on alternative fuels, but frankly folks; it won't work for the long run because is costs too much energy to produce ethanol. There has to be a different approach, a different fuel.

My current choice - a Democrat - continues to be villafied by the press and cable. They don't wan't someone who can think for himself. They don't wan't anyone who is not beholden to the 'back room millionaires'. With the things Geingrich is now saying, he is opening my eyes. Newt, I'm a Democrat who could vote for you.

I disagree with Newt only on one
major point - we cannot be beat
militarily. But we can be beat
in this Iraq War politically and
economically. A few years back
OBL even said so in one of his
taped messages. So, politically
and economically, in a real sense,
we are losing.

We simply have to take a few steps
back and fight this war on terror
in a different sane way. And not on
Al Queda's terms.

I like Gingrich always have. I may have not agreed with some things he's said or done for that matter but UNLIKE most of washington he is VERY straight foreward to the point of being scary and bullish. Good Combination Ron Paul and Newt ... But truth tellers Both Strong and not afraid of the system

We are losing a lot of battles since this creap has become President. He would not know the truth if it came up and hit him the face.
Look all this money that is given to people that don't deserve it.
There is all kinds of terror even in your own neighborhood but no wants to notice that.
If the Americans knew the whole story about everything I would hate to hear
about how many people would take their lives.
This President is drunk don't forget that so their memory is not so good.

Man ... you guys need to wake up.
The root cause of global warming and war is Dick Chenney and his Oil Company lobbyist and GM and Insurance company.
The energy independance ? Please watch the movie or youtube on "Who Killed The Electric Car."

When are you going to get it through your heads? The reason thatthe troops are over there is to keep the terrorists from coming over here and leveling our cities. Is that what you want? Not everyone is against this war. Meanwhile, here at home, people should be getting back to their churches and back to their faiths and pray for our President and all the leaders of this country and other countries.

governator: Here is something to 'chomp' on: The ICE/BP predict there is something in the order of 2,000 terrorists residing among the illegal alien population of the United States. Given that 'they' have promised us a 'dirty' bomb, I would be living in extreme fear if I were within fifty miles of any of their targets. The list is quite extensive. The problem is that we are not fighting them HERE which is exactly what they want. If we were to take Usama, they would retaliate. Simple logic. As to the flow of oil, GO SOLAR. Simple, take out the 'middleman' and we would have almost limitless energy. At one time, a survey was done and it was discovered that covering Pima and Pinal counties in Arizona (which were mostly undeveloped at that time) would provide enough energy to power the entire country. I doubt that is true today, but throw in a few more counties and we could have the power problem solved.

Funny how demorats are too busy attacking Bush as if he is on the ballot in 08. Gulianni/Gingrich w00t.

GASP! SHOCK! Uhhhh. CAN'T SPEAK!!! I can't believe Newt Gingrich, of all people, has finally admitted the truth. I commend him for his bravery. It will take a nation of Gingrich's to reverse the awe inspiring damage the neo-conservative movement has done to our great country over the past 7 years.

hmmm...phony war on terror...energy independence...sounds like Al Gore-speak...

this from the same man who was cheering on the sidelines during the run-up to the war...

if he was a democrat, he'd be accused of being a flip-flopper (i.e. John Kerry)...

How about a Ron Paul(Pres) and Gingrich(VP) ticket?? That might be of interest.

hmmmmm.interesting comments that actually do have some merit,but....doesn't sound like newt to me!

It's have to believe ole Newt said that, although it is true. I guess he's just trying to put some distance between him and georgie boy. I've got to run over and see if fox covered this story!

Well, just as I thought, not one word from fox, I guess this is another one Rupert wouldn't let the read print or talk about.

"djconklin: You might be right about going to hydrogen. How do we get there?"

Some say that we don't have the infrastructure for it--well how much of an iunfrastructure was around when Ford was cranking out automobiles? As for the hydrogen itself, we take human waste run it into tanks, collect the methane and burn to to supply the electrolysis to the liquid waste to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen--two problems solved at one time.

I can't believe any American making less than 250k a year would vote republican. As for the democrats, the only time they look good is when they are compared to republicans. Newt Gingrich is a disturbed little troll. Until the republicans chose Reagan and then Bush the younger, I never would have thought they could be taken in by such obvious morons. But now, I wouldn't be surprised if the repubs were persuaded to elect Charles Manson for President. Seriously, after the thugs they've elected twice in the name of Jesus, who knows what they're capable of?

it sucks that the media is picking Hillary for President ~ why dont we just name 'the media' our next President. President Newscorp, or President CNN. Why not? its almost that way right now.

Ok this so called leader of the free world is a lier and he knew he was lieing when he scarred the public about saddam. That guy was never a threat to us, we had no fly zones and navies including ours patrolling the persian gulf. Our Aegis ships can see into other countries, we can watch convoys and aircraft taking off. We have aircraft code named STARS which can do the same thing. This president said he would punish traitors, but what does he do, he doesnt even let Libby even go to jain, he knew if he did that traitor would have implicated other traitors to our country like Rove and Cheney and possibly the biggest lier in History. Bush is really good a killing people, he put more people to death as gov of Texas than anyone in history. He had over 50 warnings about an attack on our country and he doesn't do anything about it. He lied to us about the wire tapping and about us using torture. He has used executive privalage more than anyone in history. He used fox and am radio stations to fool everyone stating that he was a man of God. That Bull, he doesn't go to church, he loves to ride his bike, he never even belonged to a congration until recently because the news came out. Blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism. This congress has nothing to do with the current crisis in our country. The gov vetoed a bill just recently that would have paid for bridges an roads, but because they were going to increase the gas tax, he vetoed it. You never cut taxes in a time of war, states are not able to collect as much taxes because the wealthy aren't getting taxed. Bush uses fear and hate to get his bullcrap message out, if everyone would read the newspapers and check out other sources than our socalled news media, the country would truly be upset at this out of control administration. Wake up America, vote for Ron Paul!!!

"Governator, Hello from the Republic of Korea. Taking you as an example, The Bush administration has placed the "FEAR FACTOR" into the hearts and ninds of a lot of Americans. Don't be too concerned about Terrorists leveling American cities. In fact, the present administration likes to make you believe there's a boogie-man on every corner. The Bush administration uses the "terrorist" card to try and justify useless organizations like Homeland Security. The biggest problems the United States has is drugs, crime, lack of education, gangs, out-sourcing American jobs, layers and layers of un-needed government bureaucrats and being overly-involved overseas. I wouldn't be surprised if all bridges in the United States, fell in. The Bush administration has ignored the real problems while wasting American Dollars overseas. In fact, the United States, is in the biggest MESS I ever saw in my lifetime."

Pointman #1
Seoul, Republic of Korea

So... I am now awaiting for pigs to begin flying ... Newt actually is not toe-in-lining with the GOP.... The times they are a changing....

Why do the republicans hate our troops? Gingrich ought to know that he is undermining our troops morale by suggesting that they are fighting for nothing.

Nice to see Newt agrees with Ron Paul, the only Republican candidate that can beat Hillary.

Who really cares what Newt Gingrich thinks about ANYTHING??????

Re: dashdot,
Thats what was being said when I went to Vietnam in 1969 as an 18 year old.We have to fight the communist there so we don't fight them here. It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

Newt is a lap dog.He serves one person himself and maybe ? FredT.

tim long, bet you didn't know that accorning to the dod, two days before mission accomplished, the so-called "champion" of the troops, george w., undermined them by giving in to osama's demands of removing troops from saudi arabia. do your research befroe you open your mouth.

If you can talk the talk Gingrich, can you walk the walk and bring our troops home?

While it may or may not be true that Gingrich was alluding to the "Phoney War" phase of WWII, the analogy is irrelevant. This is not a case of two adversaries sitting around sizing each other up after an invasion. In fact , in terms of Iraq, a better analogy would be Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union. He, like the President and the Pentagon, thought the war would all be over in a matter of months. The whole War on Teror is stymied by this idiotic neo-con mentality. The stupidity of the actions of this administration would be completely laughable if it wasn't so tragic. Whatever good feelings there was toward this country after 9/11 were completely squandered by a bunch of hubris-ridden strategists who thought we could just go into a society as complex as Iraq and create a democratic beacon in a few years.

You guys are blind to the real cause of most of this country;s problems. Israel is the worst thing that has happened to the world and those media selected guys in office are supporting Israel at any cost to the American people. Israel is a liability to the U.S and the American people never put their foot down against the dumb leaders in office who are after lust, position, and money.

Do something America.

If, and I repeat if, you want to win the war on terror, you first must get control of the borders to allow only vetted persons in. Then you have to know that every person in the country is of a like mind and is working for the best interest of the country and is loyal to the county. Only then will you have a solid base from which you can go out into the world and gain control of others.
As it is, we’re standing on mud created by the politicians, splintered into little groups that can be used for sound bites. The current rhetoric is strictly about the war on terror is nothing more than rhetoric.
I agree with Gingrich’s statements but question his motives. Why has he waited this long? Is this part of his election bid? How does he intent to move the body politic to something other than sound bites? How will his energy policy be anything but business as usual and if not, how does he think he can get it passed?

I believe that what most people fail to realize that there is a HUGE difference between the lockstep (with the president) congressmen which is also the Republican Party leadership and the General Republican voter.

Voting on strict party lines with the spin of Foxnew behind them can the Republicans the illusion of being the only one's who are right in Washington. But after a while, it wear thin even with the Republican voters (especially the Religious Right) that it's increasingly obvious that they aren't right. Now being in lockstep with this president is becoming a liability to the Conservative Movement and republican voters are leaving the Republican party in droves. Newt is trying to provide damage control to the party, because without the voter, the Republican party is nothing.

It's nice to see anybody put Bush's "war on terror" in perspective.

This could qualify as one of those times the bigger the lie, the more people will accept it.

Bush started his own war and then proceeded to assume more power and independence than any previous executive. He and his party can paint any dissent or oppostion as "weak on terror". Americans sit idly by as Congress and the Executive strip away laws put into effect because of eavesdropping abuses from another Republican President.

Bush's war on terror was designed to protect him and his party, but it has damaged the rest of us.

Please, don't compare John Kerry.who
is just an eloquent C student with one
of the smartest politicians we have.
Go Newt!

The War On Terror is ridiculous and phoney as well, simply because nobody can declare a war against an ideology. You might be able to drop bombs on nations, even invade them, but you cannot stop people hating you and wishing to do you harm. The problem with the USA's stupid War On Terror is that the more the USA tries to fight this ideology, the worse it gets. On top of that, the pack of lies emanating from the White House about terror does not help the situation because the truth is there to see. For instance, there was no terrorist problem in Iraq prior to the USA's illegal invasion. Saddam Hussein hated Osama Bin Laden with a passion and would not tolerate Al Qaeda in Iraq. However the Americans shot themselves in the foot by deposing Saddam, because now Iraq is a major anti-US terrorist centre and nearly 4000 body bags shipped back to the USA proves it. The Americans created the terrorist problem in Iraq and no amount of spin will alter that. The only way Americans will stop people hating it and wanting to fly aircraft into buildings full of people is for the USA to stop interfering in the affairs of sovereign nations, stop plundering their resources, stop trying to depose their governments with highly illegal "regime change" tactics, stop trying to bully other nations into giving up their legal rights and activities - in other words, the terror will diminish and may stop altogether, when the USA starts minding its own business and keeps out of the affairs of other nations entirely.

Tim Long asks here - "Why do the republicans hate our troops? Gingrich ought to know that he is undermining our troops morale by suggesting that they are fighting for nothing." Tim, Gingrich is merely saying it how it is, telling some home truths. Would you prefer that Gingrich tells a pack of lies about the Iraq fiasco, like the spin-doctoring and rubbish emanating from the White House? There's nothing wrong with the truth and the truth is that the Iraq war cannot be won by the USA, therefore the US troops are fighting for nothing. The rules of warfare have changed. Small weak nations can be invaded and occupied, but as long as their populations are armed and hate the invaders, such as in Iraq, the invaders will be picked off until they are so demoralised by their continuing losses, that they will cut and run. Vietnam was a salutary lesson in this, but obviously the Americans are slow learners and need another lesson in Iraq. And that imbecile in the White House want to attack Iran now. That will make Iraq look like a picnic by comparison.

Perhaps Newt is trying to get thinking voters to understand that the whole point of politics and the vote is to better America, not better a party. Look at it this way - drop the standard party titles and call them the Gambinos and Genoveses and you could then rightly view them as two highly organized crime families that are stripping this country bare of not only revenue and jobs, but also your Liberty and self-determination.

If you care about the America of our founding fathers and the one you were taught to love as a child, you will start to evaluate candidates on their inclination to actually defend the constitution and your rights as Americans, not on their party affiliation.

Step away from the programming we’ve all been spoon fed to distract us from the real problems in America. Take some time to learn about where we are, where we’re going and why we’re on this fast-track away from the America we love and mistakenly call “Free”.

Do you think any of the media darling candidates you so dutifully accept as your candidate cares to inform you or save you from the true problems and treason that abounds in Washington. Call me a Kook, Freak or whatever you want, but call me after you educate yourself and understand that the bankers love war as a tool to increase debt and thus their revenues, and the mythical “War on Terror” was found to be the perfect tool - no end to the war, so no end to the debt; no real target, so no way to focus; easy to keep the population fearful - an occasional planted story of an alleged threat is enough to keep the manipulation going and strip freedom from the citizens who are too distracted by minutia to see that their freedom is actually hanging by a thread.

I hope some of you will begin to understand that party affiliation is meaningless unless one of those parties is actually concerned with bettering AMERICA. This former Bush supporter and staunch Republican has seen the light and is supporting Ron Paul, the only candidate in either party who is more than an empty suit, and perhaps the last hope in restoring the Republic.

I agree with Newt. But the media has picked their chosen one- Hilary. If we can only get people to turn off their TVs and decide for themselves who they will vote for!

Good to see Newt is actually using his head. I'm a progressive liberal and even I can admit that Gingrich is a brilliant man with some very impressive ideas for America's future.

I agree 100% and I am a democrate. We need to start making hydrogen even if we have to use solar panel windmills and horses to generate the electricity.
Then we tell the middle east countries iif you want food start using some of that oil money because you can't grow did da lee in that stuff you call sand.
America will once again be a very rich country because we sure can grow the food as long as we have a good supply of illegal's from mexico to pick it and weed it.

There will not be an election in 2008.

Newt Gingrich is one of the few Repubs that has the soul to admit what the whole world knows. This administration has taken America to an abyss no other administration would every dare. "Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread" should be the Bush administration's motto. Good for Newt! A Repub that can finally speak the truth!

Nice Liberal posts!

See! He said it to....what about John Edwards....Bush is bad...22%...Blah,Blah,Blah!

This is why you are not taken seriously! Whatever The Presidents approval rating is ....its higher than the Democrat Congress! You might also consider learning the word "context". It comes in handy before you start fuming to get this very important word figured out!

Everything about the Bush Administration is "PHONEY"

Newt's right that everything is phony, but isn't he the same family values champion who had an affair the same time that Clinton had Monica...and then told his wife he wanted a divorce while she was recovering in the hospital from cancer surgery? Yep, same Newt.

Unbelievable... Newt Gingrich says something intelligent. The primary reason we are still at war is because a war-time president has more power than a peacetime president. It was actually well-thought out.

I will agree on one thing.....we need to stop financing terror, by buying oil from Islamic countries.

"the war on terror" is a band aid for a never-ending wound.

Why is it never-ending? Because you people refuse to understand WHY. To accept "because they hate us for our way of life" is a godd*mn joke.

Tell me why the Colombian terrorist was given a pass by the United States recently...because he benefited the US. Tell me why Chiquita Banana recently paid a huge fine for financing terrorists in South America (you know, an American company?)...tell me why there are a number of US companies financing terrorists...to protect their assets.

Do you THINK for one moment, that the death and destruction these terror groups inflict on innocent people (although not AMERICAN people) is forgotten? Do you think it's just swept under the rug, and the rest of the world looks at America as a savior of the downtrodden?

AHAHAHAH yea, right. Let me throw you a bone...you're absolutely hopeless and clueless if you think this "war on terror" is valid. To not understand the world view, and see what's really going on outside your white-picket fence, with the SUV parked in the drive will bring more terrorist attacks. You simply cannot prevent what you don't fix at the source.

This doesn't excuse hatred, and violent acts against the US..but again, ask WHY are they happening. A poor Iraqi kid who doesn't know where America is on a map, only sees what America is doing to his country. Just like the helicopter with guns that Exxon bought for the dictator in Africa, THAT's what the world sees...and you wonder why they hate us.

Liberal are like that. They never saw a lie they wouldn't put forward if they thought it helped them politically.

"We know for a fact there are weapons there." - Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003

"WAR ON TERROR"???
This is the biggest lie ever told, by anyone. If we were fighting a war on terror, for the last six years, we would HAVE FOUND Osama bin Laden, by now. The last 4 or 5 years were on the war on Iraq - and that there was no reason to go there in the first place. GWB just wanted the power to show Saddam that he could blow him away. That's all. It's like the elephant fighting a fly!!! We had, and we still have no reason to be in Iraq, except get all our 'cash' money that is floating in Iraq, because of Saddam and his two sons. Nothing else. But what we(USA or GWB) have done is make a mess of the infrastructure of Iraq and a bloody mess of our influence and what was known to be the generosity of the American people. We have also damned the lives of more than 3600 personnel, our faithful army personnel, that have been killed, for absolutely NOTHING. We should at least get a lot of oil for the fact that we got rid of Saddam. We don't have that, and we don't have the good will of the Iraqis themselves. GWB has created the world's greatest mess, and has announced to the world that he is the BIGGEST LIAR of the Free World. What a mess this is!!! Innocent people, both Iraqis and Americans have given their lives to an UNHOLY WAR, an UNWARRANTED WAR, and SACRIFICE to a LIAR, The WORLD"S GREATEST LIAR and UNLEARNED person, who the world has now seen, not as ignorant, but foolish and unprepared. Unprepared even to the little task of saying a few words in terms of press conferences. He stumbles, mis-quotes, and mis pronounces anything and everything he says. A 4th grade student would put a statement or sentence that makes sense, but not GWB. He should have had Dan Quayle has his VP. That would have been the Laurel and Hardy of the 21st century!!!
Need I say more??????

The liberal dogs of course believe the press dribble. Read for yourself IN CONTEXT ...The third thing I want to talk about very briefly is the genuine danger of terrorism, in particular terrorists using weapons of mass destruction and weapons of mass murder, nuclear and biological weapons. And I want to suggest to you that right now we should be impaneling people to look seriously at a level of supervision that we would never dream of if it weren't for the scale of threat. Let me give you two examples.

When the British this summer arrested people who were planning to blow up ten airliners in one day, they arrested a couple who were going to use their six month old baby in order to hide the bomb as baby milk. Now, if I come to you tonight and say that there are people on the planet who hate you, and they are 15-25 year old males who are willing to die as long as they get to kill you, I've simply described the warrior culture which has been true historically for 6 or 7 thousand years But, if I come to you and say that there is a couple that hates you so much that they will kill their six month old baby in order to kill you, I am describing a level of ferocity, and a level of savagery beyond anything we have tried to deal with. And, what is truly frightening about the British experience is they are arresting British citizens, born in Britain, speaking English, who went to British schools, live in British housing, and have good jobs. This is a serious long term war, and it will inevitably lead us to want to know what is said in every suspect place in the country, that will lead us to learn how to close down every website that is dangerous, and it will lead us to a very severe approach to people who advocate the killing of Americans and advocate the use of nuclear or biological weapons. And, my prediction to you is that either before we lose a city, or if we are truly stupid, after we lose a city, we will adopt rules of engagement that use every technology we can find to break up their capacity to use the Internet, to break up their capacity to use free speech, and to go after people who want to kill us to stop them from recruiting people before they get to reach out and convince young people to destroy their lives while destroying us. This is a serious problem that will lead to a serious debate about the first amendment, but I think that the national security threat of losing an American city to a nuclear weapon, or losing several million Americans to a biological attack is so real that we need to pro actively, now, develop the appropriate rules of engagement. And, I further think that we should propose a Geneva convention for fighting terrorism which makes very clear that those who would fight outside the rules of law, those who would use weapons of mass destruct ion, and those who would target civilians are in fact subject to a totally different set of rules that allow us to protect civilization by defeating barbarism before it gains so much strength that it is truly horrendous. This is a sober topic, but I think it is a topic we need a national dialogue about , and we need to get ahead of the curve rather than wait until actually we lose a city which could literally happen within the next decade if we are unfortunate. This is a very sober description of the Islamic terrorist threat we are faced with. We are NOW at war with a culture that wants, not to take over our land, but to KILL us, all-non Muslims, esp. Americans and Britons, and eventually ELIMINATE WESTERN CIVILIZATION We must not put our heads in the sand and hope this is not true. It is true and we cannot allow it to happen. Please pass this on to everyone on your list. May be this is why Pres. Bush is so bull headed about the the War? Could it be so many people see Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan as the trees but miss seeing the Islamic Movement as the Forest? In a way I hope Bush is wrong but I am afraid he is right. GINGRICH

Chris i agree that sometimes getting info from the internet and phone lines can help get terroist or others trying to hurt the American people but it has to be done in a legal process under supervision of the courts. No president should have over power because they will abuse their power as seen with the Iragi war which has been done. It doesn't matter if a president is republican or a democrat even presidents need supervision. As for any canidate they will say what they think people want to hear so check their past and compare to what they say now then you will know who to vote for.

It's correct that he said.
Bush use fear to control de people.