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Biden to Iraqi pols: 'I Don't Know Who the Hell They Think They Are"
October 01, 2007 7:13 PM
ABC News' Brian Wheeler Reports: Joe Biden today responded to criticism of a resolution passed by the Senate last week that called for federalism in Iraq. During a conference call with reporters, Biden steadfastly denied that the resolution was aimed at breaking up Iraq, and said, "It is not partition, it is not foreign imposition, and it will not produce bloodshed and suffering in Iraq. It’s hard to imagine how more bloodshed and suffering in Iraq could exist."
Biden’s amendment, introduced with Sen. Sam Brownback R-KS, was passed by the Senate last week by a vote of 75-23. It was immediately criticized by a wide spectrum of Iraqi politicians as an attempt to split up the country, and on Friday Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told the AP: "It is an Iraqi affair dealing with Iraqis. Iraqis are eager for Iraq's unity. ... Dividing Iraq is a problem, and a decision like that would be a catastrophe."
Today Biden was heated about Maliki’s contention that the U.S. Senate should mind its own business: "For Maliki and Iraqi leaders to suggest we don’t have a right to express our opinion, I don’t know who the hell they think they are. We have a right. We’ve expended our blood and treasure in order to back their commitment to their constitution. That’s the deal."
On Saturday the U.S. embassy in Iraq issued a statement denouncing the resolution, saying "attempts to partition or divide Iraq by intimidation, force or other means into three separate states would produce extraordinary suffering and bloodshed. The United States has made clear our strong opposition to such attempts."
Biden said the embassy was doing the bidding of the White House, and of Ambassador Ryan Crocker Biden said, "He has no legitimate basis to say this is partition. He knows better."
Senators Biden and Brownback sent a letter to the White House today asking for a personal meeting with the President to discuss the resolution. In addition the letter asks the administration to "convene a conference for Iraqis to reach a comprehensive political settlement based on federalism. Far from calling for the break up of Iraq, as suggested by the statement from U.S. Embassy Baghdad on September 30, our proposal is the last best chance to prevent Iraq’s partition or fragmentation."
The resolution may be non-binding, but Biden’s putting on the full court press all the same.
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OMG..."the embassy was doing the bidding of the White House."
Of course it is, Biden you clown. The embassies and the State Department are part of the Executive branch. The Executive has primary responsibility and authority over Foreign policy!
Biden's partition would mean making the Shia part subservient to Iran, the Sunni part subservient to Syria and Saudi Arabia, and the Kurdish part subservient to Turkey. By the way, Iraqi civilian casualties are down significantly, because the Surge is working.
Who is Biden to impose this national disintegration on a people who THREE times braved real threat of torture and death to vote for an interim government, their own Constitution, and a formal government?!?!
Posted by: carl | Oct 2, 2007 9:24:56 AM
This issue would never have been on the table in the first place, if this nation hadn't been forced into the Iraq affairs by Bush. Just who do we think we are that we can force democracy on anyone, we can't want it for them. It's time we pulled our son's and daughter's out of there, go about mending our wound's, and get someone at the helm who can steer this nation from being the world's policeman. Barack Obama is the only one of the current candidates having the wisdom and overall knowledge of what good governance should be. Barack is listening and offering realistic proposals and solutions rather than rhetoric. While I admire Ron Paul and his constitutional stance, and of all the current Republican candidates, he is the one making the most sense, but he goes too far on some issues, wanting us to be returned to the Jeffersonian era. Barack espouses the same strong constitutional stance, but takes a more realistic approach fitting the nature of today's complicated world.
Posted by: GC | Oct 2, 2007 10:32:00 AM
you should all get over yourselves.
Biden's plan was backed by a large majority of the Senate for a reason: it's a good plan.
Yes the United States Senate knows more about what's going on in Iraq than you do--there are little things called classified reports, etc.
Joe Biden would make the best Commander in Chief of any candidate. Ron Paul can barely talk without his voice cracking, he's annoying.
Go Joe--Bring it Home & Bring Our Boys Home! (Without leaving chaos behind).
Posted by: John | Oct 2, 2007 10:35:39 AM
I like some of what Ron Paul says but the sad fact is that's he's simply too old. He looks feeble and as bad as it is, we need a man/woman up there who presents a strong face to the world. Even Bill was sort of wimpy/pudgy looking. I don't think any of our adversaries took him seriously. They grew in confidence as he just looked to home. We don't need that again.
Posted by: lovemall | Oct 2, 2007 11:08:45 AM
Al Maliki is nothing more than a clown and a puppet. Talk about silly, he thinks a non-binding Senate resolution is a threat to Iraqis but ignors Iraq`s occupation by his puppet masters in Washington. Someone needs to tell this idiot that 80% of his own people want an end to Bush`s occupation just like the vast majority of Americans. He might also be reminded that last November he told us that his army could take over the job of Iraqi security by June of `07. What a joke this guy is. History is going to have a hard time figuring out who is the worse leader, him or Bush.
Keep up the good work Senator Biden and the H*ll with those 20 some Republicans that voted against the American people.
Posted by: A Viet Nam Vet | Oct 2, 2007 11:19:37 AM
I think Biden's soft partitioning is a good and solid way to go with the country -- but what everyone is missing is that Maliki probably cares as much about the Iraqi's as Bush does -- it really is all about oil and the US dollar and as long as it remains as such Blackwater will be there to protect Bush's stake -- not the real US soldiers.
Posted by: Paulet | Oct 2, 2007 11:42:14 AM
Biden's plan makes sense. It will be the US foreign policy in the future. Maliki doesn't have the support of his parliament when he makes his statement. Biden does have the support of the Senate.
Posted by: Sean O'Brien | Oct 2, 2007 12:35:49 PM
id like to know who the hell he thinks he is,besides a jurk,
Posted by: rick | Oct 2, 2007 1:15:03 PM
I look through ABCNEWS coverage of the war, and find very little. Why is that, you ask? Maybe because if they did report something, it would have to be good news, and we can't do that, it would expose the Democrats for what they are. Let me (again) do the media's job for you:
• On Monday came news that U.S. military deaths in Iraq fell to 64 in September, the fourth straight drop since peaking at 121 in May and driving the toll to a 14-month low.
• Civilian deaths also have plunged, dropping by more than half from August to 884. Remember just six months ago all the talk of an Iraqi "civil war"? That seems to be fading.
• The just-ended holy month of Ramadan in Iraq was accompanied by a 40% drop in violence, even though al-Qaida had vowed to step up attacks.
• Speaking of al-Qaida, the terrorist group appears to be on the run, and possibly on the verge of collapse — despite making Iraq the center of its war for global hegemony and a new world order based on precepts of fundamentalist Islam.
• Military officials say U.S. troops have killed Abu Usama al-Tunisi, a Tunisian senior leader of al-Qaida in Iraq who was responsible for bringing foreign fighters into the country. Not surprisingly, the pace of foreign fighters entering Iraq has been more than halved from the average of 60 to 80 a month.
• Last month, 1,200 Iraqis waited patiently in line in Iraq's searing heat to sign up to fight al-Qaida. They will join an estimated 30,000 volunteers in the past six months — a clear sign the tide has turned in the battle for average Iraqis' hearts and minds.
• Finally, and lest you think it's all death and destruction, there's this: Five million Iraqi children returned to school last week, largely without incident, following their summer vacations.
Posted by: Retired_subsailor | Oct 2, 2007 2:00:32 PM
None of this, of course, is accidental. The surge of 28,500 new troops announced by President Bush last February, and put in place in mid-June by Gen. Petraeus, seems to have worked extraordinarily well. Al-Qaida, though still a potent foe capable of committing mass atrocities, has been backpedaling furiously.
"They are very broken up, very unable to mass, and conducting very isolated operations" is how Brig. Gen. Joseph Anderson described al-Qaida's situation in comments this week.
Things have gone so well, in fact, that leading Democratic contenders have stopped calling for a "timetable" for withdrawal and can't even promise they'll remove all the troops by 2013.
In short, the U.S. is — yes, we'll use the word —winning the war against al-Qaida. And not just in Iraq. In fact, the only way we won't win is if we do something very stupid — such as letting the overwhelmingly negative media convince us we can't do what we clearly are doing.
Posted by: Retired_subsailor | Oct 2, 2007 2:02:00 PM
Oh, and Senator Biden, when the French were instrumental in our winning our freedom in 1776, how well would we have taken the French Rulers telling us how to divide Federal vs State's rights? The left wants to think of this as an "occupation", and yet it is they, not the President, who want to dictate to the Iraqi government what WE say they will do!!
Posted by: Retired_subsailor | Oct 2, 2007 2:05:16 PM
"It was immediately criticized by a wide spectrum of Iraqi politicians as an attempt to split up the country."
Not just al-Maliki.
Yeah, really--just who are these Iraqi political leaders to speak in defense of their own country?! They were actually elected--unlike Saddam, Uday, and Qusay--whom the Western Left pine for openly.
Posted by: Greasy Joe | Oct 2, 2007 2:55:21 PM
The Biden-Gelb Plan is nothing more than a paper tiger and in the long run puts band-aids on the real problems in the Middle East. Do you really think that the political factions in Iraq are going to accept the Biden-Gelb Plan with open arms? Secondly, Bosnia-Herzegovina is not the Middle East in mind and spirit. The Biden-Gelb Plan only serves Biden's own presidential ambitions.
Posted by: threeriverscrossing | Oct 2, 2007 9:47:50 PM
"Treasure"
LOL
Posted by: paul | Oct 3, 2007 4:32:01 AM
Joe Biden's plan makes sense. The current plan set forth by the Bush Administration is a joke. Let's go into a country for no reason(o wait they have weapons of mass destruction dont they?) and install the type of government we want. A majority of the other candidates just want to pull out of Iraq and look the other way. This is very irresponsible of them because they are not able to see the Iraq that will be left behind. A political solution is what Iraq needs whether that be in the form of Biden's plan or any other that comes along the way and makes sense.
Posted by: Ant | Oct 6, 2007 8:51:14 PM
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