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Giuliani Talks Health care in "Chances"
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ABC News' Jan Simmonds reports: While still not on television with any paid advertisements, the Giuliani campaign continues to churn out radio spots.
Their latest, hitting the airwaves Monday in New Hampshire, is entitled "Chances."
In "Chances", Giuliani, in his own voice, describes his own struggle with prostate cancer as a way of keying off his healthcare plan.
"I had, uh, prostate cancer, five, six years ago," recalls Giuliani. "My chance of surviving prostate cancer and thank God I was cured of it, in the United States, 82%. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England, only 44% under socialized medicine."
Throughout the rest of the ad, Giuliani suggests that citizens should have more control over their choice of health care. Under the Giuliani health care proposal, each family in America would receive a $15,000 tax deduction or a $7,500 individual tax deduction so they can go out and buy their own health insurance.
Giuliani's theory is that if the health care consumer market is expanded to 50 or 60 million Americans, instead of one that is currently dominated by the government and employers, the cost of health insurance "will come down and the quality will come up."
The campaign is following up the radio ad with a direct mail message that reinforces their healthcare message.
The plan is without a mandate that would place the burden of cost on the federal government and is based on the principles of less government and lower taxes. It is the hope of the campaign that through Giuliani's health care proposal they will be able to win over a sizeable amount New Hampshire’s independents -- 40 percent of registered voters in New Hampshire voters list themselves as independent. Recent polls in New Hampshire have shown that independent list health care ranks as one of their most important issues.
October 28, 2007 in Thompson, Fred | Permalink | User Comments (4)
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What are the facts behind the Giuliani radio ad? I'm sorry but I just don't buy the 82-44% ratio of "success" surviving prostate cancer that he is touting.
I've seen an article (from the British medical journal "the Lancet") that cites two groups of American patients...one with aggressive prostate treatment and the other more "traditional" and this study reflects the numbers he mentions. But this isn't a comparison of actual mortality rates in the UK and the US.
Does anybody know if there are actual facts to back up Rudy's claims?
Even if there are stats to this effect, it is not clear this has anything to do with "socialized" medicine per se. The implication seems to be that having a government-run health service will automatically deliver poorer medicine. As an American who has lived almost two decades in the UK, I would most emphatically disagree with this assertion.
Posted by: calmnsense | Oct 29, 2007 1:28:46 PM
Guiliani is WAY off the mark on prostate cancer mortality, there is no difference between here and the UK. The mortality in the general population is 26 per 100,000 in the US, 28 per 100,000 in the UK. The 5-year mortality there is 74.4% for all comers, again not statistically different than in the US. The survival rate and mortality for BOTH countries is steadily improving, and the socialized medicine in the UK doesn't retard their progress on this disease.
There are lots of reasons that UK-style socialized medicine isn't a good fit in the USA, but if you want to look at results, the UK is either neck and neck or ahead of us in most measures. Take breast cancer screening for instance; the UK gets the same results in terms of early detection, but at half the cost per patient.
Let's keep the facts straight, Rudy.
Posted by: Dr. Scott Welker | Oct 30, 2007 2:11:59 AM
Looks like Rudy's been exposed all right: see the article "Rudy's fuzzy health care math" at left.
Fuzzy is putting it mildly, isn't it? Shouldn't someone be putting the heat on him for such bald-faced lying? Somebody make a video for the YouTube debate next month, please!
Posted by: calmnsense | Oct 30, 2007 1:25:28 PM
I'm so sick of lying Republicans getting a pass. The FauxNews watchers like being lied to but the rest of us have some self-respect. The press needs to bring this up to him again and again until he apologizes for knowingly misleading people. Truth still counts.
Posted by: Call Him Out | Oct 30, 2007 9:37:30 PM
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