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Pelosi Wavering on Armenian Resolution

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October 16, 2007 5:39 PM

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos Reports: According to Congressional and Bush administration sources, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is now unlikely to bring a resolution which would label the deaths of Armenians in a conflict more than 90 years ago as "genocide".

Pelosi, as recently as Sunday on "This Week", has repeatedly said she would call the controversial but nonbinding resolution for a vote despite the opposition of the Bush administration and warnings that it could damage U.S. relations with Turkey.

President Bush called Speaker Pelosi on Monday night and asked her to pull the bill. But Congressional sources say that Pelosi is telling House members that she will not bring the bill to the floor without majority support.

At least seven House members have withdrawn as co-sponsors of the bill and several more are expected to follow. Key Pelosi ally Rep. John Murtha, D-Penn., is also lobbying against a vote.

Key House members continue to canvass members but don't expect a vote this year.

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Trying to pass this resolution now, why? Because it's another way to make the war harder for our troops, when they are making progress, trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? There can be no other reason to re-hash a decades old issue now. And this is the latest example of why Democrats cannot be trusted with anything beyond those blunt scissors you used in kindergarten.

Posted by: Retired_subsailor | Oct 16, 2007 7:57:08 PM

She didn't get cold feet - she got caught. In any sane world, in other words, one where Dems could actually do something despicable enough that the media would not give them a pass on it, this would be the end of the Democrats' chances for the next election.

In today's America, run by the media for the convenience of Democrats, it will be quickly "forgotten".

Posted by: sherlock | Oct 16, 2007 7:57:36 PM

All of you would feel differently if it was your relatives - like mine - that died brutally at the hands of the Turks. Should we just forget the Holocaust too? The U.S. has every right to denounce it and make Turkey acknowledge exactly what it was - genocide.

Pelosi just gave in to political pressure. Shame on her and Bush.

Posted by: gridironchick | Oct 16, 2007 8:15:54 PM

Oh, this is got to hurt. She was probably sure that she could finally defeat the US in Iraq if she could only take out our supply line. It's a fairly effective tactic to destroy your enemy. She almost had defeated the US. If she doesn't capitulate, she still might be able to.

Posted by: TexBork | Oct 16, 2007 8:18:49 PM

Ms. Nancy (AIPAC) Pelosi is nothing but
incompetent house speaker and a loser.
Wish she would resign. She is worthless.

Posted by: Joe | Oct 16, 2007 8:52:23 PM

Idiotic move. She knew what Turkey's and her allies' responses will be. So what was she trying to accomplish?

Posted by: Aldel | Oct 16, 2007 9:20:50 PM

She attempted to negotiate a treaty with a foreign power which is a constitutional violation, now this. Pelosi is a loose cannon and getting very scary. I think she’s throwing authority around just for the heck of it. Even authority she doesn’t have!

Posted by: Royce | Oct 16, 2007 9:40:40 PM

pelosi is a grade a nitwit. I guess that 4 year degree in government from the little college was not quite enough. She better call her stooges and ask if it's okay to not trash the global oil market and middle east relations this week. What a moron.

Posted by: cheesetoppings69 | Oct 16, 2007 10:07:50 PM

Mama Pelosi has figured out that we would be jeopardizing our troops if she pushed a resolution condeming an action that happened 90 years ago by a country that no longer exists. How brilliant of her. I guess that just goes to show what kind of leader a woman can be.

Posted by: strangelove | Oct 16, 2007 10:13:37 PM

It seems Ms. Pelosi didn't have enough votes for blatant, open sedition and the sabotage of U.S. relations with our allies from the house floor. Who'd a' thunk a woman from San Francisco would become the pulse of America....

So the democrats will have to work to obtain more house and senate seats before they can adequately undermine us under the rule of law. No problem...their immigration program insures a democrat majority for at least a generation. Then they can rot the American soul most effectively. Man, these people suck.

Posted by: JDWjr | Oct 16, 2007 10:14:40 PM

Pelosi should decide not to continue with this issue. It is not important and is causing problems for Iraq Kurds. Otherwise, who would give a darn about what happened so long ago. There are too many more important matters to take care of - like undoing anything and everything Bush and republicans have done in the years they have screwed up the country.

Posted by: Vicki | Oct 16, 2007 10:25:09 PM

you tell 'em gridironchick...point well taken, although to be honest there is enough hate and bitterness to go around aplenty already so i cant really sanction or approve of your attitude or approach as i dont see how it ( placing official blame for a genocide/crime committed long ago) will make the world a better safer place today, in the long or short term. your way of thinking didnt help matters much after cambodia or rwanda or wounded knee either. the big problem is that your (and i suppose many others' as well) attitude really does nothing to heal and everything to keep sore wounds open.

anyone who would attempt to do even superficial research on the ottoman /armenian incident would come to the truth eventually anyhow, no matter who "officially" acknowledges or disavows what really did happen then, or if it even ever did happen for that matter.

i think holding grudges about things they cant undo/change is the human condition unfortunately . i guess its just our evolved nature to be wary and mindful of past bad/hurtful experiences but to even TRY to forgive and forget is a wonderfully uplifting and angst releasing alternative ,try it before you knock it.

and lastly for all you dem/pelosi haters , well ive got extra good news for you ,and you might want to make a note of this for your financial consultant(s) and tax advisor(s)...

GET READY FOR HILLARY (AND NANCY) TO RAISE YOUR RICH FATCAT TAX RATES TO THE #$#@$# TROPOSPHERE FOR THE NEXT 8 YEARS OR SO!! ;}

Posted by: bah | Oct 16, 2007 11:02:34 PM

Are we not supposed to mention moveon org - the laughable web site that your President stomped over when we, the AMERICAN VOTERS elected him? Did they thank you for all the money you sent in? ..wonder how much of that was spend on swimming pools and SUV's? LOL

Posted by: cheesetoppings69 | Oct 16, 2007 11:56:46 PM

and btw,for all of you that still dont understand how american politics really work,let me enlighten you.

this whole turkey issue is totally bipartisan with ms pelosi and the white house in unison ,albeit a very covert unison. but why is it happening just now,about 100 yrs later, you query?

ever hear of the "good cop" "bad cop" scenario?
its a ploy/method used to coerce and/or psychologically dominate someone (in this case a sovereign country), generally in order to get details/information or,in this case in particular, acquiescence.

theres also the "carrot" and "stick" approach where either incentives (carrot) or deterrences (stick) are offered to obtain the desired results/scenario.

see if that resolution/bill goes through and passes then turkey as a nation isnt shown in its best light internationally for the rest of "official" history, which they REALLY dont want (aka stick), thats nancys role here, the "bad cop" . BUT...if bushy and his peanut gallery(the good cops in this scenario) "appear" to stop said resolution (aka carrot), it then gives this administration much more sway with the turkish government , which is desperately needed right now with the pkk apparently carrying out separatist/terrorist ops against turkey from within iraq and the usa asking for and needing turkish military restraint.

this way turkey knows there is indeed a price to pay for any military incursions into iraq , (ie; binding house resolution on ww1 turkish genocide//aka stick) as opposed to the carrot approach (aka we give them lots of military/economic aid =$$) which is evidently much more palatable for them...

this "resolution" was and is going nowhere,(as planned) that is as long as turkey is our appreciative and helpful ally.

Posted by: bah | Oct 17, 2007 12:11:15 AM

Are you kidding me?? Who are we going to punish?? Those “responsible” have been dead for a couple of three GENERATIONS! If we are to “punish” Turkey, then why not go after the Japanese for their genocide of Chinese from 1937-1945; the Cambodians for the Killing Fields in the mid 1970’s; the Chinese for their many “reforms” where thousands were executed for their education or status in society (after 1948 when Mao was in power)?? Or, the Russians for Stalins’s many Purges from the 1930’s through his death in 1953?? Goodness, are we now proclaiming ourselves not only the world’s conscience but also the world’s Court?? And, how is this a punishment?? The only ones we will punish is our own servicemen (yes, the ones that put their trust in our government for a loose promise that if they risk their life, our government will support them!)

And, if Time is not a factor, why not go after the Catholics for Crusades? or the French, just because they are French! (couldn’t resist that one!) There is nobody alive today with living memory of what happened let alone eyewitnesses. It is definitely a shame it happened! We might have done more, but, we were heavily preoccupied in the Great War, a.k.a. WW1, where we experienced DIRECT consequences (i.e. Luistania). Hell, we are not even doing much for current genocide situations, i.e. Darfur.)

Please tell me how this will prevent future genocides!!

Posted by: mpreston | Oct 17, 2007 12:26:56 AM

Pretty disgusting if Pelosi abandons ship. Most of the neanderthals on this blog don't realize that the Armenian genocide is the only one that American officials dare not speak. You have to wonder why. Is it because genocide by ally is no genocide at all?

Congrats, liberals and progressives, you helped kill a genocide denial bill and have given free reign to the deniers.

Don't complain even once if Turkey commits atrocities against the Kurds in the coming years, because Turkey certainly has gotten the message tonight about what it means to be an ally.

Posted by: Dan Asta | Oct 17, 2007 1:30:03 AM

"Congrats, liberals and progressives, you helped kill a genocide denial bill and have given free reign to the deniers."

Really?? a "genocide denial bill"? Perhaps you should read (or re-read) HR106.

And, “deniers”?? I don't think that the people here are denying that the event happened. But, what is the benefit of passing this bill?? Really, is there one positive thing that will come out of it? But, there is definitely negative consequences…and servicemen will be the ones paying that immediate price. So, you who calls names (“Neanderthals”), you want to put our men in potential harms way? You would sacrifice those that have done nothing wrong? For what? The recognition that already exists from UN and Turkey (among others)? What does the US have to do with it?

This way of thinking that you espouse shows the nativity shared by Pelosi and others on the far Left. You show that you want something to the extent that you would harm our own people for.

Posted by: mpreston | Oct 17, 2007 3:23:10 AM

All Pelosi ever does is talk a big game to get her face on TV and then backdown like the wimp she is. The Dems need to get rid of the witch and put someone in power that has the "cookies" to do their job. It's evident Nasty Nancy doesn't.

Posted by: DK | Oct 17, 2007 4:07:27 AM

Pelosi, what are you trying to do, fix it so our troops can't get the supplys they need. Shame on you, surely you can do better then that.

Posted by: cpman1946 | Oct 17, 2007 5:07:23 AM

So should we all forget the jewish holycust.That it never happened.Turkey is just like a baby. Bush should be ashame.The oil prices up and unemployment high.I think americans should leave Iraq.

Posted by: mary | Oct 17, 2007 5:55:20 AM

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