Far be it from this Thompson supporter to come to Giuliani's defense but, socialized medicine is scary. Long lines, poor health care, and slow drug development is scary. Unfortunately, the liberals long for that nonsense.

What democrats want is for every man, woman, and child in the US to have access to ALL the health care they need. There are currently somewhere around 44 MILLION Americans that have no health insurance. As a result, they often get care either at an emergency room, or when they can afford to pay for it out of their own pocket. When the uninsured go to the emergency room, you and I pay, either through higher costs for care, through taxes, ro through higher insurance premiums.

Rudy is chuckling in that radio ad...guess the joke is on him.

Guiliani says he might not have survived "socialized medicine" in England. This shows his true colors. What about the poor kids who won't ever see a hospital? They will die before they get there. It is totally time for a change and Guiliani isn't part of it.

There's the bug-a-boo words again - socialized medicine. That really means government medicine, of course, and we already have that - Medicare. I participate for a premium of about $100 a month. Before my wife passed away her monthly premium for a not as good private plan was $900 - how come? I've also had an experience with the National Health Service in England a month or so ago. I went to the emergency room, then was admitted the next day, had minor surgery under anesthesia, kept overnight to make sure I was OK and then dismissed, all without a word about money. When I got home there was a bill for $3,000 which includes the emergency room, the hospital and all the doctors, probably 25% of the cost had it been with health care system. Besides that, the doctor always showed up on time and the tea lady comes around three times a day - would you like some tea, love? I'll trade our system for theirs any day.

The Canadian healthcare system is better than the US system by FAR. Long lines, etc. are pure mythology. How do I know this? I lived in Canada for 18 years. Since moving back to the US, I've learned that it's just easier to die than to expose myself to the corrupt US healthcare system in ANY way.

Guliani may have one more bullet left for his already damaged foot but he will never make it to the White House. They all play little games with the numbers and assume we're too slow to figure it out - heck, he probably couldn't figure it out if he didn't have staff telling him what it all means. The Republicans, as always, are only looking out for their rich cronies - to heck with the middle-income, hard working people. They don't need health care - just let them keep paying the bulk of our taxes. They can't make huge donations to our campaigns, so screw them.

Yawn.

The English have socialized medicine because their system actually employs doctors. The French just have government insurance with private doctors. Either one will cover everyone. Our system just makes the insurance companies rich and the taxpayers pay to insure their profits by taking the most costly group out of the private pool (the elderly thru Medicare) and we pay more per person for medical care than either of these countries. How long must the American taxpayer subsidize private profits at an exorbitant rate? Do you want socialism for the rich insurance companies or do you want sick people made well? Do you want administrators denying the sick coverage or do you want doctors to be paid for doing what is necessary to heal patients? Moan about socialism and socialized all you want - the guys in the corner offices in the tall towers are laughing all the way to the bank with your money, your employers money, and the governments money. Be a fool with your hard-earned cash! They'll gladly watch you die while denying you coverage.

As for Guiliani, he's already plundered so much money out of his previous positions he doesn't care what happens to you. He's covered with cash. He doesn't need insurance - he just needs to collect large cash donations for stopping you from getting insurance!

Look, debating the definition, or even the merits, of "socialized medicine" is kinda pointless. The US will never get it; we'll be lucky to get guaranteed insurance for poor children. What's interesting abut this story is how freely Giuliani lies -- except, of course, that it isn't called "lying" when you cite a fraudulent source. it's called "relying on faulty intelligence."

I am NO far right Bush lover and figured I'd throw that in before some of you guys attack me. Perhaps Lana above lived in an area that was doable on the wait time, but they do have issues in Canada with wait times. They also have a shortage of doctors and equipment. It's about quality of care going down hill and there is some truth to the fact that if you get cancer or something huge your odds more slim on survival than with our quality of care. Do not get me wrong - we need a fix. I'd prefer something not socialized.

I know, I love the fact that we don't have long lines in America. Why, just a few months ago I wanted to schedule a doctor's appointment. A couple months' wait. I wanted a dentist's appointment. I scheduled it in December and the appointment was in April. Thank God for the quick service when you need something here.

Of course Rudy would have survived in England. The RICH always have access to all the heathcare they need.

And the richer you are in America the more likely your illnesses will be found early.

Why do Republicans all say they think "Socialized Medicine" is bad? They are simply not using their brains. Somebody told them it's bad so they just repeat it. Part of being a "conservative" or "right winger" is being stubborn. They demonize it with that ridiculous name and then go crazy saying any BS about it. We are the ONLY country without a national health service. Everywhere else, it's wonderful. I've spent significant time in UK, France, Italy and I can tell you from personal experience, not just "Sicko," that we're Hosed in the USA when it comes to medical care, and they have it sweet over there. Don't let Republican ignoramusses and cowards fool you with their overheated ignorant noise.
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Ok... so Rudy cares about America, that is why he is worried about healthcare? Well... its funny cause this guy sure wasnt too worried about the health of his own first responders and police when he told them the air was safe to breath and told the FEMA workers not to hand out Breathing appartus to the first responders because it would make NEW YORK look like it was unsafe!!!!

The EPA, FEMA and several other agencies warned him that the air was NOT SAFE and yet he insisted that it was and told the firefighters and Rescues workers and First Responders that it was!!!

This guy is a crook and a liar and doesnt care about any of us!!! This man should be punished for lying to the American people! Not to mention for trying to push the North American Union on us!!!

It's very clear that a pattern has emerged in which it is patently obvious that Rudy Giuliani is a serial exaggerator on such a grand scale as to make Al Gore look like a Boy Scout.

Maybe Rudy should spend less time bashing Hillary and more time checking his facts!

As a Brit I take great exception to Giulianis comments about "socialised medicine". I am sure he got great treatment in America because he has the money to pay for it. In the UK the ability to pay is not an issue. America has the best health care in the world only if you can afford it.
I suggest he sorts out the problems in his own country before attackick other countries. I know in which country I would rather be ill in.

I am sick and tired of people telling us that social health care is scary. I was living in Germany for most of my life, and received the best medical treatment of my life, both on private and government insurances. I have juvenile diabetes and visited doctors and hospitals on a regular basis, so I know what I am talking about. Now living in the U.S., I experience the same waiting lines as in Germany, and the medical treatment is no different to what I received in Germany. It's clear to me what Republicans are trying to do (again): Scare people and don't tell the truth.

Too bad Mr. Guiliani didn't mention that here, if you don't have any medical insurance, your survival rate is closer to 0%.