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Ron Paul 'Moneybombs' Fizz For Other Candidates

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November 28, 2007 3:05 PM

ABC's Z. Byron Wolf Reports: If there was any doubt that there is something special about the online synergy of the Ron Paul community, look no further than the attempts to replicate his November 5th "moneybomb."

Paul supporters raised more than 4.2 million from over 30,000 donors, on Nov. 5th chosen to commemorate Guy Fawkes Day. (Or anti-commemorating it since in England they celebrate the failure of Fawkes and the Paul people were presumably commemorating, at least Fawkes' attempt to blow up Parliament ... Its confusing, but in the new world of online political fundraising -- it worked.) 

Attempts by other campaigns to light their own money bombs have flopped.

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, for instance, by some accounts has an online following bigger than Paul's. One example is Obama's 165,000 Facebook friends to Paul's 40,000.

But when Obama's campaign tried to light a money bomb online recently attempting to raise $5 million on "Barack Friday," on November 16th, they was no boom. Not even a fizz. Just some empty wind and $4,600 from 72 people, according to the temperature gauge on Obama's website.

In all fairness, however, it must be pointed out that Obama raised more than four times what Paul did in the last financial quarter that ended in September -- and has consistently outraised him in every quarter.

Meanwhile, the website that was meant to explode on November 21st is already offline --but if you Google "Fred Thompson moneybomb" it asks if you meant "Fred Thompson Honeybomb." Supporters of Iowa darling former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark., did no better.

The question then becomes, can Paul's supporters recreate their own "Remember the 5th of November" magic with new efforts?

The provenance of the term "moneybomb" and who came up with the Guy Fawkes Day drive is up for dispute among Paul supporters, who have been waging an editing war on the Wikipedia entry for "Moneybomb."

Previous ABC reports on the effort gave most of the credit to Florida based music promoter Trevor Lyman. Apparently, if Wikipedia is correct (and you never know) we also should have given a bit of credit to a New York Jazz musician and some others. But while they disagree on who deserves the credit, Paul supporters are working in loose tandem for future projects.

Some of those people, specifically the people behind http://ronpaulmoneybomb.com/m, which claims to be the very first moneybomb site, are plotting a mini moneybomb for Friday. Lyman has gotten in that game too, launching http://rudysreadinglist.com/.

It has pledges from more than 2,000 people so far. The angle -- highlighting Paul's disagreements with former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani at previous debates about what exactly caused the terror attacks of September 11th, 2001.

Perhaps Paul and Giuliani will make some more kindling at tonight's CNN/YouTube debate. Paul supporters have been encouraged at Paul's website to contribute video questions.

But the big event is coming up on December 16th, when Paul supporters will commemorate Constitution Day and the Boston Tea Party. Paul supporters argue the inflation of the dollar represents a tax akin to the tax on tea, which started a revolution.

And Tea Party '07 may have the best chance to make another splash for Paul. At Lyman's site, there are already more than 21,000 pledges for donations. If each is for $100, as the site suggests they should be, that puts Paul halfway toward matching his November 5th Haul.

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You forgot to mention the Ron Paul Blimp, which is already paid for by another online fundraiser with less fan fair. The December 16th Tea Party fundraiser should do even better than the Nov 5th, because more people are pleged to donate way before the event. And not only is Ron Paul drawing support from the US, but he is gaining attention world wide, thanks to the net and not the MSM. And perhaps the other candidate's "money bombs" are duds, because they just don't inspire the devotion that RON PAUL does! Set-up an online poll to calculate supporters' love for their candidate and we'll win hands down. Give'm hell tonight RON!

Posted by: Uniblogger | Nov 28, 2007 3:45:57 PM

The poeple are speaking!!

Posted by: ken lewis | Nov 28, 2007 4:05:13 PM

If I remember correctly, there were only about 20,000 subscribed pledges on the November 5th site, which would indicate that December 16th will bring in about $4 million as it stands. (A lot of people don't like signing up, as it comes along with a daily e-mail update.)

Posted by: Willem de Wit | Nov 28, 2007 4:06:34 PM

Forgive me if I am wrong, but didn't Obama received donations from some special interest groups and corporate donations as well, whereas, Ron Paul's donations come from individuals. We have to compare apples to apples here, and your remark about Obama raising more than Ron Paul would not be the same. If I am wrong please correct me, I just want the truth is all.

Posted by: Tess | Nov 28, 2007 4:08:28 PM

oh, and I forgot to say thank you ABC for writing on Ron Paul. I hope the debate goes well tonight, looking forward hearing Ron Paul tonight on CNN.

I am a Ron Paul Supporter, and I approve this message.

Posted by: Tess | Nov 28, 2007 4:12:55 PM

November 5 was not about the real Guy Fawkes at all, but about the protagonist of the V for Vendetta movie, who fought against a fascist government and wore a Guy Fawkes mask.

Other than that, excellent article.

Posted by: Libertarian Girl | Nov 28, 2007 4:19:59 PM

This isn't surprising. Mr. Paul's supporters are obviously more devoted to the man and his principles (not to mention more creative!) than the other candidates' supporters are. All the other candidates have people who are fairly luke-warm in their support, barely paying attention to the campaign and resigned to the fact that THESE are apparently the best their parties have to offer.

But I've found Mr. Paul's message simply resonates with most people who hear it. He's honest and straightforward, and the way he talks about this country shows his love for it--and that inspires people. The other candidates can only dream of attracting the kind of passionate supporters Mr. Paul has. The problem? Unfortunately, most people haven't heard the message and don't know who Ron Paul is.

Everyone and his dog know who Obama, Hillary, and Rudy are, which is why standard donations and polling are based more on name recognition than anything. Plus, most people are too embarrassed to support someone hardly anyone else has heard of (thanks to the media!), so they fall in line behind the "mainstream" candidates. Mr. Paul's supporters don't have the media spreading his message, so we're forced to do it on our own--which will still never equal the amount of coverage given to the other candidates, no matter how hard we try.

My great hope is that the Tea Party will be such a smashing success that the media will be FORCED to cover it as something other than a "Gee, isn't this odd" kind of story. Then maybe we'll finally get people's attention. And once people start listening to Mr. Paul and his message, I think it's hard not to do all you can to support him.

Posted by: Greg8898 | Nov 28, 2007 4:29:37 PM

I work an 8 hour day raise a daughter by myself and spend at least 2 hours a day supporting Ron Paul.Thanks for the story

Posted by: GM | Nov 28, 2007 5:46:31 PM

Actually, Huckabee's supporters did a lot better than Obama, Fred, etc. We raised about $230,000 in one day (Nov 20). Obviously Paul's haul dwarfs this, however. As a Huckabee supporter, I have to congratulate Dr. Paul for his statesmanship though I find many of his ideas unrealistic. What's too bad is that Paul is being used as a symbol of protest by anarchists and left-wingers who have contempt for most of his actual positions. Many of his followers are the rudest and bitterest spammers and liars around. Hence the following:

Ron Paul is a saintly old soul
Who sets lofty fundraising goals
I guess it takes guts
But there aren't enough nuts
In the country to show in the polls!

Posted by: Ben Dribus | Nov 28, 2007 6:07:06 PM

And the major corporations think they are going to buy their president. NO, we the American people are going to buy OUR next president!!

Posted by: kenny | Nov 28, 2007 6:21:57 PM

To Tess' comment above, Obama does not accept money from PACs, corporations, or lobbyists. Neither does Edwards.

I commend any candidate who raises money this way. Paul's single-day fundraising is more than impressive, although that is not enough to earn my support. I fail to see how his policy stance is any different than anarchy.

Posted by: Gen | Nov 28, 2007 6:30:00 PM

ron paul inspires people to get into the whole voting process because of his views. the same views he has always had, the views OUR great nation was founded on. google the things he talks about and you will see how true he really is. go to the library if you don't trust the internet and it's content, you'll see the same. you will find that BOTH sides of the story confirm what he says. don't assume you know what's been going on all this time. this man speaks the truth, plain and simple; those who take the time and effort to research become ron paul fans.

Posted by: roland | Nov 28, 2007 7:39:14 PM

oh yeah.......RON PAUL FOR THE LONG HAUL

Posted by: roland | Nov 28, 2007 7:41:18 PM

Gen, thank you for the clarification regarding Obama, glad to hear he is not like Hillary, or some of the other Repubs. I am not voting Dem since I found the right candidate of choice for me, and he is running as a Republican, of course that would be Ron Paul. I decided to vote for the person and their stance on federal issues rather than the Party affiliation. I will say his policies are right in line with our Constitution, putting the majority of social issues and responsibilities back to the state levels where they belong. Each state is better equipped to deal with the people of their areas. I agree with Ron Paul in regards to bringing our troops home now, smaller federal government and spending, less taxes, and a hard stance on illegals, that is why I am voting for him. Thanks again Gen.

Posted by: Tess | Nov 28, 2007 8:12:15 PM

Ben Dribus: If you think Mr. Paul's support comes from "anarchists and left-wingers," you'll be very surprised if he runs as a third-party candidate. Most half-way sane Republicans admit he'd do major damage to the REPUBLICAN candidate--not the Democratic one--if he ran on a third-party ticket.

You guys can't have it both ways. He can't be a kook with left-wing supporters AND a guy who splits the Republican vote in a three-way race. He's either one or the other--not both.

I happen to think he's backed by a lot of libertarians, old-school Republicans, and folks who vote Republican but aren't necessarily registered with the party. These are exactly the kind of right-wing people most upset with the war and the growth of the government under Republican leadership. The party has absolutely no chance if it dismisses these people.

I find it amusing that most Republicans have gotten so scared of a guy who supports the Constitution, calling him a kook and deriding his supporters as "spammers and liars." You know, the Constitution was an extremely radical idea when it was originally written, and it's kind of scary so many people in this country believe it's a radical idea today. Just goes to show you who the real patriots are...

Posted by: Greg8898 | Nov 28, 2007 8:28:10 PM

Guy Fawkes was fighting an oppressive government. A government that took liberties that infringed upon the rights of the people. One recent example of this is when the U.S. Supreme court ruling in Kilo vs. New London allowed the privileged of this country to take property from American citizens strictly for the purpose of making money. Know doubt the five judges ruled in a unconstitutional manner to satisfy the money people that had provided financial support to propel their careers to this level.

Posted by: Scott K. | Nov 28, 2007 10:17:16 PM

Ron Paul has very little if any support from main line Republicans. Most of his financial support comes from very liberal areas of the country. His wacko supporters have become very proficient in jamming on-line or call-in polls. They are recommending disrupting Republican primaries by asking anti-war Democrats to cross over and vote for him in 24 states depriving real Republicans the opportunity to vote for viable candidates.

Posted by: Mad Jayhawk | Nov 29, 2007 3:16:07 AM

Mad Jayhawk: A map was compiled about a month ago which showed the areas of the country that have contributed the most to Mr. Paul.

Surprise! It's the most conservative-libertarian minded states in this country, namely the west and southwest. His support comes from people who want government out of their lives. No one who identifies him- or herself as "liberal" will support Mr. Paul. They want a lot more government, he wants a whole lot LESS. There's no way around that fact.

Don't just regurgitate the crap you hear from Hannity and Rush. Be honest: when you say "real Republicans," you really mean "Bush police state and Iraq war supporters." I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's a very big chunk of Republican voters who no longer fall into that category. And if that group is simply dismissed by the Republican "mainstream," there's absolutely no chance of a Republican being the next president.

As for Democrats "disrupting" the election of Republicans, I seem to remember a lot of Republicans supporting Mr. Lieberman in his last election. Right?

Posted by: Greg8898 | Nov 29, 2007 9:56:15 AM

Ben Dribus: Most Ron Paul supporters know his positions and are comfortable with them. To imply otherwise is a backwards insult to both us and to Ron Paul.

Gen: Obama and Edwards DO take money from special interests and lobbyists. Edwards got elected to the Senate in NC on the backs of his fellow trial lawyers, who supported him getting into office. That's a powerful lobby if I ever saw one.

Mad Jayhawk: What exactly are "mainline Republicans"? I'm on the executive committee of my county's Republican Party and I proudly support Ron Paul. Our county party has lost many members due to the war and George W., and we've gained back more than that from people joining because of Ron Paul.

Since when was it EVER bad for Democrats to vote for a Republican candidate rather than a Democrat? That's the ultimate Republican goal! If you think that is crazy, you are more mad than your nickname implies. He also has support from all over the country, not just "liberal areas." Get the facts and come back prepared with them next time.

If the Republicans don't nominate Ron Paul, they WILL lose to the Democrats next year. A pro-war candidate simply CANNOT win.

Posted by: Libertarian Girl | Dec 10, 2007 4:34:06 AM

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