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Ron Paul's Gunpowder Plot
November 02, 2007 6:12 PM
ABC's Z. Byron Wolf Reports from South Carolina: It's sort of an odd allusion for a fundraising campaign in these days of hypersensitivity to terrorism, even if the Congressman it will benefit is running for president as a Libertarian Republican spoiler who wants to drastically change the way government runs in Washington.
But there was Ron Paul on the stump at Clemson in South Carolina telling a group of several hundred students and supporters, "Remember, remember the 5th of November."
In this case, he was referring to a fundraising drive and not a plot specifically to blow anything up. Maybe the apple cart.
The catchy slogan comes from a nursery rhyme about Guy Fawkes, the 17th Century crusader for Catholics rights caught in the basement of Parliament with 36 barrels of gunpowder. He failed in his mission to blow the place up.
Paul clarified at the rally that he is not involved in this particular fundraising effort.
But on their website with a call "for the largest one day political donation in history," Paul supporters want to ignite a monetary bomb of their own. They hope for 100,000 subscribers to raise $10 million bucks for Paul on that day. They have a ways to go over the weekend –- the site lists 15,991 subscribers as of late Friday.
The Paul campaign has set an official goal of raising $12 million by the end of the year.
Perhaps it's a stretch, but if Parliament is anything like Congress, its an allegorical explosion in the place where Paul casts votes every day as a Republican Congressman from Texas.
The Guy Fawkes theme is not new in popular culture. But in recent years, allusions have seen the plot succeed -- or at least envisioned a boom.
It's the topic of the John Lennon song "Remember" from his Plastic Ono Band Album.
The end of the song goes like this: "If you ever feel so sad, And the whole world is driving you mad, Remember, remember today. Don't feel sorry, 'Bout the way it's gone, Don't you worry, 'Bout what you've done, Remember, remember the fifth of November. (Boom)"
The Guy Fawkes scenario is also the subject of the dystopic 2005 Big Brother-style fantasy thriller "V for Vendetta" in which a Guy Fawkes caped crusader succeeds in blowing up Parliament.
November 2, 2007 in Thompson, Fred | Permalink | User Comments (113)
Yeh, that's right, send your hard-earned money to a guy that doesn't give ONE IOTA about helping the poor & middle class (children, adults, nor seniors) w/affordable healthcare!!!
Posted by: sayNO2drno | Nov 2, 2007 6:33:52 PM
Btw, he DOES though, plan to NOT make drug companies liable for FALSELY marketing their products!!! AND, he ALSO plans to PROHIBIT the government from continuing any medical research (to find cures & vaccines, etc)!!! So, go right ahead, & give your money away to this man for these causes!!!
Posted by: sayNO2drno | Nov 2, 2007 6:41:26 PM
Ron Paul is the only thing that can save our country from the special interests and big government spenders.
I am tired of sending my hard earned money to the fat cats in washington who fight over taxpayers money and send a small fraction of it back to save face in their "social programs" and invite more illegal aliens to sign up for free handouts.
Posted by: Paul Weber | Nov 2, 2007 6:44:57 PM
Please Google Ron Paul yourself and listen to what the guy has to say. Don't make up your mind based on the partisan posts of a few random readers.
Peace and free trade! Ron Paul!
Posted by: Francisco d Anconia | Nov 2, 2007 6:48:30 PM
this is a response to poster: sayno
You're very ill informed ('scuse the pun) - Ron Paul is the only one with a feasible plan for Health Care and if you listened to anything at all that he has had to say, he is the only Candidate who really cares about what is and what will happen to the poor and middle class.
He is the only one who's word you can trust.
Unless you don't care at all for the Constitution ??
Posted by: TexansForRonPaul | Nov 2, 2007 6:50:34 PM
I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's just totally unfounded and untrue. Do you really trust the government to do a better job at providing affordable heath-care? What you would get is waiting lists and service like the D.M.V. or post office and a very narrow list of covered items. Ask someone in Canada how much they like their health care system. Ron Paul wants to give the tax dollars that would pay for such a system back to all of us who paid them in the first place and allow us as individuals to drive competition and consequently drive prices down for many prescription items. Do you really think that as a seasons medical doctor he is really that out of touch with the problems with the current system? Maybe you should do a little more homework on Dr. Paul before you slander him like that.
Posted by: David H. | Nov 2, 2007 6:51:09 PM
He DOES want to spend the money we have overseas and actually make WHOLE social security and medicare! So there :-)~
And as far as tort, he wants to CLOSE the lobby doors, which is what gives the criminal companies a red carpet for the illegal pushing of harmful drugs on our streets. And he wants to open up the university-business enterprise of true free market (not corporate welfarism we've experienced), thereby making good, safe drugs available by choice, not by an HMO, driven by lobby and special interests. Anyone remember Vioxx?
There are many more constructive ways to deal with medicine and taking care of the needy. You need only to look at his record AND example. There is a larger, more profound reasoning to his positions - and they do NOT certainly include putting the poor or needy on the street.
He does not want to do things overnight. In fact, he has NEVER voted to pull money out of social security OR medicare - it's unconstitutional - and -again, he wants to make them whole.
only then, institute a lobby-free market system that WILL provide cheap, competitive, even compassionate medicine. I remember church hospitals, affordable medicine, and doctor's house calls. And hypocratic oaths.
Your statements are derisive and shortsided.
Posted by: Pdubya | Nov 2, 2007 6:52:42 PM
Thanks sayNO2drno, you pretty much did describe why I'm voting for him. Of course I'd disagree with your assertions that he doesn't want to help people w/affordable health care (ignoring that he often treated patients for free when they couldn't afford it). I think that's exactly what he wants to do, just through a different method than yours (yours=theft). I think his method will work, I think yours is immoral and will not work. Seems obvious who I should vote for...
Posted by: Jimmy Liberty | Nov 2, 2007 6:54:20 PM
You socialists need to stop misrepresenting Paul. It's not that he "doesn't care" about the needy, it's that he doesn't want a bloated, wasteful, corrupt government middleman stealing YOUR money and supposedly divvying it up in your name. And bear in mind that if the states want to do that, they'll still be able to. He is running for one Presidency, not 50 Governorships. The entire premise of his politics is that the federal government is too big, and that the states should be making these decisions. This keeps decisions LOCAL, with the people who will have to abide by them. Funnily enough, the Constitution agrees with Paul.
Posted by: phoobaar | Nov 2, 2007 6:54:49 PM
To the first post, thats not what we need - government healthcare is equivalent to no health care it just cost everyone a whole lot of money.
Get a clue or just go to Canada to see for yourself. I would not be willing to wait three weeks to get my tooth pulled.
Posted by: Joe Lawson | Nov 2, 2007 6:58:03 PM
I do believe sayNo2drno is speaking out of his butt. How does he know whether Dr. Paul gives one iota or two iotas about the poor? Oh, I know. Because Ron Paul doesn't want to use the power of government to confiscate people's money and then redistribute it to whomever the government deems needy, he must not care for the poor. I wonder if sayNO knows that Dr. Paul gave his services to the poor instead of taking Medicaid money. Actions speak louder than socialist rhetoric.
Posted by: Kevin | Nov 2, 2007 6:58:52 PM
If 'sayNO2drno' knew anything about the monetary system is set up, and how we are robbed of our wealth, this person would begin to understand WHY there are poor people in our country and WHY the middle class is disappearing. In regards to medicine, this person should also begin to look at the 'cures' we have today that we spend all of our money on. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the medical establishment offers NO CURES, only 'disease management'. I AM VOTING FOR RON PAUL. He is the TRUTH.
Posted by: Next Dimensions | Nov 2, 2007 7:02:00 PM
I find it amusing how hostile people are towards Ron Paul. They spread UN-true facts and become almost belligerent. If Paul is as minimal as you say, then why so hostile? why so worried? Wake up! Educate yourself! Do you always do what your told?
Posted by: Whistler | Nov 2, 2007 7:06:09 PM
SAVE THE DOLLAR!
The best way we can help the people is to stop this wasteful spending domestically and overseas and save the dollar!
Inflation is so bad, cost of living is going to DOUBLE in about a year! Can you imagine paying $6/gallon for gas and double for your heating oil and food? It's happening already, look at the cost of a gallon of milk! The best indicator for this is the cost of gold, it's over 800/oz and turning fastly into 1000/oz by xmas!
To help the middle and lower class, stop the inflation, and get Ron Paul in the white house!
Invest in gold, buy some emergency soup, and pray that the Liberals and Warmongers don't keep doing what they are doing.
Go Ron Paul! $100 on Nov 5th
Posted by: Tim | Nov 2, 2007 7:15:54 PM
Remember, Remember, Give all you can on any day. The 5th of November is as good as any other! I think it started because of the anti fascist fiction movie "V for Vendetta". Many people see our society as reflecting what they saw in that movie. This is a statement to reject fascism, not embrace Guy Fawkes.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Freedom, Liberty, Financial Soundness and Responsibility.
His reasoning is sound, and his manner his of a truly gentle and concerned man. Not the kind of guy who hates anyone, let alone the poor. I have met the man, and he is Real, he is Honest, he really should be our President!
We can't stop there, we have to get active at all levels and only elect persons of high integrity to all offices. We must remove the cancer in Washington, stop voting for talking heads, demand real people as representatives. Like Ron Paul.
Posted by: Rahn | Nov 2, 2007 7:26:00 PM
Yeah, just go to Canada and see for yourself, people! It must really be horrible to live in a country where the health care system, while not perfect, won't leave you homeless and hopelessly destitute if you become seriously ill or injured! Bottom line, folks: Nobody's health care system is perfect, and you do have to wait a LITTLE longer (usually around 2-4 weeks) for certain MINOR or ELECTIVE procedures in single-payer countries, but any REASONABLE person would much rather have to wait a little longer for minor/elective procedures than risk ending up living behind a dumpster and begging for a handout from selfish, hateful, right-wing social Darwinians like most of the heartless primates posting around here! Hundreds of billions for bombs, but precious little for schools and NOTHING for health care -- get a grip for one stinking moment and THINK about what that says about us as a nation! It's DISGRACEFUL, people!
Posted by: TheDreaming1 | Nov 2, 2007 7:28:20 PM
SayNO2drno, if the Founders of this country wanted the Federal government to be charity, you would find authority for such in the Constitution. Not only do you not find it in the Constitution, you find in places like Ammendment 10 of the Bill of Rights that the intended role for the Federal government was that it should do very little. Ron Paul understands this. He also has taken the time to study libertarian philosophy (you know...liberty?...like the Statue of Liberty?) and Austrian economics. There are easy to understand primers for both in the marketplace. Get a hold of some and read them. You'll quickly learn that the issues involved are larger than you currently perceive them to be.
Posted by: Brad | Nov 2, 2007 7:30:04 PM
The one thing Ron Paul won't do for your poor and middle class young men and women is send them off to die in a war that 70% of American's want over now. He will not leave them saddled with tens of trillions of dollars of debt and hyper-inflation. In a few years the government won't be able to provide anything for anybody because of inflation anyway.
Posted by: Terry Frisch | Nov 2, 2007 7:31:26 PM
Ron Paul is the only sensible candidate running. Everyone else promises more spending, more spending, more spending. We can't even afford our current obligations. We borrow and "print" the money which is driving massive price inflation that REALLY hurts the poor and middle class.
We also pay interest on the phony money created by the Fed and loaned to the government. The rich bankers get richer - stealing our wealth - it's reverse Robin Hood. Ron Paul wants to stop them!
Posted by: James | Nov 2, 2007 7:31:55 PM
I like some of what Ron would plan to do as president, but I have a fundamental ideological disagreement with Libertarians that is simply irreconciliable. They say government should do virtually nothing; I say government exists to take care of the vital necessities that people cannot take care of for themselves! We have fire departments and police departments for perfectly valid reasons -- and when you call them for help, they don't ask whether your (grievously expensive private) insurance covers the problem or leave you on the verge of bankruptcy just for putting out your house fire or arresting the two drunks fighting on your lawn! Health care is a form of protection that is NO LESS of a public necessity than fire or police protection! Furthermore, we ALREADY give old folks free "socialized" health care (it's called Medicare, and its costs run about ONE-EIGHTH of what PRIVATE health care costs -- so much for free-market absolutism!), so there's no reason why can't we do it for everyone else, too! All we need to do is stop waging needless wars to the tune of $1 billion-plus per week and we'll have plenty of money to spend on providing every citizen with health care AND a decent education!
Posted by: TheDreaming1 | Nov 2, 2007 7:50:49 PM
1) About 5 of the 20,000 contributors to the Nov 5 event associate in any way with Guy Fawukes or whatever his name is.
2) Nov 5 is celebrated as THE FOILING OF THE BOMB PLOT. The bomb is not celebrated. The *foiling* of the plot is celebrated on Nov 5 in Britain.
UNDERSTAND THIS?
Posted by: James | Nov 2, 2007 8:02:27 PM
Sorry sayNO2drno. The things you want the federal government to do aren't authorized in the Constitution. People everywhere are waking up to that fact. Jump onboard and your eyes will open too! :-)
Posted by: BenjFranklin | Nov 2, 2007 8:07:59 PM
Oh, and I forgot to mention:
3) Very few people actually pledged to donate anything until the website removed all the Guy Fawkes references were removed from the donations page! The only references left are those to Nov 5, a day celebrated in Britain as the *FOILING* of the gunpowder plot.
Posted by: James | Nov 2, 2007 8:09:26 PM
To the dreaming one: Medicare is so much better? Is that why it's broke and provides horrible service? Besides we don't have free market health care, we have managed care. You can still only go where your insurance tells you. If it was the other way around prices would come down.
Fire departments and police departments aren't controlled at the federal level so I don't know why you bring them up. Those are local governments. Besides, it is possible to go without a payed fire department, many rural towns have a volunteer fire department where everyone pitches in. In the old days bigger cities had it too. You've just become dependent on the government and that's your problem.
Posted by: Jeff | Nov 2, 2007 8:13:24 PM
Street Mugger: Give me your money or else!
Citizen: Yikes!
Mugger: Well....you don't have to give me all of it. Give me about 45% of it, and make it snappy!
Citizen: 45%?
Mugger: Yes...well, you see, I like to think of myself as benevolent. I'll take only 45%...for now. And I don't want it all for myself. I want to use most of it for "good" stuff. You know...charity work. I feel that I can do such things far better than you can. My landlord is sick and needs some medicine, and the postman's kid needs help funding for a community college class. Sure, I'm robbing you, but don't you feel better about it now?
Citizen: Well, I was going to use that money to buy something at the deli, and by so doing help provide jobs and a livelihood for the employees there, thus allowing them to buy medicine and schooling for themselves and for their children. Isn't that charitable? Wouldn't I be performing a moral good?
Mugger: Not from where I'm standing...and I'm the one holding the gun! Now, like I said...Cough it up!...OR ELSE!!!
(Thus endeth the moral lesson for the day.)
VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!
Posted by: Brad | Nov 2, 2007 8:18:01 PM
Have we evolved into a society that honestly believes what the MSM tells us?
Shall we just ignore what history has taught us? The only response that Dr. Paul can get from the neocons is, "name calling" and," apologize".....by factually telling the truth,and honestly believing we can fix what's broken in this country. Unfortunatly we as a people have gotten complacent and ignorant to what's really happening to this country, and based on the facts, I believe Dr. Paul has the best remedy. Of course special interests and big money will disagree because why? They're getting powerful & rich off the status quo.
We have a tough road ahead...do your research and find out what the real deal is. I believe we can get our country back and Ron Paul is our best chance.
Posted by: northland | Nov 2, 2007 8:18:28 PM
James, Dr. Paul would not argue against having fire and police departments; I think he would object if they were run by the federal government. Do you remember their response during Katrina. The federal government was set up in our Constitution to take care of things, like national defense, that people and communities can't take care of on their own. The local level is where you should look for solutions to health care issues (that were largely created by the federal government's meddling).
Posted by: John Lafer | Nov 2, 2007 8:18:33 PM
I would have no problem with Ron Paul as president. Not my first choice but certainly not my last. It won’t happen. Ron Paul won’t get the Republican nomination. He will break off and run as a Libertarian pulling votes away from the Republicans and putting Hillary in office. I saw this coming months ago. If Paul cares about the US at all he will work as a congressman to better the US and forget being president. His efforts as a Libertarian will just put Hillary in office, nothing else.
Posted by: Royce | Nov 2, 2007 8:20:08 PM
why don't you read how Chicago was rebuilt after the fire of 1871. No government intervention. Donations of supplies from across the country came in and businessmen and private businesses planned and rebuilt the city and in the process created Grant Park. I think private citizens can get by just fine when they know someone else won't do it for them.
Posted by: Jeff | Nov 2, 2007 8:30:18 PM
God forbid Hillary in office.
As for Ron Paul running out...I don't think so, as more and more people are waking up. I just hope it's not too late in this country that WE can make it and not big money interests. What's that tell you?
Posted by: northland | Nov 2, 2007 8:36:19 PM
Royce,
No! It's not the efforts of a consistently principled man like Ron Paul that will put Hillary in office. It's the efforts of his Republican competitors -- those that ignore our precious Constitution -- that will put her in office. Ron Paul is not the one who should change. Rather, it's the candidates who choose to ignore what America is all about that should change. Don't you get it? We, the supporters of Ron Paul, want a proper, SMALL federal government! You perceive the two sides of the fight as the Republicans vs. Democrats. We Ron Paul supporters -- the patriotic lovers of liberty -- see the two sides of the fight as the big government Republicrats vs. small government champion Ron Paul. Never vote for what you perceive as the lesser of evils. You'll only ever get evil that way. It's only when people start demanding what they want that they'll ever get it. Vote for the morally good. Vote for Ron Paul.
Posted by: Brad | Nov 2, 2007 8:47:45 PM
Go to Canada today, 94 cents to the Looney......5years ago 1.40 to the Looney......anyone else get the idea what is happening to the dollar?
Posted by: Judi | Nov 2, 2007 9:45:37 PM
I didn't know how much trouble this country is in until I read the comments of the Paulbots. Double their order of tinfoil or maybe the nut from Ohio will send the mothership to pick all of you up. It's a good thing most of you are already locked away in a rubber room or you would hurt yourselves. Between Kucinich and Paul they have gathered so many nuts the squirrel will starve this winter.
Posted by: Scrapiron | Nov 2, 2007 10:10:41 PM
Do you think you are able of posting something of substance instead of name calling? The problem with your name calling is that all the post are still here for everyone to read. People can see that Ron Paul supporters are not "nutty, tin hat wearing" robots. We are people who FINALLY have a candidate who is honest and trustworthy. Someone who wants to do something about the real problems facing our country today, not someone who just spouts mindless sound bites all day. Why don't you try reading up on Dr. Paul and then if you have some real concerns, post them in an intelligent manner.
Posted by: kerrAvon | Nov 2, 2007 11:13:59 PM
I'm tired of giving 25% or more of my hard earned income to the IRS to be used to support this illegal war. I'm tired of watching the "federal reserve" i.e private bank manipulate the currency printing money out of thin air. Wake Up! Gold is hitting all time highs, oil is hitting all times highs, foreclosures at all time highs, and it now OK to torture, while your right to have an attorney is not longer guaranteed. I going to donate on November the 5th to help Ron Paul with the media bomb that is needed to wake up the masses.
Posted by: greg | Nov 2, 2007 11:36:22 PM
GO RON PAUL! GO RON PAUL! GOD BLESS RON PAUL!
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." ~Ron Paul, Security and Liberty 04/25/2007
“It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.” - Samuel Adams
"None are more enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
-- Goethe
Posted by: chris lawton | Nov 2, 2007 11:40:18 PM
1. "spoiler"?? Ron Paul ain't looking to spoil ANYTHING. He's looking to WIN.
2. why the superfluous "Libertarian Republican"? The same is not done for the "Green Democrat" Al Gore, the "Liberal Republican" Rudy Julie Annie, or the "Democrat Independent" Joe Lieberman!
The attempts by the MSM to marginalize Ron Paul continue...
Posted by: Donny Marco | Nov 3, 2007 12:11:11 AM
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."
- Barry Goldwater
Posted by: Grandpa Jizz | Nov 3, 2007 4:28:27 AM
You know I'd be here. Add my name to the list of 15,000 plus and lets get this on the road! Ron Paul really is feared by the lazy, greedy, nation busting bunch that "we know who" has selcted to "run" for both parties. We need to 'run' them out of town. CNN online today published that Obama missed the SCHIP vote. Later in the article it mentions others in the election that did as well. Hillary Clinton is one of them and the front runner - but is mentioned in the headline? Obama. $150 million down the drain and Hillary sent after more money after the last debate. Bought "news" media "journalists" and mogals.
Posted by: acornfarm48 | Nov 3, 2007 9:50:52 AM
What we need is for someone to show us the way. Not the old way. Not the same way, but a NEW WAY. Think about this for a minute. What if we pulled all of our troops out of South Korea? They've been there for 50+ years. What if we quit worrying about Iran, but instead, realized that its having a nuclear weapon will not mean the end of the world? What if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle-East, and brought them all home? What if we realistically addressed the National Debt, and paid attention to REALLY DOING SOMETHING about stopping illegal immigration? These are the ideas of Republican Presidential candidate, Dr. Ron Paul. He's a ten term Congressman and a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He's an intellectual who's published four books, three of which are devoted entirely to sound economics and one to foreign policy. He was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania as a pious Lutheran, but now he attends a Baptist church. Paul is given to mulling things over morally. Whenever he recollects the helicopter pilots he treated as an Air Force Flight Surgeon (Captain) during the Vietnam War, a war which he now says was "totally unnecessary and illegal," he laments, "They were gung-ho. I’ve often thought about how many of those people never came back." Candidates with the high level of personal integrity and proven track record of adherance to The Constitution, Congressman Paul has always demonstrated only come around once in a lifetime, if we're lucky.
Posted by: Mike | Nov 3, 2007 2:25:31 PM
Hysterical.. no statement with substance. I suppose if you did a little research you would learn. Sigh.. I must be silly to think you would form your opinions around substance.
Who should we vote for then? Who has a better record fighting for Americans and a better plan for America? You dont want change do you? You think we can keep this government propped up on borrowed money forever?
You are the one wearing the tin foil hat, crying 'Terrorist' and 'War'. Some solution to our problems. Look to Big Brother because Big Brother does such a great job at protecting us. (9/11, Cali wildfires and Katrina)
The CIA, FBI and NSA couldnt stop 19 from hijacking our planes. We invade two nations and cant catch the leader, even though we know where he is at. Come on folks.. WAKE UP!
Posted by: Parke | Nov 3, 2007 2:25:59 PM
Yeah, that's right - where in the Constitution does the Federal Government have the right to establish a nation-wide health care, social security or educational program???? That is for you to do in your own locality! Get a clue!
I love how we listen to year after year of people complaining how big, intrusive, wasteful and out of control our government has gotten - and when we finally get a candidate who is willing to fight to end these wasteful programs, people freak out and make him sound like he's insane. Ron Paul wants what the people want (except for the few out there with their hands out - gimme, gimme, gimme - you should be ashamed!).
RON PAUL 2008 - DONATE NOW OR PAY LATER!
Posted by: blujaded | Nov 3, 2007 2:26:03 PM
Most intelligent people can see right through the mainstream media's bias against Ron Paul. "What about the polls?", you ask. As someone who's been in the business, I know you can make a poll result look anyway you want. All you have to do is call or not call on people in a certain demographic group to achieve your desired result. You can see the man has support. He's won ALL of the viewer call-in polls in ALL of the GOP debates he's been in. People everywhere are in the street, and on the Net, supporting him like no other. And his campaign chest (17 mil+) is growing daily, and not from huge corporate donations like the other GOP and Democratic party candidates get from defense contractors and bankers, but from grass root supporters who give what little they can afford--$5, $10, whatever. This is a 21st Century political revolution, my friends, and the Oligarchs or on the defensive. Ignore what the media network giants like CBS tell you. They sold-out to the status quo decades ago. This man has some major grass roots support across this country. Millions of Americans believe he is our only hope to restore peace, prosperity and freedom in this country. Presidential candidates with the personal integrity and proven track record of adherance to The Constitution Congressman, Paul has always demonstrated only come around only once in a lifetime, if we're lucky. The stakes are too high. The cause of freedom is too important. Get off your couch, put the remote down and support Ron Paul!
Posted by: Mike | Nov 3, 2007 2:26:44 PM
What sayNO? You are saying Ron Paul is NOT a mindless Socialist automaton or a power hungry fear-mongering control freak like all the Liberals who run both parties? Oh dear, thanks for the clue. LOL!
End the Nanny State, the Welfare State and the Imperialist State all by showing up to participate in the GOP primary process in your local precinct. No other actions or opinions matter, register as a Republican and participate. Assimilation is your only alternative to active resistance through constructive participation.
Jahfre Fire Eater
Posted by: Jeffrey Northrup | Nov 3, 2007 2:28:14 PM
Ron Paul is the best candidate I have ever supported. I have done 3 things for the first time since supporting this
man.
1. I donated money to a presidential candidate
2. Held a sign on a street corner in support of the good Dr.
3. I have become a libertarian which simply means believe in Liberty!
Like Ron Paul says this campaign is about Freedom, Peace and Prosperity!
Ron Paul for President!
Posted by: Liberty Machine | Nov 3, 2007 2:29:31 PM
My fellow Americans just don't seem to care that our nation, along with The Constitution upon which it was founded, is being flushed-down the NWO toilet by our nations' bought and paid for politicians and media.
While the Oligarchs warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, they at the same time leave our border wide open, and fund and conduct illegal wars overseas that do nothing but encite the terrorism which their Orwellian Laws like the Patriot Act and The Real ID Act pretend to protect us from.
Wake up America! It's not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving the planet from Global Warming, or any of that other fear-mongering garbage the sold-out, mainstream media feeds you 24/7. It's about feeding the bankers and the military industrial complex, and facilitating the ruling elite's ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing us into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and control everywhere we go and everything we do. It's the groundwork for totalitarianism, my friends. It's New World Order plan of Bush, Clinton, Giuliani, et.al., being executed quite beautifully.
You're a victim of mass mind control--a frog in a pot. In order to cook the frog, you don't throw him into a pot of boiling water. If you do, he'll resist and jump-out. What you do instead is, you turn the heat-up REAL SLOW, and by the time the water is boiling he won't be able to jump out anymore, because it's too late--he's already doomed.
Posted by: Mike | Nov 3, 2007 2:30:29 PM
The top Dem wants socialized health care, that would be a HUGE mistake. It sounds good, but when you look deep into the countries that have it, you find they don't like it and private health care is everywhere.
I do not want to live in a socialist country, if I did, I would have moved years ago.
The top Rep candidates want to blow up the middle east and take over the world.
I do not want to live in an empire. We are quickly becoming this with troops all over the world occupying countries we have no business being in.
How can I vote for either one. If Ron Paul does not make it past the primary, I will be forced to vote 3rd party.
Posted by: Pizza God | Nov 3, 2007 2:31:24 PM
Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination. If he does, I predict a landslide victory in November of 2008. Even the oddsmakers in Vegas aren't willing to discount his chances. They're currently giving him 6:1 odds to win against Hillery if he gets the nomination. Romney, McCain and the globalist, sell-out Giuliani aren't given anything better than a 25:1 chance of winning if they get the GOP nod. All it takes is for formerly apathetic individuals to get off the couch and nominate him in their local Republican primary or caucus process. Political parties are nothing more than tools. Those who read the manual and use the tools properly will win the nomination for their candidate. For the past 20 years, many good people have stayed at home and accepted whatever candidate they let others select for them. This year, those people are learning how to use their vote to bring about positive and long overdue political change in this country. To make a difference, you must participate in the Republican primary election or caucus process in your county, precinct or district. Nothing else matters. If we do this, we win. If not, we lose. The GOP has been suffering from declining participation for decades. Fewer than 10% of registered voters have ALL the power because they actually participate. Now the remaining 90% must surge to use their vote as a tool for bringing about positive change to our country. The time to act is now. The time for political revolution has come. The time for Ron Paul is NOW!
Posted by: Mike | Nov 3, 2007 2:34:28 PM
Mr. Wolf,
Thank you for the fascinating historical background that establishes the symbolism of November 5th. Until now, I had assumed that it had been chosen randomly or that it had some vague connection to something in popular culture.
Dr. Paul may or may not reach the $12M mark, but he will certainly raise more than enough to continue to increase awareness about his campaign and its constitutional message.
Posted by: Darryl Schmitz | Nov 3, 2007 2:36:41 PM
If you like taxes, war, gov't spying on its citizens, massive debts, a shrinking value dollar, then by all means vote for G'man, Romney, Mccain and the others. They will continue everything you want above. If you love freedom, liberty, fiscal responsibility, small gov't, no wars etc... Then Ron Paul is the ONLY guy to vote for. Whatever you do, make up your own mind.
Posted by: Mark | Nov 3, 2007 2:49:49 PM
Ron Paul is the only canidate that uses the constitution,and bill of rights,the principals this country was founded on,as his platform.Our GOD GIVEN BIRTHRIGHTS AS AMERICAN CITIZENS!THE FREEDOMS WE have that are slowly being upsurped by those in govenment,that are supposed to work for us!WAKE UP!"Rightfull liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law"because law is often but,the tyrants will,and always so when it violates the rights of an individual" Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: montanaman | Nov 3, 2007 3:06:26 PM
I'm going to have to second my fellow commentators. November the 5th never really was "Guy Fawkes day" in America. Almost no-one here knows who he is. However, they do know "V for Vendetta," which is all about the people rising up to oppose a government which has grown corrupt and self-serving.
This is what November 5th is about now in America.
Posted by: Ben W. | Nov 3, 2007 3:08:24 PM
Dr. Ron Paul is the only man running right now who can save this country. I'll be donating to him until he is elected president next year.
Posted by: Nate | Nov 3, 2007 3:14:04 PM
That was beautiful Darryl, very well said. And there are also stay at home mom's like myself who are "this" close to having to leave my children with a sitter so I can return to work because we can't keep up with inflation with only one income. By the time we put gas in the car, heat our home, buy groceries and shoes, there is not enough money left to pay "our taxes".
I'm tired of being lied to, tired of struggling, tired tired tired.
We need Ron Paul in the white house.
Posted by: Vivian | Nov 3, 2007 3:14:32 PM
sayNO2drno I guess I need to school you too! You are wrong about all of what you said!
Do you even have any kind of supporting data?! I think not! I guess you like working for months out of the year to pay your income tax!!! Cause thats how much you work just to pay the government so they can pay off the interest for the money they borrow from the elitist bankers!!
I am sure you already knew that though! Thats what I like about you dude, Your attention to detail!
RON PAUL FOR PRES , SEMPER FI!!!
Posted by: Ezra | Nov 3, 2007 3:19:04 PM
I haven't become dependent on the government. I've never HAD a government upon which I COULD depend, I'm sad to say, because I'm an AMERICAN! And by the by, it makes no difference whether fire and police departments are funded locally, federally, or anything in between -- the bottom line is that they are PUBLICLY funded! I can't believe I'm actually wasting my time talking to a Ron Paul disciple about ANYTHING -- you people are the New Dittoheads! Just look at yourselves -- you've all got that same eyes-glazed-over fanatic look like those people in films of the 1930s Nuremberg rallies! It's friggin' SCARY!
Posted by: TheDreaming1 | Nov 3, 2007 3:21:50 PM
To all of you out there that say negative things about Ron Paul, I have this to say: Do yourself a favor; look at American history, take a look at what Ron Paul’s web site, his policy's that he stands behind, look at the You Tube video's before you draw your conclusion on him. If you want to be controlled and be looked after by the government go ahead vote for the other candidates, give them the power to do whatever they want. On the other hand you could support Ron Paul SAVE AMERICA RESTORE LIBERTY AND THE CONSTITUTION.
Personally I believe the answer to America's political problems is the same commitment to freedom that earned America its greatness: a free-market economy and the abundance and prosperity it brings; a dedication to civil liberties and personal freedom that marks this country above all others; and a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and free trade as prescribed by America's founders. I believe that being free and independent is a great way to live. I want a system which encourages all people to choose what they want from life; that lets them live, love, work, play, and dream their own way. I look forward to a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others. I believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized. As recently as the 1960s, low-cost health insurance was available to virtually everyone in America - including people with existing medical problems. Doctors made house calls. A hospital stay cost only a few days' pay. Charity hospitals were available to take care of families who could not afford to pay for healthcare.
Since then the federal government has increasingly intervened through Medicare, Medicaid, the HMO Act and tens of thousands of regulations on doctors, hospitals and health-insurance companies. Today, more than 50 percent of all healthcare dollars are spent by the government. Health insurance costs are skyrocketing. Government health programs are heading for bankruptcy. Politicians continue to pile on the regulations.
Socialism does not work; take a look at England, the taxes they pay: 40% on their wages, 17.5% on merchandise, and 84% on gas for what a healthcare system that people have to sit on waiting lists for 18 months to have an operation.
If you love your country and you believe in liberty, seriously do some research and don't listern to the main stream media on this issue. - My name is James and I am an English man living legally here in the USA.
Posted by: James | Nov 3, 2007 3:23:20 PM
TO THE DREAMING1: I guess you don't have much to say about the NHS in England!
ITS DOES NOT WORK! WHY HAVE SOMETHING IN AMERICA THAT DOES NOT WORK.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PAY:
40% + IN TAXES FROM YOUR WAGES
and then,
17.5% IN TAXES ON PURCHASES ON MERCHANDISE
and then,
84% YOU PAY ON A GALLON OF GAS IS TAX.
WHY? - PEASE TELL ME!
Posted by: James | Nov 3, 2007 4:12:07 PM
I love what I'm reading here. Great posts people. Keep it up.
Posted by: Edward | Nov 3, 2007 4:15:00 PM
Military elistment is at the lowest levels since the inception of the all volunteer army. Yet all the candidates (except Paul, Gravel and Kucinich) are talking about increasing our troop strength.
If you do not vote for Ron Paul you are essentially voting for the draft.
Wake up people. Look outside of your own little "gimme gimme" mentality and look where we're headed.
Posted by: Alexia | Nov 3, 2007 4:21:37 PM
Look up Japan baby dies emergency room on a news search engine.
Health care price controls led to shortages which leads to hospitals turning ambulances away.
The government has *never* given us a single program that functions properly! Why in the world should we give them permission to start another one?
If they were subcontractors, we would have fired them long ago.
Isn't insanity sometimes defined as the act of repeating the same mistake over and over again, yet expecting a different outcome?
Posted by: RandyMan | Nov 3, 2007 4:25:22 PM
LET LIBERTY REIGN.
Do yourself a favor & SAVE AMERICA.
Posted by: James | Nov 3, 2007 4:25:24 PM
If he doesn't know the difference between local, state and federal Goverments I don't think anyone has that kind of time to explain it here in a fashion that he this person would be able to understand.
Posted by: Patriot | Nov 3, 2007 4:29:20 PM
On Ron Paul. Hillary is the same as GWB; both want war, both owned by corporations; both liars. She claims to be the voice of change but she is only more of the same. The other Republican candidates can't hold a candle to the honesty of Ron Paul.
Posted by: DavidSanchez | Nov 3, 2007 5:00:36 PM
People need to grow up and start taking responsibility for their own health, their own economics and their own politics. Consider how much money you will save in 2009 when Ron Paul outlaws the IRS and income tax.
Posted by: FocusLiberty | Nov 3, 2007 5:07:19 PM
For me, it's not nearly as much about the money as it is about government controlling our lives. Spying on us under the guise of security.
Posted by: DavidSanchez | Nov 3, 2007 5:09:46 PM
If Ron Paul doesn't win... one day in the near future, we will have to vote from the roof tops!!!
Posted by: Sam | Nov 3, 2007 5:18:06 PM
What we have to fear of a Ron Paul Presidency?
-Being able to keep our earned income and using it to stimulate the local economy where we live.
-Being able to afford healthcare without all the bureaucratic red tape adding to the cost of every bandage provided by a doctor’s office.
-A stronger economic system that encourages a free market society rather than a heavily burdened governmental control that produces waste and higher prices.
-A private sector that produces more goods and services at affordable prices better than any government agency has ever been able to produce.
-A stronger State government that is more aptly able to represent the people on a local level without interference by the Federal government.
-Having our local schools run by local administration without people in Washington believing they know better than our communities do about our children’s education.
-A stronger, defensive armed forces that is here at home where they should be and not strung out all over the world.
-A more advantageous trading policy with countries around the world that give no preference to goods coming into our country and does not penalize US companies when trading abroad.
-A foreign policy of diplomacy that encourages other countries to emulate us rather than dictating to them how we think they should govern themselves.
-Personal Freedom as it was intended to be.
So do I fear Ron Paul becoming President? No, I fear for our country if he does not become President.
Posted by: amttaylor | Nov 3, 2007 5:21:59 PM
sayNO2drno...you think that a man who delivered 4000 babies, was a doctor for years, and is one of the most finanically responsible candidates we have ever seen would be against those things? You couldnt be more wrong if you tried.
Dr. Paul is THE only candidate in 2008 (or for the recent past) who is responsible, trustworth, and will actually do good for the country.
Posted by: Brian | Nov 3, 2007 5:22:34 PM
Oh, one more thing. With Ron Paul as President we'll finally have a moral, honest man who actually does what he says he'll do, knows his mind and keeps his word. WOW, what a concept.
Posted by: amttaylor | Nov 3, 2007 5:31:11 PM
Our nation was founded by a small group of ideologically motivated radicals who like those conspirators on that fateful day were willing to fight, to kill, and to die for the cause of intellectual, social, and economic liberty in the face of tyranny and oppression.
They too by modern standards were in some ways deeply flawed, and very much products of their time, with all that involved.
November 5th symbolizes this defiant, revolutionary spirit in the face of oppression, corruption, and tyranny that drives us still today as we now act through non-violent means to ignite a symbolic explosion of freedom across the bow of the political establishment to set the hearts and minds of the nation on fire with the cause of liberty.
And it is a symbol that can not be hijacked like the false patriotism of candidates like Giuliani, Thompson, and Clinton.
Remember, remember, the 5th of November!
Posted by: dircha | Nov 3, 2007 5:37:07 PM



