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Clinton Addresses Likeability Issue
December 17, 2007 11:44 PM
From ABC's Eloise Harper and Kate Snow: Most people don’t have the guts to ask Sen. Hillary Clinton the question David Dickey asked late Monday at the Antique Car Museum in Coralville, Iowa.
But it’s been bothering Dickey a lot lately, so -- though he admits he was a bit nervous -- he went ahead and launched it.
“I know a lot of people" the questioner began "they just, for some reason don’t like you,” he said. “I like you,” he added quickly. But what could she do about all the rest? All those people who just plain don’t like the woman?
“There are people who would never vote for me,” Clinton replied. “Breaks my heart. But it is true.”
“If you’ve been fighting for the causes you believe in and taking on tough special interests as long as I have, you’re gonna get beat up,” she continued. “There are some people who will never agree with me.”
Some she said, even make a living being anti-Hillary. "Some of the folks the talking heads on radio and tv, you know the ratings dip a little bit, well you know they've got a hard core that always responds to going after me, they can make a little money off me.. " Clinton continued, “I have created so many jobs and wealth,” she joked to applause.
Clinton argued that if people get to know her -- as many did in upstate New York when she was running for Senate in 2000 -- they might change their minds about her.
“They saw me for the first time as somebody who was a person, not a caricature,” she said.
She also argued that whoever the Democratic nominee is will have “high negatives” as soon as they’re selected. At least she, she said, has already been vetted.
“I’ve been through this. A lot,” Clinton deadpanned. “I know how it works.”
Clinton then launched into a detailed list of her supporters: "I'm running against three senators and one former senator. None of them have more than one other senator supporting them. I have nine." Clinton also said "we have to win ohio to win the election. The governor of Ohio endorsed me."
“These are not politicians on a suicide mission,” she said.
But Dickey wasn’t completely sold.
“I’m leaning toward Obama,” he said after the event. The 25-year-old from Iowa City said he’d been to two Clinton events now, two Obama events and had seen Edwards once.
Yes, he does “like” the Senator. He wasn’t just saying that to be nice.
But he worries that she might not be electable if too many other people simply don’t like her.
“It does sway me,” Dickey said.
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Dickey is worried about me and other members of the Democratic base who could not be counted on to vote for Hillary. She is utterly unauthentic. I read that today she cried (on cue) at an event staged to showcase her softer side. I think she'd say or do anything to get the job, and I have no idea what she'd do if she got it.
Posted by: Drew Rocker | Dec 18, 2007 1:05:39 AM
Seriously at what point do people finally say the hell with these candidates..they're all the same..they need endorsements from celebrities(oprah), to has been celebrities(noris), they play these stupid games for the camera, like crying on cue(clinton) to picking up a phone call from his now third wife(rudy) while at an n.r.a. speech..you have one candidate who slapped anyone who is going through aids or dealt with the pain of having a loved one go through it(huckabee), every candidate is a politician first...its time to change things, it doesnt matter if we republican or democrat congress..we need someone in the white house who can actually whip the congress into working for the people...enough is enough america, vote for the only true patriot running for office..its time for another R3VOLUTION....its time for Ron Paul
Posted by: charlie | Dec 18, 2007 1:40:13 AM
"But he worries that she might not be electable if too many other people simply don’t like her." I wonder why the other democratic candidates have not talked about the on-going lawsuit regarding illegal fundraising activity as revealed in the video "Hillary Uncensored" on youtube? Maybe that is the reason people don't like her.
Posted by: Greg | Dec 18, 2007 1:55:06 AM
Re Dickey's salient point about Hillary simply being "not liked" (and, more importantly, NOT TRUSTED!):
Do you think it's just a coincidence that Hillary's poll numbers have gone DOWN and Barack's have gone UP sharply in the 2 states where each has spent the most personal time and where voters have actually HAD A CHANCE TO JUDGE THEM UP CLOSE AND PERSONALLY?
I suspect this is a testament to the sound "gut instinct" of the American voter -- as being illustrated conclusively in Iowa and New Hampshire right now.
Thank you, Iowa. Thank you, New Hampshire. Your personal "radar detectors" are working well in judging what's at a person's CORE CHARACTER. Spread the word. America depends on you! -- Janet
Posted by: Janet | Dec 18, 2007 4:42:47 AM
The M-E-D-I-A, including ABC, is ELECTING THE PRESIDENT FOR THE US!!!!! They are using YOUR STUPIDITY against you. Hillary is just as "LIKABLE" as Huckabee, who says "a woman should SUBMIT WILLINGLY to a husband". That right there would TURN ME OFF, big time. Or Guilliani, who looks and acts like a MOBSTER and has has MULTIPLE "outside" romances while married, Romney, who believes a cult-like religion, McCain who is so old, he will be senile before his term is through (I.E. Ronald Regan). I am here to tell you folks, I DON'T L-I-K-E ANY OF THESE OLD FUDDY DUDDY'S. OH MY GOSH, what a MOTLEY CREW, the M-E-D-I-A has paraded before us to choose from. Hillary looks GREAT compared to these N-I-T-W-I-T-S. I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY.
Posted by: Iam Avoter | Dec 18, 2007 9:25:17 AM
Hillary is strong and capable. It's not about "like." As far as her polls go, she is still way ahead in the Super Tuesday states. If she loses Iowa and New Hampshire, she will still go on. People need to look, really look, at her record of service. The mainstream media is becoming a gossip circuit and not a real source for the news of record. Hillary is the right choice for America.
Posted by: Christopher C. | Dec 18, 2007 9:29:38 AM
I'm getting sick and tired to hear potential voters ranting about this candidate and that candidate being bad politicians or they are not likeable, not trustworthy, etc. Are these comments based on facts or just emotions? How could you decide on something like that by just attending some rallies? I didn't get to know some of my coworkers well enough even after working closely for 5 years!
Let's focus on the issues! Go to the websites of the candidates and look at their plans carefully would be a good start. Election is not a popularity contest, is it? Sady, it may well be.
Posted by: Rick | Dec 18, 2007 9:30:46 AM
I guess she is now going for the "I'm so hurt that people don't AGREE with me" strategy. Pretty desperate. It's not "HILLary Haters", but HILLary opposers of her allegiance to ideologies of Chavez, Castro, and Ahmadinejad. Also, opposer to the ARRAGANCE she and Bill has to think the "Obama is not ready for the white house" and that "he is a muslim". Also, opposers of Bill's rape and abuse of women. I think that has brought her down. She did not win the nomination because without the women vote and black votes, she coul not do it. HILLary has LOST the nomination.
GO OBAMA! (the real First Black President)
Posted by: pedro | Dec 18, 2007 9:37:09 AM
Come on Bill! You don't even like her.
Your marriage is a fascade and everyone that ever worked in the White House knows that!
Posted by: hklm21 | Dec 18, 2007 9:42:40 AM
Come on guys what the heck is going on?? Are we crying to the press or what?? sob sob I am not liked by some people!! sob sob!! This is what you want for a president?? (SCENARIO) She meets with a foriegn leader and you want her to SOB SOB tell the leader in heavy negotiations that that leader has to do it her way SOB SOB!! or she will stomp her foot and break a heal SOB SOB!!
Posted by: Jim Rod | Dec 18, 2007 9:46:05 AM
The likeability issue is one that every democrat needs to consider. I respect Hillary, but how can she possibly win a general election when half of the population already says they would NEVER vote for her?? Come on, people. Vote smart. A vote for Hillary is a vote for 4-8 more years of Bushlike polarism and hate.
Posted by: Evan | Dec 18, 2007 9:54:51 AM
I'm not worried about Hillary destroying this country, with more than 54% of all voters who will not vote for her, and that number keeps going up.
Posted by: Patriot 2007 | Dec 18, 2007 9:57:47 AM
In my city, we have a
conservative GOP talk show host.
During one long anti Hilliary
monologue, he made the emphatic
statement, "I hate Hillary".
This fellow has never met
Hillary; has never seen her in
person and all he knows about
her is from the media and the
tabloids. Yet he very much hates
her.
There are many right wing talk
show hosts who encourage this
but they are in the same boat.
I simply cannot understand how
someone can hate someone they
never met or had contact with.
Posted by: Beto | Dec 18, 2007 9:58:00 AM
I don't think Hillary or Obama have much of anything this country needs. They talk about Obama being a "Star". Politicians and Politics shouldn't be a variety show where you can be a "Star". We don't need another entertainer in the white house. We need someone with the ability to make economic, social and international policy. To enforce that policy and defend the constitution.
Has anyone seen anybody running that even comes close to having the education, experience or ##### to do that? I haven't.
Posted by: Don | Dec 18, 2007 9:58:14 AM
RICK: It is a fact that Billy Boy had extra activities going on under his desk while he was talking on the phone to a foriegn leaders. How much more fact do you want? It is a fact that he let OSAMA go!! It is a fact that Hillary was put down by health care corporations while they accepted donations. It is a fact that Hillary quoted she did talk to Bill about issues. Maybe she new about Osama or bill's girlfreind and condoned it?
You want the people who got caught disgracing the most powerful office in the world back?? Don't say Bush here. Carter was the worst of all!! and still is disgracing the title!!
Posted by: Jim Rod | Dec 18, 2007 9:58:18 AM
I don't like her simply because I can tell she is not genuine. She has taken cargo-loads of money from the PAC's and then slaps us back for questioning her about it. It is clear she will do or say anything to anyone to get the job. She also will not put an end to this war. She flip-flopped about it when she realized how she could use the fear card to tell people there is some kind of moral justification in keeping our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan as shooting practice for the wars between there own people there. I really don't see a difference between her and Bush and I feel that Bush has been the worst president in history!
I have switched parties from Dem to GOP.
It is time for a r3VOLution! It is time for Ron Paul!
Posted by: Ethan | Dec 18, 2007 10:00:45 AM
Both Clinton's are fake. Both stated they decided early in their marriage to pursue the presidency. Ask Hillary why she wants to be president. She is power hungry just like her husband. She proved this during his presidency by her actions such as firing white house staff for no reason and taking a position of authority in the white house which she had no right to do. Both are irresponsible. He proved by his actions with Monica, the lies in court and his allowing a fat, aging communist cuban president named Castro to set foot in this country and push him around and take Elian Gonzales back to Cuba. Clintons were a failure then as they are now. Remember their years as president and if you want four more of it, then go ahead and vote for her. I won't!!
Posted by: Ed Love | Dec 18, 2007 10:03:17 AM
Both Clinton's are fake. Both stated they decided early in their marriage to pursue the presidency. Ask Hillary why she wants to be president. She is power hungry just like her husband. She proved this during his presidency by her actions such as firing white house staff for no reason and taking a position of authority in the white house which she had no right to do. Both are irresponsible. He proved by his actions with Monica, the lies in court and his allowing a fat, aging communist cuban president named Castro to set foot in this country and push him around and take Elian Gonzales back to Cuba. Clintons were a failure then as they are now. Remember their years as president and if you want four more of it, then go ahead and vote for her. I won't!!
Posted by: Ed Love | Dec 18, 2007 10:04:08 AM
Come one, people! The reason she is getting so much attention is because the GOP knows she can actually WIN!!---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The GOP doesn't even like any of their candidates. But many, MANY, Democrats actually WILL vote for Hillary. And the Dems take the White House in '08!
Posted by: Angulo | Dec 18, 2007 10:10:05 AM
SOMETIMES IN LIFE A SLICE OF A CAKE IS ENOUGH AND SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR ANY PERSON.BUT THE TROUBLE IS NOT HAVING ENOUGH-OUT-OF-SOMETHING IS WHAT IS CAUSING HILLARLY AND BILL ALL THESE UN-NECESSARY STRESSES.THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY THEY NEED IN THE WORLD,BUT CANT JUST GET IT.IN LIFE THERE ARE SEASONS AND TO EVERY SEASON THERE IS A NEW SEASON,YOU CAN DO ANYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO WIN SOMETHING,BUT IF IT IS NOT YOUR SEASON IT WILL FLOP MISERABLY!! BUT IT IS BETTER TO QUIT WITH DIGNITY THAN WITH SHAME. INDEED IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THIS IS OBAMA'S SEASON.
Posted by: nason | Dec 18, 2007 10:10:20 AM
I do not vote for a candidate because I like them as a person. I don't vote for them because they express the same religious beliefs that I do. I don't vote for them because I think they'd be a cool person to hang out and have a few beers with. I am voting for someone to have the intelligence, capability, strength and willingness to do the job. I am not voting for a best friend or a talk show host, but someone who is able to look at issues like how to deal with Al Qaeda and deal with a stumbling economy. It's rather pathetic how voters can be so immature and whine that a candidate is not "likeable". Truthfully, I don't care that Hillary can seem robotic or overly ambitious. I just know that she can do the job. In the end, that is all that matters.
Posted by: Ravanne | Dec 18, 2007 10:15:14 AM
There are a lot of people who hate people of other races having never got to know them. Why??? It's hard to explain. And what do we call them. Racists.
There are people who hate Hillary for obviously the same lack of reasons.
Both type of hate have their roots in the same place. I wonder how many of these people who hate Hillary for no reason other than it makes them feel part of a larger groups are actually closest rasists.
Unlike those of you who hate just to hate, I actually want to vote for someone who I feel can be a good if not great president. I feel Hillary is one of those. As well as Obama, Edwards, Paul and McCain.
I feel we have a great group of Presidential Candidate this time if we can get down to issues and judge those running on that.
Posted by: Roy | Dec 18, 2007 10:18:34 AM
Dont hide the truth.She isnt liked not because she is a bad person. What we hear is that she is a ruthless fighter, ready to destroy anyone that stands on her way.
She is about to lose IO,NH,SC all bc people sometimes want to punish her for inordinate ambitions to get her way.
As an independent this is what I hate. Trying to destroy your opponent instead of beating him on issues. Mr Obama right now has demonstrated the greatest level of leadership during his campaigns.
No slander, no negativity but contrastting issues with his opponents.Thats what politics should be.
Hilary if u finnaly lose blame your ego.
Posted by: EE | Dec 18, 2007 10:24:14 AM
It breaks Hillary's heart that people don't like her, but not quite enough that she won't take her party down to defeat to satisfy her ambition. Some people might not like the way that she played her base by voting for the war, then opposing it, but somehow still denigrating the people who voted against it. Some people might not be impressed by her effort to reform Healthcare which she conducted under a Democratic President and Democratically controlled Congress, but somehow managed to cover 0 (Zero, zip, zilch) more Americans than when she started. Some people might not call that a successful effort. Some people might believe that someone (actually anyone) could have been more successful given those conditions. However, Hillary is rich. She does have a helicopter. So isn't that what really matters. I mean, why pick someone new who might strike bipartisan compromises and move the country forward, when we can coronate Hillary and really stick it to the other side. Besides Hillary is a woman. We have to elect her or no woman will ever get a chance. I mean, there are only 8 women Governors and 16 women Senators and only a few dozen women members of the House, so no one else is even remotely qualified. Besides all this negative feeling directed toward Clinton is completely someone else's fault, not her own. Hillary is perfect and without any mortal failings. Just do as your told and vote for her, or else she'll get you! :)
Posted by: Sean O'Brien | Dec 18, 2007 10:25:54 AM
If you are a presidential candidate that has nothing to offer and you want to win. DON'T TALK ISSUES. Get the voting populace to hate your opponent. Best way to do it. It worked in 2000 and 2004 and what did we get!!!
So think twice if hate is gonna determine who you will vote for. You can do this country a service and stay home on election day.
Posted by: Roy | Dec 18, 2007 10:33:59 AM
We have an intense dislike of anyone that feel is not genuine, and pursues an objective at all costs. If the person is perceived as calculating or has a hidden agenda, we won't like him/her. If we perceive someone as taking an unfair advantage of others, we tend to loathe them. My comments are that I don't like Hillary because she's calculating, distrustful, deceitful, hateful, destructive, phony, conniving, and irresponsible.
Posted by: Getalife | Dec 18, 2007 10:36:21 AM
What has liking a person do with her being a president? I dont paticularely like my boss but I think she's very much capable of doing her job. As with Hillary I believe she is very much capable of doing her job as president of the united state's. She will get my vote!!
Posted by: Jeanette | Dec 18, 2007 10:37:55 AM
Jeanette: As I do you have the right to vote for whom ever. I have not truly decided. help me decide!! You state Hillary is capable. Now tell us how? What has she done for NY? What bill has she sponsered and got passed? Be carefull here Hillary was already caught in a lie.
Why is ahe qualified? what has she done? who did she help in NY? how has she voted on tax issues? how will she lower and balance the budget further? will I pay more taxes for her plans? what are her plans? (I have heard none) You never know you may cause me to vote for her so help me!!
Posted by: Jim Rod | Dec 18, 2007 10:49:42 AM
We should be choosing a president on the basis of integrity, honesty and the ability to do the job. Like or not like should not be a part of it.
Posted by: Brian G. | Dec 18, 2007 10:52:58 AM
It's not just those who hate Senator Hillary. It's a small but growing number of Americans who are taught to hate through the demagoguery of limbautimized minds and evangelical phony Christianity...to promote hate against people they have not even met. We must ignore their imagined fears in order to promote the grand American experiment, a successful melting pot of people from all corners of the globe.
Posted by: newz4i | Dec 18, 2007 10:57:31 AM
I can't understand why the Republicans don't like her! She's more Republican than the candidates the Republican Party is running. She even said in a speech on Sept. 21, 2001 "I'll stand behind Bush for a long time to come." If that's not a Republican statement, then what is it?
Posted by: steve | Dec 18, 2007 11:09:54 AM
Hillary`s only proven experience is as an enabler. Of course she did a great job for N Y, how elce could she get the chance to run for president? As for her judgement, after admiting that Bush can`t be trusted in light of his war of choice in Iraq, she voted to give him the authority to invade Iran. Hillary Clinton a leader of proven capability to screw up from day one!
Posted by: Luke | Dec 18, 2007 11:11:01 AM
Hillary is beating or tied with lead Republicans in Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee and Virginia. I worry about how well Barack Obama will do in these states that have been red in the past two elections.
Posted by: BenMurphyNYC | Dec 18, 2007 11:17:58 AM
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton????
man...I cant sneez, i need a breath of fresh air...
Please guys, vote for change.
Hillary. I dont hate you...I just want change.
Posted by: msnz911 | Dec 18, 2007 11:20:25 AM
The women that hate her, do so because she didn't divorce Bill - something they should do in their lives: get rid of their husbands. The men that hate her, do so because they can not deal with women in authority figures - hence, the "I hate my Mommy" syndrome. It's all nothing but B.S. More Spoiled dumb Americans with their heads up their backsides! Ya know, like the Bushies of 2000 and especially 2004!
Posted by: BronxBoy7117 | Dec 18, 2007 11:24:02 AM
And until our facist right wing - middle country - freak religion - God Fearing - trash of the yester-year culture changes, politics will never. WE CAN NOT RELIVE THE 50s - get it! Start a new.
Posted by: BronxBoy7117 | Dec 18, 2007 11:25:54 AM
Don: Thanks! I finally understand some of this logic. Hillary and Bill are the same person!
>RICK: It is a fact that Billy Boy had ?>extra activities going on under his >desk while he was talking on the phone >to a foriegn leaders. How much more >fact do you want?
Posted by: Rick | Dec 18, 2007 11:45:18 AM
ALL THE WAY WITH HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: zach | Dec 18, 2007 11:48:21 AM
Beto,
Are you really that naive? Of course you can hate someone you've never met! If your child was 'hurt' by some strager you might well hate them, for example. Likewise, you might hate the policies of some canadidate (and intturn, the person) whose position you see as thriving on tearing apart the country and so on...
Posted by: hummm | Dec 18, 2007 11:50:01 AM
BronxBoy117: I don't like her because of all the under the table and deceitful acts she has committed. Just do some research. Cattle Futures(Refco), Castle Grande, Whitewater, Travelgate, Norman Hsu, Jim McDougal, Vince Foster, Madison Guaranty, Health Management Associates etc., etc., etc.!!!!! I like Obama, but I won't vote for inexperience, but I think he would be a great Supreme Court Justice. If either of these two get the nomination, I'm voting Republican even though I never have.
Posted by: steve | Dec 18, 2007 11:51:10 AM
Very well said Ravanne! Let me go further to say that we all should look at each candidate objectively, whether or not the candidate is a Democat or Republican.
This is no football game. We all still have our common sense, don't we?
>I do not vote for a candidate because >I like them as a person...
Posted by: Rick | Dec 18, 2007 11:55:00 AM
Obama is a far better person than Hillary in my opinion, but the democrats will choose who they will and I believe it will be Hillary.
Posted by: TexBork | Dec 18, 2007 11:59:51 AM
Bill Clinton claims that if we vote for Barack "it's a roll of the dice". Well, Billy boy, I would rather roll the dice with Obama, than play 'RUSSIAN ROULETTE" with Hillary.
Posted by: WashingtonPete | Dec 18, 2007 12:00:01 PM
I am a young black male who will be voting for Hilary. The inexperience in a difficult world right now bothers me about Obama. He can't win against the republicans, she can! They all lie about what they are going to do or can't get the votes to do it. I'll take the experienced liar. Thanks
Posted by: Ray | Dec 18, 2007 12:09:16 PM
Hillary has completely failed to make the case that one reason Republicans dislike her so much is that she has a strong, consistent record of beating them at the polls, and beating them badly. Why does she refuse to argue that point? That fact that she knows how to defeat Republicans is one of her strongest selling points. The fact that she knows how to win against Republicans is one of the strongest reasons why she should receive the Democratic nomination. Why won't she make that point?
Posted by: Leon Miller | Dec 18, 2007 12:13:12 PM
Hillary and Edawards voted for the war, that means bad judgment they can not be good presidents.We don't want a fighter we need some one who can bring the country together to solve problem.Hillary is a big liar ..Obama is real....
Posted by: Allen | Dec 18, 2007 12:14:04 PM
David Dickey ,who is swayed by the opinions of others,is NOt the typical voter.I doubt if he will exercise his vote at all because of the diverse opinions of the others about all the candidates.
Posted by: pickleramoji | Dec 18, 2007 12:19:28 PM
TEXBORK- You are about as Corny as they come! I'll bet you are chuckling to yourself over your "clever"(not) wit!! I can see Rush Limbaugh and Chris Matthews are your heroes. And they hate Hillary for no other reason except that they can! Hillary will be damned no matter what by narrow minded fools and their followers! Even if She performed a miracle in a crowd of millions You and the media fat-heads would call her a liar, a fake, a cheat. I can see why my daughter feels so belittled by sexist men in this world. She knows there are too many like you in this world- who get a chuckle out of hurting women!!
Posted by: lori | Dec 18, 2007 12:24:28 PM
What a coincidence. Just in the past few days there have been stories about Hillary addressing the "likability" factor, and now she gets the question at one of her sham forums.
The people who don't like her are the ones able to see thru her phoniness to her angry, manipulative, dishonest and criminal core. The only people who like her are the blindly partisan, the ignorant and the naive. She's counting on these three groups to get her into the white house.
Posted by: squeenter squillo | Dec 18, 2007 12:29:08 PM
WHo cares if it breaks her heart, that isn't an issue. The issue is crediblity and experiance. She has DONE NOTHING to prove she can do what she promises. She is a fraud and has illusions of grandeour..poor woman.
Posted by: Mike Avery | Dec 18, 2007 12:36:25 PM
can't understand all these people who take such a pompous, anti-hillary stance. i just don't know anyone else in the democratic party who can govern strongly, work harder, promote universal health care for ALL americans and has such a respected standing in the world as hillary clinton. edwards is a has-been, obambi needs to serve & learn more and while the other candidates are respectable, i just don't see anyone as strong as clinton.
Posted by: mikel | Dec 18, 2007 12:52:11 PM
You actually think that it's a bad thing to have your opinion swayed by other people's opinions? I think that is one of the major problems with George Bush. He does not get swayed and sticks with what he believes even if it's wrong. Also, I will definitely be voting, I just haven't made my mind up yet about who I will caucus for.
Posted by: David Dickey | Dec 18, 2007 1:03:09 PM
As if she had a heart. I sense that she's as cold blooded as her husband and every expression she projects, every word that comes out of her mouth is calculated, tailored to play to whatever audience she is in front of. I surely hope she's unelectable. Most people can see through her deceptive demeanor. The Democratic party leaders seem to think that the Republican party is so weak that this is their chance to enthrone a woman or black man no matter who their candidate opposes. I don't think the American public is stupid enough to follow up on the play of any reverse trump card. Neither Hillary nor Obama is electable based on patriotic leadership capabilities and the public will back me on this one at the polls.
Posted by: KOOBLAKHAN | Dec 18, 2007 1:06:56 PM
lori, Wow! You came out swinging! Actually, I don't listen to Limbaugh or Matthews. Radios don't even work in my building, so I really can't tune in anyway. I do get to listen to some talk shows though on my Sirius radio in my car to and from work and sometimes during lunch. I flip around alot from local NPR, KUT in Austin, to conservative WOAI out of San Antonio. On Sirius, Mike Church, Alex Bennett (who's a little too vulgar for me at times), Ed Shultz (who's pretty darn good), Lynn Samuels, (who's insane, but funny), and I was fascinated with Randi Rhodes (who’s far more insane than Lynn and also far more entertaining, but I can’t find her show anymore.) Right now, one of my favorite shows is “Make It Plain” with Mark Thompson. He’s a progressive, but I like his open forum and the fact that he’s unashamed of his religion and will speak about it. He’s on every afternoon on my way home. I keep trying to call in, but the line is always busy. You are correct about one thing though. I am as corny as they come. Still, I don't make stuff up about Hillary. No need to. There's plenty there already. Much like many other candidates. I still think she's going to win the nomination, so unless I am misunderstanding you, I think we can agree that she will win the nomination.
Posted by: TexBork | Dec 18, 2007 1:14:57 PM
All the above having been said, I don't hate Hillary or Barack. I feel sorry for them because they actually think they are popular.They actually think they can get people to vote for them based on reverse sexual or racial prejudice and some misguided individuals will fall for it, thinking things will get better for themselves. Newsflash! If you want thing to get better for yourself, do something to
help yourself. Don't expect either of these candidates to help you because to them it's all about them, not you or our country.
Posted by: KOOBLAKHAN | Dec 18, 2007 1:23:56 PM
s it goes very few people know hillary because she lives a some what secluded and secretive life. Voting for her or not has nothing to do with liking her. It hillary's politics that most polple dislike about her. I don't feel she is honest or trustworthy.
Posted by: William F. E. | Dec 18, 2007 1:43:31 PM
The reason I will never vote for Hillary is because she tries to make us believe she had nothing to do with the various crimes her husband committed while governor of Arkansas. See "The Clinton Chronicles", it is over 1+ hours of facts. Drug smuggling, sex and murder, many in MSM knew these facts since the 80's put kept them from the voters. Yes, I have fear, now that I viewed this film. I don't know what they might do to Sen. Obama to get back in the White House. They are desperate and vicious. I pray he stays safe and ask God to dispatch angels to his side throughout the primary season. I counted 25 dead in that film. Hell, I'm scared for me and my family. How did Bill get so POWERFUL?
Posted by: JACKIE, BATON ROUGE | Dec 18, 2007 2:18:59 PM
JACKIE, I've seen the Clinton Chronicles. Be a little skeptical. It can't all be true, but some of it might be. There seems to be too many coincidental things that are presented as honest facts. To be sure, the film really raises questions about the Clinton’s character, but still don’t fall for everything presented in that film.
Posted by: TexBork | Dec 18, 2007 2:31:08 PM
Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war.
Posted by: Bill H | Dec 18, 2007 2:50:50 PM
Are people who believe things like "The Clinton Chronicles" actually allowed to vote? Now, that's really scary!
Posted by: Leon Miller | Dec 18, 2007 2:51:10 PM
Leon Miller, I didn't even think that thing was still around. It's over a decade old and wasn't well known even then. I was thinking even then, "Oh come on! I can't beleive my buddy (Tom) even bought this thing and believes in it enough to want me to see it." It's about as truthful as anything from Michael Moore, but not the least bit funny at all.
Posted by: TexBork | Dec 18, 2007 2:57:00 PM
I don't know Hillary personally,however I do like and admire her..she's come through the most humiliating public ordeals that a person should never have to go through,and stood proud. Why she would ever want to be President only God knows..he also knows she's the only person running that can do the job..the people who just don't like her have some personal issues that they need to address before they can make a sound judgement against Hillary..Men don't like her because they know she's smarter than they are..women don't like her because their men don't like her..that tells you where they're lives are at..!!! VOTE FOR HILLARY !!!!`
Posted by: szelag19 | Dec 18, 2007 3:30:53 PM
As a 38 year old black woman, I am furious at the Clintons for trying to be slick and use race based attacks on Obama. The Clintons have used blacks for years to solidify their power! I hope blacks are finally seeing that the Democratic party can be just as racists as the Republicans. They could have attacked him on policy issues. The clintons are not real friends of black people.
Posted by: Lisa Hampton | Dec 18, 2007 3:44:59 PM
SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON IS GOING TO MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT.
Posted by: john | Dec 18, 2007 3:53:19 PM
Not unlike Dickey, me too have a lot of friends and acquantances that simply do not like Hillary - NO simply and utterly hate her. HOWEVER, I have yet to hear a valid reason for their dislike or hatred. Most offer the reason of: "Because" and no words after, the 2nd most popular (but a very poor 2nd) reason offered is: "just something about her". Others actually offered legible reasons from Whitewater, the commodities profits, the legal billing memos, firing of Whitehouse travel employees, and universal health care failure. By the way, it would be interesting to note that many others have worse charges and they are not hated for it as much as Hillary is hated - like intentionally lying to the public about WMD causing thousands of American lives and billions of tax dollars. And by the way, each of the charges levied on Hillary so far have all been proven to be nothing.
I have a theory: could it be that Hillary is right? The Ann Colters and Rush L., etc. that allow their callers to rattle on and throw incorrect and false charges without being corrected - instead encouraged. They can't even be sued for libel because it's not them that said it. It was this unknown person caller Clinton hater neocon. Most listeners are naive and stupid. They do not validate the statements and take the falsehoods as the truth. These people get indoctrinated (brainwashed) that they become so blind to the truth. These are the people that say: "If Hillary gets elected I'm moving out of this country".
I'm not a rich man, but I've contributed to Hillary's cause primarily because I have learned to trust her and just to see these people leave our country and go to Iraq or Afghanistan.
Posted by: Jing | Dec 18, 2007 3:54:03 PM
its simple ,but the american voters' limited mentality wont allow objective reasoning ,ergo they elect ( for arguably the most important job in the world) an actor who made movies with a monkey and a draft dodging rich kid...go figure.
any democrat who does not vote for hillary clinton this next election is basically a traitor to the democratic party . she is ,if not more qualified to be president, just as qualified as obama. so,i guess my question is; why nominate someone who has 0 chance to win against the republicans and whose nomination will likely make it even EASIER for them to stay in the oval office for another 4 horrible years?
again,go figure...
the problem with obama is that he is POSITIVELY DEFINITELY UNELECTABLE in the southern states that the democrats NEED to win the white house .dont any of you kids and minority voters understand the american electoral college method of voting? you need to read up on it so you will understand why obama has NO chance to be president, no matter how much you want him to. sorry but thats the facts .
Posted by: bah | Dec 18, 2007 4:19:58 PM
obama has the kids vote (the ones who arent ron paul brainwashed that is) and the minority vote. thats it. thats all he has . so go check your american election history , youll quickly find that that kind/amount of (limited and immature) support wont carry the big day vs the republican electoral candidate ,of that you can be most assured.i have seen it happen many times,and that republican utopian scenario is unfolding once again ,like a bad dream.
ALL democrats need to vote for hillary , if for no other reason than to make 100% sure there is a democratic president for the next 4 years. anything else plays right into the republicans' best wishes and they are desperately hoping for someone like obama to divide the once united democrats into 2 or more camps that will not support the other(s).
make no mistake ,this is no high school popularity contest, the future of this nation , in doubt as it is, is up for grabs in 2008. make SURE you ,as a democrat, understand the implications of your immature support of an unelectable candidate , because when the republicans win and you are guaranteed another 4 years of the same old ,same old...you will have only yourself to blame.
Posted by: bah | Dec 18, 2007 4:21:26 PM
Throughout history the great ones have always been misunderstood .. and I think this aptly applies to Hillary Clinton. But as she moves forward into the presidency of the United States, I firmly believe she will do great things for this country to such a degree that her critics will be shamed.
Posted by: Jackson | Dec 18, 2007 4:28:52 PM
Robert Morrow, Wow! She sounds like she's got a heart like Dick Cheney! How can people not liking her break a heart she doesn't have?
Posted by: TexBork | Dec 18, 2007 4:58:52 PM
Well Hillary,Chelsa,Nixon, Johnson,Kennedy and the whole white house clan just need their mouth's washed out with pure old lye soap.. now dont they? How silly to bring all that mess out. Who care's? I believe there is more to take care of in this country than to worry about the politition's dirty mouth's..
Posted by: Jeanette | Dec 18, 2007 6:32:33 PM
bah, That's me. You have me nailed down. You know me so well. I believe everything I hear or see. Yep.
Posted by: TexBork | Dec 18, 2007 6:35:13 PM
Wah Wah Wah - Crybaby - poor little woman can't take the heat - - ... What we –H-A-T-E- is liars' and ole –S-l-i-c-k- -W-i-l-l-a-r-y- and her side kick –S-l-i-c-k- -W-i-l-l-y- are the biggest - - - - or are all ya forgetting the day ole Bill Boy wag his finger at the American public on National TV and said that he didn’t have –s-e-x-u-a-l- relationship with “that woman”, Monica L, or “it depends what the meaning of “IS - - “IS” - - - heheheh - - - - - I want to know what she took out of Vince Foster’s Office after he committed suicide.
Posted by: FidoNY | Dec 18, 2007 7:27:16 PM
The M-E-D-I-A, including ABC, is ELECTING THE PRESIDENT FOR THE US!!!!! They are using YOUR STUPIDITY against you. Hillary is just as "LIKABLE" as Huckabee, who says "a woman should SUBMIT WILLINGLY to a husband". That right there would TURN ME OFF, big time. Or Guilliani, who looks and acts like a MOBSTER and has has MULTIPLE "outside" romances while married, Romney, who believes a cult-like religion, McCain who is so old, he will be senile before his term is through (I.E. Ronald Regan). I am here to tell you folks, I DON'T L-I-K-E ANY OF THESE OLD FUDDY DUDDY'S. OH MY GOSH, what a MOTLEY CREW, the M-E-D-I-A has paraded before us to choose from. Hillary looks GREAT compared to these N-I-T-W-I-T-S. I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY.
Posted by: Iam Avoter | Dec 18, 2007 9:25:17 AM
If you're going to sit her and call the people who support the individuals in this race with a longer number of years in office than your candidate, Hillary Clinton (only 7 years to Barack's 11 years), STUPID (our stupidity, look at yourself, Living in the White House gives you no experiance you can ask the chef!). It's sad for you to call the AMERICAN PEOPLE STUPID because they want REAL BRAND NEW CHANGE which all of the other candidates really offer but yours. GIVE ME A BREAK! This is exactly why I support and approve of all of the candidates, including some of the GOP candidates, before her. This is sad.
Posted by: Ayyub | Dec 18, 2007 7:43:34 PM
I find Obama to be utterly fake. He's too 'smooth operator'. He's fool's gold when it comes to leadership, saying the right things, but in the end I don't think he has the qualities to make a good president. And isn't that what we're supposed to be looking for?
Posted by: Tracy | Dec 18, 2007 7:43:48 PM
Hillary Clinton will make a GREAT President. All of these people on here who dislike her record should then dislike Obama since he's only piggy backed off of her every vote except for two instances: The Iraq War Authorization, which he wasnt in the senate to even vote on yet acts like he was(even though he said he didnt know how he would have voted) and secondly the vote to labe the Iranian Guard a Terrorist Organization. . .and thats because Obama didnt show up for the vote. Since when is being condescending and not doing his job a reason to vote for Obama? He's unelectable and will cost the democrats another election. Thats why it's important to vote for someone who not only talks about change but is an actual AGENT OF CHANGE, Hillary Clinton! VOTE FOR HILLARY, otherwise your vote for Obama is a vote for the next Republican President and a continuation of the Iraq War since Obama is a sure loser in the General Election.
Posted by: Sean | Dec 18, 2007 8:22:36 PM
This women doesn't get.
She (her handlers) will just sit down, crunch the number of votes it translates into, and figure out what she needs to say to gullible people to make up those lost votes.
This is why she is hated. This women doesn't get it!
Posted by: The Big D | Dec 18, 2007 9:41:07 PM
Hillary has a proven track record, experience, & good vision to be the next President. No one else running has been able to put forth a workable blueprint as to what they can really do to try to start to fix the mess Bush is leaving behind. Obama has elequent speech. But a 1st term senator just won't cut it in todays hairy mess. What has he done ? What did he do befor he was a senator ? I don't even know. Do you ? My vote goes for Hilla



