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Obama Campaign: We Welcome a Foreign Policy Debate

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December 27, 2007 2:26 PM

ABC News' Kate Snow and Sunlen Miller Reports: With seven days left to convince Iowa voters, Barack Obama's chief media strategist says he welcomes a renewed focus on foreign policy, in light of the death of Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan.

"Well, it puts on the table foreign policy judgment and that's a discussion we welcome," David Axelrod told reporters in Des Moines. "You know Barack Obama had the judgment to oppose the war in Iraq and he warned at the time that it would divert us from Afghanistan and Al Qaeda and now we see the effect of that."

Asked if coverage of Bhutto's death at this critical time in the Iowa campaign would play to Hillary Clinton's strengths in foreign policy, Axelrod countered with the "judgment" argument and again raised questions about Clinton's true foreign policy background.

"People need to judge where these candidates were and what they've said and what they've done on these issues. I mean, she was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq, which we would submit is one of the reasons why we were diverted from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Al Qaeda-- who may have been players in this event today.  So that's a judgment she'll have to defend," Axelrod said.

Axelrod also questioned Clinton's foreign policy resume, with a nod to Woody Allen.

"I know Woody Allen once said that eighty percent of life is just showing up, but actually there's more to being proficient in foreign policy than just having been around for a long time, you also have to have good judgment," Axelrod said.

Axelrod said he would not speculate about whether Clinton has -- in the words of a reporter -- "padded her foreign policy resume."  But he did say: "I don't think people are sitting there and counting the number of countries she visited as First Lady."

The Clinton campaign responded by suggesting Bhutto's death was being politicized.

"This is a time to be focused on the tragedy of the situation, its implications for the U.S. and the world, and to be concerned for the people of pakistan and the country's stability," Clinton spokesperson Jay Carson said. "No one should be politizing this situation with baseless allegations."

On stage just before delivering a new stump speech in Des Moines, Obama read a prepared statement about Bhutto's death.

After delivering the speech ABC News asked Obama what the appropriate American response to the death of Bhutto was.

"Well I think we mourn the family obviously and we want to stand with the people of Pakistan to focus on moving democracy forward and to focus on battling terrorism which has been obviously amassing in the entire region but also between the Afghanistan and Pakistan borders," Obama said.

In his speech Obama also briefly referenced his position on negotiating with leaders around the world, even if they are unfriendly to the U.S.  Senator Clinton once criticized that position as "naïve."

"I've spoken to Americans in every corner of the state, patriots all, who wonder why we have allowed our standing in the world to decline so badly, so quickly," Obama said. "They know this has not made us safer. They know that we must never negotiate out of fear, but that we must never fear to negotiate with our enemies as well as our friends."

At his second campaign event of the day in Nevada, Iowa, Obama announced that he called the State Department to get an update on the situation in Pakistan which he called "still a little dicey."

Apologizing for being 35 minutes late because of the briefing, Obama said, "I wanted to talk to the people in the State Department and intelligence and military operations to make sure I was updated on the situation, because it's still a little dicey."

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Yes! Bring it on. I know that Joe Biden would also welcome a Foreign Policy Debate. Now more than ever, we need someone with Senator Biden's experience AND judgement.

Posted by: Anne | Dec 27, 2007 2:53:01 PM

Today Axelrod says "You know Barack Obama had the judgment to oppose the war in Iraq and he warned at the time that it would divert us from Afghanistan and Al Qaeda and now we see the effect of that." Thatt sis not good judgment, that was a calculated move back then when he was running for the State Senate and was addressing a rally in the south Chicago, a very liberal district in the city and he is now lucky basking on it. Show us other moments of his good judgment? Like the times he skipped to vote on Iran? like the several times he has voted to fund the war he speaks so loud against it "from the beginning"? Axelrod talks about Obama's judgment, sure..where has he been on the big issues where he has always voted PRESENT or sneaked around at the last minute or avoid the vote so he can use his position to attack other candidates.
No matter how much Obama's strategist or big money supporters spent the millinions of dollars trying to portrait him like the leader of change, they know that the vast majority of people don't buy it. Axelrod is a dishonest man that has been the strategist for the Daley campaign and corrupt Chicago political machine but as much as he has succeeded in Chicago he will not succeeds bring a light weighted, inexperienced smiley candidate to win the Presidency of the United States.
Obama is a phony and should not be elected!

Posted by: Mark | Dec 27, 2007 2:57:08 PM

Obama needs to grow up and get rid of that swagger he has. Every time he takes the stage he has this swagger
that says to me that he thinks he is better than everyone else in the room.He is a phony and I cant believe that people are falling for it.

Posted by: benj | Dec 27, 2007 2:57:16 PM

In his speech, 'The War We Need to Win', Obama laid out brilliantly the dangerous situation in Pakistan and the steps needed to correct it. He was criticized by the other candidates and called naive. Within no time at all, foreign policy experts were lauding his position and the candidates all started using his words as if they were their very own.

Senator Obama was right about Iraq, he was right about Pakistan, and he is right for this country and this world.

And for the record 100 or so 'present' votes out of 4000 is hardly notable, unless one wants to look entirely foolish in a comment page.

Facts are your friends, folks. The record is all there to see if you're actually interested in it.

Posted by: Terri | Dec 27, 2007 3:09:50 PM

Ha ha, Obama discussing foreign policy? That sounds like a joke...oh wait..he has how many advisers who will always be telling him what to do! For Obama to compare or even trying to debate foreign affairs with Biden, Richardson, and even Clinton, Edwards or Dodd is another joke. Obama needs to go back to school to learn Foreign Relations 101 so he can do a better work in the Foreign Relations Committee in Congress where he is belong!

Posted by: Eric Poulson | Dec 27, 2007 3:13:20 PM

He never ceases to amaze me. NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE AT ALL!!!!!! Biden definetly has the most foreign policy experience. No doubt about it, but Senator Clinton is a close second. She sits on several committies in the Senate as well as having been VERY involved as 1st Lady for eight years. She wasn't a Barbara Bush, Lady Bird Johnson type of 1st lady. She was very hands on and a POLITICAL PARTNER with then President Bill Clinton.****Obama needs to grow up. He makes stupid statements about going into Pakistan (a friend in the war on terror) and now welcomes a debate. He's got a lot of charisma and obvious intelligence, but it's scary to think of him as president!

Posted by: judy | Dec 27, 2007 3:17:28 PM

Oh...and Obama acquired all the foreign affairs knowledge where?...oh..Indonesia that was he said..when he was 10 years old. Brilliant!
Terri,-- I read his speech and I've seen him twice in person and I wasn't impressed. He can read a good speech; but in those topics he can't go deeper, his knowledge or experience is not there my friend. Lets be real.
Wasn't Obama mentioned to bomb Pakistan earlier this year? he backtracked afterwards? He still believes you can seat down to a table without preconditions or previous low level negotiations.
The fact is Obama is a talented guy; but for him to be the "ONE" like Oprah said, now thats really stretching it a little bit, LOL!
Show me the real facts, his real record...no scripted speeches. Thats the debate they are trying to avoid and Obama's campaign cries foul every time they are challenged. I would appreciate more Obamas's honesty to show us who he really is instead of pretending he knows it all!

Posted by: john | Dec 27, 2007 3:26:55 PM

Knowing Obama as OLD Establishment politics as usual (study his track record and speeches) - he would have voted for the Iraq resolution as well. It was when the IRAQ War became unpopular when Barrack Hussein Obama 130 times present Obama started opposing the war. Politics as Usual.

Posted by: Jing | Dec 27, 2007 3:30:31 PM

Matthew, you are also wrong. He spoke out against the war the same as I did, but his opinion meant no more than mine. He wasn't privey to the intelligence that the others had and was not in the position to vote for the war. If he had been, he too may have been wrongly misslead. You do know that he recently wanted to go into Pakistan without their consent and later retracted his statement. NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE.

Posted by: judy | Dec 27, 2007 4:06:52 PM

Obama has not experience in foreign affairs, how many times Obama has voted funding the war? Kucinich has been the only one opposing not only the war but the funding and he has been in the US Congress when you need to take stands for political issues. for those who bring back over and over again Obama position when he was campaigning for the Illinois State Senate are just using the only tool they have on his lucky calculated position. Has he taken any other strong position in the Senate floor or done a real debate before casting any of his votes in the Senate? NOPE. Thats Obama, trying to avoid conflicts when you need strengths to use his positions for whatever his political calculations are. Thats to be clever; but dishonest. I don't trust Obama, I don't trust Axelrod, I don't trust his oiled political machine and I don't want them in D.C. They can stay in Chicago and Illinois, we don't need more lobbyst, more money buying power. Obama is a risk!

Posted by: Mary | Dec 27, 2007 4:09:48 PM

Mark and Benj:
I was an Obama supporter as I do believe he is the Real thing, not a phony, But, I believe that Joe Biden has the judgement and strength as well as both domestic and foreign policy experience that neither Obama or Hilary have. The question is, can Biden win the nomination? If not, Obama is the one that can unite us and restore respect for the United States around the world.

Posted by: Anne | Dec 27, 2007 4:13:10 PM

As a member of the minority party of the Senate for six of his eight years, Obama accomplished the following:
•He expanded healthcare to include 154,000 people in Illinois (including 70,000 children which was an additional 20000 over the previous plan)
•Legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations
•A law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped
•A welfare reform law
•An earned-income-tax-credit law for working-poor families
•Death penalty reform that passed unanimously
•Worked with both Democrats and Republicans in drafting successful legislation on ethics and health care reform
•Promoted increased subsidies for child care
•During his last two years in the majority, he sponsored 780 bills, 280 of which became law
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While in the US Senate Obama has worked on the following legislation:
•Lugar-Obama, a bill that expands the Nunn-Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, including shoulder-fired missiles and anti-personnel mines
•"Coburn-Obama Transparency Act" provides for a web site, managed by the Office of Management and Budget, listing all organizations receiving Federal funds from 2007 onward, and providing breakdowns by the agency allocating the funds, the dollar amount given, and the purpose of the grant or contract
•"Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," which had his name on it as the first sponsor
•“Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act of 2007” with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) in strengthening restrictions on travel in corporate jets to Senators.
•An amendment to the “2008 Defense Authorization Act” with Kit Bond (R-MO) adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accounting Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs
•"Iran Sanctions Enabling Act" supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry,
•Legislation to prevent nuclear terrorism with Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
•Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries
•Reintroduced the “Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act” helping veterans transition from the DOD health system to the VA system by extending the window in which new veterans can get mental health care from two years to five years.
•Authored “Sheltering All Veterans Everywhere Act (SAVE Act)” to strengthen and expand federal homeless veteran programs that serve over 100,000 homeless veterans annually
•Led the fight on "Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act", which has passed the House of Representatives and the Senate Judiciary Committee, will enable investigations into deceptive and fraudulent practices

Posted by: Eyzwidopn | Dec 27, 2007 4:15:03 PM

Hey Louis!
How a Biden/Obama '08? Experience, judgement, hope and change!

Posted by: Anne | Dec 27, 2007 4:19:06 PM

Great resume for Obama (Eyzwidopn) but can you imagine the resume for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Bill Richardson? We would all be sitting here for 2 days reading it.-----Can you give me his resume for his 1 1/2 years in the UNITED STATES SENATE?????? I doubt it. He's been campaigning for President of the U.S. for all but the 1st couple of months of his so far short term.

Posted by: ibfay | Dec 27, 2007 4:22:35 PM

Eyzwidonpn,-- if that's all you have on Obama's accomplishments to show his experience in Foreign Affairs or to be President of th US, you failed. Not wonder alot people said he is inexperience. Surprising in the list is that the number or accomplishments is to slim even tho he was there for 10 years.
Let's compare his career legislature accomplishments with those of the other Democrat candidates and he will have not chance. Way to inexperience. He will not get my vote, thats for sure.

Posted by: Kat | Dec 27, 2007 4:24:59 PM

As a woman, I'm embarrassed to see the delusional 'arguments' other women are making against Obama to show their support for Hillary.

Ladies, just because you say it and believe it in your own minds doesn't make it true.

Posted by: Erika | Dec 27, 2007 5:07:15 PM

Eyzwidopn:

Thank you for that information....

and if folks like Kat would do some research too, then she would be in a better position to make comments......Do you actually think that's all he has done, Kat? You must be kidding.......Are you able to list all you've done in the last 5 years in a paragraph or two? Perhaps Eyzwidopn was providing a quick snapshot.....why don't you provide more than critical comments.....

Posted by: tony | Dec 27, 2007 5:23:12 PM

can someone explain how exactly Pakistan is an ally in the war on terror? aside from generously accepting the billions of dollars we offer them.

Posted by: Tone A. | Dec 27, 2007 5:29:03 PM

What you people fail to see is that judgment and vision trumps "experience"! Senator Obama had the vision months and years ago to point out that the Iraq war was based on wrong information and would divert our attention away from Afghanistan and Pakistan! Yet Hillary's "experience" led her to vote for a war based on intelligence that she didn't even study (her admission).

She "knew" Mrs. Bhutto personally? That's her foreign policy experience?

Senator Obama was very visionary and prescient about these links when others called him naive. Everything he warned out has come to pass.

Of course he walks on stage with confidence...he knows what he's talking about; and he doesn't have to depend on his spouse's coattails! What kind of feminist leadership is that, Hillary?

Bill was the President...it's HIS "experience", not hers!

We will keep reminding you that Senator Obama was right all along.

Posted by: waterprise2 | Dec 27, 2007 5:40:17 PM

you lost my vote playing on the death of this woman for your ambition

Posted by: june messina | Dec 27, 2007 6:26:18 PM

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