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Obama Heats Up Criticism of Edwards over 527s
December 23, 2007 12:36 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: It's just two days before Christmas and the shots between the campaigns haven’t slowed with the season.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., at a stop in Des Moines at the West End Diner, blasted former North Carolina senator John Edwards on independent third-party 527 groups.
“My attitude is if you can't get your former campaign manager and political director to do what you like then it’s going to be hard to get the insurance companies and the drug companies to do what you like,” Obama told a small group of reporters.
Obama was referring to former Edwards campaign manager, Nick Baldick, who plans to run an ad with the 527 group “Alliance for a New America.”
“The fact is that this is somebody who worked for John Edwards for who knows how many years. He’s a good friend and colleague of Edwards who's now running a 527 that's running ads on behalf of John Edwards. You're telling me that he has no influence on him, that's just not true.”
Obama would not definitively answer if he would accept 527s in the general election, but said during the primary season he would tell them to stop.
“What I hope to do is to get Republicans to come up with some sort of agreement in terms of how we are going to operate," Obama said, “You know, I'm not going to endanger the Democratic party’s ability to win races by letting the other side outspend us by two or three million dollars.”
And one last word: a dig likely directed at Edwards.
“The irony is that nobody’s got a more progressive track record in this race. I’m not the one who has to apologize consistently for votes I’ve made not standing up to Republicans.”
At Obama's' first scheduled stop of the day, he opened up telling a crowd in Greenfield that all he wants for Christmas is to win the Iowa caucus.
December 23, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (80)
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Mr Obama is probably seeing something in Iowa, that not matter how much free press coverage you have, how many rich friends coming to Iowa to help you, how many millions of dollar his campaign have poured here and elsewhere trying to fabricate a candidate; the reality is that the people who really vote don't buy it. We listen, we hearing them all; but at the end you can't fool everyone. Its become clear to some people after almost a year of campaigning that Obama is dishonest for trying to make us think he has the answer for everything. Suddenly an unknown State Senator with not clear records in his own states or very well known until two years ago and with practically no record in the US Senate (since he has been running for president from day 1, skipping important votes, etc. Unfortunately for him the laws allow the 527 groups and as happening to him when his groups were attacking Hillary this year, the candidate don't have much control over them. he knows it, he is just playing politics, again!
The laughable thing about Obama is that he suddenly has a track record for everything or a clever answer for everything:
Universal health insurance: is not Universal Health Insurance anymore, his plan now is Universal Access.
Lack of foreign experience: but he has "alot of advisers."
Poverty: he has the biggest track record, year right. He only went to Katrina when his friend Oprah was there so he can have a big splash!
Iraq: talked against it when was campaigning for State Senate in a very liberal district in south Chicago, a very calculated move- that he is exploiting now; but when I can assure you if he would have been in the US Senate he would probably have voted "PRESENT" or FOR THE IRAQ RESOLUTION. The fact is that have voted always to fund the war since.
Ira: he skipped the vote, he was a no show so he can attack Hillary for her vote. Again..a calculated political move!
Personal attacks: his campaign set up 2 websites to bring the dirt on Hillary months ago; but when Hillary's campaign tried to set up websites to answer Obama attacks...again, he cried out loud.
The list goes on and on.
Now he is attacking Edwards, a clear sign of desperation!
He will continue doing it and getting away with that so long he continues getting a free ride from the big press and the support of his big powerful financiers behind the scenes. One example of that is Tim Russert announcing on Meet the Press that Obama will be one of his guest next Sunday, very convenient and timing before the Iowa Caucus!
Posted by: paul | Dec 23, 2007 1:08:39 PM
Interesting! I am getting the feeling that Obama is making alot of things up since his record is to slim and he really have no experience in key issues. Quoting from this article, “My attitude is if you can't get your former campaign manager and political director to do what you like then it’s going to be hard to get the insurance companies and the drug companies to do what you like,” Obama told a small group of reporters.
But, wasn't camping in trouble few times this year when he publicly said" he didn't know about this and that when confronted with personal attacks? now he is attacking Edwards for the 527s when he knows very well those are real out of any campaign control, at least Edwards intermediately rejected and called them to stop that now. Have Obama stopped the emails sent against Hillary and Edwards in NH, Iowa, and South Carolina.
I am a little suspicious when a new candidate without a track record is claiming to know everything and above everyone. Sounds to me like a cheap telemarketer or car salesman promising you heaven and earth when you don't know who is behind the scene.
Posted by: Mary Collins | Dec 23, 2007 1:22:59 PM
Considering Obama's own flaunting of FEC rules when it came to using his HopeFund PAC to buy endorsements in early Primary states, isn't this a case of pot/kettle?
Posted by: Corky | Dec 23, 2007 1:47:07 PM
You guys ever notice that the media portrays things as really attacking, using language suck as "Obama blasted Edwards"....but when you read the actual comments made by the person it's actually quite lowkey and toned down? Seems strange
Posted by: Perry | Dec 23, 2007 1:48:27 PM
Good for Obama!
Posted by: April | Dec 23, 2007 2:11:53 PM
"It’s time for a president to stand up and remind the American people that we have promises to keep---promises to the world, promises to one another, promises to our children and to our grandchildren."
Make a New Year's Resolution for America, with me...
Posted by: John, Des Moines IA | Dec 23, 2007 2:21:15 PM
I'm still with Edwards!
Posted by: tampajay | Dec 23, 2007 2:37:19 PM
Obama is a racist and opportunist. There is NO there...there. An empty suit! He is gaining the title of "Slick Beonics" and will eventually be left behind in the race.
Posted by: Jack Lane | Dec 23, 2007 2:39:33 PM
"Suddenly an unknown State Senator with not clear records in his own states or very well known until two years ago and with practically no record in the US Senate (since he has been running for president from day 1, skipping important votes, etc. Unfortunately for him the laws allow the 527 groups and as happening to him when his groups were attacking Hillary this year, the candidate don't have much control over them. he knows it, he is just playing politics, again!"
Your anger is palpable. Don't though, let it put you in a position to tell abject lies bcuz a simple search will show you Obamas prolific senate record that rivals Clintons who has been in the senate for 6 yrs. As for being unknown, you cannot be serious. 2004 launched Obama. Since then he has been in the public eye and is more widely known and vetted than momst other senators including former senators and Veep candidates like your guy.
He also had 4000 votes in his state senate.
Posted by: clsez | Dec 23, 2007 3:11:08 PM
I am a little suspicious of the pro-Hillary bloggers here; I'm also sick of the self-importance one hears from Iowa voters who in my estimation simply hijacked the system in 1976 when they gave use Jimmy Carter who spent his four years making things easy for Ronald Reagan. Whatever happens this time I think true progressives out to make as our number one task: dumping the Iowa caucuses from the political system and with it the outrageous ethanol subsidies it produces.
Posted by: Ken | Dec 23, 2007 3:11:25 PM
Obama again undermining progressives, since 527's are legal and will play an important role in the GE any talk about not agreeing with them is empty and counterproductive. Does Obama think that the Repubs are not going to use them to spread lies and smear the eventual democratic nominee? What would he do them? Give a pretty speech? Bring Oprah? Vote “present”? How does equating unions to swift boaters help the progressive cause? Please note how he consciously avoids to mention that the ads he now criticizes are put out by a union he actively seeked endorsement from.
Posted by: Yuri Leon | Dec 23, 2007 3:17:53 PM
Obama re Edwards - "I’m not the one who has to apologize consistently for votes I’ve made not standing up to Republicans.”
I have to admit, Obama does make a valid point there. My vote is still going to the one true progressive and REAL Democrat to boot, Dennis Kucinich
Posted by: Eric | Dec 23, 2007 4:35:19 PM
You know I have reading about the 527 controversy for the last three days now. If you are an Edwards supporter, how you say your candidate was a fighter when he was a senator for NC when he voted for the China Trade, Bankruptcy Act,and the Iraq War? I know you are smarter than I think you are. Right? You do not start saying you are a fighter against corporate lobbyists and the ethics of Washington and did not do anything about while he was yet in the senate. Its fair game guys. Edwards criticized Obama on health care so now what Obama is saying that now I co-sponsored ethical reform in both state and at the federal level, what makes you(Edwards) all of a sudden think you can change the system better than me?
Posted by: JAMES | Dec 23, 2007 4:45:34 PM
The thing is that Edwards has gotten a free ride from the media. While they've spent hourse pouring over every single vote from Obama dating back to his time in the Illinois State Senate, I've yet to see anything about Edwards' record.
Even when there was just a single 527 spending for Obama in CA, there were articles about it. If these 527s were doing this stuff for Obama instead of Edwards, you know there would be all kinds of press about it. For Edwards though, it takes Obama saying things like this to get any attention and even then the focus is on him, not Edwards.
Why the double standard?
Posted by: Mike | Dec 23, 2007 4:50:40 PM
Everyone keeps talking of experience when it comes to Obama. What I exactly don't want is the same old experienced politicians, we need to change the way these politicians. Experience only going to keep the status quo. Edwards to me seems to be a sniveling little worm. He and Hillary tried to get rid of the "non candidates". Hillary and he dirty, politics and on some issues she is Bush lite ( Iraq and Iran). We need the change and Hillary and Edwards seem to keep politics as usual.
Posted by: Nick | Dec 23, 2007 4:51:43 PM
If Hillery lives up to her word she will be 100 times better than Bush. If Obama wins he will likely be much better than Bush. If Edwards wins he will be about as close to the ideal liberal President as we have ever had====if he lives up to his word.
Kucinich would be my ideal but unless he he stands up in a debate and shows himself as a strong leader by asking who picked CNN or MSNBC to decide who were viable candidates and who aren't
and demands equal time he won't win.
Posted by: gdebs | Dec 23, 2007 4:54:48 PM
Big mistake on Obama's part. He will have a real hard time looking like he is rising above Hillary when he uses the same tactics. Either you play clean or you don't. It is a constant. I hope that he gets called out on it.
Posted by: beebop | Dec 23, 2007 5:13:18 PM
I wish that Senator Obama would just go away.
He's not qualified.
Let him run HUD or something for 10 years to prove his bona fides.
If anyone but Clinton, Edwards or Biden wins the election, I'm leaving the country.
~
Posted by: MelCraig | Dec 23, 2007 5:16:40 PM
I could support either Obama or Edwards, but don't like unfair attacks from any candidate and this comes close (not even in the same UNIVERSE as Hillary's downright nasty attacks in every direction, but she's out of my consideration anyway). Since 527s are legal and these ads have not yet run, it would have been better for Obama to remain silent until they did -- and then, with reason, go after Edwards if they were unfair. Still -- if Edwards knew that Obama's former campaign manager was buying ad time for a 527, he might well have spoken up too?? What a candidate is going to do about *unfair,* even untrue, 527 ads run on his/her behalf is a very legitimate issue. We certainly expected/hoped for some effective response from Bush to the Swift Boaters and from Harold Ford's opponent in TN.
One way to avoid all of this --- caucus for Biden!!
Posted by: Elizabeth | Dec 23, 2007 5:32:09 PM
I would just like to see them debate the issues and their solutions with some clarity and detail. This personal campaigning is pure Republican standard fare. Gloss over the issues in favor of personal attacks and generalizations. Bah! Humbug!
Posted by: Harry | Dec 23, 2007 6:04:23 PM
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