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Obama Says It Would Be 'Madness' To Elect 'Same People... Over Again' and Expect Change
December 27, 2007 8:57 AM
ABC's Sunlen Miller Reports:In making his final pitch to Iowan caucus goers, Barack Obama said it would be "madness" to elect "the same people ... over again" and then expect change.
"What Washington is really telling you is that you should keep on doing the same things with the same people all over and over again and somehow expect a different outcome. And that’s the definition of madness, doing the same things over and over again and expecting something different," Obama told a crowd in Carroll, Iowa.
The comments demonstrate Obama’s attempt frame himself once again as the candidate for change against the institution of Washington, one that he regularly groups his top opponents in.
"That’s why you’re starting to see a lot of these kind of undisclosed, interest groups starting to spend millions of dollars on other candidates, you’re starting to see, negative ads coming out from unnamed sources and emails sent out all over the place," Obama concluded, "The other sides just trying to make you scared."
December 27, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (18)
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I think Obama is quite right. This does not need any brain surgery for anyone to ponder. Quite simple; when one needs a different type of food,what to be done is to get a different brand not the same food and think of how to cook it differently.
Posted by: Freedom | Dec 27, 2007 9:29:16 AM
All these Ads from third parties for Hillary and Edwards show how corrupt these two candidates are. How does one think these corrupt politicians can bring in the change that we desperate need in Washington? We all know Hillary to be very corrupt if one takes a look at her activities in the 1990s. But I am very disappointed with John Edwards by allowing these corrupt third parties to pay for Ads on his behalf. I am indeed very disappointed.
Posted by: Sam Lobey | Dec 27, 2007 9:41:50 AM
Sam Lobey,
Obama himself benefits from 527s and has said he will be firmly in favor of those groups benefiting him if he wins the nomination.
Posted by: Nathan | Dec 27, 2007 10:46:30 AM
only an Obama troll or a Republican would call the unions corrupt.
But then Obama wants to sing kumbaya with the Republicans, so maybe that's OK.
Posted by: lambert strether | Dec 27, 2007 10:47:38 AM
I was elected yesterday, Obama said. I have never set foot in the U.S. Senate. Ive never worked in Washington. And the notion that somehow Im immediately going to start running for higher office just doesnt make sense. So look, I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years, and my entire focus is making sure that Im the best possible senator on behalf of the people of Illinois. He further elaborated: Look, Im a state senator who hasnt even been sworn in yet. My understanding is that I will be ranked 99th in seniority. Im going to be spending the first several months of my career in the U.S. Senate looking for the washroom and trying to figure out how the phones work.
So, in four years, Obama went from figuring out how to use the telephones and finding bathrooms, to becoming a foreign policy expert, while missing 1/3 of his votes and failing to hold a single hearing as the CHAIR of Senate Foreign Relations committee. Right?
When Oprah went down to SC, there was all this Obama is the messiah hype. Oprah said –He is the one - But you know what, Obama is little substance, all hype. The key to his success: a freshness, a lack of record to run on, the constant repetition of simple feel-good platitudes that lull listeners into a sense of trust and induce in them a yearning to believe. No wonder Barack Obama is so popular among denizens of Hollywood like Oprah: they certainly have an eye for those who can create an image, can generate a buzz that compels others to suspend their disbelief, and who can induce a trance-like stargazing. But the fact is that Barack Obama does have a record to run on and its a record of vote dodging and triangulation. Barack Obama talks about the audacity of hope... but how about the audacity to show up and vote.. and not criticize others over resolutions you conveniently missed while campaigning
so I'm confused, Obama says we should bomb Pakistan if dictators and militants run free, but then he says he opposes the war in Iraq in 2002, but in 2004 says he agrees with Bush and how he runs the war on terror, then in 2004 also says that if he had been in the Senate he might have voted differently, and then he votes the exactly the same way as HIllary Clinton on Iraq, but then attacks her vote on the Iran resolution, while skipping the vote to campaign. He opposes the patriot act while campaigning, yet votes for its renewal in the senate. OBAMA is all hype
Posted by: sadhana khan | Dec 27, 2007 11:13:20 AM
In a colorblind society where merit should hold ultimate sway, OBAMA isn't even qualified to be assistant majority whip. He's missed a 1/3 of his votes during the 2005-2006 session, and he hasn't held a hearing as member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His policies are also awful for the nation. He believes in granting drivers licenses to illegals, he wants to ease burdens on employers when it comes to checking the status of workers, he wants to raise taxes on the middle class by trillions of dollars by eliminating the cap on social security contributions, he fails to protect our troops from the iranian revolutionary guard and then attacks his opponents for doing so EVEN WHEN HE MISSED THE VOTE, he was the only person to vote "present" instead of yes or no on bills banning adult shops near schools, and sealing court records of victims of sexual assault.
Posted by: GOP for GOP | Dec 27, 2007 11:17:46 AM
"It will be madness" to elect a person like Obama without any experience, not only in domestic issues, leadership in government or business; but with today's events of the assassination to Mr. Bhutto in Pakistan; it will be madness, crazy to elect a candidate so inexperience and unprepared in foreign affairs like Barack Obama. Barack should be take some time to learn in depth about the issues, travel abroad now (quite different than travel when you are 10 yeas old), and see for himself first hand the real problems of the world,he should put aside his own "audacity to become president" and realizes that his country needs are bigger than his own personal ego-ambitions. At times when other countries are electing real leaders with experience and able to deal with unexpected problems we shouldn't be gambling into electing a candidate for change slogans but without experience or substance. We can then he CHANGING for the worst!. I will definitely not gamble my vote on OBAMA.
Posted by: Nancy | Dec 27, 2007 11:47:53 AM
Correction to my typo in previous email. Is the assassination of Pakistan's former Prime Minister BENAZIR BHUTTO.
Again, it's a tragic event that remain us all the chaotic situation around the world. This is not time to gamble with the less prepared candidate for the President of U.S. The new president will face not only huge economic and social issues; but global issues that need leadership. Obama is not the man of the moment, is not the man to be that leader, he is way to inexperience and unprepared at most levels of leadership!
Posted by: Nancy | Dec 27, 2007 11:56:35 AM
It's madness to elect Hillary. Does anyone think it's a good idea to have the same two families in the White House for 20+ years? That alone disqualifies her, not to mention her spineless triangulation and poll-driven stances. She's an empty shell holding nothing but ambition for ambition's sake. Obama is a clear-eyed thinker with wise judgement and an eagerness to move the country in a new direction. Enough of the 1990s!
Posted by: waka waka | Dec 27, 2007 12:07:17 PM
During all his political career in Illinois Obama has been supported by Illinois lobbyist, PACs, "those corrupt politicians" he want to change, groups working on his behalf, all those people that he has been in bed with. Now can we really believe he can make any changes? they are using him as they did here in Illinois as the "front man" for them to manipulate and strengthen their power, all he needed to do with to vote PRESENT or avoid the confrontation on the big issues. Ironically, one of the biggest supporter in Illinois has been the Daley machine and Axelrod his campaign strategist has been the strategist for the Daley campaign. So Obama has his hands tie up to all those people. Give me a break, this guy would not be able to change anything. He is probably upset now that the other candidates are having some press and advertisement in Iowa and else; he thought or still think that people in American will vote for him and his celebrity "Hollywood style" campaign talking "nice" but not real talk about what the American people need. He talks alot about change' but what is he trying to change? Obama should go away, he should go back to US Senate or Chicago!
Posted by: paul | Dec 27, 2007 12:16:54 PM
Agreed, Obama should go away. HE should enlist int he military and send out to Afghanistan or Pakistan to fight. That would be a great place for him to show leadership and maybe there he would have enough time to sit on the table with all the all the leaders he wants to meet -without any preconditions- and come up with a deal.
Posted by: george_ohio | Dec 27, 2007 12:27:55 PM
What's despicable is that much of the garbage spewed above (i.e, sadhana khan, GOP for GOP, nancy) is posted verbatim on other sites. YOU are the problem, not the candidate.
It's time for the country to come together, not continue in this despicable antagonism. I speak as someone who supports several of the Democratic candidates, as well as one GOP candidate.
Folks, it's time for healing and diplomacy, not partisan battle. We've had it for the better part of two decades. Isn't time that we all try to get along???
Posted by: GordonsGirl | Dec 27, 2007 1:12:12 PM
I don't believe a word Obama is saying, for some reason I don't trust that guy. He seems to me to "funny" or phony. I don't like the fact he avoids the real fight or real issues. A vote for Obama is a waste.
Posted by: hugo miller | Dec 27, 2007 1:52:15 PM
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks". Not to be derogatory against Hillary, but she has a lot of bad things to show for her self in her 4 year's in elected office (other than that she's been a 30 year intern elected by nobody). She's way to divisive!!! And for Democratic leaning independents like myself that kind of "experience" is not a plus when it comes to my vote in the general election. Her obnoxious laugh, her polarizing statements, the rich kid sarcasm of her campaign are the embodiment of politics as usual or maybe even worse.
When Hillary was first elected as a senator in NY, I rejoiced. But my rejoicing turned to bitterness after I saw what kind a person she was. This kind of politics is not good for the country at all.
People are we looking for a democratic version of our current president, one that isn't willing to listen and is divisive? Seriously consider it.
"He that is faithful with little will be also faithful with much". For the most part I like what Obama has had to show for himself in his past decade of elected office service. 30 years of following Bill Clinton around and then becoming the most divisive figure in US politics while giving a nod to the war in Iraq just doesn't make the cut for me.
Posted by: Steve | Dec 27, 2007 3:31:32 PM
"madness"? I would call that insanity.
I am a Republican (supporting Fred Thompson)... but Barack is my 2nd choice - because he stands on principle.
(While I disagree with him... at least I would know where he stands, and I respect him for that!)
Posted by: Chris Fischahs | Dec 27, 2007 4:23:14 PM
The madness will be the people who are
voting for Hillary Clinton, actually you
will be voting for Bill Clinton again, and that is insane, so says Obama. It's a shame, because with Billary, it's back to the future. With Obama, it's ahhh, let's I have not made up mind today, and quite possibly, when it's over the CEO of some big oil company will really be running the White House with Obama as the yes man, they aren't financing his campaign for nothing.
Posted by: Lee | Dec 28, 2007 3:12:18 AM
The haters are proving his point. There are people so afraid of changing the status quo that they will ignore the fact that all of the other candidates change position with the wind, pander for votes, and then sell out to the highest bidder once elected. Obama isn't the messiah and I don't agree with his position on everything, but i do think he will be different from the last 8 years and that he is the best opportunity for some change in the way things have been run.
Posted by: Louis | Dec 28, 2007 12:39:53 PM
I thinks the country suffers from Obama madness, beause of the desperation created by the failed Bush policies. The American people made decision based on emotion not on logic when selecting a president. The media, further, feeds the problem. It is bias against Clinton. If Obama does win the Democratic primary, the Reublicans will devour.
Posted by: Dr Gene Colombini | Feb 9, 2008 4:43:43 PM
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