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Southern Protestors Unhappy with Thompson and Romney's Flag Remarks
December 05, 2007 8:54 PM
ABC News' Christine Byun Reports: As GOP presidential hopeful Fred Thompson wrapped his South Carolina campaign visit, he had a small handful of protesters outside his event at a Lexington, South Carolina restaurant.
About four men held confederate flags and signs that said "Honk for Dixie" and "The South Does Not Want Fred Thompson."
The men said they were part of the South Carolina League of the South and speaking out against Thompson and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney for recent remarks about something dear to their hearts. At the November 28 CNN/YouTube debate, both candidates said they did not believe the Confederate flag should be flown in a public place. The two Republican hopefuls, who are among the leaders in Palmetto State polls, also said the flag wrongfully divides the country.
"When a Southerner goes bad, we call him a scallywag. Thompson's a scallywag - he deserves no respect," Jim Hanks, who identified himself as a registered Independent, said. A scallywag is a white southerner who supported the federal government during Reconstruction. Hanks also said he was interested in Thompson, but now supports Ron Paul.
The group also lashed out at Romney - who called the flag was "divisive" at the debate - for being a "carpetbagger."
"Most people think the flag is a racist symbol. I would say not in South Carolina, we don't. Not in the South, we don't. We don't vote for people that say negative things about the Confederate flag," Don Gordon, a protestor who wore a Confederate flag tie, said.
The group intends to protest every campaign stop in South Carolina for both candidates.
"Yesterday, we were at Mitt Romney's headquarters because Mitt Romney insulted our flag," Hanks said. "We'll try to be everywhere they are."
The group was at one of four Thompson campaign stops today. Thompson spokesman Jeff Sadosky said they will pay no attention to the protestors.
"South Carolina voters know where Senator Thompson stands on the issue, and that's what's important," Sadosky said.
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What they still don't get it NO the thing is they get it the know its racist that's why they still defend it being flown they know it says No non whites allowed I have a question what other country in the world does the losing sides flag in a civil war gets such for lack of a better word reverance ? Only here not because it reps the south well i guess it does in one way seperation and prejudice. that is all it represents that and the LOSING side of a war.
Posted by: Dennis Fort Myers Fl | Dec 5, 2007 9:32:06 PM
Well what ever your position on the Confederate flag you have to be against posts like the one from Dennis from Fort Myers. It looks like English is not his first language.
Posted by: ragebot | Dec 5, 2007 9:46:06 PM
Personally, my allegiance and respect is for the Union flag, i.e., "Old Glory," & the American patriots who defeated those who harbor hatred and bigotry, and tried (unsuccessfully) to undermine our one republic, under God, for selfish, unpatriotic, and mean-spirited ends. I suppose if we really wanted to turn back the clock on liberty, justice and equality, we should just hoist the flag of Great Britain over the nation, and all rally round it.
Posted by: Justinteim | Dec 5, 2007 10:59:36 PM
The Civil War has so many lunatics sounding off. Put racism aside for a moment and ask why did all those southern boys die? They did not die because they owned slaves or even wanted to. They died because they did not want to be a part of a yankee led country. When Serbia broke up, we were there to insure the seperation. When the south left, we were there to insure they didn't-pure and simple. But, Americans have been fed this outrageous lie for decades. Sorry folks but the war was absolutely not over slavery as abhorrent as it was. Political correctness is such an awful sin that it masks historical truth--weak reason.
Posted by: rockychance | Dec 5, 2007 11:38:09 PM
Flying a Confederate flag is showing to the world you believe we should go back to the "good" old days of the South. We all know why these flags are flown,much like flying a Swastika. The Civil War is long over,get over it! You Red states lost!
Posted by: AJ | Dec 6, 2007 2:21:15 AM
I think we should reverse the result of the civil war and let the south succeed from the union. It'll be fun watching them try to live without all the govt money that they survive on...... which by the way comes from the north. We'd be better off without them.
Posted by: dk | Dec 6, 2007 2:40:26 AM
YOUR RIGHT DK.....we (the south) WOULD be better off. Rockychance hit the nail right on the head! All the people of the south SHOULD support the flag of the south, it is an honorable thing to stand up for what you believe in, win or lose.
Posted by: Terry | Dec 6, 2007 7:18:30 AM
This Yankee has lived in the South and I always felt the Confederate Flag was not about bigotry or slavery; instead it is taking pride in one's history and origins more like a band of brothers. In years of southern living I never once received the impression that it stood for bigotry.
I am big on genrealogy and would fly the flag of every country of my origins. The Confederates states were a country and if I had southern roots, the Confederate flag would be among them.
What gets overlooked here, whether you agree with them or not, is that they had the mind and will to fight for what they believed in. We need more of that with the current administration policies.
Posted by: Larry Friend | Dec 6, 2007 7:34:53 AM
Perhaps even Romney and Thompson realize that anyone still flying the Confederate Flag is in serious denial about the outcome of the Civil War and probably too out of touch with reality to vote!
Posted by: Uniblogger | Dec 6, 2007 8:42:29 AM
Can anyone out there tell me what the name "Mitt" is short for??? Why would ANYONE with a sane mind name their son MITT??? As for me, I'll fly whatever as I please and everyone else who doesn't like it can go pound sand. If illegal aliens can fly their Mexican or whatever kind of flag here and no one says anything about that, then I'll fly any flag that I want to also. So there.
Posted by: Iam Avoter | Dec 6, 2007 9:58:33 AM
"A scallywag is a white southern who supported the federal gov't during reconstruction." What!!!!??? There you have it: The confederate flag represents the worst type of racism....
Consider this: Deval Patrick is only the second black governor since Reconstruction. He's the first from Mass.--in fact, he's Mitt Romney's successor. If it were left up to the old south and those who support the conferate flag and all the hatred it stands for, Reconstruction would not even have taken place. Reconstruction was designed to bring former slaves and Blacks into mainstream society.....And the swallywags were those who supported this,,,,,right? Althouhgh I do not agree with Mitt Romney's religious teachings, I now have more respect and admiration for him because of his position on the confederate flag. There is no place in public where that stupid symbol belongs.......And I am a bit sadden for so many Blacks in South Carolina who still put up with that trash of a flag......South Carolina has a state flag----it's blue with the crescent moon and palmetto tree....And the US flag flies above it. What in the world is that racist confederate flag still flying for?
Posted by: tony | Dec 6, 2007 11:02:59 AM
A lot of folks are saying the flag represents the pride they have in the South. Lets examine what the South looked like ante bellum. Hordes of uneducated, illiterate men toiling in the dirt, while a select few aristocrats lived richly with slave labor. An almost purely agrarian economy that refused to mechanize and industrialize because that could threaten the supremacy of the few whites living like kings. So you want to celebrate your pride in an uneducated, illiterate populace, backward economy, not to mention racist? Almost every major work on the war itself shows that the South should have been able to win, it was just too damned incompetent to do so. Honestly, taking the racism part out, you still are left with little to nothing to celebrate except ignorance and defeat, have fun with that. Also, remember that the majority of the south fell in the illiterate category, from this display of pride, its clear you guys havent risen much from the muck of your forbearers that you want so much to celebrate.
Posted by: foolish people | Dec 6, 2007 11:23:22 AM
A question no Confederate apologist will answer:
If it really was about states' rights like you insist, why were there no free states in the Confederacy? Why did no free states secede, or any seceded state emancipate after secession?
Posted by: Jeff Cross | Dec 6, 2007 11:40:01 AM
Laying aside the question of slavery (as if that were possible, as if it were but a tangential point) no one can deny that the Confederate flag does stand for treason. More Americans were killed in the Civil War than all other wars combined. Who would take pride in that?
Anti-American sentiments will come and go in the world, but none will ever compare to "Southern pride".
Posted by: Erik | Dec 6, 2007 12:02:45 PM
The education systems in most of the southern states ranks lower than those in third world countries.
Some of that Southern pride for a symbol of the subjugation and enslavement of other people ought to be spent trying ensure that those livingand working in the "south" can at least compete with folks from place like Borneo or the jungles of Brazil.
I am from "the south" and know what conditions are still like in much of the area.
Posted by: Samella Williams | Dec 6, 2007 12:37:35 PM
The use of the swastika dates back to the neolithic period. Why then should I not display it as a symbol of my neolithic heritage? Why, because it's a symbol of a despicable murderous regime.
Confederate flag lovers: just because you choose to not see it as a symbol of racism, doesn't mean it isn't. It's time to put the stars and bars away.
Posted by: carl | Dec 6, 2007 12:46:16 PM
Yes! The GOP eating it's own, gotta love it!
Posted by: Sandra Lea | Dec 6, 2007 1:43:44 PM
I personally consider the Confederate Flag to be a symbol of States' rights and one of rebellion rather than a symbol of racism. What surprised me in the article is the admission by one of its supporters that most people consider the flag to be a symbol of racism...which is true. It's all about perception. While I maintain my position on the flag's symbolism, I will not display it on my person or property (or in any form, for that matter) because I know how it makes some people feel.
Posted by: Chris | Dec 6, 2007 2:08:33 PM
I am a sudent at the infamous University of Mississippi (better known as Ole Miss). The Confederate Flag is still in many areas on campus. The state flag (of MS) still waves proudly above the lyceum (Chancellor's building). On gamedays in the infamous Grove, all types of Confederate flags are everywhere (we ARE the Rebels after all). When the football game starts the band enters the 60,000+ stadium to delight of fans, by playing Dixie. The South is special in so many ways. We are unique. Our culture stands apart, it gave us the blues, jazz, bbq, and many other things that everyone enjoys. If you like these things, please respect OUR culture for once. Lets not forget the Klan was the strongest in Indiana. The Confederate flag represents our people as a Southern Nation (and yes, we are a nation...a nation is a collection of people we have a common culture and history). For any candidate who wishes to win here, Id say soften your position down here on the Rebel flag. Ole Miss will be hosting one of the three political debates between the nominees next September. Im hoping by then, they are informed to not insult such a banner that so many died for. If you need any info on Ole Miss, and its proud confederate history just google the university grays. Until then...as we say at the end of every football and basketball game down here at the end of slow dixie...THE SOUTH...WILL...RISE...AaaaGAIN!!!...
Hotty Toddy and Yall Com'on down and see us! Be glad to have ya
Posted by: Georgia | Dec 6, 2007 2:54:19 PM
It's amazing to me that in 2007, some people still take pride in their racism and hate. These are the same people who helped elect GWB, so draw your own conclusion.
If the state of South Carolina is truly represented by these haters, I'd prefer to LOSE there if I were running for office.
Remember "In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."?
Go back to your caves, NEANDERTHALS!
Posted by: David Kaczmarek | Dec 6, 2007 3:31:51 PM
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