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At Dems Dinner, Clinton's Performance is Lackluster while Obama Remains Strong
January 05, 2008 9:14 AM
ABC News' Eloise Harper and Sunlen Miller Report: Senator Clinton just took the stage in a large auditorium for the 100 Club Dinner in the Hampshire Dome in Milford, NH. Clinton launched a new slogan with a sign that just says READY. The change message that Clinton has been driving hard was tampered down in this speech – and instead Clinton focused on being "ready to make the changes that America deserves," and on a "new beginning."
Clinton was serious and was clearly trying to drive her message of seriousness and strength. Some boo's were audible from the crowd at times during her speech from Obama supporters and people were chanting "O-BAMA." Three thousand people packed the auditorium and it seems like there are many more Obama supporters than Clinton supporters.
It was not Clinton's best performance.
Clinton went after Senator Obama's healthcare plan (not by name) saying "there are some who say we can’t cover everyone its too politically ambitious its controversial – they offer instead virtual healthcare – well I believe we have to cover everyone and I am not going to leave anyone out."
Clinton exited the stage with President Clinton and Chelsea Clinton.
In a stark contrast, Barack Obama took the stage immediately after Senator Clinton this evening at the 100 Club Dinner.
In the brief moment between the two candidates speeches, a couple hundred Obama supporters left their seats throughout the venue and flooded toward the stage, leading a massive impromptu pep rally, shouting "Obama, Fire it up, Ready to go!"
An event staffer had to announce over the PA system,"For safety concerns please take your seats."
Obama took the stage to the loudest applause and cheers of any of the candidates, as supporters waved signature "O" placards, and delivered a strong speech, albeight through a still hoarse voice.
Obama stuck to his stump speech, but used the momentum from his Iowa win to make the case for winning New Hampshire, saying that hope is, "believing in things not seen, believing in brighter days ahead, that is what is possible in four days time. That is the challenge before you, New Hampshire. I am absolutely convinced that if you believe, we can not be stopped."
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we are better to go for hillary because she want change and exp.. to she and the politic for over 30 year she know better
you want a name obama for president plus he has a big mouth and know nothing yet his and the white house for 2 year only
Posted by: magella | Jan 5, 2008 9:46:17 AM
If you don't like a candiate, you should come up w/ a better argument than making personal attacks. The voters took a look at Hillary in Iowa and decided they did not like her. They make come to a different conclusion in N.H. but it seems to me that people are just tired of the same old attacks and games that she plays.
Posted by: Midwest | Jan 5, 2008 10:01:14 AM
If you don't like a candiate, you should come up w/ a better argument than making personal attacks. The voters took a look at Hillary in Iowa and decided they did not like her. They make come to a different conclusion in N.H. but it seems to me that people are just tired of the same old attacks and games that she plays.
Posted by: Midwest | Jan 5, 2008 10:01:44 AM
Its time for change, Hillary doesnt represent change but a dynasty. 'Yesterday' it was Bush and his son, now its Bill Clinton and his wife, what new ideas will she bring except recycling her husband's policies which is what her experience represents! Washington needs a new face, new administration, new order and a new way of doing things.
Posted by: Dr Biggy | Jan 5, 2008 10:19:54 AM
Iowa voters never nomineted a candidate who can win the white house.
Posted by: northeast | Jan 5, 2008 10:21:47 AM
Change is the issue. All candidates seem to want it. But it can only be achieved if Republicans and Democrats can come together and pass the legislation needed. The Clinton's are polarizing figures, just like the Bush's. Ask yourself this question -- Do you really think Hillary Clinton can bring the two parties together. I don't think she can, which means she will not be able to create change. Experience (although I also question her level of experience) is not enough. What we need is someone who can build a consensus and I truly believe that Obama is the only candidate on both sides of the aisle that can achieve the unity required for change.
Posted by: Robert | Jan 5, 2008 10:22:38 AM
I agree that the Iowa caucus is more about flushing out candidates that are not viable than picking the next President of the United States. However, they have been successful in picking the eventual party nominee (John Kerry, Al Gore, Walter Mondale, Bob Dole, and Jimmy Carter) and they have been successful in picking the president in recent years (George W. Bush). So I wouldn't take it so lightly. I think the more striking take away is not Obama winning, but Hillary finishing third. She is not a consensus builder. Republicans do not like her. She will not be able to unite the parties, which will result in another stagnant government. That's why Obama is the Change Candidate.
Posted by: Robert | Jan 5, 2008 10:30:14 AM
I beg your pardon Robert, I do remember comments from Republicans, including Newt, that they enjoyed working on projects with Clinton using such words as "Intelligent", "hard working", "Open minded" and "considered both sides". With the mess the next President has to clean up, I believe she is the one that can do it best. She is a lot more than a cheerleader.
Posted by: Southeast | Jan 5, 2008 10:44:17 AM
The news coverage of the campaign in this country is shameful! When you have no job, no health insurance and no prospects are you really concerned with a candidate's, PEFORMANCE? That, in itself, suggests something other than, shall we say, sincerity. Yes, Joe / Mary Blow, the candidate, must SHOW how much he cares about the plight of the middle class in this country - even though, in reality, he / she does not give a #### about the people he / she is pretending to care about! One of the these old days soon, the news media, the government, the lobbysists... are going to be in for a real surprise and THAT DAY IS COMING!
Posted by: Allan J Krueger | Jan 5, 2008 11:00:10 AM
The fact is in this that we need someone in the White House who isn't can not only change Washington politics but someone who will be respected around the world. It's time for us to repair our image with a president who is wiling to respect other heads of states and speak the them directly rather than sending "envoys". It's time for change. I admit that I was skeptical about whether Obama could win the party nomination but Iowa has made me a believer.
Posted by: Catherine | Jan 5, 2008 11:02:55 AM
I can't believe all the comments. I also can't believe how nieve so many democrates are. Obama got a "free ride". Why has no one questioned the fact that he opposed the war ... yes....but was in a State senate where he represented an extremely progressive and liberal district who would totally was against the war. Nothing brave about his opposition. He critized Clinton for her vote concerning the Iranian military but he DIDN'T EVEN VOTE. What's that about. It's about him making vague excuses when he didn't have the courage to cast vote. If it is so important that he has brought it up in debates over and over "why wasn't he there to vote and let the American people know his position"? The fact is that he opposed the war when it was easy for him to do so and he was absent form voting when he could have shown the people where he stood when he actually is a U.S. Senator. But ..... he didn't have the courage to do that. He has gotten such a free ride and there is NO DOUBT that his insurance plan DOES leave out 15 million .... as Edwards campaign only now is pointing out. To go for CHANGE instead of EXPERIENCE at this point in the history of our country is rediculous. Is that the person you'd put your money with if you were investing?????? The new broker on the block or the one who has a track record of success? It's not necessary to get personal .... but it is necessary to look at the record and see who has been most successful in getting things done. Go ahead and look .... or are you afraid to do that?
Posted by: Dolores Miele | Jan 5, 2008 11:19:08 AM
If Obama supporters were allowed to boo her while she was speaking and his campaign did not immediately step in to stop them, isn't that reason enough not to vote for the man. Chances are his campaign even orchestrated it. Not worthy of an American president.
Posted by: s.b. | Jan 5, 2008 11:31:00 AM
Robert Iowa has only picked the nominee four times and never picked anyone for the Dems who went on to win the presidency. Jimmy Carter was not picked by Iowa the year he took the white house. He lost to undecided.
Posted by: s.b. | Jan 5, 2008 11:33:35 AM
Sorry after reading the article again it seems quite clear that the Obama supporters were orchestrated and marshalled to do their little display. This will not be lost on experienced democrats and the booing will not impress.
Posted by: s.b. | Jan 5, 2008 11:35:25 AM
Clinton, in her speech immediately following her crushing defeat in Iowa, confirmed my suspicions that she's an arrogant fool. She didn't graciously acknowledge the winner, she just kept right on talking down to the little people, as she always does. This morning, she decided to unjustly criticize the military yet again, stating that she requested plans for a US withdrawal from generals, and did not receive much of an answer. For having been in government as long as she has, she knows full well that generals only answer to the President, their commander in chief. It's called a chain of command, and she knew this full well. Mrs. clinton needs to stop being a deceitful liar and should retire altogether from politics. Her mileading statements about the generals today open her to lawsuit liabilities for slander, and given the clintons are already in legal hot water, this could add another round of misery. If I were one of the generals in question, I'd be sending someone to serve her right this minute.
Posted by: Alessandro | Jan 5, 2008 11:45:58 AM
It never seizes to amaze me how people will try and pick on the most mundane of issues like the 'booing' issue to try and attack a candidate! I do not honestly see how a candidate can prevent over-excited supporters from performing such spontaneous acts, and besides I do believe that the offending individuals were requested to desist from such acts and they did so. i do think that there are a lot of important pressing issues pertaining to the 08 race and people would best be served if we were to channel our energies debating these!
Posted by: JAY | Jan 5, 2008 11:52:07 AM
Sorry Southeast, but no one can convince me that Hillary is a consensus builder. The Clinton's are polarizing figures in our political landscape. Change can only happen if a consensus builder is elected. I think Obama is that guy, but the other candidates may be able to a fine job as well. All of them except one -- Hillary Clinton. How anyone can think otherwise hasn't been watching the last fifteen years (or maybe its just wishful thinking). I come from New York. Hillary has been a good senator and I believe she is more than just a cheerleader, but I would not call her a consensus builder. Maybe it has more to do with her last name, than her own character. Either way, Republicans will not get on board with her. There may be some exceptions (you will always find an exception) but the rule will result in a stalemate.
Posted by: Robert | Jan 5, 2008 12:17:31 PM
My mistake on Carter regarding the Iowa Caucus, but I only wanted to point out that the results should not be entirely dismissed. I'm sure if Hillary had won, they would be trumpeting the results. In fact, I'm positive that Hillary supporters would not be pointing out the failures of Iowa if their candidate had won. As I mentioned, I think Iowa tends to flush out less viable candidates rather than predict the next president. But they did pick our current President and they have shown more success in at least getting the nominee right.
Posted by: Robert | Jan 5, 2008 12:22:49 PM
Who in their right mind wants Clinton? How can any of you Clinton supporters really thing that she is in our best interest? Think about it -- Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Clinton. Who comes after Hillary, Jeb? Please make it stop!!! Vote for anyone else....as long as their name doesn't end with Clinton or Bush.
Posted by: Jones | Jan 5, 2008 12:28:44 PM
My husband and I are neither Clinton nor Obama supporters (John Edwards is our candidate), but both of us are appalled to read of Obama supporters' behavior during Clinton's speech.
It says something VERY negative about Obama's character that he didn't publicly and forcefully condemn such behavior, either at the beginning of his own speech immediately after Clinton's -- or even while the chanting and booing was going on.
Both Clinton AND Obama are Democrats, for pity's sake -- save the negative behavior for real enemies!
Posted by: Sue in Kentucky | Jan 5, 2008 12:31:57 PM
Hey, I got an idea. Let's create some change in Washington. Let's vote for Hillary. What a fabulous idea! Let's create change by voting for the same couple that occupied the White House in the nineties. Now that's real change. Clinton supports have got to be nuts if they think she is the change candidate. And by the way, I wouldn't call her to most experienced candidate either. You want experience - then Vote for McCain.
Posted by: Jones | Jan 5, 2008 12:32:31 PM
you are automatically deemed irrelevant if you can equate the bush family with the Clinton familiy
Posted by: chris | Jan 5, 2008 12:48:27 PM
What 'specifically' does Obama mean by change. He's all rhetoric, a toastmaster debater. What is he going to do-I haven't heard much in the way of anything other than 'we need to change'.
Independents will swing to the Republican candidate if Hillary and Obama are the best the Dems can put up.
Posted by: Jeff | Jan 5, 2008 12:52:32 PM
Hillrey is the ONE for all inteligint voters. I mean, cum on she is the smartest of them all, by very far. Her polisy solutions are best, way better then Barracks'. USA needs CLINTON! VOTE HILLREY!
Posted by: Tony | Jan 5, 2008 12:57:18 PM
You can't have change without a Congress that's willing to make the hard decisions. Bush would not have been able to do the damage he's done without the complicity of Congress. Congress loves the attention paid on the executive branch--it let's them off the hook in the minds of Americans. The Democratic majority in Congress is razor thin and apart from controlling the agenda, they can't accomplish zip without the support of a majority of Republicans. Kick the bums out of Congress, then we'll get somewhere.
Posted by: April Campbell | Jan 5, 2008 1:03:42 PM
I haven't decided yet, and I like both Hillary and Obama. I was very disappointed, though, that the Obama supporters were encouraged to be disrespectful and unruly. And then when Obama came out to speak to the crowd, he just stoked their disruptiveness. It casts doubt on his claims to be the candidate for unification and hope if he's encouraging people to be rude.
Posted by: Undecided | Jan 5, 2008 1:05:10 PM
american people's interest is to win obama on the other hand the lobby's interest is to win Ms Clinton or John Edword
Posted by: Steve | Jan 5, 2008 1:06:11 PM
i became a obama supporter after hearing him in a speech after all he is a eloquent speaker. i logged on to his campaign website and read the "issues" section to see where he stood on certain issues (can't list them all). on civil rights: "leads against discriminatory bariers to voting" - what barriers? service: "after graduating from law school..he helped register 150000 africanamericans voters in chicago" he did that because of all the discriminatory voting barriers? if your leaning towards obama - 1st find out what he really stands for.
Posted by: paul | Jan 5, 2008 1:08:20 PM
Those that think of change for the sake of change will be sadly taken care of by Hillary. Be careful what you ask for in wanting the old Clinton dynasty to be reincarnated and in charge.
Posted by: Bill | Jan 5, 2008 1:08:49 PM
Mr. Obama, someone who we don't know, is selling us HOPE, while he is asking us" believing on what we haven't seen". And still many out there buy him.
Hillary might not be the perfect solution, but Obama can't be (much less) neither.
The truth of the matter is Hillary is way more predictable, tangible. Obama is still a closed door that doesnt let us know (FOR A FACT) what's inside.
I'm not necesarily a Clinto's fanatic. But I see her much closer to the White House.
Posted by: Antonio | Jan 5, 2008 1:13:08 PM
Jeff, I hate to burst your bubble, but a very large number of former Republicans in Iowa, registered as Democrats, just so they could vote for Obama. They were smart in knowing Hillary wasn't the correct candidate for change and they're very tired of the Bush regime.
Posted by: steve | Jan 5, 2008 1:13:43 PM
I am from Iowa, I don't like the caucus process, they are usually rigged. We now live in Illinois. The state where Obama comes from. He lives in Chicago, the worst city in the U.S. for crime. He talks, talks, talks, but just like when he was in office here in Illinois, he never did much if anything noteable, he hooked up with Emil Jones and then the fun started. Oprah is the one who had Obama on her show and told America that he would make a good President. Well, he will, if you want someone who will talk, never do anything, but talk, be in the pocket of big corporations with payola money, He is the co-authour of the "Dream Act" (the bill to allow children who are really adults when they go to college) to get loans which will pretty much be free to attend college just by virtue of being the child of an illegal alien. He is for allowing all the illegal aliens to have amnesty. Go to the Internet and see how he voted on various Senate bills, this will tell you how he works the system. Oprah will probably be made ambassador of England, France, or some other country of her chosing. Chicago is such a corrupt city, it would make Rudy look like a angel. The tollways in Chicago have been sold to a foreign coumpany, does that look like Obama really cares about what happens to America when he allows our country to be sold, traded, or given to foreign countries. He is not the only elected offical to allow this. Obama lives in a million dollar house, do yo think he has to worry about making the mortgage payment like you do? We have written him along with other candidates to free Compean and Ramos, they wrote back that they were found guility, I wrote back they were rail-roaded by Johnny Cochran.We don't care if the President is white, black, purple, male of female. We want and demand a President of the United States who uphold the Constituation of the United States of America. We want a President who will do away with the lobbist and PAC's. We want an honest person who will work for America. We want a person who will close the doors and build a fence on our southern borders. We want a President who will uphold laws to deport all illegal aliens.
Posted by: Jo T | Jan 5, 2008 1:16:49 PM
yeah sure try to blame the candidate, when obama and edwards were booed at the debate, did hillary do anything to stop them?? No she didnt, when the tables turn she cries foul!! obama and edwards did not cry out, they stood and took it like men, hillary goes home crying to bill, folks we need a better person for president, she is weak and besides we have had enough of the bush-clinton-bush monarchy, this is a democracy and so far its working lets encourage the momentum and take our govt back from people like hrc who think, the presidency is her birth right!
Posted by: jacobs | Jan 5, 2008 1:17:38 PM
Have none of you people seen the list of "dead people" connected with the Clinton dynasty? They scare me more than Bush did. These people are "those who would be king/queen" and the country can not take the chance on electing someone who will do nothing but use the Bush ideas to establish their own form of control. If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I will have to vote Rebublican, against my better judgment. Obama is the only salvation of the Democratic party that is really out to change the way "Government" is run and this is vital to the continuation of our chosen way of life.
Posted by: oldman5286 | Jan 5, 2008 1:21:10 PM
This thread is reproachable.
In essence, we should deride all pioneers for a message of hope. Don't worry about the issues but take stock on how supporters act. Heck, ignore the fact that we should keep our soldiers in an infinite meat grinder and only promote the working class and the poor to sacrifice their kids while investors in energy, weapons and defenses can enjoy a outstanding era of wealth.
I'm sorry but if you are undecided and your vote will only take into account how some supporters act with the current abysmal trend of our government, then please tell me how to get to this wonderland of ignorance. It certainly must be blissful!
Oh by the way, at least no other candidate was a sore loser and insulted the citizens of Iowa as did Hillary yesterday! (Sorry I meant Hillery for all you Clinton supporters that seem to not be able to spell).
Posted by: Rob | Jan 5, 2008 1:24:26 PM
Hillary Clinton would be a center-right Conservative in any Western European nation. Her military policy is to the right of Conservative leaders like France's Sarkozy. Her positions on trade would put American trade policy to the right of Nixon or Reagan or Bush the Elder. She voted with Bush on the Iraq War. She is saber rattling for war with Iran.
Yes, she has her pet liberal domestic social positions. But her foreign policy is to the right of any other Democrat on Capitol Hill.
She simply doesn't represent the Democratic Party. Of course she gets booed.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | Jan 5, 2008 1:26:09 PM
Obama is just like Dubya...Lots of promises and thin air. I like to hope but hope does not feed my family. Hard work - hard facts provide us and feed us.
For Obama supporters to say Clinton years were as bad as Dubya - you all are misstating facts. We had the best economic growth at that time - I guess Obama did it from Chicago -as far as the shrill booing air heads are concerned.
I believe the Obama campaign is using it s workers to post on these boards. Just like big O coming out for him. Big O is another hack who supported the war and derided any one who questioned it in here program. I hope people catch on to Obama ...I think he is a big fraud. Talk to people in his state. One over 50% does not mean (when only less than 30% percent of the voting population voting)
that Obama was believed in his state.
My feelings are he is as much a fraud as Dubya and I hate to see another 8 years of some one like Dubya (Who also preached hope for values in the WH).
People read the candiates policies - question them hard. Hope does not feed us!!!
Posted by: oh-barrack | Jan 5, 2008 1:32:36 PM
Hillary needs to realize that socialized health care along with virtually all socialist systems do not work, those systems always collapse under their own weight. China has realized this and adopted a more capitalist system and now their economy is almost unstoppable.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | Jan 5, 2008 1:36:40 PM
Clinton is deja vu. Why some one tell her that.
Posted by: A Lieu | Jan 5, 2008 1:37:37 PM
It is important how supporters act when they are marshalled to do so. These were young people brought there by the Obama campaign told where to go, told to block the aisles told to boo Clinton and told to create a false standing ovation by crouching in various places then standing when he was finished. It is theatre, well orchestrated, it however in my opinion and anyone experinced in campaigns who was there does not look bad on Clinton but on the Obama campaign. Certainly reporting a manufactured standing ovation is highly questionable as political analysis.
Posted by: s.b. | Jan 5, 2008 1:42:14 PM
Dems booing Hillary is like a bunch of hamsters or gerbils eating their own. Hillary was going to give them all those promises - now what?
Posted by: Bill | Jan 5, 2008 1:42:43 PM
Where has everyone been? Bill and Hillary are as vile as any politican can be. They will stop an nothing to have the power they live for. They would sell their soul for power. I agree with Jacobs. There is a trail of blood all the way from Arkansas to Pennsylvania Ave. They both are nothing
but SOCIALIST. Their positions and statements change with the polls. They say whatever they think people want to
hear. Just do some research. Listen to what people who have been around them and worked with say. There's plenty to read if you want the truth. If not, just put another ego maniac in the White House and we will all pay the price.
Posted by: Ron | Jan 5, 2008 1:43:38 PM
by the way, chances are these young people aren't even from New Hampshire, but have been brought in from elsewhere and may even be paid organizers. Disingenuous to say the least, but the booing is reprehensible and should not have been allowed.
Posted by: s.b. | Jan 5, 2008 1:43:39 PM
I do not care about dynasties if it will work for me. I would have supported the Kennedys in the 60's and would have possibly voted JFK Jr if he was around. I voted for GWB Jr in 2000, even though I did not vote for his dad. This was my worst mistake. I would have supported a Reagan dynasty if there was one. Bill Clinton worked for me both times in the 90's and if his wife will do 90 percent of his policies I WOULD LOVE IT. All I care is that it works for me. Think with your head and not with your heart and vote Hillary over Obama.
Posted by: VPNNathan | Jan 5, 2008 1:44:10 PM
Since when is Hillary Clinton an "agent of change"? If this were 1992, then yes -- she could feasibly argue that she is the change candidate. The problem? HER HUSBAND was THE candidate in 1992, and he is too old now to be viewed as a new face. She isn't a lot younger, and so she isn't viable.
Barack IS an agent of change. I hate to say it, because I don't believe that youth is always positive. There is an aspect of experience that matters, but let's face it -- after eight years of "aw, shucks" politics, I'm ready for anything OTHER than tripping over one's own tongue every other word.
- SJ
Posted by: SJ | Jan 5, 2008 1:45:39 PM
If Hillary's new slogan is "Ready," then Obama's slogan is "EverReady" like the battery - full of energy.
Posted by: Bruce Hermann | Jan 5, 2008 1:49:50 PM
Read Mayhill Fowler on the Huffington report how Obama and Edwards people worked together to make sure Hillary came in third.Just read it.
Posted by: roncraw | Jan 5, 2008 1:53:21 PM
This report makes for a good fictional narrative, but it's factually inaccurate. Richardson was on before Obama, not Hillary. Domn't let truth get in the way of your "reporting", though.
Posted by: Sharon Campbell | Jan 5, 2008 1:54:01 PM
Have voters lost their minds? I like Obama's passion but can that translate into a presidency where the major problems of this country get addressed? I doubt it. Some day he will be ready ... but that time is not now. The last inexperienced president screwed it up badly (and we are living with him as we speak!). Hillary has the toughness and the plan to get the job done. This isn't a popularity contest ... this is about getting a president who will lead and deliver results. I laugh that we all of a sudden put any stock in a bunch of farmers in Iowa with their goofy caucus process. Smarten up America before it's too late or we'll get stuck with another bible thumping, clueless president!
Posted by: Kgh | Jan 5, 2008 1:55:29 PM
Please tell ABC to change the title on the main page. "Obama Cheered, Clinton Booed at Forum" - this is grossly misleading. You may not think you have to have any journalistic integrity it a blog, but they put their title on the main page as a main "news" headline. Obviously, Clinton was cheered also, and I'm sure someone booed Obama as well. If you mean that "more people booed Clinton than Obama, then say so and give the evidence. I a actually prefer Obama myself, but I can still get angry at irresponsible journalism.
Posted by: jock59801 | Jan 5, 2008 1:55:58 PM
hope is the American way and so is obama, this country is losing serious ground in the world, our dollar is going to the dumps, oil is ridiculously high, this country is not working for the people anymore, because corporate interest/greed has taken over the, American peoples interest in govt, i want the govt to work for every American and reduce the power of special interests and lobbyist groups obama is your man real agent of change and hope, the old washington way is simply not gonna cut it anymore, we need to revamp and renew our govt, with someone with little or no ties to this old corrupt govt,choose obama08!
Posted by: jacobs | Jan 5, 2008 1:57:11 PM
It will be a sad day for Americans If Obama ever wins the presidency! I don't believe he can do the job.
Posted by: KS | Jan 5, 2008 1:58:19 PM
In retrospect, the Clinton years were good. No wars. A strong economy. And America was widely respected. But the Clinton's had their time in the White House, and unfortunately, Bill strayed. That left a bad taste in the mouths, even of people who suppport him.
Furthermore, Hillary claims that she is a known quantity. That's not such a great thing. Known, yes, but liked, no. And she will have a near impossible time swaying any new supporters. People have made of their minds about her,
On the other hand, Obama is fresh, bright, articluate. For the first time in a long time, there is hope on the horizon.
Let's pray he wins. And pray he delivers.
Posted by: George | Jan 5, 2008 1:58:58 PM
If people want change why Clinton. She has been in the WhiteHouse long enough to do the change but did not.
Posted by: Ambrose | Jan 5, 2008 2:00:00 PM
You guys simply have lost all objectivity. The article seems to have been written by an Obama staffer! The Obama bandwagon is full now because all of the press has piled on. I was an early rider on the bandwagon too, but became objective as the campaign has worn on.
I started out very fired up about Obama, his 2004 speech at the Democratic Convention still in my memory. New, fresh, unattached to washington, he could be "our Kennedy". Gradually though, that excitement has faded. He has slowly erased his former way of speaking, easing in an affected southern accent as he tries to channel the speech giving style of Dr. Martin Luther King. The final result of this effort was unveiled thursday evening after finishing first in Iowa. It would be great if he had not trumpeted honesty and trueness as his campaign theme early on. Speech after speech, interview after interview, we are preached at by Mr Obama and his wife. I want someone who stands for something, be true to themself, and be equipped to deal with the world and its dangers and surprises. That, the crisis, whatever it is, and it will occur, cannot be dealt with by consultants and imagemakers. Who does he have around him to advise, who is tested and ready to keep a level head when the hawks push him to bomb? He already said, off the cuff, that nukes are an option for us to keep on the table in the middle east. Now he takes it for granted that we will vote for him. He groups the 90's in with the George W. Bush years and says we should turn the page. My memory tells me, and I know many who agree, the 1990's were very good years to live in America. Only since Bush has all fallen apart. Fuel costs alone have caused me to give up all but eating, rent, and utilities. Idealism is great, but we need someone who can, by will, grit, determination, and yes even some ego, fix things!
I have considered all, and now I am comfortable in knowing that I will vote tuesday for Hillary Clinton. For the future of our young woman, I want this most capable woman elected President, I want her elected because she has an iron will to make her agenda successful. A knock on her by Mr. Obama is that she is part of a broken system, and if she was for change, then she'd have already changed it. To get anything done, she must work within the system, the republicans buck any change attempted, so to avoid gridlock, compromise must be made. Elect her though, and watch the change happen. To meet her, or see her up close is to realize that she is ready now to lead. She is so good when questiones are put to her. She is so complete in her knowledge of issues and world affairs. Most importantly though, she will be the best at dealing with world and national crisis. Something will happen, it always does, and I am most secure with giving my vote to her so she'll be the one to manage our response to it. If somehow Obama gets the nomination, I'd probably have to vote republican ( unless it is that Bush clone, Romney) I've never voted republican, but national security wins out over domestic issues, so if Hillary is not the democratic nominee next November, the vote has to go to someone like McCain. This choice would certainly bring about a horror of domestic problems. Desperate women forced to turn to coat hangers once the GOP Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade. Nominate Clinton though, and a choice like this does not have to be made.
Posted by: patrice ceeley | Jan 5, 2008 2:00:48 PM
WHAT IS CHANGE? Is it a totally new direction in policy, something that has never been tried before? Or could it be something that worked for all of us in the past, such as the economic and foreign policies of Bill Clinton. How many of us wish that we can have another Bill Clinton presidency, bringing back the glory days of a Clinton presidency. The reality is that even Obama is running on Clinton agenda. If we elect a first woman or a black as a president that would be change as well. What I want to emphasize here is that change is not trying out something new, but, it could be bringing back something that worked for all of us in the past such as the Bill Clinton era. THAT IS TRIED, TESTED AND PROVEN. In truth that is what republicans fear. Hillary is the best positioned to bring that era back. Her husband will be her most trusted confidante and advisor. A Hillary Clinton presidency will have 90 percent similarity to a Bill Clinton presidency. That is what America wants. Hillary will bring about the changes that we want. A change in our foreign policy, so that the next time I visit Europe, I will have more fiends, a universal health care (she has tried it and has the most experience on this subject, and she is the expert bar none), fair taxes and a better economy and balanced budget. That is what all of us want.
Posted by: VPNNathan | Jan 5, 2008 2:00:52 PM
I cannot wait for Debate tonight on ABC which stands for ANYONE BUT CLINTON.
GO OBAMA GO.
Posted by: Easy | Jan 5, 2008 2:04:40 PM
The greatest gift the Democrats can give to the Republicans is nominating Hillary. The country will not come together to vote her into office, she is too polarizing. With the possibility of two supreme court justice positions being filled by the next president, we as a nation need to look at the bigger picture. Our constitutional rights are at risk. We need someone to bring us together not tear us apart. Hope is something worth taking a chance on, more of the same is clearly not working. Obama in 08!
Posted by: Robin | Jan 5, 2008 2:06:54 PM
Hillary is the only one ready to be President we do know her we do know what she has done we do know she will work for us she always has. We don't know Obama we don't know what he has done we don't know who he will be working for but himself thats who he has been working for so far. Just take the time and know who you are voting for. I am sad about the way the Obama people acted at the 100 dinner in NH. It made me sick and I will not vote for Obama.
Posted by: Boatsan | Jan 5, 2008 2:07:26 PM
I might be the only one on this thread to have actually attended the 100 Club dinner last night,(as an undecided), and I would expect ABC News to at least get the facts correct. Obama did not immediately follow Clinton, Bill Richardson appeared between them. Unfortunately both of the Clinton and Obama partisens paid no attention, and gave no respect to the other speakers.
I was however, very put off by what appeared to be an orchestrated move by the Obama camp to take over the arena.
His campaign's behavior may have decided my vote.
Posted by: Bill | Jan 5, 2008 2:09:37 PM
the greatest gift we can give our children and our soldiers is a 2nd Clinton Administration
Posted by: chris | Jan 5, 2008 2:09:45 PM
Change is not always for the better ... words are easy ... change is not.
Posted by: Jackson | Jan 5, 2008 2:10:13 PM
I long for the days when I looked forward to listening to our nation's president and his advisors. During the 1960's, the Kennedys and Martin Luther King knew what the people wanted. Their speeches were eloquent and sincere.
For the past eight years I cringed every time Bush spoke. While I wanted to support a woman president in 2008, I could not bear to listen to Hillary either. Barack Obama, on the other hand, sets a tone that speaks to truth, principle, and equality. Thank you Iowa!
Posted by: Sarita | Jan 5, 2008 2:10:37 PM
If Hillary had all this experience she's bragging about, Why would she support this war? she voted and gave Goerge Bush a blank check to go to war. I was watching a interview Sen.Obama, Who voted against this war His knowledge of the region was accurate in that this war would set of Civil un-rest,If Hillary has all this expericance, Why didn't she have the insight that Sen Obama Had in 2002? Another Big Mistake Hillary made was when she and Sen Kennedy spoke at the rally for illegal immigrates,!!this rally outraged every American citizen in this country, If Hillary had all this experience Why would she support such ignorance? No Hillary is tooooo far to the left.
Posted by: Gihugh | Jan 5, 2008 2:10:39 PM
I think we're being too hard on Hillary!
She will be the "change agent" if she is elected president!
After she gets through with us all we'll have is change in our pockets!
Posted by: reaganfan | Jan 5, 2008 2:12:06 PM
ANYONE but Clinton?......it sounds like your most important goal is to see Clinton defeated....even to the detriment of the United States....
Posted by: chris | Jan 5, 2008 2:12:58 PM
As a woman I would love to see a woman president but that is not enough!! Please, do the responsible thing and choose the best person for the most important job in the world. I am convinced this person is Barack Obama.
Here is someone who is not only brilliant but caring, compassionate, and with the clearest judgement for important issues in decades. Can you just imagine him addressing a meeting of world leaders with his eloquence, intelligence, and amazing charisma? Don't miss out,elect Obama and lets start changing the world!
Posted by: millie | Jan 5, 2008 2:13:23 PM
Let me see if I get this right. "I will not vote for Obama because his supporters booed Clinton." That is about the dumbest thing I have heard in any kind of debate as to whom one will vote for as President of the US. To believe, also, that because Obama lives in a 1 million dollar home, as does Hillary, that he won't make a good president is equally stupid. "He lives in Chicago, the worst city for crime." What the hell has that got to do with the cost of tea in China? I don't believe that he was the govenor, mayor, commissioner of Police or Chief of Police. The city's crime problem, if it can be attributed to him can just as easily be attributed to you, JO T. After all, if I was going to be streching the way you are, I'd say that after you created all the problems of crime in Illinois, you decided to blame them on Obama as a sabotage tactic. Just like that doesn't make any sense, neither does any of the things you throw at Obama. Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result is called insanity.
Posted by: Slick | Jan 5, 2008 2:13:42 PM
Obama may talk a good game, but as a father, I can't afford to have someone learn on the job.....my children deserve better, and they deserve to have the best candidate become the next President.....Senator Hillary Clinton
Posted by: chris | Jan 5, 2008 2:15:02 PM
If all these candidates that are claiming experience, were capable of capitalizing on that "experience", why are we in the shape we are in now? The experience they have is in projecting the apearance of doing something while in fact doing nothing. Throw the bums out, elect someone new for a change, it can't get any worse. Were broke, we have no friends and we are governed by the dimmest and dumbest. Congretional approval is nearing single digits and the president is well below 50%.
Posted by: Ben | Jan 5, 2008 2:15:40 PM
Wow. Emotions sure are high here. Let's all relax a bit, ok? This blog was obviously meant to stir the pot. Any "news" that isn't talking about numbers or policies should NOT be enough to completely sway any of you, or you're as fragile as Karl Rove & Dick Cheney think we all are -- just sheep!!
There are very sketchy details in this story, and to assume the Obama supporters' boos were staged is quite a leap.
Personally, a lot of you are null, anyway, when you claim Obama has no specific accomplishments. Give yourself 10 or 15 minutes to visit his web site and check that out before making yourself look foolish. Not to mention his tenure as editor of the Harvard Law Review or as a highly respected professor of constitutional law.
Anyone saying Obama is just smoke & mirrors is nothing more than a cynic, and that way of thinking is never going to bring change. So, on primary day, please stay home.
OBAMA '08!!!!!
Posted by: Obama supporter in NY | Jan 5, 2008 2:17:03 PM
It is funny to read that some of you place Hillary on the right of Nixon and Reagan and others call her a "socialist"... By the way, there is nothing socialist in her health plan which is unfortunate because the best health care systems in the world are socialized (e.g. France, Germany). I also find ridiculous this obsession for "change". Of course, we all want change from the Bush white house but it does not mean we want any kind of change. I love Barack and I love Hillary but I know where she stands, I don't know where he stands (except on health care and I prefer her plan which would really bring change)
Posted by: Steph | Jan 5, 2008 2:18:16 PM
Obama cheered, Clinton booed at Dems dinner. But it was all done by Obama supporters. And they are for "hope and change"? Very disrepectful.
Posted by: ditto | Jan 5, 2008 2:18:24 PM
electing Hillary Clinton President will reap immediate benefits in the international community, whose cooperation is absolutely required to fight a successful campaign against terrorists, thus alleviating the stress and sorrow that our soldiers and their families would otherwise have to endure...
Posted by: chris | Jan 5, 2008 2:18:37 PM
Why did Karl Rove talk up Obama? Can anyone answer why? He wants you to vote Obama. They say that he is the best political startegist. After all he pulled wool over our eyes to get GWB elected a second time.
Posted by: VPNNathan | Jan 5, 2008 2:18:45 PM



