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Edwards On O’Reilly: 'He Has No Idea What He’s Talking About'

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January 16, 2008 10:42 PM

ABC News' Raelyn Johnson reports: In a campaign stop in Las Vegas, Nev., Democratic hopeful John Edwards defended himself against Bill O’Reilly’s slamming a regular part of his stump speech that thousands of homeless vets are sleeping under bridges.

“In a country with as much wealth as America has, for us to have as many as 200,000 veterans who go to bed under bridges, go to sleep under bridges, or on grates, and who are homeless... This is immoral, and it’s wrong. And we, America, we have a responsibility to do something about it,” Edwards repeated tonight, speaking at US Veterans, a non profit organization that reintegrates homeless vets back into society.

Last night, on Fox's "The O’Reilly Factor," guest Ed Schultz, a syndicated radio talk show host, suggested that Edwards needs to expand on his two Americas theme.  O’Reilly jumped in:

O'REILLY: Well, we're still looking for all the veterans sleeping under the bridges, Ed. So, if you find anybody, let us know. Because that's all the guy said for the last...
SCHULTZ: Well, they're out there, Bill, don't kid yourself.
O'REILLY: They may be out there, but there are not many of them out there, OK. So, if you know where there is a veteran sleeping under a bridge, you call me immediately, and we will make sure that man does not do it.

Tonight, speaking in front of a roomful of homeless vets, Edwards responded, “I heard that, last night, Bill O'Reilly, who's a talk show host, who's heard that I have said this about hundreds of thousands of veterans who don't have a place to live, and were homeless. And he challenged me about whether that's true or not, whether, in fact, we have that many veterans who don't have a place to live, and some of them are sleeping under bridges. Well, he ought to start by coming to Las Vegas, if he wants to know what's going on.

“America has the responsibility to do something about this. We do. And the fact that this talk show host, Bill O’Reilly, is willing to speak out that blatantly, when he has no idea what he’s talking about, is an example of how America doesn’t understand the problem, doesn’t understand how serious this issue is.”

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It is a shame that there are so many homeless much less veterans. Our country is going downhill fast. We need a government that will put our country back on the right track. That definitely means helping our homeless.

Posted by: Vicki | Jan 16, 2008 11:17:20 PM

Edwards, Clinton and Obama are interchangeable parts. They all spout the same issues. From Lebananon, it seems that the Republican candidates are more diverse when it comes to stances on issues. Us Arab women fear that the Democrats will abandon us to the savage men who have destroyed so many livs.

Posted by: Asma Bint Marwan | Jan 16, 2008 11:19:18 PM

Bill O'Reilly is a typical of Republicans who live in a make believe world where military power brings democracy and walls keep out immigrants. His ilk came into power squandered our budget surplus in the name of fiscal responsibility and worked every day to make the rich richer. It is time we see the persons in power for what they are and it is good that we are begining with their mouthpieces and puppets like Bill-O.

Posted by: Merle Savage | Jan 16, 2008 11:23:17 PM

Sorry John, nice try, but O'Reilly makes your head spin like in the movie The Exocist. Do your homework!

Posted by: Margaret | Jan 16, 2008 11:28:49 PM

Bill O'Reilly doesn't know what is he talking about. He is a radical spin master and a lier.

Posted by: Paul | Jan 16, 2008 11:31:27 PM

O'Reilly is an example of the WORST the USA has to offer. He is a fat-head with an ego... and worse yet, he is actually PAID for it by the SHAMELESS Fox news network.

Posted by: RW | Jan 16, 2008 11:32:28 PM

Asma the republicans have made things worse. If you want to stick with that side of things, go ahead.

If you have a stock broker who's continually gambling with your money and is continuously failing at his job, I guess you'd keep trusting the same guy til you have nothing left.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Josh | Jan 16, 2008 11:32:52 PM

oh sluggo, when the republicans have you living under a bridge, remember that you helped to convince people to vote you under that bridge. Here's an extra cardboard box |____| for you.

Posted by: Frustrated With The Fairy Tale | Jan 16, 2008 11:50:55 PM

it is time some people have an idea of what is going on in this country. people like bill oriley dont have a clue of what is going on here. remember when the war started they were saying lets get them bush our oil price is too high what are they saying now we can barley buy a drop now

Posted by: plaintruth | Jan 16, 2008 11:53:26 PM

O'Reilly was Right to call Edwards on the comment! Where's the Proof,
John Edwards? Please provide the
American people with proof that there are 200,000 American veterans sleeping
under bridges!
The person that doesn't know what he's talking about is John Edwards!

Posted by: reaganfan | Jan 16, 2008 11:54:47 PM

I work at a VA hospital and I know of at least 3 vets who were discharged to shelters because they were homeless. One was attacked and returned to the hospital with a broken jaw. It is a problem but don't expect Bill O'Reilly to care much less do anything. With all the money he makes he could provide hundreds of vets with decnt housing.

Posted by: April Campbell | Jan 16, 2008 11:55:11 PM

jbond posted a link here that I don't see anymore. It was nv??.org whatever, it showed state by state, with the total number being almost 196K. So for people worshiping B Film stars who committed perjury themselves 47 times under oath, or treason for not stepping down once they learned they had a disease that would impair them from being president, or for folks idolizing a president who allowed an attack on his own country so he could make a buck and shred the constitution, there are ways to google and find some answers.

Posted by: Frustrated With The Fairy Tale | Jan 17, 2008 12:21:50 AM

If they are not sleeping under some bridge someplace, they are stuck in some homeless shelter. Of course the shelters don't want them hanging around during the day, so they go to the park. Some never leave the park and that's where they sleep at night.

O'Reilly is a joke. Anyone who doesn't know this isn't much better. Anyone who doesn't know this should just pick up the phone book and look for shelters in his/her area call them an make plans to go and visit. While there, ask them to give you info. regarding other places, so you can visit those and see how over crowded they are as well.

You may even be able to tag along on a wellness ride with some community advocates or case workers. That's if one is prepared to accept the truth.

If that's to risky for you, just turn on the tv or pick up the newspaper and see/read for yourself how veterans are treated in this country; more specifically how they are treated after they have served this country.

O'Reilly should be ashamed of himself, for even trying to call Edwards out on this.

Posted by: macy w | Jan 17, 2008 12:22:36 AM

All O'Reilly cares about is keeping the fantasy going. That anytime America starts a war, it is entitled to win. That no matter how troops are treated, they always return (if at all) endowed and joyous like that Life magazine photo from 1945 taken by Alfred Eisenstaedt.

As for a common sense check: a credible professional does not lack the skill of identifying problems needing solutions to spite those who supposedly "blame America first." Like alcoholism, the first step to improvement is admitting there is a problem. And you certainly don't start out assuming any existing problems must not be substantial.

I can't imagine anyone believing what Bill O'Reilley says. All you need is a daily work commute to encounter a homeless veteran at any random place. Edwards does not even need to dignify such an absurd falsehood with a counter-attack.

People who really care about the army usually take an interest in contributing. Yes, a lot of leftists have never served the military, but they don't expect anybody else to. You lead by example if credibility matters at all.

It really is time to stop listening to the hollow opinions of people who have always had better things to do than serve America.

Posted by: Andre | Jan 17, 2008 12:23:11 AM

Is it 200,000? I don't know. Maybe 100,000? Whatever. I know there are many. But let's say their 50,000.... Oh ok... Now O'Rilley's closer to correct. Is that still acceptable. Or is it more important to ignore it and spend our energies disagreeing on the number? That is the Republican way. O'Rilley likes to be the news rather than report it.

Posted by: roy | Jan 17, 2008 12:24:43 AM

andre - You said that leftist don't serve in the military. Well, maybe alot don't because they see the hypocracy before they serve. But a lot of conservatives who serve end up being Liberal when they get discharged after experiencing it.

Posted by: roy | Jan 17, 2008 12:28:47 AM

i know a few homeless vets and i live in a small town... in fact, most of the homeless here are vets... bill oreilly is going to be a has-been very soon

Posted by: earthisnotflat | Jan 17, 2008 12:40:52 AM

Roy, that is also a very good point. Bush has not done a lot to make signing up for the military especially attractive.

Posted by: Andre | Jan 17, 2008 12:44:39 AM

Bill O'Reilly vs. John Edwards... far right against far left. A theocrat vs. a Socialist. THAT is what's wrong with America's politics; we need some MODERATES!

Posted by: rmberryman | Jan 17, 2008 1:08:34 AM

As I understand the facts, Bill O'Reilly spent the bloodiest days of combat in Vietnam as a student in England. To my knowledge, Mr. O'Reilly, as many of his right-wing colleagues at Fox, never served in the United States military. For those of us who did serve in the military, it comes as an insult that this habitual distorter of the truth can deny that countless numbers of our comrades (veterans) are homeless and "live" on the streets of America. Whether under bridges, on the sidewalks, gutters, etc., those who served America and allow Mr. Reilly the "right" to spread his venom are at this very moment scorned and discarded by our own government as if they did not exist. America one day will be held accountable not only for the manner in which it mistreated its veterans but for its squandering of billions that could have been utilized to better the lives of its citizens. President Bush, oblivious to reality, would rather spend his time dancing with the Saudi royalty and attending horse shows.

Posted by: mongo100 | Jan 17, 2008 1:10:29 AM

200,000 homeless veterans is probably an exaggeration.

But there are a lot of homeless vets and there shouldn't be a single one.

Any vet who needs it should be given housing. Period.

Posted by: Phil Murray | Jan 17, 2008 1:13:13 AM

O'Reilly is a registered independent, why folks are suggesting he speaks for just the Republicans is beyond me. I personally hear O'Reilly speak against republicans all the time.

Posted by: Darrell | Jan 17, 2008 1:27:06 AM

Our freedom has been preserved by our Veterans. ANY Vet who is turned down for medical treatment should all visit Mr. O'Reily for a loan. I am sure he has the money to help a few of our Vets.
If our politicans cared about people like John Edwards, there would not be the hate and hopelessness than abound our less fortunate citizens.

Posted by: Linda | Jan 17, 2008 1:31:03 AM

Why does Edward bother with that moron?

Posted by: tom | Jan 17, 2008 1:46:23 AM

One only needs to read this quote from the typical leftist in America:

"O'Reilly is an example of the WORST the USA has to offer. He is a fat-head with an ego... and worse yet, he is actually PAID for it by the SHAMELESS Fox news network."


Posted by: RW | Jan 16, 2008 11:32:28 PM

_____________________

To understand a problem, one must know the people who are for and against an issue in order to arrive at any sort of opinion on the issue at hand. O'reilly actually wants to help these vets, while some people want to talk about BEING FOR helping vets and the "homeless" and bash those that ACTUALLY DO. Ahh, those silly leftists.

Posted by: Tommy | Jan 17, 2008 2:04:53 AM

Has anyone told Edwards that O'Reilly is not a candidate?

Posted by: BTL musings | Jan 17, 2008 2:08:40 AM

"silly leftists"....spoken like a true anti-American :)

Posted by: chris | Jan 17, 2008 2:09:09 AM

"O'reilly actually wants to help these vets, while some people want to talk about BEING FOR helping vets and the "homeless" and bash those that ACTUALLY DO. Ahh, those silly leftists."

Why does he want to help vets? The way he's telling it on his show, apparently vets don't need any help. After all, it's just Edwards' brain sleeping under a bridge, and who wants to help him? Please explain.

You know what might have helped the vets? Bill being the first of all news network personalities to expose the substandard conditions of Walter Reed, and not do his part to help cover up.

Posted by: Andre | Jan 17, 2008 3:01:01 AM

First of all, no person in their right mind would EVER believe anything that psycho O"Really? has to say. I live in a town of 50,000 people and there are 50+ homeless vets living here. Come on sheeple, turn it OFF.

Posted by: Mary | Jan 17, 2008 3:30:44 AM

Obviously O'Reilly doesn't know what he's talking about.
Facts are anathema to him. The National Coalition for Homeless Veterans has the facts, as does the National Alliance to End Homelessness. But it's asking too much for O'Reilly to actually do a little research.

Posted by: Mark | Jan 17, 2008 3:52:51 AM

Fyi, The 200,000 figure comes from the Department of Veteran Affairs, the government agency.

Posted by: Erik | Jan 17, 2008 4:37:27 AM

2005 Veterans Affairs and the Census Bureau Data estimated that 194,254 homeless people out of 744,313 on any given night were Veterans.
I am ashamed that I am not doing more to help, not just our veterans, but others in need in my own neighborhood.

Posted by: mcelvaney | Jan 17, 2008 4:55:07 AM

Newsflash O really doesn't know much about anything. He loves to lie and brag about awards he never received. He lies about how he grew up poor. In the 1960's his father's salary was $35,000 a yr. That was considered upper middle class back then. So we all know this moron just lies, lies lies. Then you get his cool aid drinkers that defend this idiot. How pathetic.

Posted by: MR | Jan 17, 2008 5:22:20 AM

Oh yes by the way, Bill O'Reilly, go to Memphis, TN and drive around the interstate. Look up under all the overpasses and you'll see homeless people including veterans living under them. I guarantee it!

Posted by: steve | Jan 17, 2008 5:40:57 AM

John Edwards said "200,000 veterans who go to bed under bridges. Bill O'Reilly was referring to that statement. You are a homeless Veteran, according to statistics, if you live with your parents or another family member. Anyway this problem can be better handle on the state and local level. Do you think the Democrats will give the money to state governments?

Posted by: Waggdogg | Jan 17, 2008 8:13:14 AM

Mr. O'Reilly stated "So, if you know where there is a veteran sleeping under a bridge, you call me immediately, and we will make sure that man does not do it." He's FOXNews' golden boy. Start with the Las Vegas group and let him "make sure" it does not happen. Let the men sign-up and let Mr. O'Reilly put-up or shut-up! I don't think these guys would care which side of the fence their benefactor is on. Who knows, maybe this could be the first step to all of America meeting at the fence and taking it down like the Berlin Wall.

Posted by: James | Jan 17, 2008 8:25:02 AM

You realize of course that the 195,000 are those self-identified as veterans, right? Next time you see one who says he is a homeless veteran, ask him what unit he served in, who is CO was, and what type of weapon system he used.

See how often they are able to answer those questions.

Posted by: Former Infantryman | Jan 17, 2008 9:02:47 AM

Can you pay your bills? How much do you have left over afterwards? Is it enough to support one or two "homeless vets"? And why do people driving on their commute in their $35K SUVs think that every homeless guy they see is a vet? Because he's carrying a sign that says so? And you beleive that?

The problem isn't one side of this arguement or the other, its both. The neither the Democratic machine with its media puppets, or the Republican machine with its media puppets have "the people's" best interest at heart. They are, as all politicians and pontifs and preening power brokers are, interested only in staying in power, staying rich, and keeping the commoners befuddled with pointless debate, diversions, bread & circuses.

Posted by: Don | Jan 17, 2008 9:16:18 AM

Like most people who have found a way to earn millions, Bill O'Reilly seems to have lost touch with the true average American. Obviously, it is not just veterans who are homeless. This country is in crisis because it cannot/will not force big businesses to provide jobs that pay good wages to those who aren't lucky or bright enough to pay for college educations. The Republicans/conservatives seem to fear that Democrats/liberals want to spread socialism by redistributing their "hard-earned" wealth. Forget about what one's party or religion might be, aren't we ALL supposed to care about one another as the right thing to do? The Democrats/liberals seem to forget that without a strong military, this country will be overrun with crazies worse than the ones we "elect." Among all of the potential candidates, I don't feel comfortable with ANY of them being elected to head this once-and-still-great nation. Too bad Arnold isn't eligible to run for President...we need a Presinator to bang heads in the international playground and make everyone place nice!

Posted by: V for Vendetta | Jan 17, 2008 9:59:43 AM

If u disagree with Bill u are unamerican. Please do not look at the facts. Everything in life can be boiled down to a slogan. Please follow Bill - he is so fair and balnced :)

Posted by: sr | Jan 17, 2008 10:01:47 AM

20 years ago it was much worse - with about 250,000 homeless vets if you use VA's estimates. Today it is about 150,000 using VA biased estimates. That means 99.5% of vets have homes.

The VA budget has DOUBLED under Bush, clowns.

Posted by: Joe Tax | Jan 17, 2008 10:09:37 AM

HOW DARE BILL ASK FOR HIS SOURCE?

Edwards just showed us what is wrong with the US. If Edwards is going to make a claim on the number, he damn well better have facts. Instead, he knows he was caught with his pants down and has resorted to simply attacking O’Reilly since he can’t substantiate his claims. The sheer number people here who fall in lock-step behind Edwards show that people are not worried about facts or reality. They will say and do whatever they can to “win” the election.

Posted by: Joe | Jan 17, 2008 11:15:09 AM

I think it would be pretty easy to prove O'Reilly wrong. But I don't think John needs to. Go Edwards!!

And BTW, not everyone thinks "Socialist" is a bad word. I happen to think America needs a bit more socialism.

But Edwards is a far cry from a true socialist. (Look at the Socialist parties in France and Italy and compare.) But O'Reilly and his ilk are as close to fascists as we've ever had in this county!!

Posted by: Dawn | Jan 17, 2008 11:32:24 AM

They choose to be homeless...yea that's it! The military trained them to live off the land so well the veteran's have made it a lifestyle. Those veterans should be thankful for the skill set they received at the expense of hard working tax payers like Bill O'Reilly.

Posted by: Sean | Jan 17, 2008 11:42:33 AM

"Bill O'Reilly vs. John Edwards...
far right against far left.
A theocrat vs. a Socialist.
THAT is what's wrong with America's
politics; we need some MODERATES!"
Posted by: rmberryman | Jan 17, 2008

Edwards isn't a socialist. In fact
his 'rating' (based on his voting
record as a senator) showed him to
be much much more centrist than
either Obama or Clinton. If anything
Edwards is chided for now taking
positions further to the left than
his earlier voting record.

Still, how is realizing there are
homeless in America somehow socialist?
don't Republicans recognize problems
in America? Can not Repub and Dems
both recognize the same problem, but
have different solutions?

Just labeling people and calling
them nasty names isn't helpful at
all.

Posted by: MarkH | Jan 17, 2008 11:53:51 AM

I'm a veteran, and though I've been fortunate not being among the homelessness statistics, I admire Senator Edwards recognition of the homeless and his willingness to bring the issue up throughout his campaign. It's a reality that unfortunately most of us choose to ignore. Let the statistics speak for themselves. And yes....O'Reily failed to do his homework on this one...

Posted by: Derek | Jan 17, 2008 12:00:48 PM

So the next time you hand a buck or two to a guy flying a sign on a street corner, there's better than one out of three chance that he's a vet. Studies say a little more than 25% of all homeless people are vets. Kids make up an alarming percentage of the homeless...and they cannot be vets. Many women serve and have served honorably, but the military is still overwhelmingly male. So the percentage of homeless men who are vets is really, really high. The main shelter in our area is a religious outreach center that runs entirely on donations. The main day-use centers here are run by national church organizations. A few programs, such as food box sites, are helped somewhat by the United Way here, along with local churches. Homeless vets can get some government services here, like food stamps, and they can sign up at the government employment office, but jobs are scarce for them for many reasons, not the least of which is that they often have ID, address, phone number, criminal record, education, personal hygiene, or authority issues. I must say, though, that the government branch most vets see most often in this area is law enforcement. Many more could use the VA's services than those few who can get in, because the VA is swamped, and in crisis mode right now, in this area, and I hear that it is worse elsewhere. This issue is real..and it is one of those things that should not be politicized. Edwards should not be the only candidate calling attention to homeless vets, and asking that something more be done. O'Reilly should know better than to pooh-pooh the problem. One last thing: until the country puts more public resources to work for vets, we should thank those evangelicals that intellectuals like to make fun of--they are doing the most for homeless vets--at least in this area--and they are not crowing about it like politicians and commentators--they are just helping. Finally, before readers jump to any stereotypical conclusions, I must say that I am not an evangelical, and this area is far from Bible-thump Central. We are a Liberal area in a Blue state, but still, the churches are doing much of whatever is being done for homeless vets.

Posted by: SteveW | Jan 17, 2008 12:03:12 PM

I left an important word out above. The government agency most HOMELESS vets here see most often is law enforcement.

Posted by: SteveW | Jan 17, 2008 12:11:53 PM

Even worse are all the ones with PTSD, like my brother-in-law, who get no disability for it. He has PTSD and a bum leg from a terrorist attack in the Philippines, leukemia from exposure to agent orange, not covered since he was in the Philippines and not Vietnam, and about 20% credited for disability only for his leg.

Veterans are not at all well treated by the Washington bureaucracy. The veterans hospitals do all they can, and have been really good to him, but the veterans themselves so often get the short shrift from the government administrators. It is a ridiculous system.

Posted by: donna | Jan 17, 2008 1:00:13 PM

Someone should organize a rally in front of every Fox station in the U.S. of Homeless Vets until O'Reilly apologizes.

Posted by: MickNH | Jan 17, 2008 1:04:24 PM

I really wish Edwards had a shot. He has said some important things.

Posted by: Will | Jan 17, 2008 1:05:54 PM

I know a homeless vet personally. He and his friend sleep in the dirt behind and LA Fitness. It's a rough life. He served in Vietnam. There are other homeless vets all over the general vicinity where I live, I don't know them personally, but the one I know was telling my brother about the others who were vets. Billo doesn't know what he's talking about at all. They're all over. Even back in my hometown and home area, most of the bums and winos on the streets were vets. The only way you can't see that is if you just don't open your eyes to it. And frankly, I doubt any of the people who agree with Billo would so much as give a homeless vet the time of day, let alone fight to get them off the street.

Posted by: Bill | Jan 17, 2008 1:13:34 PM

"The VA budget has DOUBLED under Bush, clowns."

Sure, that's so he can look like he has a heart. Not actually have one, mind you, just so he can look as though he does.

He's a cynical prat, surrounded by loyalist cynical prats.

Posted by: broadsword | Jan 17, 2008 1:24:30 PM

I can't believe some of the people here saying that Edwards was wrong and doesn't know what he is talking about? You people obviously have access to a computer, so do you ever use one for purposes other than spouting off blind ignorance on sites like this?

GOOGLE IT!!! There are TONS and I mean TONS of non-profit organizations and government websites that confirm that there are at least around 200,000 homeless veterans, if not more. I won't even bother posting links because its that easy for you to find yourselves.

Edwards is dead on with this part of his message and, as usual, Bill O' has stuck his foot in his mouth, is DEAD WRONG and also continues to be a disgusting excuse for a human being.

For a guy who talks about "supporting the troops" so much, he obviously doesn't really give a damn. He would rather spit in the face of truth in order to save face for his own party. Thats all he cares about. This guy might as well be pissing on the graves of every brave American who ever gave their life in service and those that support him are metaphorically standing, holding "it" for him while he does so.

Absolutely revolting.

Posted by: phlesh | Jan 17, 2008 1:38:18 PM

NEVER GIVE UP ON JOHN EDWARDS. Edwards is a TAR HEEL. We TAR HEELS have our feet stuck to the mud underneath us - we WILL not retreat.

Dave - republicans are indeed evil. They should never be trusted. America WAKE UP! Wake up, nation under GOD !

O'Reilly is just another thug in the mafia. I hope President Edwards and Attorney General Kucinich send them all to GUANTANAMO WHERE THEY DESERVE TO BE.

Posted by: jef wallace | Jan 17, 2008 1:45:23 PM

I am one of those homeless vets that BillO doesn't seem to know or care about. I live in a shelter in DC along with numeorus other vets from different conflicts. I am now seeing guys coming in from OIF and OEF with PTSD and some of them need real help. I am working my way out of the situation but some of the new guys are going to be in for a world of hurt.

Posted by: MikeC | Jan 17, 2008 1:50:43 PM

Right on, Mongo100

Posted by: VietVet | Jan 17, 2008 2:11:16 PM

Americans: you have no FAR LEFT. You don't even know what that means apparently. Edwards is not far left.

You do however have a far right.

Posted by: zarathustra | Jan 17, 2008 2:11:34 PM

"With an estimated 400,000 veterans homeless at some time during the year, the VA reaches 25% of those in need ... leaving 300,000 veterans who must seek assistance from local government agencies and service organizations in their communities." Look it up, 200,000 is the minimum, and John Edwards knows what he's talking about. Bill O'Reilly is ignorant or Republican, seems the two or interchangeable terms lately.

Posted by: Brenda Montgomery | Jan 17, 2008 2:49:56 PM

oreilly is a complete IDIOT. He is the worst kind of American.

Posted by: Mike | Jan 17, 2008 2:55:34 PM

John got his figures from the...VA! They put the number at somewhere north of 195,000. Olbermann figured last night that it would cost Bill-O more than $6 billion to make good on his boast for a year. But he won't spend a dime; he's all talk and no action.

Not all homeless vets are from Iraq, but their numbers grow every day. I'm sure not all of them are actually under bridges or sleeping on grates, but many are in worse locations.

Posted by: Ben | Jan 17, 2008 3:57:07 PM

What is with all of this O'Rielly bashing? He clearly states in the exchange that there may be homeless veterans sleeping under bridges, and even offering his support to make sure that things would change. He was just calling the Edwards campaign out on where they were gathering their facts. After all, it is the Edwards campaign using homeless vets as a tool to gain favor. If the plight is so bad, and Edwards cares so much, he should be able to provide a more engaging account of examples of this crime against our vets as opposed to just fabricating statistics. Who is the real phoney here?

Posted by: Chris | Jan 17, 2008 4:09:13 PM

Why do people keep saying "check your facts, Edwards"? It isn't difficult to do. Google is a wonderful tool.

Here's a recommendation for people who insist that others check their facts ... try doing it yourself. It's incredibly easy to do.

Posted by: Fact Checker | Jan 17, 2008 4:28:59 PM

First off: "Chris", poor baby! IF you really believe the naivete' you spouted above, I REALLY have a great bridge for sale, cheap!
Secondly, to All: As a full bore Irish American (with dual citizenship), my great, humblest apologies for the likes of ethnic "kinsman" O'Reilly. Please understand that these "Shanty Irish" types, with "Lace Curtain' pretensions, have sold out their souls, spines & any ethics they may have ever learned, to never again be at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder. One has to understand/appreciate 500 years of bitter hard colonial tyranny under the Brits, to be able to appreciate how/why so many of our fellow Irish-Americans have wound up with political views to the "Right of Ghengis Khan".
Ronny Reagan - whose closing of thousands of mental health centers, first in CA as Gov; then across the country as Pres - "to help the poor, middle-class taxpayer", set their new standards, & showed them the way to totally sell out for self-gain.

So, please don't be too hard on Bill O', he's simply a little depraved, from working so hard to be accepted. When it comes to his ilk, we all - regardless of faith or other differences - need to remember what a very giving "Socialist Liberal" man said to all present, as he was being executed in a very vicious & sadicious way: "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."
Bill, like "Ronny-Babe", also suffers this all too common syndrome:
"He's seldom certain of his facts, but ALWAYS VERY, VERY sure of his opinions."

Posted by: Seamus O'B. | Jan 17, 2008 5:25:08 PM

I am a licensed social worker who has worked in homeless shelters for years. 40% of my homeless male clients are veterans. O'Reilly needs to get his facts straight. Or, better yet, he needs to walk out the door at FOX Studios in New York and ask the first couple of guys he sees begging for change, sleeping in a cardboard box, or keeping warm in the subway, if they are veterans and what was their rank and MOS. It would take O'Reilly about 5 minutes to come across several, all in walking distance of his job. He is a misinformed nutjob.

Posted by: Richard | Jan 17, 2008 7:46:13 PM

I am a vet and get my health care at a facility here in Ohio---one of their prime concerns is the number of homeless vets nationwide.
Someone said that Bush has increased funding for the VA--not for most of his time has he--in fact-I have seen cut after cut after cut at my facility--to the point that most of the employees at my center from janitors to surgeons are now doing the work of three people!!
I don't know what is worse--the ignorance of O'Reilly or those who posted stuff on here!!!

Posted by: mpgarr | Jan 17, 2008 8:33:48 PM

No matter what side your on in this debate, John Edwards got his name out there and Bill O'Reilly gave him attention no amount of money could buy. Nice going. I am sure there are homeless Vets, how many I don't know. Does not matter, 1 is too many. In fact, 1 person is too many in this land of wealth. I got it. The perfect economic package - every one that has millions should be required to spend so much by a certain time. Bush can be the starting spender. This is his, at least in part, his war. That should get us all working again at a living wage. The rich need to part some of theirs or take a cut in pay. So what they pay some homeless person $15.00 an hour to sort some, I am sure they got paid more than that for some small they did. John, stand up and be counted!! Thanks Bill!!

Posted by: Patty | Jan 17, 2008 9:52:41 PM

You want proof??? Go to the VA's homepage, the facts are there.

Posted by: Eli Harold | Jan 17, 2008 11:22:05 PM

Oooooh....Edwards was so angry.....But I don't think he can help the homeless; nor even the working class. Hillary's got a good hold over the working class - and deservingly.

Posted by: PeaceOnEarth | Jan 18, 2008 1:02:21 AM

to vickie
what the h-ll are u talking about. huckabee said yesterday that we should stop most arabs from coming in to the US. is that prejudice or not? you are a gop plant

Posted by: moose | Jan 18, 2008 7:50:55 AM

Do any of you actually READ? Or do you all just go with what everone else thinks? Good God, get a clue people...Bill O'Reilly is railing against John Edwards because the fact is that Senator Edwards is blaming the economy and only the economy for the ills of any and all homeless Veterans. Never does he mention the mental illness or drug / alcohol abuse that many if not most are dealing with. As far as the actual number; guess what? No one has a CLUE to what the actual number of homeless vets there are!! It could 200,000; it could 20,000. And if the "good" Senator is so worried about the homeless vets living on the streets, than maybe the Senator can take a few to his spacious estate in North Carolina; God knows how many vets he can house there...

Posted by: Kris | Jan 18, 2008 9:02:24 AM

I certainly commend John Edwards for bring the serious issue of homeless in America. However, I have a problem with Edwards choosing to live in a secluded sprauling palace when he talks about "two kinds of Americas". There is something disingenous or perhaps a character flaw in someone who is so animated about poor people but, on the other hand is quite comfortable in their own skin living an over-the-top lavish lifestyle. Nothing against Edwards personally but, either I don't get it or worse, Edwards doesn't.

Posted by: tomcat27834 | Jan 18, 2008 9:59:50 AM

So much for painting the media as liberal. B.O should talk to any VA in the country as I bet the #s are above 200,000 SHAME on BO and the USA

Posted by: paula | Jan 18, 2008 12:19:07 PM

Please, don't tell me anyone still believes what Bill O'Reilly says. This nation has a homeless vet problem, it has a mental illness vet problem and it has a health/medical care vet problem.

Posted by: sodiedog | Jan 18, 2008 6:12:12 PM

FDR provided jobs for Americans by creating jobs rebuilding the infrastructure of America (roads, bridges, etc.)

We could provide Americans with jobs by creating jobs to build some sort of decent dwelling for the homeless vets.

I met a vet who fought in many wars and he had a shabby drab apartment but he had a home because of benefits. But he wasn't brain-damaged like a lot of the homeless vets are. Not all are brain-damaged but many have ruined their health from living on the streets. The brain requires proper nurishments. Many were damaged from opium that was distributed to vets during Nam in order to impair their mental faculties so they couldn't fight and wouldn't be aware that they could not win.

I believe firmly that Nam was started in order to illiminate the race of people who greatly helped found America, the race that gave us our Constitutional laws which arose out of their personal hardships that they escaped by coming here, I speak of the Scots-Irish people who were the largest number of fatalities in Vietnam. I beleive it was a form of genocide that was deemed necessary in order to progress to the removal of our rights today via various acts and threats to Americans. Vietnam was a step toward destroying the middle class and working class of Americans who knew of their rights and the history of our nation. The Scots-Irish knew the games the kings and queens played and our Constitution reflected those games and how we could win by declaring our rights and protecting them. We've been reduced, or rather, thrown back to the days of fighting the mentality of wannabe kings and queens.

Vietnam was genocide against Anglo Americans not by them. We were pitted against another nation just as had been done to peoples of Europe hundreds of years ago.

Posted by: Robbed Writer | Jan 19, 2008 9:56:23 AM

Another point on this subject is that just because Reagan created a policy that was supposedly to cut spending doesn't mean that we can't reverse a policy that we learned was wrong. We didn't know vets would be put out. Progress means steering ourselves back on the path as we move ahead, reeling ourselves if we overcorrect. It's been realized that the vets are one of many priorities.

Posted by: Robbed Writer | Jan 19, 2008 10:14:41 AM

1. The facts cited by Edwards come from the VA itself.

2. If Bill O wants to help, fine. Will a shelter in New York City please deliver five or six homeless vets to Bill's apartment every evening at 7:00 so that they can spend the night in warm comfort? That will do. Thank you.

Posted by: AtticusinPa | Jan 19, 2008 10:48:31 AM

I think his name says it all: "O'Really?" The things he spouts off with....should make any thinking person throw their TV in the trash. We don't need a "Culture Warrior"....we need an "Idiot Warrior" to stop idiots like "O'Really".

Posted by: TBrad | Jan 19, 2008 11:08:49 AM

So o'rielly concedes there is a homeless problem in the US....

Instead of attacking Edwards for the number cited...why doesnt he offer up something constructive to confront the issue????

Oh yes...he's a republican spin doctor with little or no moral compass...

Posted by: Peebs | Jan 19, 2008 11:08:49 AM

Bush's own Veterans' Administration director says there are 200,000 homeless veterans. That they're all sleeping under bridges is doubtful. That there that many who meet the government criteria for homelessness, there is little doubt. Folks who defend Fox News have no standing as long as Fox continues to include a delusional, pompous blowhard perpetrator of sexual harassment in its cable programming.

Posted by: mikeinwaco | Jan 19, 2008 4:27:17 PM

O'Reilly is the one who should check his facts. Homeless veterans are such a problem that the VA website has an entire section on services devoted to them. Here's an excerpt:
"About one-third of the adult homeless population have served their country in the Armed Services. Current population estimates suggest that about 195,000 veterans (male and female) are homeless on any given night and perhaps twice as many experience homelessness at some point during the course of a year. Many other veterans are considered near homeless or at risk because of their poverty, lack of support from family and friends, and dismal living conditions in