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Huckabee Won't Answer Question on Confederate Flag
January 17, 2008 8:44 PM
ABC News' Kevin Chupka Reports: In what was an apparent attempt to woo conservative votes in South Carolina, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee began speaking today about the state's flag. At an event in Myrtle Beach on Thursday Huckabee told supporters gathered in an airplane hangar, "You don't want anyone from out of state comin' down and telling you what to do with your flag. In fact, if somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag we'd tell them where to put the pole."
The comment seemed to refer to the fact that for years the Confederate flag flew over the state house in Columbia, South Carolina. Under the leadership of then Governor David Beasely (now Huckabee's South Carolina State Chair) a bill was introduced to remove the flag. Eventually a compromise that moved the flag to a Confederate memorial on the grounds of the state house was reached but not before it arguably ruined any chances Beasley had for reelection.
At a media availability Thursday night in Columbia Huckabee was asked to clarify his comments and whether or not he supports the flying of the Confederate flag. He refused to answer the question at hand, saying only that it was a state issue that doesn't concern the President.
One reporter followed-up, "For many African Americans and no doubt some others its seen as a sign kinda potent with racist imagery -and also reflects a time of ultimate division within this country. I'm not clear why as President that wouldn't be in fact, arguably very appropriate for someone to weigh in on."
Huckabee would not take the bait and merely said his response stood as it was, "it is not an issue that the President of The United States needs to weigh in on," adding that he had the support of many African Americans in Arkansas while serving as Governor, "I got it by serving the people of my state not getting involved in the affairs of somebody else's state."
It seems strange that Huckabee would bring up the issue for the first time this campaign, unprompted, two days before the primary here. It is an issue not even on the table here. Huckabee often jokes about pandering to voters; perhaps this time it's no joke.
January 17, 2008 in Giuliani, Rudy | Permalink | User Comments (59)
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To The Commander Guy.....
"Most of us enlightened folk who live outside the Mason Dixon line will be telling old racist Huck exactly where exactly he can put his Confederate pole."
Do you even realize the contradiction in your statement? If not, no worries, we can.
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 12:36:02 PM
Mr. Huckabee is abusing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. His campaign would be dead if people didn't know he was Baptist. He has very little qualifying him to do anything. By the way that "ordained Baptist Minister" apparently doesn't even have a theology degree.
Ron Paul was our best hope for improvement. Mitt Romney is looking now like the best ooption. He is a strong Christian and a very very very smart man. You don't graduate Cum Laude from Harvard and BYU without being brilliant. Get behind him if you want to do more good than the harm that Huckabee would be to this country. He'd get toasted against Hillary or Obama.
Posted by: Soldier | Jan 18, 2008 12:40:39 PM
Soldier wrote: "apparently doesn't even have a theology degree."
Oh the uninformed shall troll the boards of the world...
"While Ron Paul Pawns and other anti-Huckabee folk are salivating over this hopeful lie of Huckabee’s about this theology degree, but in the end they will discover it is only exposing their ignorance.. They (like even apparently media reporting this story) show a clear misunderstand the theological world and biblical education. Biblical education and theology were a part of Huckabee’s undergraduate degree–which he obtained with an emphasis in speech and communications as well. Courses on bible and theology are required in every Christian college and university–as core requirements, despite one’s emphasis or even major. Then Huckabee completed roughly 50 units of his graduate degree in seminary. In many seminaries an M.A. can be obtained by one year’s training–sometimes two–or the equivalent of 50 or so units. There are two year Master’s degrees. Then there is a three-year Master of Divinity. A doctorate in theology can either be a D.Min (Doctorate of Ministry) or Ph.D. (Doctorate of Philosophy), depending upon the specialty–the D.Min. can also be obtained in a fairly minimal amount of time on top of a master’s degree. Bottom line, when was says one has studied theology or a degree in theology (study of God), it can mean one’s major has incorporated theology (or biblical education in it)–which Huckabee’s B.A. or B.S. did. It can also mean (as some schools) that one has studied comparative religions. It can also mean that one has studied historical or biblical theology within a degree of another emphasis. Saying one has a “degree in theology” is a very general classification. There are many forms of theology–historical, biblical, patristic, medieval, modern, etc. It would not be a lie AT ALL for Huckabee to say he had a degree in theology, when he completed his B.A. or B.S. which had biblical education courses and theology in it. In the evangelical world, to say one has a degree in theology means one has a degree in which one studied God–that is it. Huckabee did that. EVEN MORE, he completed nearly 50 units in seminary–which could give him a one-year master’s degree in many seminaries. Of course his degree plan was not one of those one-year plans, but he still did the equivalent of them. Bottom line, as I said above, it was not a lie. He did have a “degree in theology” from his undergraduate work. Even Huckabee’s aide should have known the difference and clarified that the “theology” he was speaking about was that Huckabee didn’t have a “degree in comparative religions,” which was the context of those discussions.
Huckabee’s response is therefore ACCURATE….
“I have a Bachelor of Arts in religion and a minor in communications in my undergraduate work,” Huckabee answered. “And then I have 46 hours on a master’s degree at Southwestern Theology Seminary. So, my degree as a theological degree is at the college level and then 46 hours toward a masters – three years of study of New Testament Greek, and then the rest of it, all in seminary was theological studies, but my degree was actually in religion.” [“Religion” of course being “Christianity”—which is a THEOLOGICAL study!]"
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 12:47:21 PM
That wasn't a "Froidian slip". I meant "option" not "ooption". "As you were".
Posted by: Soldier | Jan 18, 2008 12:47:52 PM
Wendy, while I will agree, the McCain / Huckabee "alliance" is a bit peculiar (and favors McCain much more than Huckabee), I just can go with you on "McCain will say do anything to become the Commander and Chief of this nation."
While he did not get my vote in MI, the man does not win Republican of the Year awards from his peers and often disagrees with constituents.
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 12:56:27 PM
Sean is right about McCain. He has his own opinion and that is what he takes to washington. Not a real good "representative". Most people who liked him in Arizona don't anymore because he doesn't do his job - represent the state.
Posted by: Soldier | Jan 18, 2008 1:02:41 PM
As an African American, I can say that the flag ticks me off royally and I am being kind. HOWEVER, I do realise that people who are alive today have relatives who fought under that flag and though I disagree with their position, it does not mean I should be able to wipe out their history. The civil war was about much more than slavery and there were blacks who fought under that flag. Those are little known but historical facts. It is a States issue and Huckabee is wise NOT to express his opinion because a President's opinion carries more weight (like it or not). And both sides just want to have that opion on THEIR side. Let the people of SC decide and let's not say that just because someone wants the flag to stay they are automatically a racist (most may be, probably are). Maybe they just don't want their history trampled on. There really is such a thing as being TOO POLITICALLY CORRECT!
Posted by: Robert | Jan 18, 2008 1:05:28 PM
Well put Robert...
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 1:06:59 PM
Soldier, love him... hate him... Huckabee is qualified Theologian. The irony for me is I'm agnostic and arguing for the proper cred for the man.
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 1:12:16 PM
Robert wrote:"As an African American, I can say that the flag ticks me off royally and I am being kind. HOWEVER, I do realise that people who are alive today have relatives who fought under that flag and though I disagree with their position, it does not mean I should be able to wipe out their history. The civil war was about much more than slavery and there were blacks who fought under that flag. Those are little known but historical facts. It is a States issue and Huckabee is wise NOT to express his opinion because a President's opinion carries more weight (like it or not). And both sides just want to have that opion on THEIR side. Let the people of SC decide and let's not say that just because someone wants the flag to stay they are automatically a racist (most may be, probably are). Maybe they just don't want their history trampled on. There really is such a thing as being TOO POLITICALLY CORRECT!"
Well, Robert, it is nice to hear a voice of reason from a black guy (I am guessing you are black because I have white friends from Africa who could be called "African Americans"). As an American of no particular continental ancestry I think Mike side stepped the question. You are right that it is not a Presidential question but it would have been a good opportunity to weigh in on and tell about his perspective as a man from the South.
Posted by: Soldier | Jan 18, 2008 1:16:35 PM
Thank you Sean for your comment on the last post.
There are no perfect candidates out there. I am already "wierd" in a lot of circles because I'm a repub and an African American. I think Gov Huckabee shows the right balance on Social and economic issues. People concentrate on his being a pastor but he was a Gov for 10 years and surely the people of Ark aren't crazy enough to keep a "christian Zealot" in office that long. Maybe he means what he says and works at what is best for the people. I believe that to be the case and that's why he gets my vote tommorrow. I hope he wins but please. ANYBODY BUT MCCAIN!
Posted by: Robert | Jan 18, 2008 1:21:54 PM
Soldier, yes I am black, colored, african American all those things we have been in America over time. Anyway, it would be nice if the Gov could be that transparent but he can't because the media would take his position and run with it, disect it and make into what they want, not to mention what the side to which is opinion benefited would do. He is no longer just a man from the south. He is a man from the south running for president. That's the reality and the fact that he was aware enough not to be sucked in by the reporter should speak volumes in a positive way. Oh by the way, there are plenty of us black folks we just don't have the forum of Jackson & Sharpton et al.
Posted by: Robert | Jan 18, 2008 1:29:27 PM
Agreed Rob, the question is Bush League and is politically loose loose if answered.
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 1:35:11 PM
As always, the huck is nothing more then a snake. He push polls,then denies he's doing it. He shows an attack ad to the media he's not going to use because he's too nice of a guy. He makes snide comments and then tries to act innocent about it. He lets criminals go and pays for illegals benefits [not their tax money] now he wants to send em all back. This guy is a joke. This crap may have worked when he was the media liaison for his religious organization, and his followers may think he's being clever, but the rest of us view this puke with ever greater disgust. He's bad for the republican party and he bad for the image of evangelicals.
Posted by: Rico | Jan 18, 2008 1:37:32 PM
Robert, he (Mike H.)was wise to sidestep what may have been a trap but I would still like to know how he feels about it. There seem to be a lot of things that he avoids. What I like about Mitt is that he isn't afraid to talk and reason through issues - whatever they are.
Posted by: Soldier | Jan 18, 2008 1:40:36 PM
If all that is true, why did the voters in his state have him as governor for over 10 years? Why did he win Iowa? Why does he have the 2nd most delegates? Why will he win SC?
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 1:42:58 PM
Soldier, Mitt is kinda like a pancake to me. you know it's good to eat but you have to admit that you have to flip it a few times before it's ready to consume and is it REALLY good for you or just good! Mitt seems a little to slick in some cases. Like he is trying to hard and is talking seems most of the time trying to see if the person he is talking to is nodding his/her head and then he'll know how or what to keep talking about. But with all that said, he is my second choice because I think he could win in November and I think he probably would be a good president. I just wish he came across a little better.
Posted by: Robert | Jan 18, 2008 1:51:33 PM
Wow...as someone who has been totally Pro Huckabee and Pro Bush ...I have too say I am disappointed he would even make mention of that issue. And I agree that as someone representing himself to be a Chrisian Leader that that kind of talk about where they can put the pole in unneccasary, inflammatory, and in really poor taste. I speak as a fundamentalist, evangelical...I am really disappointed in some of Governor Huckabee's remarks as of late and think I may throw my support behind Ron Paul who seems to be a little more thoughtful and weighs his words before he speaks.
Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | Jan 18, 2008 1:58:45 PM
What comments Tim?
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 2:00:29 PM
"Hickabee will soon be back in Arkansas, anyway.a beautiful state. He is not ready for prime time."
So they said of Bill Clinton...
Posted by: Sean | Jan 18, 2008 2:07:14 PM
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