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Obama on 'Lawyers Getting Involved' in Nevada
January 14, 2008 7:10 AM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller and David Wright Report: Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama appeared before the Nevada Culinary Workers union for the second time in three days, for a canvass kickoff event.
But Obama opened his remarks by offering up his opinion on a lawsuit recently filed seeking to prevent caucuses from being held in nine casinos on the strip.
"I noticed that ever since I got the support of local 226 that the lawyers that decided to get involved, huh?," Obama told the crowd of union members, "You know you notice that the rules were okay as long as you did what they wanted you to do."
The lawsuit, filed against the Nevada Democratic Party, takes issue with the nine "at large" caucus locations at casinos on the strip. On Saturday, caucus day, workers will be able to tale a break in order to caucus in their casino location, rather than trudging home to caucus.
"They all agreed to how this was going to work, so the notion now that six days before the caucus that they are gonna to try to disenfranchise the hard working folks on the strip, culinary workers, but also folks who are working at the McDonald's on the strip," Obama said, "You don't serve
democracy by trying to keep people out. You're supposed to try to bring them in and encourage everybody to get involved."
Obama concluded by shouting "Are we gonna let a bunch of lawyers try to prevent us from bringing about change in America?"
The crowd shouted back "No."
Obama then went to a local middle-class Las Vegas neighborhood, shirt sleeves rolled up, and knocked on doors for thirty minutes.
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Its always about hurting poor Mr. Obama, Poor Poor Mr. Obama. Give me a break.
Then we should have voting cites in the malls, in the coffee shops, in the hospitals....Poor Mr. Obama, Just put the issues and discuss de resume. Thats all. I hope the American People are brighter this time and think about experience. It hurts the whole world when they make a mistake.
Talk about the issues, dont bring your great Country go back to the 60's on the race issue, The clintons certainly have not.
Ant the media should be more responsible on this issue.
May the best win
Posted by: angelfrankie | Jan 14, 2008 8:55:00 AM
Um, bitter much?
Obama is correct, why bring a lawsuit now when this had been decided months and months ago? How does pointing out dirty politics make him a whiner?
I am sick of this kind of garbage GW is the master of that and the Clintons are showing they are no better-it makes me feel ashamed to live in this country.
Posted by: carrie | Jan 14, 2008 9:47:01 AM
I am very concerned that Obama shouts racism each time his policies and inconsistencies are questioned. He said he taught the constitution and unlike George Bush will respect the laws of the land. Now he is attacking lawyers who are requesting the U.S. and the Nevada electoral laws be respected. He wants to use racial divide and violated electoral laws to win his bid for the White House. I deeply regret the vote I wasted on this man in New Hampshire.
Posted by: Bob Lash | Jan 14, 2008 10:25:58 AM
Obama hasn't brought race up, other people not even associated with his campaign have. They have responded to some comments but they never said anything that could be considered 'playing the race card'.
Posted by: sammy | Jan 14, 2008 11:07:46 AM
It's not about race. It's about the caucus rules being set mounths ago and when it looks like somebody could beat Hillary then the lawyers step in and want changes. If Edwards had won NH, you can bet this same thing would have happened. She'll stop at nothing to take the nomination. She's the one who is so 1960s..you had to been alive then to know that.
Posted by: up stae NY | Jan 14, 2008 11:10:47 AM
Why all of a sudden the lawsuit then? Don't be blinded by Clinton's legal tricks, she has used them before and she will use them as long as she can to get what she wants..
Posted by: carmen | Jan 14, 2008 11:14:53 AM
Obama has not been crying "victim" as some of these comments suggest. Charges of subtle racism have been made by people outside of the Obama campaign and he has little to no control over what they say. Hillary Clinton sat on the SAME STAGE while the head of BET made disgusting comments about Obama and she can get away with that? The Clintons are using slash and burn tactics because they are freaked out about losing. This lawsuit in Nevada only came up AFTER the Culinary Union endorsed Obama last week. The plan for special polling places has been in place for a year and the Teachers Union all of a sudden has a big problem with it? Even if they have "legitimate" concerns, their timing is really lousy.
Posted by: Maria | Jan 14, 2008 12:00:33 PM
Maria I agree. The person who has been crying victim all this time is the Hillary camp. They started crying even before the Iowa results were in! If it wasn't her, it was her husband, campaign staff or friends. They blamed: the media, the Obama camp, the Edwards camp, the Iowa voters, sexism, everyone but themselves. These nostalgic Clinton people need to wake up. With tactics such as these, she may win the nomination but she will not win the general election....Not all of us are as in love with the Clintons as others.
I would rather vote against her than for her, if she is the type of person she is being displayed as or the surrogates are the types of people she associates with. Currently all I'm seeing is one dumb thing after another.....where will it end?
Posted by: Andrew | Jan 14, 2008 12:26:52 PM
Dear voting friends: do not be fooled by Obama's folkish appeal. He is not some country boy that has raised himself by his own bootstraps. On his own website, Mr. Obama informs us that he is a HARVARD educated lawyer. His appeal to the masses against evil lawyers is transparent political posturing. His under estimation of the American people should be treated with the utmost disgust. In a race where he is pretending to run as a "candidate of change," the only change he brings is the color of his skin.
Posted by: Ben | Jan 14, 2008 12:58:49 PM
These Las Vegas caucus sites were approved nine months ago. The other unions, including the teachers, made no objection at any time.
Yet only now, two days after Obama gets the Culinary workers endorsement, do lawyers with ties to the Clintons file suit? It absolutely reeks.
It's especially galling that a teachers union would file suit, since teachers don't even have to work on Saturdays when the caucus will take place. Meanwhile, casino employees will be swamped with tourist business because of the MLK holiday weekend rush.
I can't believe Hillary and her supporters have stooped to this level, trying to make it even harder for working class people to vote.
Posted by: Sage | Jan 14, 2008 1:01:50 PM
Sen Reid was going to "deliver" the NV caucaus for HRC. Therefore, all parties in the NV Dem Party directorate (including the lawsuit plaintiffs) agreed to these at-large caucaus sites thruout 2007.
The unions were expected to endorse HRC. But Culinary defied the Power Elite. HRC & Reid's "fix" backfired. LoL
Therefore, the NSEA Teachers via HRC's atty, former Rep Bilbray filed this suit.
Hillary's response was transparently evasive.
Apparently, IF the FIX doesn't go as planned, 39,000 poor Vegas Strip voters will just have to be suppressed, to enable the FIX to proceed as planned.
I was considering supporting her if she won. Now I believe she has more power lust to expand the imperial presidency than even Bushco! No way!
Posted by: DonW | Jan 14, 2008 1:07:50 PM
Obama certainly didn't have a problem bringing in the lawyers when he first ran for public office. His attack dogs not only got Alice Palmer, the incumbent and a well-respected civil rights leader, kicked off the ballot, they managed to get all of Obama's competitors kicked off as well so that he could run unopposed.
Investigoogle Alice Palmer and Obama for yourselves. Sure, he felt bad about it (guess it was another "bonehead mistake") but he sure as heck didn't stop it from happening. Very much like Huckabee showing the attack ad he wasn't going to run.
Posted by: Kathy Sammons | Jan 14, 2008 2:16:48 PM
Obama has plenty of "bonehead mistakes," so he has plenty of exaggerations in his achievements. Wondering when all the real facts about this guy are going to start coming out. Thats why he's trying to do a preemptive move shielding himself from attacks by using the race card.
Posted by: Teri | Jan 14, 2008 2:25:33 PM
Those low class Clintons aren't aren't even worthy of the office of Presidency! If they really thought they could win why all of these lowbrow tactics???? They are TERRIBLY afraid of Senator Obama. The ONLY way they can win is if they cheat someone and this is one way for them to cheat! God is watching! I can not wait until all their dirty tactics EXPLODE in their faces!
I also blame the MSM for all of this nonsense! Stop focusing on this crap and stick to the issues! I think EVERYONE---no matter whose side you are on are tired of this now! STOP IT!!!!!
Posted by: Shelly | Jan 14, 2008 2:47:45 PM
I am tired of to much attention on Hillary and Obama, they both represent the status quo, nothing new, why they are both getting money from the same Wall Street guys, fighting for their same lobbyist practically, and getting all the support from the same politicians in Washington that haven't change anything. They both should go!
Edwards is the man, he is the guy with the back bone, courage to face those powers, even tho that the media ignore him, Hillary and Obama copy all his agenda and the political establishment will fight him. They are scared of the guy. Go Edwards!
Posted by: Edwards is the best | Jan 14, 2008 2:55:47 PM
Clinton didn't bring the lawyers into it until AFTER she lost the endorsement of the uniions. She screwed up by bringing in the lawyers and should have worked to sway the vote.
Posted by: Louis | Jan 14, 2008 3:58:18 PM
Hey 'Bob Lash', just because Bill Clinton sez it, doesn't make it true. Obama has NEVER cried about racism. But you are having a 'knee-jerk' reaction by assuming he is because the topic came up. So what does that make you??? Funny how whites call blacks racists for bringing attention to white racism. Now that's irony.
And 'Ben', I see it bothers you that Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. Did it bother you that Bill Clinton is also an Ivy League, Rhodes Scholar educated lawyer?? Or that Bush is a Yale MBA grad? Probably not right?
Some of you are really entertaining with your neurosis.
Posted by: ROB | Jan 14, 2008 4:30:46 PM
Louis! *clap clap clap*
I couldn't have said it better!!!
Posted by: HC | Jan 14, 2008 5:05:09 PM
Let's talk about the issues---- who's got the message that Nevada wants to hear? This is a very tight race---- a statistical dead heat at this point. The man who saw months ago that "it's the economy" and came up with a stimulus plan he put in print months ago deserves some credit. John Edwards is and has been speaking to the issues that working men and women know can change their futures. Look at the plans, look who's staying on message... a message that actually means something to most of us.
Posted by: susjo | Jan 14, 2008 5:22:43 PM
Instead of responding to a reasonable issue raised by obama, you decided to do unwarranted attack on his person. You got nothing on him and you know that. Every thing Hillary does is good even when it's obviously wrong.
Posted by: chyke | Jan 14, 2008 6:17:47 PM
I can see why this lawsuit would be brought up. It deems unfair to me that certain groups get preferential treatment and have caucuses done right where they work while other workers who are not able to attend because they can't get time off of work would be disenfranchised. Why do the Culinary workers' votes count more than say, teachers. The caucuses themselves seem to be undemocratic. And on top of it, Obama is the biggest hypocrite of them all. I don't see him complaining now about the "special interest" in politics. In Iowa, he was complaining how unethical the unions that were supporting Edwards and Clinton were, and he basically labeled them as special interests. This is hypocrisy at it worst!
Posted by: Jessica | Jan 14, 2008 6:21:46 PM
Oh and on another note, IMO it was wrong for the Culinary Workers to endorse Obama when their rank and file members were not asked to weigh in the decision to support him. There wasn't even a poll taken or anything, this decision came from the top only. It now makes sense to me because I actually found it odd at the time that the union decided not to endorse Clinton, or Edwards for that matter, because its members seem to be more in line with their constituencies. The working class and Hispanics are overwhelmingly for Cliton, I just hope they have the guts to break away from their union and vote for who they wish. All this seems so undemocratic to me, I can't believed that the party even agreed to caucuses in NV,
Posted by: Jessica | Jan 14, 2008 6:30:54 PM
I can not back Obama - first because of the inexperience and lack of a record. He never voted for the War big deal he just did not vote. How many of you backed the war....look what happened to the Dixie Chicks when they spoke against the war. Politicians voted the way you wanted them to so don't always blame them for being your voice. You were okay with it and Bush. Not it is a different story.
Posted by: hopelesspolitics | Jan 14, 2008 7:05:20 PM
Democrats trying to disenfranchise minority voters? This is something I never thought I would have ever heard of in my entire Democratic life, but that is because it is UNHEARD OF. The reason we are seeing such strange behavior in this particular Democratic race is because WE THE PEOPLE of the United States of America need to recognize that the Bush-Clintons are trying to create a type of political dynasty. For example Edwards and Obama are rivals and although they differ on many things remain civil but it is the Clinton camp keeps throwing all these vicious in the road. Down with the WASHINGTON HYPOCRISY NO MORE BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON-JEB BUSH? DYNASTY!!!
Posted by: candycoated | Jan 14, 2008 9:52:02 PM
Rob,
My efforts at bringing up Obama's Harvard education was not to snub lawyers or Harvard, both are honorable in large part. The point is obvious. "His appeal to the masses against evil lawyers is transparent political posturing." He is a lawyer trying to portray himself as opposing evil lawyers, while being one of them.
Additionally, his populist appeal is rather off base given his Ivy League Education... he is not "one of us." He certainly isn't representing any kind of change.
Posted by: ben | Jan 15, 2008 11:02:37 AM
Ben: Not "one of us," huh? Normal people can't get scholarships to prestigious universities based off their own hard work, I guess? I suppose your theory is that he got into Harvard based off inherited wealth and family connections.
And just what did Obama do, after graduating near the top of his class from a prestigious school like Harvard? The Big Bucks on Wall Street were certainly open to someone with those credentials. A number of big private firms as well, I imagine. But Obama, he went back to Chicago and became a community organizer, making $12,000 a year. Yeah. What a corporate shill.
Jessica: The Culinary workers don't count more than the teachers. The big difference is that the primary is being held on a Saturday. I don't believe school is in session on Saturdays. Casinos are operating though.
Also, speaking as an Iowan, I must have missed where Obama called unions unethical while campaigning here. He called taking campaign money from the lobbyists they hire in Washington unethical, much as Edwards did.
Posted by: Stu | Jan 15, 2008 3:24:15 PM
This is a good sign for OBAMA. Most of yeh people now are going vote for BARACK OBAMA because of this lawsuit.E will now vote for him vehemently.OBAMA, GO ALL THE WAY !!!!!!!!
Posted by: I.A.T. Smith | Jan 16, 2008 12:05:27 PM
Ben,
I'm sure that lawyers across the country, especially those who know Sen. Obama personally, understand that he wasn't calling all lawyers evil. He probably didn't mean to say that the lawyers involved in this case were necessarily evil all the time. But if they were lawyers who believed in doing the right thing, then they would never have taken the case. The state Dem. party and the Dem. National Committee had agreed upon the at-large caucuses at casinos way back when Hillary was saying that her nomination was inevitable and she had a lot of people believing it. As long as it seemed that she would win by a landslide, the at-large caucuses were fine with her. But when it became possible that those caucuses could benefit a candidate other than herself, then she tried to fix that problem. I would like to note that Sen. Obama could have challenged the at-large casinos idea months ago when it looked like the Culinary Union might back Edwards or Clinton, but he did not. He was/is a civil rights lawyer and I'm sure that he did not want to prevent anyone from voting, whether they voted for him or not, since people who work on Sat. might really not be able to travel to their home precinct to caucus. But the Clinton camp would be willing to prevent people from voting if there's a strong chance that many of them will be voting against her. So, the "evil" here lies in the fact that if something benefits Hillary, then it's okay, but if it boomerangs and benefits another candidate, then it's not okay. Thank God for the judge who was not willing to okay this evil attempt at injustice.
Sen. Obama is running as a candidate who happens to be black, not as a black candidate. The Clintons attack Obama over and over again, but when Obama responds, then the Clintons say that it was all his fault somehow. (It's like the 90's again, when every crooked, immoral, unethical, and/or illegal deal the Clintons ever pulled was nothing more than the imagination of that vast right-wing conspiracy, as Hillary tells it ... except right now, it's Obama who is somehow to blame for the Clintons' latest mistakes and mis-speaks). I certainly will vote against Hillary in the primary and in Nov., if she wins the nomination. I could learn to live with any of the other candidates, although Obama is my choice, but I really can't stomach any more of the Clintons' dirty tricks.
Posted by: janice | Jan 18, 2008 10:09:31 PM
PS. Correction: Now that I re-read the article, I see that it was Ben, rather than Sen. Obama, who referred to the lawyers as "evil." Sen. Obama only called them "a bunch of lawyers." Sorry about my mistake. But I think it waaas evil of them to try to win an injustice in court.
Posted by: janice | Jan 18, 2008 11:58:19 PM
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