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February 23, 2008 9:33 AM

ABC's Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton took another moment last night in Toledo, OH to thank and recognize the local police officer who lost his life earlier in the day while riding in her motorcade. She thanked the law enforcement officials that work for Americans and included other laborers in this country, including “nurses that work the night shift.”

Clinton, trying to appeal to the crowd, said “I grew up in the Midwest and I have all of those Midwestern values that we share about what it is life is all about. We don’t expect anybody to give us anything; we expect to work for it –- we always have. We take individual responsibility and we are self–reliant.”

Hitting on NAFTA and trade, Clinton energetically spoke to the crowd, trying to make her case. “Sometimes people say to me 'You get worked up',” Clinton said. “…You know that’s right, I do … I think the American middle class and working people are worth getting worked up about!”

Clinton started asking “why?” in Ohio late Friday night. “Why, why aren’t there the kind of jobs that will give us a good solid middle class lifestyle?” Clinton continued, “Why can somebody work full-time and not have a wage that lifts that person and his or her family out of poverty?”

“Some people think either those questions don’t have answers or that the answers are basically 'well, you know that’s the way it used to be but that’s not the way it is anymore' -- I reject that, I reject that with all my heart, that is not an answer that is acceptable for me or my country.”

Slamming her opponent, Clinton said that “on issue after issue I don’t come to you with words I come with actions -- I come with a proven record of accomplishments for you.”

Clinton has said before that she’s “your girl” to take on the Republican attack machine. But, in Toledo she had a new twist, saying, “If you are looking for someone who will work to figure out a way how we keep building and making products that give people good wages and give us an industrial base which is important for our national security as well as our economy, then I’m your girl.”

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Good points. But were they delivered in that shrill, hoarse semi-yell she usually uses, or did she tone it down and speak in a more natural voice? She really should do the latter; she's very hard to listen to most of the time.

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 10:10:34 AM

She's my girl. I want somebody who will fight to get this country back where it needs to be.
She has shown time after time that she has the will,determination and fight that this country needs. GO HILLARY!

Posted by: J | Feb 23, 2008 10:10:38 AM


I feel strongly about the war in Iraq and believe we should have never gone there in the first place. I voted for Hillary Clinton 2 times as my state senator but the second time was with a clear mandate to get our troops out of there.

It was bad enough that Sen. Clinton agreed to support Bush in "his" war but not to listen to her constituents that wanted our troops brought home only compounded the stiuation.

Of course, now Sen. Clinton is trying to find excuses why she agreed to support "Bushes war" but it's too late. There is no reason good enough to cause this kind of mistake where death has come to so many Americans and Iraqi, alike.

In the words of the late Molly Ivins, journalist and columnist from Texas in a 2006 article intitled, "I Will Not Support Hillary Clinton for President":

Quote:

"Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her."

When I heard Barack Obama speak and tell how he was against the war from the start he gave voice to my feelings and I thought there is someone I want leading our country he has such wisdom.

As Sen. Obama has said it's not so much who has more experience but who will do the right thing the first day in office as the President of the United States.

Once Hillary gets your vote she'll look down on all you "little people" just like Leona Helmsley did. Hillary is a multi, multi millionaire with staff to do her hair, clean her house, etc..... she could never relate to the working poor who hold this country up

And the day she agreed to support Bushs' war she was as guilty as he is for hundreds of thousands of deaths some of which are our own military.

Posted by: Sandra | Feb 23, 2008 10:16:20 AM

"Sandra"

Obama also said he doesn't know how he would have voted if he had the information that they did. He is now using his "infinite wisdom" to dupe people.

You were not privied to the information they were given, so how can you determine how "you" would have voted!

Posted by: J | Feb 23, 2008 10:20:29 AM

There's another aspect to Hillary's war vote that is as troubling as the vote itself. That is her adamant refusal to admit that the vote was a mistake. One of the reasons George W. Bush's presidency has been such a disaster is his unwillingness to admit -- and, more important, learn from -- his mistakes.

Contrast with Obama's admission (on, of course, a far less consequential issue) that he made a mistake in not crediting Deval Patrick with the lines he used.

She can "soften" herself from time to time, but that doesn't change the essential person we came to know during the 1993-94 health-care fiasco: imperious, take-no-prisoners, belittling, threatening and attacking her opponents (read the account of Rep. Jim Cooper).

The phrase "often in error but never in doubt" comes to mind.

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 10:27:52 AM

Rodney: Before you continue to insult a multitude of women who are proud to be 60 and referred to as a "girl", you may want to stop and think. Then again, you may not care who you insult. Hillary is one of the "girls" and there are many more of us out there amused by the likes of you!

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | Feb 23, 2008 10:29:11 AM

J.

Why resort to outright lies. Obama has alwasy been anti-war and there is NOTHING the BUSH couuld have said to change that REALITY. Come on, I thought you Billaries believed in "REALITY."

Posted by: shelgirl | Feb 23, 2008 10:30:06 AM

Sandra:I too am adamately against the war and I always have been. It’s easy for Obama to stand tall and speak out when many surround him and chant his praise. It takes a powerful leader to take us to into the new frontiers, to break new ground, in new territories, to not be fearful but fearless. It takes a powerful leader to heal not just the wounds inflicted in the fabric of this country but to see and feel the pain suffered by citizens in many countries. It takes a powerful leader to stand alone and fight the fight and even in failure to rise again, to fight again. We’ve watched Hillary Clinton be fearless, fight and lose and continue the fight. We’ve watched Hillary Clinton, stand on the Senate floor, not at a peace rally, and vote and state her reasons for her vote. She, more that the other 76 Senators has stood against repeated personal attacks for that vote, despite the fact that it was George Bush and not Hillary Clinton and the other 76 unnamed Senators that deceived the citizens of this country and lead us to where we are now. The mistake lays at the feet of those who citizens who voted for George Bush, not the senate for for something that was not a vote for WAR!

Obama chants the Kennedy theme without understanding that negotiating out of fear, isn’t the issue, but rather negotiating from power is the winning position. He chants lines from Martin L. King that led a generation before him to take action. Obama fails to understand that it takes a powerful leader to not just inspire, with the words of others but to speak from your heart with the clarity your words that inspire and call to action your followers to face a fierce battle with the opposition to right wrongs. Obama is naïve to think that we all just talk and reach an agreement. He is naïve to think that talk with anyone without a plan will protect America.

There are similarities bewtween Bush and Obama. I've had enough of someone "attempting" to run the country. I'm for someone who has withstood the test.

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | Feb 23, 2008 10:38:58 AM

Classic Hilliary, Bill signs NAFTA into law in '93, setting the stage for GAT, CAFTA, and all the other "un-fair" nanaged trade deals that allow China to make so much money that they and the Saudis in Dubai by up all our resources; And then she wants to say she's for the middle class (that those same polices have wiped out) and for a living wage, that companies can now outsource to avoid paying to workers in this country. She and Bill sold off and eviscerated our industrial base under these managed trade deals. Therfore, we don't produce anything to sell to market, and our entire economy is based on byuing and consuming products from every other country EXCEPT America, enriching China and the other members of the WTO while throwing our national debt, and consumer debt into the stratosphere. How can we have a middle class on service jobs? It's not going to happen. You can't buy your house, your car, or cover your medical costs with so much debt on these kind of wages. Hilliary is responsible for this. So for here to say she has the soulton to this problem, when she and Bill created it is laughable. That's NOT a record of accomplishment, it's more like CLASSIC doublethink.

Posted by: cba | Feb 23, 2008 10:46:38 AM

Amazon Traveler,

Why can't you Hillary supporters keep your facts straight? She failed to read the NIE that was provided to her before the vote, instead relying on a "staff summary." Recently, in the California debate, she tried to claim that she didn't think it was a vote for the use of force (despite the occurrence of exactly those words in the title of the resolution), and also distorted the Levin amendment to rationalize her failure to vote for that. The truth is the voted for the resolution with her future political ambitions in mind, trying to set herself up as being tough enough to be president. Her total lack of candor on this issue is, alone, enough to disqualify her.

Likewise, you are distorting and mischaracterizing Obama's statements and positions. He recognizes that Bush's adventurist, unilateralist foreign policy has weakened us as a nation and stretched our military to the breaking point, and has spoken about negotiating from a position of strength by getting out of Iraq and re-focusing on Afghanistan where Al Quaeda was based, and where we had them on the run until Bush decided to transfer our resources from there for the foolish Iraq invasion.

Finally, this silly comparison of Obama with Bush is just over the top. Obama accomplished more in his first five years out of college than Bush had in his whole life before he became (you note I don't say "was elected") president), or has since. And, unlike Bush, he worked hard for everything he achieved.

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 10:51:54 AM

Again, I feel Hillary should be honest with American and change her slogan:

I'M YOUR GRANNY!

Many people have warm feelings about their grannies, so it might do the trick. Sure, since Chelsea is no mom yet, Hillary isn't a granny in the strict sense, but she is a girl is NO sense of that word.

She's old, tired and done. She did her best, worked hard, now she can take care of the cats or the dogs or the geraniums.

Posted by: Rodney | Feb 23, 2008 10:51:55 AM

Hillary proposed to clean up the White House after Bush jr. May McCain or Obama give her the job. Ayone can use a cleaning woman, even if she's old and talks too much. At least she'll be no danger to the next President. She's the ideal type for woman for those who could be attracted to feminine, gentle, witty, busty creatures such as Ms. Lewinsky.

Posted by: Brian | Feb 23, 2008 10:58:55 AM

The death of the officer, and HRC's reaction to it, have nothing to do with the campaign. Injecting it into the political discourse demeans us Obama supporters and undermines our many legitimate criticisms of Hillary.

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 11:03:22 AM

Hey, how about knocking off the personal attacks? That's not what people want on this blog. Can we please stick to issues and qualifications?

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 11:14:33 AM

Hey, is Obama doing nothing? Lovely coverage of Clinton over the last few weeks, but I don't see much about what Obama is doing or saying. Certainly not as positive as this.... You can be for Clinton if you like, but I really liked this page for its balance.

Posted by: Jerome | Feb 23, 2008 11:23:10 AM

I am 55 and all for Hillary and I was thinking I could vote for Obama but not now

Posted by: Bishop | Feb 23, 2008 11:34:49 AM

The reason he is doing so well is the Republicans are voting in the Democratic primaries so that Senator Clinton is not the nominee.

Also, it'finally nice to see Senator Clinton getting some press. This has been the most biased coverage of an election I have ever seen. I am sick of seeing Obama's face and borrowed lines everywhere.

Posted by: J | Feb 23, 2008 11:37:05 AM

J,

Do you really think cross-over Republicans are responsible for Obama's victory margins in the last 11 primaries and caucuses he has won -- with the CLOSEST margin being 17 points? You must know that is not realistic.

The fact is that Hillary has run a poor campaign, and Obama has run a very good one. If you could open your mind a little bit, you would recognize how much the way each has run their respective campaigns shows about their intelligence, insight, judgment in hiring/appointing people, and ability to inspire people -- in other words, each one's ability to be president.

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 11:41:38 AM

"jac13"

I see you are listening to the tv's biased coverage again. The Republicans will do anything to make sure Senator Clinton is not the nominee. Watch and see how they tear Obama apart.

Obama doesn't inspire me one bit. He's full of empty promises that we all know he won't/can't deliver. He says the same things over and over again and it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

Didn't you notice his opening statement was from a speech he gave a few days before about Washington is where ideas go to die. The man is not original.

Posted by: J | Feb 23, 2008 11:50:25 AM

Sorry, J, you insult my intelligence. Unlike most people these days, I read 2 or 3 newspapers, and read and listen to all sorts of sources.

The facts about how these two candidates have managed their campaigns are right there for everyone to see -- as are the results for the last 11 primaries/caucuses.

I don't think exit polls are "biased," and if you take the time to delve into the details, you can learn for yourself what portion of the electorate in a given caucus or primary is Republicans. Regardless of whether or not they're voting for him because they believe in him or would like to run against him, there are not enough of them to explain Obama's victories.

Unlike a lot of the die-hard Hillary supporters/Obama-haters, I try to be fair-minded about all this stuff, and while I think Hillary is a very capable person and is competent to handle the job of president, I just think she is too divisive to win in November. Obama may lose to McCain, he may not, but he's polling 10 to 15 points better than Hillary is against him at the moment.

As for substance, I've read Obama's book and it is chock full of thoughtful, substantive ideas on the issues (and unlike Hillary's book, he wrote it himself).

If she gets the nomination I will certainly vote for her, since I can't contemplate the thought of any more Robertses or Alitos on the Supreme Court, for one reason, but I think Obama offers is a chance for a fresh start and some real change.

In other words, we just disagree.

Posted by: jac13 | Feb 23, 2008 12:02:42 PM

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