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Obama Campaign On Defensive, Points Plagiarism to Clinton
February 18, 2008 12:41 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller and Teddy Davis Reports: Senator Barack Obama said during a press conference in Niles, Ohio that he probably should have given credit to Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick when he used his words at a speech on Saturday night in Wisconsin, as first reported by ABC News' Jake Tapper.
Obama pushed back against questions about whether he has ever plagiarized before. Obama said he usually gives credit when quoting people or using ideas, but he insisted that he is friends with Patrick.
"I've written two books, wrote most of my speeches, so I'm putting aside the question that you just raised whether my words are my own, I think that would be carrying it too far," Obama said. "Deval and I do trade ideas all the time, and he's occasionally used lines of mine and I at a Jefferson Jackson dinner in Wisconsin used some words of his.”
When asked if he should have credited Patrick, Obama admitted he should have: “I was on the stump. He suggested we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I’m sure I should have. Didn’t this time.”
But the Illinois senator then turned his focus on Sen. Hillary Clinton, suggesting the New York senator uses his words without his approval. "Senator Clinton has used mine as well," Obama said, citing "fired up and ready to go," as examples.
The Clinton campaign today held a conference call with reporters to highlight charges that Obama's speech this weekend had a striking similarity to a speech given by Gov. Deval Patrick, D-MA in 2006.
"The power of his rhetoric has been much discussed," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said today, referring to Obama. "So when we learned that he has taken an important section of a speech from another elected official, it raises questions about the premise of his candidacy."
"It makes those words much less inspiring; less authentic and more political," he added.
The Clinton campaign circulated a video of the similar Patrick and Obama speeches Monday.
Patrick, who supports Obama for president, has defended the Illinois Democrat for using his refrain without attribution. But Clinton's spokesman argued that regardless of how Patrick feels, harm was done to Obama's audience, and he compared it to an author who plagiarizes the work of another.
"I think it's fine that Deval Patrick said that," added Wolfson. "What I'm concerned about is that the public has an expectation that the words are his own unless he credited them to someone else."
The Clinton camp believes that Obama' s lifting of rhetoric without attribution is especially damaging to the Illinois Democrat because his speeches have played an important role in his rise from state senator three years ago to Democratic presidential frontrunner.
"When you are running on your rhetoric and the power of your oratory," Wolfson said, "I think it undermines a central" element "of his candidacy."
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe held a conference call with reporters today that was meant to be dedicated to tomorrow’s primary in Wisconsin, but instead focused on the controversy and little else.
In Saturday’s speech at the Wisconsin Jefferson Jackson dinner Obama shot back at his critics’ charges that his campaign is about words, not action.
“Don't tell me words don't matter! ‘I have a dream’, just words?" he said. "‘We hold these truths to be self evident that all me are created equal’ - just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself?’ - just words? Just speeches?”
Plouffe tried to explain away the similarities in those remarks to the 2006 Deval Patrick speech by pointing out that the Governor and Obama are friends, and they often share thoughts and words in speeches.
Plouffe then tried to turn the argument to Obama’s opponent. He argued that Clinton is not in a position to be outraged about plagiarism. This is a “curious charge coming from Senator Clinton when she has actually repeatedly throughout the campaign used the language Senator Obama has used.”
Plouffe charged several instances when he says “Senator Obama’s language has been copied by the Clinton campaign.”
When reporters asked for specific examples, Plouffe said they would be provided.
Obama campaign national press secretary Bill Burton soon sent reporters an email with Clinton quotes that he argued were copied from Obama.
Those phrases include: “Fired up and ready to Go”, “Bring our country together,” “Yes we can,” “We’ve got to turn the page on George Bush and Dick Cheney,” and “Turn the Page.”
With reporting by ABC News' Jake Tapper.
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Now it starts for Obama, finally. Next he will charge Clinton with plagiarism for saying "Vote for me." Said the Tin Man to the Scarecrow, "I think it's going to get worse before it gets better."
Posted by: OldTT | Feb 18, 2008 12:58:45 PM
It's common to use phrases that you hear that are catchy. In fact I think we all can think of words or phrases that if you hear one more time you think you will puke. ie. Awesome,dude,like totally, snap, true that etc.
Posted by: deni | Feb 18, 2008 12:59:19 PM
Right from the beginning, Obama has been a man for "CHANGE". But now all candidates are for change, even including McCain. Do I need to say more?????
Posted by: Peace | Feb 18, 2008 1:06:56 PM
The problem with Obama's words, aside from the fact that htye arent his, it is that they just are words..His words dont call into action in stopping foreclosures, getting people healthcare, stopping oil dependency. So as awesome some of the words are - the words that he has borrowed had a bigger impact from other leaders becuase they were more than just vote for me..They actually provided solutions..
Posted by: linchristi | Feb 18, 2008 1:08:57 PM
Obama is starting to sound like a little boy in kindergarten who is crying because Hillary took his milk. There is no copyright on "catch" phrases. He plagiarized an entire speech, but he turns on Hillary for using his catch phrases. How juvenile. This man is not Presidential material.
Posted by: Jay | Feb 18, 2008 1:09:11 PM
Obama is using same technique as rappers. They get sampling of melody or tunes that stick and make it their own. Same old stuff only different artist. From the get go, I do not really see anything original about Obama. You could find lots of his phrases from self-help books or motivational speakers. People should just go to therapy if they want this kind of talk and elect someone more qualified.
Posted by: Felicia | Feb 18, 2008 1:09:24 PM
Is this man a baby geez, he was caught big time using Patrick's words rather than he leaves it alone and sit down and write something to show that he can do so he come off like a spoil kid pointing fingers 'look mommy she does it to", as the days go by I really wonder what exactly it is that some of you feel this man can bring to the office of President. Such petty and childish behavior coming from a grown man , Obama suck it up and move on, look at all the swipes Hillary has taken, I cant believe that you are letting a woman outshine you in the maturity departmenet, maybe Obama will go running home and cry to Michelle.
Posted by: SJ | Feb 18, 2008 1:12:56 PM
Obama has stolen an entire speech ,used words to his convenience and hads the audacity to attack Hillary on catch phrases.What a low act.He should apologize or quit the race...
Posted by: VIK | Feb 18, 2008 1:15:50 PM
It is true that Clinton has copied Obama's words many times in her campaign.such as yes, we will; fired up and ready to go; turn the age etc. These are OBAMA slogans. It is very shameful for the Clinton's supporters to bring these things out.
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | Feb 18, 2008 1:16:54 PM
I left Obama at REZCO. No more need for garbage on this empty suite.
Posted by: Charles | Feb 18, 2008 1:19:52 PM
OMG, can we find something better to discuss..something that means something to someone other than a bunch of talking heads
Posted by: Jerry | Feb 18, 2008 1:21:03 PM
Obama is not only words but they are other people's words. He cries change but has accepted more money from lobbyists than any presidential candidate in history. Wake up people you are falling for a dog and pony show!
Posted by: Firefighter | Feb 18, 2008 1:21:26 PM
Either you guys are the least educated people in the world or you have never heard FDR say that; or MLK; or JFK- Hillary stole her line about the statue of liberty from a poem at the same dinner. Educate yourself people, do not let others influence your perceptions at a whim.
Posted by: Chelsea | Feb 18, 2008 1:22:24 PM
Are some of you sleeping the issues is not coping a line from someone the man took the entire speech of Patrick and recited it word for word all he did was change around the order on the presentation. If Obama wants to come off as this great leader in the likes of MLK and that is what he is pretending to be, but MLK wrote his own stuff he did not need to copy or get pointers from others to make a speech. Now that you all are caught in this hoodwinking exercise some of you are making excuses to cover up his faults, he pretended to be something he is not, he used another man's words then claimed he makes great speeches, if he was this talented why did he need to do it that is the first question, and they other is how far is he willing to go to pretend that he is one way and not the other just to get the post of President.
Posted by: SJ | Feb 18, 2008 1:22:54 PM
The story about Obama are his speeches which inspire people. Now, we find out that those same words are the words of another politican who used them in another campain. Those words did not wholly come to his mind because he felt them but because he heard another politician use them (and win).
Posted by: Jim | Feb 18, 2008 1:24:08 PM
Was he not the one to say that Hillary will do and say anything to win looks as if he better rethink that position because that claim sure looks like its falling at his doorstep now
Posted by: SJ | Feb 18, 2008 1:26:10 PM
All you Obama university folks try and use someone else's entire speech or ideas in your written papers and then see what mark you get when the profs find out you stole someone else's ideas and words. Chances are you'd be kicked out of school.
Posted by: Will | Feb 18, 2008 1:27:18 PM
Barack Obama tried to compare himself to Ronald Reagan, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Martin Luther King.
Barack Obama with his inexperience, is starting to remind us a Dan Quayle who tried to compare himself to John F. Kennedy in the 1988 debate. Senator Lloyd Bentsen responded to Dan Quayle with the famous quote:
"Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
Posted by: Angel | Feb 18, 2008 1:29:12 PM
Has anyone here bothered to listen to what he said. If he was stealing lines it was from King, Roosevelt, and Kennedy.
Both Patrick and Obama were responding to attacks on their ability to actually speak well...from desperate female candidates that were looking for an issues, any issue, to take them down a notch.
If you listened about 30 seconds of the speech were the same. Only Drudge seems to think this is a big deal.
Posted by: Keith | Feb 18, 2008 1:30:46 PM
Facts: Mr. Obama used an entire speech without mentioning to the public it was indeed someone else's speech. That is pure and simple plagiarism. He should apologize and drop out of the race now. "I give good speeches".. Yes, but they are someone else's words.
Doesn't matter if he and Deval are friends or not and even if he gave Obama permission to use his speech, he should have been given the proper credit.
Posted by: Jay | Feb 18, 2008 1:31:32 PM
A question for Obama supporters is: do you feel inspired or maybe duped by a politican? This is one of the most important reasons people support him and now perhaps that is not what it seems.
Posted by: Jim | Feb 18, 2008 1:35:28 PM
SHAEFUL TO STEAL OBAMA'S WORDS. HE IS THE REAL CANDIDATE TO WIN NOMINATION AND GENERAL ELECTION. MC CAIN CAN'T STAND HIM AT ALL. GO BARACK OBAMA '08 .
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | Feb 18, 2008 1:36:11 PM
Obama is such a con artist. He has stolen Deval Patrick entire speech and Patrick stole it from JFK and MLK. I am sick of people not coming up with their own ideas.
Posted by: C DEPP | Feb 18, 2008 1:41:47 PM
For my family, it is Obama. We would never vote for liar Hillary or war monger McCain. It is either Obama or a third party for certain for us.
Posted by: rockychance | Feb 18, 2008 1:43:43 PM
When what you are selling is thoughts and words and they are "regifted" from another campaign without giving credit to the original thinker then you are a hoax. He has raised a lot of money. He has a huge staff. This was not just another stop on the campaign trail, this was an important dinner appearance. This should have been enough to inspire original thinking ... I am absolutely stunned that he thought he could walk through it.
Posted by: beebopareebop | Feb 18, 2008 1:45:11 PM
Obama will get the nomination or at least five million of his supporters will not vote for a totally dishonest Clinton.
Posted by: rockychance | Feb 18, 2008 1:46:16 PM
I think there is a big difference between using a cookie-cutter approach of hope and rhetoric, as Obama seems to be doing, and Clinton using a time-worn phrase like fired up and ready to go...everyone says that...the question for the Obama campaign is whether or not Obama's approach is organic to him or if it is just some "marketing" gadget that Axelrod has used to help both Patrick and Obama?
Posted by: Karen Gerdes | Feb 18, 2008 1:46:40 PM
If you are a former Obama supporter, don't feel too bad. Biden was knocked off his pedestal a few years back for similar behavior, and yet he was able to rise from the ashes and run for President a second time. Maybe Obama will also do as well as Biden the second time out. (ROFL)
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Feb 18, 2008 1:47:36 PM
For a candidate who is not running on policies but on speeches this is serious business. For all the college students who are supporting him they should check their school's policy on plagiarism. Are you starting to see a pattern of deceit with him?
Posted by: larry | Feb 18, 2008 1:48:02 PM
Clutching at straws. Clutching at straws.
Posted by: hawkrew | Feb 18, 2008 1:48:30 PM
Obama is a smarmy idea thief....the recent momentum thickens and slows.....soon to be a coronary thrombosis. Liars, thieves, and con men...just like the Kennedy supporters.
Posted by: willy | Feb 18, 2008 1:50:22 PM
The difference is those famous quotes they both used had an actual powerful meaning behind them. For instance if "we have nothing to fear but fear itself" was in reference to dealing with Healthcare in America, afraid of how to pay for it etc... Then no one would notice. But when a Nation unjustly attacked needs to send its young men into service to defend herself, the words are indeed powerful. So much like the platitudes and rhetoric of these candidates there just is no substance.
Posted by: Dennis | Feb 18, 2008 1:50:26 PM
sweet talking guy, sweet talking guy, he's a sweet talking, sweet talking, sweet talking, sweet talking guy - why do I love him like I do? The Chiffons
guess now I know why
Posted by: american2 | Feb 18, 2008 1:50:34 PM
I would say he looks like "a wolf in sheeps clothing" but I'm afraid it's already taken.
Posted by: jim | Feb 18, 2008 1:52:04 PM
He just can't answer a question can he. It's always being thrown back at his opponent. Is this grasping at straws? No, it's reality the guy is a phony.
Posted by: jeff | Feb 18, 2008 1:55:19 PM
Are you kidding me? Obama has copywritten the phrases "fired up" and "Turn the page"? I hate to rain again on his "originality" but I believe these might have been spoken prior to his candidacy - in fact one is an old Seger song. And every election year there is a "Candidate of Change". I keep waiting for him to say something substantive that couldn't immediately be printed on a bumper sticker or a t-shirt, but as time goes on, I'm thinking that's not gonna happen. I want to like him, I really do - but damn! Give me something, man!
Posted by: Paula | Feb 18, 2008 1:55:21 PM
Come on...we really need to stick at the task at hand folks. Forget the one-liners. Let's talk about health care, people who are losing their homes, the problem in our schools. Lets ask a very important question? Are they going to continue to build a 700 million dollar embassy in Iraq??
Posted by: Karen | Feb 18, 2008 1:55:59 PM
The phrase "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" was said by F.D.Roosevelt and if memory serves me, Winston Churchill during WW II.
Posted by: GrannyB | Feb 18, 2008 1:56:07 PM
Are you feeling the love Wisconsin?
Posted by: jim | Feb 18, 2008 1:57:02 PM
Just illustrates how pathetic the Obama camp is. He can not even right his own speeches. I wonder if he is elected who's Inauguration speech will he use? He wants to say that Clinton uses his words-yet another illustration of his stupidity. They all use phrases like that, not ENTIRE SPEECHES! It's time this country realizes he is not cut out for this job!
Posted by: Wells | Feb 18, 2008 1:57:12 PM
It's a non-issue. Hillary is desperate for anything at this point. Pathetic!
Posted by: dgfiit | Feb 18, 2008 1:57:54 PM
HILLARY WHERE ARE YOUR TAX RECEIPTS? WHY ARE YOU WAITING TO RELEASE EM, AFTER THE ELECTION? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE?
Posted by: jacobs | Feb 18, 2008 1:57:59 PM
I just saw a preview on TV of Bill Clinton campaigning for Hillary and in the audience I saw two young men with signs about abortion. That goes to show you the upbringing and ignorance of these two men. I do not believe in abortion but no one has the right to interfere in another persons right to do what they want to do. The only way to stop the abortion clinics is for congress to pass a bill making it mandatory that all abortion clinics be closed making abortion illegal. And this bill should be mandatory for every state. But right now no matter if you are pro-life or a women's choice they will use their own minds. Even if the candidate states they are pro life it doesn't make a difference unless a bill is passed.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Feb 18, 2008 1:59:00 PM
I think it is clear that the Obama team has an evangelical vent and that Clinton is much more detailed or pragmatic and that is not as appealing to people because it reminds them of problems that they must face. I despise the Obama speeches. Can you tell? They all seem so phony and now that has been verified for me with this latest thing. I love the way his machine says it is not plagiarism, but rather "just sharing riffs" Ya have to wonder how that term plays in Peoria... The more interesting thing is that if this had been Hillary doing this, it would be a big topic. I guess the media doesn't want to shatter the centerpiece to his popularity...his speeches, which it turns out aren't even original. I guess the reality is that Obama is just another pretty face with a very, shallow, media-created image to drive his candidacy. Oh my. Just wait for that Republican machine to kick in...
Posted by: swoosie10 | Feb 18, 2008 2:00:08 PM
Get a grip, people. Same campaign strategist...both Patrick and Obama have been targeted as men who "just use words" and this is an effective response, from the same campaign strategist, probably the same speechwriters. Not one politician I have heard in my lifetime gives credit to their speechwriters.
Focus on the ideas of each candidate, the policies and issues. Please. Both are intelligent, capable humans, who I believe are being led astray each by their "campaign managers" handlers, or whatever. All the rest of this is ugly gossipy baloney. Mass distractions, people, and we have real issues to face.
Posted by: anotherpatricia | Feb 18, 2008 2:00:18 PM
I'm a friend of Plato and Shakespeare too.
Posted by: Mike | Feb 18, 2008 2:00:48 PM
How can we get back to policy discussions when Obama won't talk about his? He wouldn't debate in Wisconsin because he was to busy giving speeches but now it turns out his speech was copied. When will it end? When will it end?
Posted by: jim | Feb 18, 2008 2:00:49 PM
OBAMA WILL BE THE PARTY NOMINEE AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT!
Posted by: JACOBS | Feb 18, 2008 2:01:03 PM
Seem to me that Deval Patrick is a lot more talented than Obama if Obama has to copy from him, look like maybe the wrong man is running in this race, while the talent is taking a back seat.
Posted by: SJ | Feb 18, 2008 2:02:20 PM
Finally the "Messiah Barack" is being called on his ordinariness. Plus I like the fact that it's now revealed that he and that failure of a governor Deval Patrick are friends, and have a lot of the same ideas. (NOT good)...
Democrats fighting each other. A GOP's dream. And we didn't have to spend a dime. Thank you God! :)
Posted by: Brian Yok | Feb 18, 2008 2:02:41 PM
Isn't "Plagiarism" a kind of stealing?
Hillary to Obama: You're a thief and a liar.
Obama: I only lied about being a thief, and I don't do that.
(From the movie "Ocean's Eleven)
Posted by: Someone | Feb 18, 2008 2:04:38 PM
Obama is desperate for John Edwards to campaign for him but John Edwards should remain undecided until he finds out who wins the nomination. I believe Obama knows that Hillary is ahead of him in TX, OH & PA and he wants John Edwards to campaign with him in those states. Obama will possibly win Wisconsin because Hillary was late campaigning there. Besides that, why was Gov. Doyle so upset about Hillary not campaigning there right away when he endorsed Obama weeks ago. It certainly doesn't make sense to me. Well, Hillary is campaigning in Wisconsin for what I don't know because I think her chances are slim but we have to wait and see what happens. I hope she wins in Hawaii Obama's birthplace.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Feb 18, 2008 2:04:57 PM
Obama reminds me of one of my favorite comedians... what is his name?? dee deedee (carlos mencia rocks) Obama is a know and do nothing who has no credibility.
Posted by: dee deedee again | Feb 18, 2008 2:05:31 PM
I HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT HILLARY WANT TO DO FOR US SINCE SHE STARTED LOSING. SHE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES. THESE NEGATIVE ATTACKS WILL NOT SWAY ME.
Posted by: james | Feb 18, 2008 2:06:01 PM
This is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. The Clinton camp should be ashamed of themselves for reducing the conversation to this level of silliness. Politicians borrow from each other all the time. Every republican out there copies Reagan. What does this have to do with the bloody ISSUES?
Posted by: Roca | Feb 18, 2008 2:07:23 PM
This example says a lot about the man's integrity. He should have just answered the question directly and left it at that. Instead, he jumps on Clinton and says she copied HIS slogans. It shows what type of leader he really is. Has anyone seen Bush & Obama in the same room? They may be the same person.
Posted by: jeff | Feb 18, 2008 2:08:02 PM
Hillary and Obama are both losers.
Posted by: John D, Mishawaka, IN | Feb 18, 2008 2:08:05 PM
I am so glad this has been exposed. The American people need to know now what kind of a person they are voting for. Obama's claim to fame has been his oratory...and now we find out he copies verbatim. What an eye opener!
Posted by: Two-cats | Feb 18, 2008 2:08:28 PM
I'm so shocked. This is an entire speech copied. This is total plagiarism. And he can't get out of this one by trying to point the finger the other way or call this a false accusation or negative campaigning. This is a matter of integrity. This is a big deal. Not good at all for him.
Posted by: PT | Feb 18, 2008 2:08:31 PM
if obama is the party nominee the next president will be a republican
Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | Feb 18, 2008 2:08:47 PM
WOW. Plagiarism at its best. BAD LAWYER!
Posted by: thinkaboutit | Feb 18, 2008 2:09:10 PM
Someone needs to tell Sen. Obama that two wrongs don't make a right. He's portraiting himself as being above the normal politics but he's doing what normal politicians do, people expect better from him. He's suppose to be a leader not a follower. My mother would always ask, "If all of your friends jump off a bridge are you going to jump too", maybe he's not as great as he would like us to believe.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | Feb 18, 2008 2:09:28 PM
Headline on Drudge Report
US-Islamic forum in Gulf overwhelmingly backs Obama... Guess they know what he is,
Posted by: oncemorenomore | Feb 18, 2008 2:09:29 PM
YES HE CAN…. THIS SALES MAN IS PHONY…The rookie sales man is doing plagiarism. This is shame for copying somebody’s speech! The sales man is following HRC footstep when it comes to economy.
What happened between this rookie sales man and REZKO? Is the rookie will return the house and lot that he bought from this scum? YES HE CAN…. but I don't think so because they are both scum....Blood sticker than water, YES HE CAN!
What happened to his present votes? He did not even know how to vote yes or no for a difficult legislation? This is a fact. A first grader knows how to differentiate Yes or No. It was wrong, and it will always be wrong. How can you vote for person who does not have that capacity? NO WE CAN’T...
Posted by: greg limes | Feb 18, 2008 2:11:05 PM
I am an Obama supporter. Better still I am very politically active. I have seen both Clinton and McCain borrow Obama's words long before this latest non-issue turned up.
Am I surprised by Obama here? No. I know politics enough to realise what goes into creating speeches. I also have seen my own phrasing picked up and passed around in political circles. There is nothing wrong with ANY of it.
But here is what's wrong (and I'll admit, I saw this somewhere else first so this is not original) When Obama is talking about ideas, why is Hillary still talking about Obama?
Didn't someone once say something poignant about what that says about the size of people? I won't quote them now since not knowing who to credit might allow hot accusations of plagiarism to obscure the point, which is the point of all this. Geeze.
Posted by: SE Croft | Feb 18, 2008 2:13:28 PM
If Hillary spent as much time doing the job she was elected to do as she does attacking Obama, she might have accomplished something positive as a Senator by now.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | Feb 18, 2008 2:14:42 PM
Obama is NOT JFK in no way shape or form, Just quoting him does make you him, and does not mean that you believe the way he did, it just means that you are trying to trick people that believe in JFK to vote for you, or to like you,
Obama will never be a JFK
Posted by: oncemorenomore | Feb 18, 2008 2:15:16 PM
Why is the Clinton campaign sounding ever so envious of Obama's oratorial prowess? As a Clinton admirer, I suggest that she resumes campaigning on issues and stop dissipating energy and resources highlighting the very strengths of her opponent.
Posted by: Sulayman | Feb 18, 2008 2:18:06 PM
I always waited for this comment from Obama that I borrowed a speech from somebody else for the last three months. Anybody who watches politics already knew that he never wrote it. Does this surprise the American people no it shouldn't because most of the things Obaama has said or wants to project as a program was written or said by somebody else. Obama isn't the one who came up with the original idea. If this does suprise you about Obama, and if you still vote for Obama you are a fool that can't read between the lines or should I say you can't listen between the lines. I have made the same comment I will make again ALL TALK AND NO ACTION that's Obama way to do it. Go Hillary
Posted by: rksage | Feb 18, 2008 2:18:15 PM
Every single post I’ve seen in here appears to be from a bunch of idiots and I mean that in a good way. First, for one candidate to use the catch phrase of another candidate may seem like a small item and it is. However it is these catch phrases that we tend to associate with, use as a brand or hear in sound bites that signal each candidates mantra. Therefore that appears to be more criminal. Secondly, maybe Senator Obama did use a portion of a speech from someone else who is an old friend of his. What harm should that be if the intent was still genuine? Many of us have used inspiring words to form unity among a group of people. So what if he used a portion of someone else’s text. Does it really take away from how he feels about his intentions for this country? Absolutely not. How about we keep our eye on the ball people and pick the candidate we feel can bring about real change and not another four years of the same old thing.
Posted by: RKA | Feb 18, 2008 2:19:05 PM
just cause a person makes 95,000 dollars doesnt make them smart or right, Rappers make more than that, Just means somebody got you a good job,
Posted by: oncemorenomore | Feb 18, 2008 2:19:17 PM
If "bad" press was actually "good" press then Hillary would have been elected already and the Republicans would just go home. Nice try though.
Posted by: jeff | Feb 18, 2008 2:19:27 PM
It is easy to see how Bush got elected twice after reading some of the comments here. I must say that anyone that voted for Bush both times really needs to sit this one out because you really have shown a extreme lack of common sense.
Posted by: pt | Feb 18, 2008 2:19:53 PM
Here's a thought -- no teleprompters- no cards -- no pre-written speeches from any speech writers -- as soon as any candidiate can just get up and speak using their own words -- then we can put to rest who originally said what and when.. The point was made about rhetoric and such -- that's all.. If words don't mean anything, then I guess Bill never really had "sex" with Monica -- at least I always thought it was "sex".. Hey -- did Hillary find her "voice" this week -- or did she rip off the new Hampshire voters since she used their voice as her own?
Posted by: MARK JODON | Feb 18, 2008 2:20:29 PM
He did not use an entire speech. The quote does not appear exact and it is only two lines of what had to be several hundred.
Posted by: Milton Bradley | Feb 18, 2008 2:20:50 PM
obama will do anything for a little free press. some con men will do anything for a little attention. in the US, one sucker is born every few seconds. obama supporters prove this so its not just a theory; its a fact. romney in 08
Posted by: dee deedee again | Feb 18, 2008 2:22:51 PM
So it seems Obama is a Gov. Patrick's clone after all. FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!
1n 2006, Gov. Patrick won due to this inspirational message of hope - Yes, we can!
After a year and CHANGE the draperies for $12,000, people of Massachusetts shouted back No, we can't!!!
That's one of the reasons why Obama lost in Massachusetts. People already knew what type of CHANGE he is talking about.
I suggest Obama should start doing original speech like " I have a CON."
NO Bama!!!
Posted by: Joshua | Feb 18, 2008 2:23:32 PM
The Clinton campaign spin is doing exactly what it wants to do. It's diverting attention away from the real issues and putting focus on petty, irrelevant nonsense. Come on American people...do we really want 4 years of Hillary Clinton's pettiness when we have people dying, losing their jobs, and losing their homes? I've had enough of the Clintons. They are a detriment to our country.
Posted by: Mike | Feb 18, 2008 2:23:53 PM
Everyone read these posts. They are so funny; Hillary supporters are pinching for anything to turn this race around. He only used phrases from the guy’s speech not the whole speech. By the way Deval took those words from another famous speaker called Martin Luther King Jr. That speech did not belong to him either. Maybe that is why he is not putting up a big stink about it. What leg does Hillary supporters have to stand on? On Good Morning America this morning they stated she changes her speech depending on where she is. Rewind the ABC tape for yourselves. She does not stick with one message. She is out like Obama trying to convince people with a bunch of lies. She plays to the audience. If she is winning you get a different speech than if she is losing. Like Obama she says what people want to hear. If she gets many applauses that part stays in the speech if not she removes it and replaces it with something else. Hillary is no more genuine than Obama. Basically this boils down to whichever one you like the best.
Posted by: Queen Bee | Feb 18, 2008 2:23:57 PM
Why do some brainles fools in here keep saying that he copied an entire speech? He used four sentences from the speech. How is that an entire speech? Besides, he and the Mass. Gov have the same speechwriter for goodness sakes. Is Hillary this desperate?
Posted by: Roca | Feb 18, 2008 2:24:44 PM
So now the conversation shifts to this instead of the idea that HILARY HAS LOST 8 STATES IN A ROW AND IS ON HER WAY TO LOOSING 2 MORE. She's so desperate and will not be President. If she's the nominee she will galvanize Republicans to vote for McCain. She can unite the Republican party but not her own and to think she could unite the country is a joke. MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR HER TO CRY AGIAN
Posted by: Fired up Ready to Go | Feb 18, 2008 2:24:57 PM
How come Obama and his camp can say and use any words they want, and Hilliary can't, is that because his supporters know that he doesn't have any experience a good speech comes from the heart, Obama only reads what is handed to him, they are not his words, he doesn't write them, so why vote for some one that preaches change, but doesn't have a orginal ideal in his head
Posted by: oncemorenomore | Feb 18, 2008 2:25:02 PM
was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor? nothing is over until we say its over!
Posted by: dee deedee again | Feb 18, 2008 2:25:57 PM
If Obama steals his words from others than it goes to reason he will need to steal his ideas to lead this great country . again like Bush we will get an empty headed president ( if he was elected)Unless Sinclair bites his head off. Our country is in a fight for its life . We need someone with true leadership and our time of need . It is not Obama . I have lost all respect for him . I will vote for Clinton she is intelligent and in command of the facts.She will lead with knowledge and conviction . A man ( Obama ) that can't find his own words has no true convictions because he lacks his own thoughts and ideas . I will vote McCain if Obama gets the nomination
Posted by: Carlos | Feb 18, 2008 2:26:04 PM
Next he'll say Bob the Builder stole the "yes we can" line from him too.



