Just one reason why Obama won't be getting my vote.

When will the public wise up & realize this guy will be the death to our country if elected?!!? Stuff like this just proves what a complete moron he is. NO WAY I would EVER vote for him!

Obama is thinking constructively. He deserves to be rewarded and he will take the country in the right direction.

Giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens only continues to provide support for a very problematic situation. It cannot be defended. Find a path to legal citizenship first. Vote Hillary Clinton.

The "details" of his plan are just a "distraction". I'm surprised that he has ANY supporters. Oh, I forgot it's not about race. I think some people would still vote for an Obama/Kwame ticket.

Just a few more examples of the devisive Republicans.

Obama definitely gets my vote. He understands that our country's problems are complicated. Most people are tired of the politicians running this country. They are tired of the bickering about trivial things. Let's elect a President who wants to get our country back on track. Go Obama! Yes we can!

Good for you Obama! You are a man of integrity...we certainly need you as our President. Let's work on solving problems instead of playing the blame game.

If an illegal HITS you in an accident and he/she has NO COVERAGE you are screwed!!!!!!!! That's why an Hispanic like Richardson approved illegals getting driver's licenses in NM - it helpy YOU if you get hit!!! Think about it........most of these posts here are from stupid people who will probably vote for the warmonging McCain (we'll be in iRAQ FOR A 100 YEARS) OR never vote anyway.

Just a quick comment to the friend above who is opposed to the idea of issuing driver’s licenses to undocumented persons.

I worked in the legal profession for over 20 years. I know that it is critically important for safety on the roads that everyone who drives a vehicle in any state has studied the Driver’s Manual and has proven their knowledge of the laws of the road by being able to pass the tests to get a driver’s license.

It is not like anyone is providing a driver’s license to everyone — ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO STUDY AND LEARN THE LAWS AND WHO WANT TO OBEY THE LAW AND DRIVE LAWFULLY CAN OBTAIN A DRIVER’S LICENSE. Am I not right here???

Should we penalize them because they are trying to do the right thing and obey the law?? Aren’t we saying that we want undocumented people to obey the law?? Then when they are trying to be good Americans and obey the law by getting a driver’s license, let’s allow them to do so!

Furthermore, if we deny people driver’s licenses, they are not able to obtain car insurance AND THAT LEAVES EVERYONE WHO DRIVES IN DANGER OF AN ACCIDENT WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS NO INSURANCE COVERAGE TO PAY FOR DOCTORS, CAR REPAIRS, ETC.

In my home state of Oregon, have seen the devastating problems that arise in accidents with uninsured motorists, and there is no reason for that to happen, if we take the anti-immigrant anger and rhetoric out of the discussion.

I think we need to be realistic and reasonable on this issue. A driver’s license does not equal citizenship — what it does show is a desire to obey the law, study hard to learn the law, and the courage to seek a driver’s license that could be used against them. It also proves that undocumented workers can and do obey the law in obtaining a driver’s license in order to drive, and that they can and do understand the laws governing driving. I agree with Barack Obama's support of driver's licenses for undocumented people who study to earn them!

Giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants is a matter of public safety. These people still drive regardless of whether or not they have licenses. Giving them licenses allows the cops to do their jobs more effectively. People forget that cops across the country support Obama's position.

My bottom line. We will always be lied to, we will never elect the most intelligent, righteous candidate. Actually, in the current field, that would be Ron Paul. If you dismiss this, I suggest you do some research. As to people pulling for Clinton, please look at Judiciary watch, and do a google search under clinton contributions overlap. Obama might be real, or maybe the antichrist, but to me, there is no contest. At least there is hope with Obama. Just think of how many people are becoming involved in politics. This is because people are not being apathetic because they feel hope. We need to nurture that hope.

Obama, give it up, Latino voters have got your number. Too late to kiss up now. Plus we all ready know your typical political moves and the Latinos are not falling for it. Hillary represents real longterm solutions for Latino concerns. Also, too many of your supporters on these posts have denegrated the Latino community, so buzz off.

before Obama (in a debate) is against giving illegals driver's licenses now he is for it? A flip-flop.

You made my points, michaelinphilly. Without drivers licenses, the rest of us end up paying. People will drive anyway, since in most cities our public transportation is almost nonexistent.

Obama is inspiring and will make a fine president. Can't wait for November and then January 2009 when there's NO MORE GW!!!!

Very true, michaelinphilly, not giving out a driver's license only creates more hazards. This is America. People will find a way to come here one way or another. We can work with people or continue the same arrogant & punishing positions we've had toward the very people that make our country better -- immigrants.

And comparing Obama to Bush is a joke. They couldn't be more different. Obama is an intelligent, self-made hardworker who never had anything handed to him by elite parents, or a spouse that used to be President. All these racist people posting their idiot opinions in here, make me ashamed to call myself American. I am white, well-educated, upper-middle class, and seriosuly want to begin to move beyond the politics of hate and rage, and division. Obama offers a vision that i think is right for our time, and i fully embrace it.

Yet another reason for illegals to remain illegal.

It is a sad state of affairs when the Laws of our Father can not be held to be Just. How can I trust you with so much when something so small can not be dealt with. It is wrong, think 1986 and remember what we called for. They need to return and get in line behind those who seek a proper and legal entry into the USA. Increase the work permits by triple during the first 3 months prior and 3 months after the I-date. But seat a date for all prosecution. There will be those that have covered their trail with paperwork that does not belong to them. They may be the ones you open your plan for amnesty. Simply because their true stories need to be heard and that weak point can be closed forever. This last is more dangerous then the first. Because they climb faster to the top, because they have motivation to have the other around them. They know one another, secretly but known to many.
Illegal immigration is wrong. It is not something you give an ear to. The ear shoould have been the original visa process. In fact all our actions state we wanted to encourage the illegal immigration. Our fees, our abuse here, or sad eyes for the legal immigrant was never available to them ( yet we give it to the illegal). It is not right and anyone that thinks this way needs to be voted out of Office.

Obama and McCain are both globalist who will sale out this country in a second..Ron Paul 08... back to the rule of LAW..the CONSTITUTION....

Roca, are you seriously playing the race card? That has been a huge problem with the Obama campaign. Quick reactionaries who scream RACISM! That is far more devisive than what even Republicans do. In case you didn't notice, the Republican media played short clips all day for you all to scream racism before knowing all the facts and you all took that bait. I am black and spanish (Puerto Rican) and I cringe when people careless jump to that argument. You immediately place people who are not racists on the defensive and against you. I also teach in a Latino community, mostly Mexican and Mexican American. Those who were here during the Clinton era, have fond memories of those times.... They remember the right wing as being the attackers, the very right wing that is promoting your candidate....Just a couple of reasons why the Latino vote will go to Hillary!

"If an illegal HITS you in an accident and he/she has NO COVERAGE you are screwed!!!!!!!! That's why an Hispanic like Richardson approved illegals getting driver's licenses in NM - it helpy YOU if you get hit!!! Think about it........most of these posts here are from stupid people who will probably vote for the warmonging McCain (we'll be in iRAQ FOR A 100 YEARS) OR never vote anyway."

EDNH, Get a clue my friend, i was hit last week by an illegal immigrant that had no driver's license. Just to let you know my friend. If you would read up on your INSURANCE you would understand there is something called Undocumented Driver coverage its issued by all insurers to protect its members. This covers you from situations such as your presumed rhetoric. It happened to me and i didnt have to pay a thing. Try reading your insurance instead of spewing venom.

At first I didn't agree with Obama on this issue, but after a little thought, I do. I am firmly against allowing illegal immigrants to flood into our country, they should have to wait behind people legally on lists, but if they are here, driving without a license or insurance guarantees there are more unqualified and uninsured drivers getting in accidents.
Personally, I think not allowing police to arrest illegals, (they are breaking the law by being here) doesn't make sense. It shouldn't just be INS's job.
I'm glad Obama is firm on closing the border to illegals, and really fining employees large amounts for hiring illegals. That is what will really change the picture.
People, please don't choose a candidate on one issue. Look over the big picture. Anything they want to do needs the support of Congress. Remember Obama (and Edwards) wants to end corporate influence on Congress and the presidency. Clinton takes large amounts of corporate dollars so she won't be able to make big changes like he will. Obama is the best choice to get us out of Iraq, to get affordable health insurance, (read his plan on his website under issues)balance our trade deficit, reduce federal debt, etc.

Temporary Driver licences need to be given to all party's coming into the USA for more then 30 days that wish to have drivers priviledges. Entering the USA without documents is illegal. Driving without a license or permission in the USA is against the law. Now, which part of this do we not fully understand.
A person must be identifiable, if not, he/she should be held until that identificaton can be properly determined. An individual found inside the USA without documents need to be deported immediately. If he deserves a chance to prove his status in court, then he will be held accountable for time in prison if it proves to be a lie. If he resists the order of the court; then he should do hard time. Bleeding hearts or not. It is wrong to allow entry without documentation. If false documents are used. Immediate deportation and cost need to be recovered from the Country of origin. Run a tab ... World Court must allow seizing property belonging to that Country and sold for the expenses to be paid. STAND and Be Counted!

Are people not reading, they are not citizens of the USA, when they become a citizen, then they can have citizen rights. Title of our country United States of America, to get a license you should be a citizen of the United not just a State resident in America. At the time of citizenship they can do the legalities to be a good driver, one rule should be to speak English.

In any case, the posts here who represent Obama support, are the best repellents for more Obama support. I felt highly insulted by Obama supporters saying negative things about Hillary's Latino support. Now Obama is kissing up to Latinos and you're all jumping on that bandwagon. Too late!

Would getting a driver license also mean having to purchase insurance? Insurance is equally important to me. I came into this country from Britain, 44 years ago, the old-fashioned way, through Immigration and Naturalization Services and now a US citizen. Would have been much easier if I could have just toddled across the border from Canada!

Divers License for Illegals, Uzis for Felons, Cocaine for Druggies, Let's make it all legal if they'll vote for ya. Democrats will allow anything. In Texas they have enrolled thousands of illegals in voter registration and block requirements to prove you are a citizen. They take oaths to uphold the law of the land. But that is just another lie....

Obama is shamelessly using the issue of giving drivers license to illegal immigrants to gain latino vote.
He wants to reward people who broke this country's law by entering illegally.

giving illegals drivers license is like giving a recurring DWI(driving while intoxicated ) theirs lices to drive. They shouldn't be able to get them till they can prove they are legal citizens of the United States of America. Beign republican or democrate has nothing to do with it. I won't vote for Obama I am voting for Hillary at least I havent felt insulted by her.

I don't know about the rest of you living in places when there is a large immigrant population but in Miami they are driving without licenses and are causing hit and runs daily. Maybe if we have them get licenses, we can save a few American lives! Go Obama 08!!

I am a Canadian citizen, and in our country, driving licence is not equal to citizenship. Whether you are a citizen, a permanent resident, a refugee claimant or whatsoever, you get your driving licence after passing the required road tests, and this driving licence is issued for public safety for all on roads and protection from potential accidents endangering people's life and property,that is why all drivers need their driving licences to get the proper and mandatory car insurance.
Therefore , it would be idiot to think that issuing drivers licences to undocumented aliens is equivalent to giving them citizenship or recognizing their illegal situations in a country.

Thanks for understanding.

Another issue of the issueance, I believe but I'm not an attorney, there is such a thing as an international drivers license how about if the immigrants investigate this instead of our governments. It is great they want to join the USA but I am out a job. We have bigger fish to fry. The name/background of this candidate should concern this country. Sure he's probably nice but where the Homeland Se curity?

Giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens for votes, and I am sure if Obama needed votes from certain other illegal aliens who wanted pilot licenses he'd give them too to get elected!

It is incredible how gullible people are showing themselves in falling for this guy!

No one really knows his experience or lack thereof, yet they want him to run the country!

No one knows his track record, yet they want him to run the country!

No one knows his ties or the extent thereof his links to people through his bagman Rezko, yet they want him to run the country!

Some people defiantly place feel good speeches over researching who will have control over the lives of 300+ million people!

People want to elect a man who has extreme knowledge in Constitutional Law of the US and if you check into some of his exploits thus far, his shady deals and dirty money are all barely within the limits of the law! This is what he is an expert in doing!

This man's links visa vie his bagman money and political fixer Rezko, who's close friend is Mr. Auchi, an Iraqi Billionaire who has had ties to the Baath Party since the '50s, made millions brokering weapons to Iraq in the '90s and as well as being the largest shareholder of a bank that held personal accounts for Saddam!

Yet people believe a guy who simply says "I don't know my chief financers connections, isn't good enough for a rational thinking person!

Yet people want and trust this person to hold the highest office in the land not knowing whom this person is, aside from some feel good speeches!

Wake up America and look at the people behind the figure out there making you feel good with speeches! It is ridiculous that no one to date has demanded solid answers from this man that is ridiculous to say the least! Demand full and accurate transparency not poor rhetoric!

Be careful of what you wish for, and whom you chose to have the finger on the trigger of the most deadly arsenal weapons in the world!

Roca & Michelinphilly,

You have undercut Obama's credibility as a candidate of change and hope. Listen to yourselves. By hurling insults at the non Obama supporters, you have made a case to vote for anyone else but him. Real smart!

I love it when these neocons resort to lying about Obama's religion. They either get their information from emails forwarded about "Obama is a Muslim" which is patently false. They never look at their own side. Bush, the guy who Jesus told to invade Iraq. McCain - a 71 year old Bush clone who has said publicly that he will keep us in Iraq for "100 years." And Romney who was being touted as a great money manager and who has thrown away $35,000,000 of his own money on a failed campaign. This gives us an idea of how he would spend OUR money. As far as religion goes, it is seperate from government as the Constitution (or what's left of it after Bush) and makes no part of this election. If you want to argue invisible entities, ask Jesus and Muhammad to duke it out amongst themselves. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama. That's the way it's gonna be whether the neo cons like it or not. Thank Mr. Bush.

This is exactly why I will not vote for Obama or Hilary. They both want to grant amnesty to the illegals. If either of them win America as we know it is doomed.

It is disappointed to hear that some Latinos support Hillary Clinton. Look at the 1996 immigration law her husband passed, which pushed for more enforcement. As a Latina, I want a President that will fight for the rights of citizens and non-citizens in America. We don't need someone who will only use our people to win. Do your research on Hillary and you will find a lot about her, including her stance on driver licenses for the undocumented which she is against.

Get a glimpse on what Hillary said… "Anybody who committed a crime in this country or in the country they came from has to be deported immediately, with no legal process. They are immediately gone," Mrs. Clinton told a town hall meeting in Anderson, S.C., Thursday. On Wednesday, she told a crowd in North Bergen, N.J., that such criminals "absolutely" need to be deported. A day earlier, she told a rally in Salinas, Calif., that aliens with criminal records "should be deported, no questions asked."...

"No legal process," the New York senator said at a forum in Tipton, Iowa, according to a political news outlet, the Politico. "You put them on a plane to wherever they came from."

I support Obama because I truly believe he will bring about CHANGE, and is a respected organizer

Hillary has laid out an actual plan. She is not throwing out little perks day by day to get any votes from any groups. Of course not everyone will be happy, but the course of reforming immigration needs to be humane and fair. Latinos know that Hillary will seek that path over any other.

If someone can confirm since Barama has not re: his background, instead of attacking and leaving some republican candidates out of the race than let us have it! Turning and diverting an issue onto another just makes you feel better about your choice, not state the facts. So Eric, will be checking back for the facts. In the meantime, don't forget Huckabee/Paul, they give hope.

How about paying attention to the whole picture and how the media sends up simple little negative tales on Obama that are not much more than fluff, so that when they pummel Hillary, they can say they are being even handed. Its a way of not being called a racist or sexist, when in fact your are either, just get ratings up.

FALSEINFO: why would anyone think that having the "opportunity" to pay for insurance to protect ourselves from undocumented workers who drive is a positive thing? Oh, LOL, I get it, you are an insurance agent, right?

another reason why he was scored to be the MOST liberal member of Senate last year. is no moderate he's a far lefists socialist. Change is right, change toward socialism. SOS - style over substance. He's a wolf in sheeps clothing to say the least. he's not trustable.

Allowing illegals to attain a drivers license is a good idea. Each state can then identify people who are here illegally, test them to make sure they can drive competently and then collect revenue from them. Otherwise they drive illegally and don't get identified. This encourages them to start abiding by the laws.
It will cost billions to kick everyone out resulting in increased taxes for the citizens. If you are illegal you should identify yourself and allow your self to get in line for a work visa. We need to loosen our work visa standards to allow them to come here and work and pay into the system. People just want to blame someone for their bad votes for Bush for the past 2 elections.

Irma,

You did have to pay something when that illegal immigrant hit you last week. Sure there is Undocumented Driver coverage, but you paid for that extra coverage in your insurance premium. Providing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants will decrease the chances of people being hit by unlicensed/uninsured motorists, thus decreasing the amount auto insurance companies have to pay for repair and hospital costs. As a result, our auto insurance premiums won't be as expensive.

You probably didn't have to pay anything out of pocket because you have excellent auto insurance coverage (and probably pay a higher premium for that coverage than more basic plans). Some auto insurance plans don't cover 100% of expenses incurred when an undocumented driver hits you.

If this goes through, I won't need need a birth certificate or SS# to get a drivers license?

"I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan
for peace. So, here's one plan."

1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their
affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega,
Milosovich and the rest of those good ol' boys: We will never
"interfere" again.

2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with
Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We
would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in
the fence.

3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and
leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder
will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where
they are. France would welcome them.

4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90
days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would
be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't
hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any
more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they
don't attend classes, they get a "D" (for "deport") and it's back home
baby.

6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy
wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but
will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The
caribou will have to cope for a while.

7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel
for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go
somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells
filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we
will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever for seeds,
rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them
is stolen or given to the Army. The people who need it most get very
little, if anything.

9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't
need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building
would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way no one
can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The language we speak is
ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...

Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.
The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your poor, your
tired, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling,
"You want a piece of me?"

Irma,

See what you think on this. You seem to be a soul in kind, with me :)

I want all of the Obamathon supporters to realize that I was impressed with his appearance, his calm, his great style. I will vote for him if he wins, no doubt about that.

I just believe that if you strip away the desire to apply even more golden clothes to the emperor, you cannot possibly compare ‘beliefs, hopes, dreams’ to fact, figures, dates, bills, and actual events.

But Obama is getting it both ways when he says ‘I would have never . . . ‘ or ‘I would have done that differently . . . ‘.

How does he know what he would have done? He is able to say what he would have done, without facing the consequences of his actionsand that's weak at best.

In hindsight, and it seems in his general view of himself, he can remain 100% correct on all issues, in all discussions, involving anyone that steps up to the challenge, any place, any time, any how.

The point here is that he wasn’t elected to high office at the time of these momentous decisions, and when faced with supposed facts, from sources one would think could be trusted, he did not have to face the wrath of his choices.
And as a result he more than likely would have voted Present, anyway.

And as for experience, just what incredible levels of experience has Barrack obtained, and how did he come to this Rosetta stone of knowledge?

Ambassador somewhere? No. Secretary of anything? No. Department of Labor, Education, Defense, Environment . . . . No.

He has a whole 2.5 years in high office, as a Junior Senator who started running for President after the first year.

He was in the state senate for 8 years, and that has its involvements, not on a national scale of course, but still, there are decisions to be made. Unless you vote Present a hundred plus times. Then you don't have to make ANY decisions now, do you?

But let us remember that to this day, Illinois is not some bastion of escape for the ills of America. It has problems. Vast, unaltered problems.

Chicago (check that ABC headline - I wrote this in another blog 4 hours earlier), Chicago is still run-down, old, polluted, filled with crime, poverty, traffic, drugs, guns, pornography (if you care about it, me, its your right to have it), prostitution, low wages, slum housing, communicable diseases, homelessness, lack of medical insurance, child abuse, rape, arson, and hunger.

I do not see any difference whatsoever in Chicago or Illinois in general, having had Obama in the state house for 8 years. The above problems were there before him. And they didn’t evaporate because of him.

The conditions that Mr. Obama found when he entered the state house, were the same conditions he left behind. But higher callings were, uh, calling.

So what, you say. So everything, I reply.

I do not believe that someone who hasn’t been in high office, let alone only lower state legislatures, has the fight, the experience, the know-how, or the qualifications, to be President Of The United States. They just simply cannot prove their abilities through actions.

If one has little to point to when presenting their evidence, they do not win the case. Unless your OJ Simpson.

But when the state that was left behind, for ego and ambition, is no better off today than it was before your arrival, that may be all the evidence that is required. It speaks volumes. And its speaks truthfully.

It is the deeds that you do not the words that you say.

He is a nice man, a well presented man.
He is very articulate. He is successful and professional. But he is vague, non-descript, imprecise, and deliberately convuluted.

He takes the high road because he can avoid contentious details that way. He votes ‘present’ on bills that require his decisions, even in the US Senate and explains them away with incorrect, if not misleading, excuses.

He doesn't take a positionhimself but derides those who were brave enough to try and decide. Up or Down. Not 'Maybe'.

But he is well versed and attractive. Savvy and inspiring.

But he is not prepared to lead because his habit of jumping positions before he has adequately completed the job he was elected to do in the first place shows weakness, ego, and pride.

And he cannot make a tough decision that might have consequences as evidenced by 'Present', 'Present', 'Present' . . . 130 times.

Ambition and a sense of right, like a royal mandate from God, though long dispensed with by Reason, drives the ego to reach for what one hasn't yet proven their capacity to deal with.

One does not reward ambition with position, unless results prove the merits behind doing so.

There are no 'merits' found in Illinois that one can point to as a reason to entrust the defense and governance of the United States, to the purple prose and poetic rhetoric of a junior politician.

Google Illinois and take a peek: Crime rates, health rates, public housing conditions, wages, guns, disease, traffic, pollution, job rates, foreclosures, unemployment, literacy rates, homelessness rates, business failures, bankruptcies . . . there is nothing in Illinois very different than a lot of US states.

I know that momentous change is not accomplished by one's self. It takes a village. And it can't be done in just 8 years. But it can be started. It can be seen as a beginning. Unless of course, there is no start, and thus no beginning.

And when you promise the heavens and promise the earth, one can reasonably expect miracles from the miracle worker. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

But there are no miracles to be found; no proof of real recovery. No example of corrected troubles that would cause the Nation to burst through Illinois' borders, desperate to experience this new promised land.

It was promised, yes.
It just wasn't delivered.

People can't stand the honest soul that keep it real probably it's politics or human nature we need to change our way of life period. All because obama made truth statement about immigration issues some group of fellow americans inside this room wanted to hang themselves over path to citizenship for folks been here working already that's best way to handle the problem instead of thinking of deporting (12)millions out of america "INSANE"

What an IDIOT!
Isn't there one candidate that is not a TRAITOR to the law-abiding American citizen? If you are not going to do anything about America's porous borders expect apply band-aids, then take the money we are wasting on the Dept of Homeland Security and establish a workable legal immigration plan. If many peasant farmers can make their way into America without any resistance, don't you think any terrorists (assuming there are actually any) would be streaming over here to cause destruction? Get real. This country is going to hell in a handbasket and none of the Presidential candidates today show any signs of reversing the slide.

>>>>before Obama (in a debate) is against giving illegals driver's licenses now he is for it? A flip-flop.<<<

This is not true. If you read the transcript of the debate in which Sen. Clinton had such difficulty with the question (sorry I can't remember which debate that was by date) you'll see that Sen. Obama said quite clearly that he supported giving driver's licences to undocumented workers because he saw it as an issue of national security ... which it is. In addition, as pointed out, it provides a great protection to other motorists (the uninsured motorist coverage is something *we* have to request and pay extra for and it's cost is based on the number of uninsured drivers and likelihood of a collision).

I commend him for taking -- and not retreating from -- a position that he (and others) feel is the best approach, even when he knows that it will subject him to violent criticism.

Those people come here to work not to drive. Crack down on employers and there will be not illegals here, nor wages going down. But the Republicans will never do that, No!!! They've been so happy taking political contributions from these employers or pitting on side of low-income electorate against another for political gain. That's why Mitt Romney has never complain when those illegals were working for him. Even Lou Dobbs, the demagogue-in-chief, i wonder why he has launched a campaign to close the borders instead of a campaign to crack down on employers or boycott products or services coming from these businesses?
Go Obama!!! I've been waiting for this may whole life, a politician who is asking us to think and who is calling for the best of us not the worse.
If there is no job here for these people they will not be there, that's the bottom line.
Finally, i don't see any pandering here, it would have been much more easier for him to denounce it.

He is trying to get votes from the latinos, I am a latina I will not be voting for him. Ilegals should not have driver licences.

I don't have a problem with giving illegals driver's licenses - as long as it is indicated on the license that the person has not been able to show proof of legal residency.

Requiring all non-citizens and citizens alike to have a valid driver's license has been statically proven to increase more insured drivers and improved public safety on the roads. It is called accountability and taking ownership of managing a difficult problem. The driver license is just one database tool to track illegal activity and problems caused by illegal Immigration.

However, the root cause of illegal immigration is economic in nature and which is fueled by the U.S. government's weak relationship to the government of Mexico and the rest of Latin America to address this very issue and associated root causes. Illegal immigration is a symptom of a greater problem.

Illegal immigration issue needs to be handled by emotional sober approach or the cost to the tax payer will be mis-managment with cost over-runs to fix the problem throughout the issue's life cycle. (sound familiar... Iraq?)

There are those who want to rant and rave about this issue just raise the ire of people and offer no realistic plan how to pay for the cost of deportation at the expense of unproductive flag waving.

We need to move our country away from the subjective flag-waving nationalist linguists to the objective data-driven problem solvers and manager-leader realists, who can produce international results not parochial politics as usual.

Obama is doing anything to win--including illegal thing. Giving illegal immigrants driver's license is illegal, it will be harmful to other citizens. But because the Latinos want it, and Obama wants Latinos's votes, so he support it.

Is this Obama really honest and trustworthy to be a good presidnt?

DRIVING A VEHICLE IS A PRIVILEDGE!!! NOT A RIGHT... NO INSURANCE , CAR IMPOUNDED.

Do you think they will stop driving if they cannot get a license?? If they cannot pass the test, will they stop driving? If they cannot afford the fees to get a license, will they stop driving? If they cannot afford to buy insurance, will they stop driving? Of course not!!!!!!!! Obama is trying to get the Hispanic vote - it is so obvious! I can't believe Hillary is not on this bandwagon.
The only man with integrity that is not pandering to get your vote is Ron Paul. Please see what he has to say.
The borders must be closed. Anyone here illegally must be deported.

To: Where are you:

Be realistic man, Obama is not promising to change America by himself just as a coach cannot lead a team to victory by himself. But if he can provide the mental and physchological atmosphere that causes people to mobolize and act for a common purpose, well thats the man we are looking for!!

As Caroline Kennedy said, we dont need another president with a plan, the time calls for someone with a vision!

Requiring all non-citizens and citizens alike to have a valid driver's license has been statically proven to increase more insured drivers and improved public safety on the roads. It is called accountability and taking ownership of managing a difficult problem. The driver license is just one database tool to track illegal activity and problems caused by illegal Immigration.

However, the root cause of illegal immigration is economic in nature and which is fueled by the U.S. government's weak relationship with the government of Mexico and the rest of Latin America to address this very issue and associated root causes. Illegal immigration is a symptom of a greater problem.

Illegal immigration issue needs to be handled by emotional sober approach or the cost to the tax payer will be mis-managment with cost over-runs to fix the problem throughout the issue's life cycle. (sound familiar... Iraq?)

There are those who want to rant and rave about this issue just to raise the ire of people and offer no realistic plan how to pay for the cost of deportation at the expense of flag waving.

We need to move our country away from the subjective flag-waving nationalist linguists to the objective data-driven problem solvers and manager-leader realists, who can produce global results not parochial politics as usual.

2009whereareyou?"But when the state that was left behind, for ego and ambition, is no better off today than it was before your arrival, that may be all the evidence that is required. It speaks volumes. And its speaks truthfully.
It is the deeds that you do not the words that you say." Yes, 2009, I am with you. I was bothered by his "I will be right on day one." Oh really....well, that will be for us to judge won't it? Good luck with thinking you're always right! Bush thinks he was always right too. No matter how much we screamed at him on how WRONG he was, is.

OBAMA WILL DO ANYTHING FOR A VOTE! THIS MAN IS PATHETIC I HAVE LATINO FRIENDS AND THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM! HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR MINORITIES! HE MAKES ME SICK!

If illegals immigrants are a threat to society because they are illegally driving...do we here a pattern forming in this sentence. Illegal, illegal, illegal. I am a born citizen and if i illegally drive i go to jail and lose my privelage. If they are illegally here-wrong, if they illegally drive-wrong so....jail them. They all ready broke law if they choose to drive-DEPORT
As for them providing ID, you can get id w/out driving privilages. It's called a green card or just a state ID. If they truely do not belong here, DEPORT that simple.

How does one provide legal documentation and proof of identity, in order to obtain legal documentation, when one is illegal?

No valid birth certificate. No valide social security number.

How can you give a legal identification to an illegal person, unlawfully in the country? Wouldn't they be subject to deportation upon such a request for a license? And if not, why not?

I know that when I was in England, and I had no National Insurance I.D. number yet, I had to prove who I was with my passport, what I was doing there, if I was employed, why, by whom, and how. If I failed to answer any of these questions right, my a$$ was an hour away from a deportation ride home.

Now can it be that hard?

The other question is, however, if Americans will not DO the jobs that some of these illegals are doing, then how do we staff those jobs once we spend 30 Billion dollars deporting all of these folks?

You cannot deport 12,000,000. America, if anything, is consistently in a state of panic, over their world image - al la Al Jazeera commercials from the U.S. and those folks still hate our guts.

We have to have a bit of heart though. We have to find people a way to exist but not a free ride. They are here, so now what. That is a product of a President who said he was going to tighten the ship, run America like a business, close those borders, and get Osama. All lies. And he knew they were lies, as he was saying them. No cigar or sperm on a dress will ever equate to this scumbag, no matter how hard to try or loud your little NeoCon voice box can scream.

So what to do with all the people. Too costly to chuck them out. Do you knock, door to door, business by business? That would take the Gestapo to do, and then many would slip through the cracks. And who the hell wants to be Nazis about this? Awful.

If we are too good, or lazy to do the low wage jobs some of these poor souls are doing, shoudln't be let them? I mean AFTER the jobs are offered to the U.S. citizens, and we reject them as beneath our dignity to do, shouldn't we let them have them then? Someone does have to do the work, and we damn sure know it ain't the CEOs and their families that are going to go out into those fields and pick. Oh no, not them. Not the Waltons. Not the Bushes. Oh no. Some other trash has to do THAT style work, those folks are just too good to stoop that low. B4st4rds.

So let's get these jobs situated. Let Americans work if they will, and if not, then let's put these illegal folks in to do the job. fine them, make them pay taxes, put them at the end of the line, DEMAND WITHOUT EXCEPTION they learn to read, write, and UNDERSTAND the English language. Give them a pathway, but not a freebie.

And remember, if you can, like I can, what it was like to be destitute, desperate, tired, hunger, and scared. And to have America there, huge, and beautiful, and helpful, was like having God him/herself right beside you, holding your hand while keeping your head above water. We are that type of country. When we want to be.

:)

Illegal Alien Population

Top Ten Countries of Birth

All countries

Mexico 2,700,000 54%

Russia 335,000 6.7 %

China 165,000 3.3%

Canada 120,000 2.4%

Haiti 105,000 2.1%

Philippines 95,000 1.9%

Honduras 90,000 1.8%

The Bahamas, 70,000 1.4%

Nicaragua 70,000 1.4

Poland 70,000 1.4%

Obama is trying to get to votes from these people families, don't let him do it.

In any case, the posts here who represent Obama support, are the best repellents for more Obama support. I felt highly insulted by Obama supporters saying negative things about Hillary's Latino support. Now Obama is kissing up to Latinos and you're all jumping on that bandwagon. Too late!