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Obama Fires Back at Clinton
February 15, 2008 11:40 AM
ABC News' David Wright, Sunlen Miller and Ursula Fahy Report: Sen. Barack Obama was especially harsh and dismissive today of rival Sen. Hillary Clinton’s latest round of attacks.
“I understand that Sen. Clinton periodically, when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of boosting her appeal,” Obama said in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. “But this kind of gamesmanship is not what the American people are looking for.”
In Ohio yesterday, Clinton essentially accused Obama of being all talk, no action.
“Let me tell you,” she told an audience in Columbus, Ohio, “there is a big difference between speeches and solutions.”
At a news conference today Obama shot back: “She has taken double the amount from lobbyists than any other Democrat or Republican. That’s not being in the solution business that’s being part of the business as usual business.”
Obama laughed off the attack ad Clinton is running here in Wisconsin, accusing Obama of trying to dodge debates.
“There’s a debate coming up next Thursday in Ohio -- after the 18 that we’ve already had,” he said, smiling broadly. “This is a distraction and I think people know that.”
The Obama campaign has mounted a response ad to Clinton’s ad.
He said: “Our general attitude is: anytime someone goes up with something negative we respond.”
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Nice job - just dismiss the attacks that can be easily dismissed. Never want to get caught in a long explanation, even when you're right, because the very need to explain is something of a loss.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 15, 2008 11:45:35 AM
Yes Mr. Obama, and you have give triple what Hillary has taken to buy your way into the White House with the Super Delegate vote. Why didn't you mention or try to explain that.
Mr. Obama is a crooked Chicago Politician, and he can BS with the best of them. People are now becoming aware of how much he is a player.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 11:52:17 AM
Talking about lobbyists, Mr. Obama, the house which you are staying in was purchased after collaborating with Mr. Rezko and the deal which now you are trying to wash off by calling it a "bone headed mistake". That's some judgement on day one.
Posted by: ES | Feb 15, 2008 12:01:19 PM
Arrogance will backfire. Thanks for describing him as dismissive. That always works for a candidate!
ps: change does not include buying superdelegates. they are both the same.
Posted by: Tony | Feb 15, 2008 12:02:32 PM
I think some internal polls might be showing Obama's support slipping in Wisconsin. Even Rasmussen that always under polls Clinton on Obama's best polling day ever, the 13th only showed him 4% ahead, within the margin of error. Mr. Obama's refusal to debate Clinton is resonating. 75% of Wisconsin's say he should debate her there. That's a lot!
Posted by: s.b. | Feb 15, 2008 12:04:03 PM
Yes I agree Tony, Almighty King OBama slapping little Hillary's bottom with a nice spanking and telling her to go sit in a corner for being bad.
What utter arrogance. This guy's days are numbered . He talks a good game, but his words and his heart are speaking different languages.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 12:05:39 PM
Clinton won't release her tax returns. Clinton got more than 4 times as many (over $400 million worth) earmarks for NY. Clinton takes money from PACs and lobbyists. She wants delegates from states that were told they wouldn't count. How do you spell "unethical"? H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!
Posted by: Janet | Feb 15, 2008 12:05:47 PM
And of course Janet, Mr. Obama is squeaky clean. He is a saint among politicians.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 12:08:13 PM
Mrs. Clinton has to go 'negative' at this time. . .what else can she do.
She has been out-spent; and out-classed by someone she ignored for too long !!
He'll continue to talk about issues and answer questions. .same as her !!!
What matters are the voters. .and the final chapter will be written in Texas and Ohio. . .stay tuned.
Posted by: BJ | Feb 15, 2008 12:08:26 PM
To be fair BJ Mr. OBama has been slamming Mrs. Clinton in every speech for weeks. No ones says anything is wrong with that. He can do no wrong.
He has been given a complete pass and has been the media darling since the beginning. It is about time Hillary took off the gloves and came out fighting. She is going to throttle him at the next debate.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 12:10:58 PM
Dennis: I don't hate Mr. Obama at all. I just think right now, voting for him to become President would be a huge, terrible and costly mistake. Don't I have a right to support the candidate of my choice and speak out for him/her anymore? Is this still the USA and a free country right?
I see a terrible amount of hate and sexism for Hillary coming from Obama supporters constantly, but I suppose you think that is acceptable.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 12:21:54 PM
$400,000,000 for NY? I thought you all said she has done nothing for NY?
Just bend the news to suit your tastes, and ignore anything that darkens the door step of your candidate.
Bravery in the upcoming New World. Can't wait.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 15, 2008 12:28:30 PM
If obama thinks this is an attack, he need to buckle up for McCain, should he continue to get the free pass from the media. The gloves will come off with the Republicans and a smirk and put down won't get him very far with the right wing pit bulls. He can't debate because he can't win on the facts. It always looks bad for him when "a girl" beats him up on national tv. Wis. isn't going to like the "assumption" that he will win their vote.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | Feb 15, 2008 12:28:46 PM
Jordan..no one is saying that Obama is a saint. It's interesting though that all the Clinton campaign can throw at Obama is that he won't debate in WI and his speeches aren't specific enough for them. If they actually had dirt on him they would be using it. So Obama may not be "squeaky clean" but he sure has less to hide than Hillary.
Posted by: Janet | Feb 15, 2008 12:28:49 PM
Mark, Mr. OBama's plan is not any better. At least 15 million or more Americans will suffer without any health insurance under his plan. I have been examining Hillary's plan, and the poorest people will still have health insurance and even thought it will be mandated, the poorest sector of the country will receive subsidies and tax credits and other help so they will be able to afford excellent coverage, the same as congress receives. That is Hillary's plan, and I support it.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 12:30:18 PM
The Clinton's had their shot in the White House. Remember you got "two for the price of one" under Bill's eight years. Now is the time for a new voice, new perspective, and new fresh ideas. Hillary's tit-for-tat negative attacks when she's perceived as not being the current front runner or lost the momementum are doing no favors for ANY democrats chance in November. Demos: remember the big picture. Losing the Whitehouse for another four years to more failed Bush policies- foreign and domestic would sink this country into further abyss. Obama has to repond to them. He can't let the spin doctors of the Clinton political machine taint the facts.
Posted by: Obama fan | Feb 15, 2008 12:30:26 PM
Sen. Clinton has said she has 35 years of experience. Last time I checked she was first lady for eight years. What experience are we talking about "Planning State Dinners". She has been a Senator for less than 6 years. I did take math and that adds up to about 14 years. I ask where is the 35 years??? DO we really want another LYING CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE???
When the tough gets going Sen. Clinton starts to lie and distort. That's a great quality for our leaders to have.
Posted by: Memphis Red | Feb 15, 2008 12:32:36 PM
Here's a running list of Obama's lobbyists and PAC people
As if he is pure, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Donald Alexander (Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld)
John Buscher (Holland & Knight)
Kevin Chavous (Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal)
Tom Daschle (Alston & Bird)
Stan Fendley (Corning)
Elizabeth Fox (Jolly/Rissler)
Francis Grab (Washington Council Ernst & Young)
Tim Hannegan (Wexler & Walker Public Policy Associates)
Tom Jensen (Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal)
Broderick Johnson (Bryan Cave Strategies)
Mark Keam (Verizon)
Bob Maloney (Maloney Government Relations)
Marcus Mason (The Madison Group)
Andy Rosenberg (Ogilvy Government Relations)
Bobby Sepucha (Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal)
Jarvis Stewart (Stewart Partners)
Tom Walls (McGuireWoods)
Michael Williams (Credit Suisse)
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 15, 2008 12:33:00 PM
Interesting comments - but I think it's time to talk issues that affect Americans and to be fair to both Obama and Hillary, they both have been talking substance recently. I am an independent, but I might be shifting towards Obama now that he is talking more of substance... Good speech is vital and inspirational, but a good combination will be good speech and substance. I will be watching...
Posted by: Ton Oguara | Feb 15, 2008 12:33:18 PM
and before everyone cries foul,
Check the data against the truth and see, for a change, that all is not as the media has put it. Before you attack and say it is lame, check to see if it is true first. Then attack if you can prove it wrong.
PAC and lobbyists work heavily for both candidates, not just one. Sorry to disappoint with facts. They are like that sometimes. Aggrevating and inescapable.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 15, 2008 12:35:30 PM
Jordan..you must have looked on Hillary's website about her health plan. Have you even bothered to look at Obama's? Their plans are very similar except that in Obama's it's not mandated. His plan mandates it for all children and allows those 25 and under to be covered by their parents' plan. It provides the same subsidies as Hillary's so it will be just as affordable. Your statement that 15 million people won't be covered is right out of Hillary's stump speech. Unfortunately it is not true.
Posted by: Janet | Feb 15, 2008 12:36:11 PM
"Some people may think words are change. You and I know better. Words are cheap. You can't just talk about the special interests. You have to take them on," Hillary said. What a hypocrite! Hillary is the candidate who gets the most money from the 'special interests." Also, she managed not to show up to vote against a provision that grants immunity to the telecom companies of wiretapping this week. The telecom companies are one of the 5 most powerful lobbying forces in Washinton and she is backed by the telecom companies. Yes, Hillary you are right - "words are cheap." You just proved it with your action - not to show up to vote against a special interest group.
Posted by: philip | Feb 15, 2008 12:37:35 PM
Here's even more lobbyists in this rundown:
Bundlers for Barack Obama Who Have Registered as Federal Lobbyists
Frank Clark
IL
Commonwealth Edison
Scott Harris
DC
Harris Wiltshire and Grannis
Allan J. Katz
FL
Akerman Senterfitt
Robert S. Litt
MD
Arnold & Porter
Thomas J. Perrelli
VA
Jenner and Block
Thomas A. Reed
VA
Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis LLP
Paul N. Roth
NY
Schulte Roth & Zabel
Miriam Sapiro
DC
Summit Strategies
Alan Solomont*
MA
Solomont Bailis Ventures
Tom E. Wheeler*
DC
Core Capital Partners
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 15, 2008 12:38:09 PM
b sure what u say obama all the way politics have been this way for years its time we stopped and that's what he's trying to do listen to the American people Clinton is complaining and firing any cring and c where I'm going with this
Posted by: Steven | Feb 15, 2008 12:38:19 PM
Hillary's healthplan is a much older plan, having existed LONG before Obama's.
And what do we do with the people that get sick and don't have insurance, because they can opt out of paying for it?
WE pay for their visits. They doesn't sound preferable to me. That some of us have to pay while those that don't feel like it just head to the emergency room for a free visit?
That is not fair either.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 15, 2008 12:40:08 PM
With all the Clinton attack on Obama. He has been vetted. The ideal that a republican attack will be less impacting on hillary than Obama is same old political trick. She has lunched all kinds of attack already in cohorts with republicans, they attacked his health care plan, call him a muslim, call him talker, false hopes and the list goes on. He is vetted and will do well with the Republican machine. If he can witstand the Clinton machine built on 3 decades, he has proved the cynics wrong.
Posted by: james | Feb 15, 2008 12:41:39 PM
Obama told us that he did not take money from lobbyists, but he did. He also sent more than $694,000 to superdelegates. Hillary never said that she did not take money from lobbyists. The key difference is who is a liar
Posted by: mike_88 | Feb 15, 2008 12:41:51 PM
Poll tracking by Real Clear Politics shows Obama beating McCain in the general election. It also shows that Hillary will either lose or come up short against McCain. Rasmussen Reports show Obama winning Nevada and Colorado from McCain, two red states, while Clinton does not.
Posted by: InfoMan | Feb 15, 2008 12:45:00 PM
The same Obama speech. Nothing new.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 15, 2008 12:45:03 PM
if this pitifully weak attacking is all it takes to be considered vetted, then let's allow teenagers to run for President. Why the age limit? Who needs to back up what they say with facts? Who needs to really have done a thing to prove what they are telling us?
This guy is vetted in dodging truth, accidentally voting wrong or not voting at all 130X. He is vetted in a lack of details. He is vetted in giving favors to donors. He is vetted attacking with Wal-Mart while his wife is connected to Wal-Mart via Treehouse. He is vetted in talking up Ethics Bills he didn't write, introduce, edit, or sponsor IN ANY WAY.
He is not even prepared for what the Republicans are going to do to him. If he thinks he's had it rough so far - just wait until they take Sinclair, and Exelon, and Rezko, and University of Chicago Hospital, and PAC and lobbyist denials, and 130 Present votes, and OOOPs votes in the state senate. They are going to reem him and then everyone is going to say its a plot to get the AA guy, when all along he is sort of dodging the fact he is only HALF black. We will be told we plotted to defeat the dream out of racism and stupidity, meanwhile none of the followers search outside his website for facts. They just keep quoting his own sites as facts without checking for bias.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 15, 2008 12:47:40 PM
The thing about Washington is , the longer a person is there , the more corrupt and crooked they become. I see Obama's lack of "TIME" in Washington as a huge asset , because he hasn't been there long enough to become totally tainted.
Clinton is part of the problem , not the solution , because her and Bill thrive on back door deals and scandal, that's the part they love , and it all boils down to "whats in it for me"..........and to hell with the American people.
Experience...........Obama -vs- Clinton
Senator Obama --During the first eight years of Senator Obama’s elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:
233 regarding health-care reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
- the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
- The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
- The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
- The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
- The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)
Senator Clinton -- Senator Clinton’s, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Hon
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Senator Clinton's bills are more substantive:
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
In Conclusion, you now have the facts straight from the Senate Records vault.
Posted by: James Brown | Feb 15, 2008 12:47:56 PM
The onus is on the Super delegates to tell the American people what is actually going on.
Obama, being relatively new and young, need more resources and convincing to do, than the status quo Hilary Clinton and Bill.
It is even mor pathetic for the Super delegates to even receive money from Obama, since he is not as rich as the Clintons.
The bottom line;The presidential nominee of the party shall and must be determine by the people's choice and not those of the super delegates.
I STRONGLY BELIEVE 90.9% OF THE SUPER DELEGATES HAVE RECEIVED ONE FORM OR KIND OF GRATIFICATION FROM BILL CLINTON AND BY EXTENSION INDIRECTLY, FROM HILARY CLINTON TOO. OBAMA'S OWN IS PRAGMATICALLY INSIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO THE CLINTONS.
TRYING TO MAKE NOISE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IN OUT IF CONTEXT FASHION IS ANOTHER WAY OF INDIRECTLY FIGHTING AGAINST THE NOMINATION OF OBAMA!
Posted by: Odeh | Feb 15, 2008 12:48:07 PM
why is everyone ignoring all of the scandels that clinton was apart of when her husband was in office..or him himself was a part of..what nobody remembers any that!!!!!!come on...
Posted by: chris | Feb 15, 2008 12:56:15 PM
Obama is young, but he did take more money from lobbyists last month and he sent more money to superdelegates. He can do anything he calculated to win,
Posted by: Yes he can | Feb 15, 2008 1:01:19 PM
just sceptic...thank you for writing that finally someone who relizes what i see!! thank you.....
Posted by: chris | Feb 15, 2008 1:06:15 PM
The differences I see between Obama's and Clinton's health plans are choice. You can choose to keep the plan you have, get your own plan or enroll in his expanded plan. If you show up at the hospital and need care and don't otherwise have insurance you get covered by the gov't plan. Done. Or you can go with HRC and be required to enroll in a private plan, oddly enough this is supported by the insurance companies, with no regulation on the level of service they are required to provide, these are the same groups that want your doctor to tell them ways to limit your coverage. If my choice are to keep my freedom to choose, or to lose my freedom to choose, I'll keep my freedom.
Posted by: Louis | Feb 15, 2008 1:06:46 PM
Just Sceptic: Get real. These are all vicious rumors in the tabloids. None of these dark deeds can be attributed or blamed on the Clinton's. You talk like they are mass murders and will put a contract out on anyone who crosses them...lol what paranoia..
Don't you think by now, someone would have confessed, charged would have been brought against the Clinton's and they would both be rotting in jail by now.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 1:07:17 PM
and he didn't so much fire back as to address the fact that she is playing tactics rather than promoting herself.
Posted by: Louis | Feb 15, 2008 1:09:26 PM
It's time for a FACT CHECK on recent reports of funds distributed to superdelegates!
1) Who are the superdelegates?
FACT: Superdelegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention include all Democratic members of the United States Congress, Democratic governors, various additional elected officials, members of the Democratic National Committee, as well as "all former Democratic Presidents, all former Democratic Vice Presidents, all former Democratic Leaders of the U.S. Senate, all former Democratic Speakers of the U.S. House of Representatives and Democratic Minority Leaders, as applicable, and all former Chairs of the Democratic National Committee."
(Source: Democratic National Committee)
2) When was this money distributed?
FACT: The numbers recently released on funds distributed to superdelegates date back to 2005. Any money given by the Clinton and Obama offices to support Congressional candidates up for reelection in 2006 would fall into this statistic.
Look at all the money Obama and Clinton are funnel to the superdelegates to buy this election!
FACT: The most recent numbers extend only to June 2007 - 7 months before the first primary even took place, and 8 months before the superdelegates became relevant in the campaign.
Posted by: Brandon | Feb 15, 2008 1:10:13 PM
Obama said in his speech that he won’t build the bridge to the 21st century but he would build the bridge to the future. He won’t play old politic as Clinton did. He is tired of old Washington. But, the true is, Obama received help from Ted Kennedy and Kerry. Ted Kennedy, Kerry are old politicians and they played old politic with Hillary to help Obama. Obama is a liar; he bridged with the 21st century people and also accepted the favors from what he is trying to run away from to get to the top.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 1:12:01 PM
nice people will always be nice. nasty people can only be nice temporarily. Now we saw the ugly face of Hillary Clinton yesterday again. That's her true color. Nasty, divisive,and mean. She claimed that she is tested. Yes. she is tested a liar, tested failurer. She claimed that she is action and solution. her 5 years frozen rate of margage and government mandated health plan were just can't be sold in US.
Posted by: brightofeyes | Feb 15, 2008 1:16:06 PM
Jordan - that 'saint' persona is something of a strawman you Clinton supporters created to argue against. Obama supporters, for the most part, understand he's a politician, with warts and everything. He happens to be a very good one, and more authentic than most.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 15, 2008 1:16:32 PM
As always Paul, I respect your opinion, but stating that Mr. OBama is a very good politician is not necessarily praise.
Being a good politician, only means to me he is no better or worse than Mrs. Clinton.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | Feb 15, 2008 1:21:03 PM
I’m wondering why Obama won’t use the “body count” to put Clintons down once for all? It is good story if they are true.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 1:21:55 PM
People have same thoughts will votes for each other.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 1:30:56 PM
Hillary ideas are original and Obama seems to add each one to his agenda. A message of hope is not the answer. Hillary's message is "Make It Happen". More questions should be asked about Obama and the Rezko connection.
Posted by: onenibble | Feb 15, 2008 1:32:28 PM
I don’t have anything against Obama, but I think 4 years experience is too little be presidential candidate
Obama its time for STOP your words with no actions
Obama its time for STOP your speeches with no solutions
Obama its time for STOP your talk with no actions
Obama its time for STOP your cheap speeches words
Obama its time for STOP biased media that’s in your favor
Obama words are not change and anti Clinton media might helped you but not all the way will STOP you. Truth will speak out
Yes - it’s Time to point out weaknesses! and STOP free rides from bised media like ABC & MSNBC.. They can not harm you any more - they already passed the border line on this. Truth wins at some point
Posted by: david | Feb 15, 2008 1:40:44 PM
That's so true Ironroof,
you seem to be the only openminded person on her without judgement on either side!
Hillary is loosing so now she wants to "Debate" when she was ahead she just praised, Honestly look at it Mr. Obama got votes from all over....I lived in Seattle, it's only 4% African American, explain that, in Iowa it's barely any African American's there....Hillary thought she'll win SC since her huband did good there when he ran there.
Posted by: Just Sceptic | Feb 15, 2008 1:40:48 PM
In a Debate each candidate has the opportunity to deny or defend from any attack. Why Obama is affraid of them?
Posted by: RAul | Feb 15, 2008 1:45:02 PM
Why is it OK for Senator Clinton to "show confidence" by making false accusations, and taking an "any means necessary" attitude to get the nomination, but for Senator Obama, it is a sign of "arrogance and cockiness" when he does not get down in the mud with her?
There are no perfect candidates, so I want someone who can help to repair the damage that has already been inflicted upon the citizens of this country by an administration who have no idea how the real world operates. At this point, Mr. Obama has demonstrated that his character and integrity is more important than mudslinging.
Posted by: Nancy | Feb 15, 2008 1:45:56 PM
I can see that Hillary's people are getting as angry as their candidate. Wow, that anger must be infectious. Hillary thinks this nomination is an entitlement. That it's somethign owed to her. She thinks this is what Bill owes her for all the years she tolerated his cheating. Well, she can go straight to hell. The voice of the American people are calling for change, not a return to the Clintons sordid PAST.
Posted by: Roca | Feb 15, 2008 2:06:24 PM
When the Democrat wins, things will be changed regardless who the winner is. This country need a leader, who is down-to-earth, hand-on experience rather than vote for me because “I’m less evil than the other”.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 2:09:43 PM
I follow the debate and am becoming a political junkie. i was around in the 90's and I have no doubt that Pres. Clinton accomplshed many things for the Dem's. I also know that his methods of getting things done created alot of unnecessary press. the scandals took away from what should have been getting done. I do not want to go through that again. Vetted Smetted.
I don't beileve Obama walks on WATER, but if you can raise more money, give more money to the superdelegates, have abetter ground game, win the popular vote and try very hard to run a positive campaign, except when you have to hit back. I think that you probably have the intelligents and abilities to deal with the negatives.
Posted by: Lonestarkaty | Feb 15, 2008 2:09:52 PM
My thoughts exactly Raul!
I think there's a double standard there. Hill's supporters want Obama to sell out his character as she has, so when he doesn't do it they get angry. Most likely they're enraged at the fact that Hillary has been forcefully challenged and not handed the nomination. It's sad!
Posted by: kings2beat | Feb 15, 2008 2:10:16 PM
I think America should look at the bigger picture - The world. If Clinton Wins we will be going back to the same old same old - Are these the only names that can lead America, Bush and Clinton? haven't we had enough of the Clintons and the Bushes - Obama represents a better embodiment of the real American Dream and you watch the biggest celebration ever when he becomes the President of USA. I doubt if clinton can beat McCain. America you got it wrong for the last 8 years and you did not care when the rest of the world called you dumb. the rest of the world is rising up and if America gets it wrong one more time we might as well kiss the superpower status goodbye
Posted by: JahIssa Waganda | Feb 15, 2008 2:13:43 PM
Obama received help from Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy, is an old politicians and he played old politic with Hillary to help Obama. Where is Obama's integrity? Maybe people are tired of old politic but not Obama.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 2:19:03 PM
Roca: As I said, people having same thoughts will vote for each other. Obama would say exactly what you said to Hillary supporters. What’s a good leader?
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 2:23:25 PM
I am supporting Obama I am a middle class citizen who barely maken it, I work for a small company bush's take more taxes out of my check I can afford to treat myself to anything it sad that Hillary is now talking about how she getting more votes from the upper Middle Class, I wondering how she feel about poor Middle Class Citizen who getting rip off with higher taxes to support the Iraq War that she supported, I cried last nite to see Poor family living in tents in New Orlean I wondering if American who hold Bush accountable for how Poor American taxes is being used for taxes not for American Poor family who need government assistant. CNN is the only new station who show American people the real story how poor people is treated in American, Hillary is not to be trusted just like Bush, It would be a outcry to see her elected president, We need to support Obama he is really for everyone I hope Obama will be elected president.
Posted by: Dre Atlanta | Feb 15, 2008 2:29:40 PM
This article quotes Obama ad saying, "this kind of gamesmanship is not what the American people are looking for" yet in another article posted here on ABC today entitled "Fact Check: Obama Flier Misleading"......
So, Barry Obama thinks it is okay to mail out fliers that are lies about another candidate so he can mislead voters and hope they vote for him and yet here we have an article telling us he is not about game playing.
Emperor Obama is certainly audacious. Distort and mislead was how another in-experienced candidate named George Bush who also promised to unite America and change Washington operated.
Not seeing much change. Perhaps Obama should stick to pretty and empty speeches instead.
Posted by: Mark | Feb 15, 2008 2:29:42 PM
Hilary's campaign is crumbling. Her supporters are likewise sinking deeper and deeper into despair in what has become comparable to an all-out war against Obama for having more charisma and a genuine character severely lacking in both Hilary and John McCain.
Despite all of these negative and arrogant commments by Hilary and her supporters fate has been chosen. Sink with grace.
Posted by: Joshua | Feb 15, 2008 2:30:47 PM
Rich, well educated peoples won't affect much by the economy down-turn. They have plenty of money to enjoy their luxury life. The young kids will fall back to their parents’ arms if they fail to stand alone. These classes of peoples need inspirations to excite them. The working class needs to think about how to put the food on the table every day. They don't dream and they care about who can provide the meals to them and Hillary does.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 15, 2008 2:35:16 PM
Now, now people. Be nice. We don't want to make Hillary cry. The mental zombiness of America showing its fear of the light is hilarious. For those who have been in a complacent position at work and have this sense of entitlement are always the ones to get looked over for promotion for the energetic and highly educated newcomer. This is a classic case of that. The ole battlewagon's time has come. A couple more torpedos and that boat is sunk. ITS OVER PEOPLE. FACE REALITY!
Posted by: Joris | Feb 15, 2008 2:44:33 PM
A new era will dawn if we elect obama as president, all right......it will assure young people that it is ok to do drugs, because obama once did drugs, and then he got elected president of the United States. What a hero and role model.........
Posted by: Get America Back on Track | Feb 15, 2008 2:54:23 PM
I'm not trying to insult Democrats that are not wealthy or educated, but i think when people assess the facts, they will see that it is Hillary Clinton that is all talk and no action. Fact is that Obama has done more in the Senate than Hillary (see for yourself, this is public record). He has passed more bills and co-authored more bills than Hillary. He has made more personal sacrifices than she has, and i think her attacks are extremely dishonest. He came from more humble beginnings,a dn didn't have the vaunted Clinton dynasty puffing him up. He has reduced her to her knees, and that shows his mettle. Is Obama a saint? Hell no! But Hillary is far worse than Obama. In fact, if she wins this nomination, i will not only vote for McCain, but i will donate the maximum amount allowable under the law.
Posted by: Roca | Feb 15, 2008 3:02:18 PM
Do you guys realise that every politician has to maintain some kind of friendship in the political inner circle. Therefore it is usual and absolute correct that they support each other financially and with their votes, when needed. "I give you, you give me back" Obama supported senator kerry`s candidacy for the potus, and senator clinton and her husband have been supporting other candidates of their choice. This is absolutely correct within a party otherwise one would not survive against a candidate with a better connection. Also, do not forget that Al gore was asked to step down in order to pave the way for Hilary because of the long standing relationship they have got.
So before accusing anyone, go check your facts. It is never a crime to support allies within an allowed framework. This just how our democracy works.
Posted by: pinto | Feb 15, 2008 3:09:21 PM
JordonClinton (Post 1:21) Re Obama and both being 'good politicians'. That being the case, I will STILL vote for Obama. Hillary, as I see it, is far too polarizing a figure. From the very beginning of the campaign, Obama has used unity words like 'We" and 'Us'. Hillary only began using his tone in the last 2 months. And more than that, I find her 'I know what's best for this country (and everyone in it????) attitude presumptuous.
Posted by: dream on | Feb 15, 2008 3:19:31 PM
If that's his best shot, Hillary will be fine. Obama=empty suit!
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | Feb 15, 2008 3:21:05 PM
Pinto? you're so correct....
See thats someone that isnt a onesided snake for comment, I voted for the Clinton's I lived in Little Rock and dated one of former Gov. Clinton's staffers. The Clinton's are good only when they're winning in a race, when they're loosing they are HELL!!!!
Posted by: Just Sceptic | Feb 15, 2008 3:31:17 PM
“I understand that Sen. Clinton periodically, when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of boosting her appeal,” Obama said in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. “But this kind of gamesmanship is not what the American people are looking for.”
As an Obama supporter, I feel like while everything Barack said is true this isn't the right time to be calling Hillary out for attacking him - because he's the front-runner. It's true it may have a tendency of coming across as more dismissive and possibly even arrogant rather than high-road, and makes him look kind of small.
I guess Barack's not used to being the front-runner or something but I think this is the time it's important to stay confident and not get flustered and just stay on message. The best way to disarm Hillary's attacks is to keep highlighting the particulars of his plans, his record of accomplishment, and his desire to make personal contact rather than preparing for a debate (which can take a lot of time) . . .
Posted by: Sam | Feb 15, 2008 3:38:01 PM
"Hillary's healthplan is a much older plan, having existed LONG before Obama's."
Yup, and it went nowhere...just like Hillary. She's in her desperate mode now, so there will be many more attacks...people may FINALLY see her for who she really is...d - e - s - p - e - r - a - t - e and willing to sell her soul to win.
Posted by: Cathi | Feb 15, 2008 3:38:02 PM
Is what somebody said true about 75% of the people of Wisconsin wanting to see them debate? If that's true, perhaps the sentiment behind it might be that people feel it would be the best way for them to see how Barack and Hillary's plans stack up against one another given that some of the details he's outlining probably seem 'new' to people who never checked out his website before for particulars.
If so I think a stronger way to fight back against Hillary's 'challenge' for another debate might be to:
(1) highlight how he wants to spend time with Wisconsonites (unlike Hillary who's in Texas, and because debate preparation takes time)
(2) on the stump summarize for people where their positions are the same and where they differ and what her critcisms of his policies have been so that he can counter them, and
(3) finally make the case that he's about RESULTS not just solutions (point to Hillary's failed healthcare and why it failed - mandates, inability to work across the aisle, etc)
Important not to dismiss the sentiment of the Wisconsin people by claiming Hillary's using dirty tactics if the majority does in fact want to see a debate . . .
Posted by: Sam | Feb 15, 2008 4:03:34 PM
CARL.....For the record: For all of Hillary's "experience," she sure makes the wrong calls. Her health care plan in '93, NAFTA, her war vote, her campaign strategy(ies.) I don't think she has her ear to the ground, but her backside will soon be. While she started her campaign talking about the Clinton years, she blindsided by the fact people don't want to look back. Next was her experience ("Day 1!") Then she tried to be the "change agent"- imagine that!- but her "experience" makes her the ultimate insider; hence no change. Now she's talking about "solutions." She's playing "pin the tail on the campaign slogan" because she's always been more interested in winning than in standing for something. If this is what you support, you deserve to go right down with the ship and allow the life raft to be used by those with "EXPERIENCED" critical thinking skills. Get back to me in November. You're cooked right now.
Posted by: Joris | Feb 15, 2008 4:10:57 PM
maybe so...Clinton machine has not stopped yet.
Posted by: CARL | Feb 15, 2008 4:16:27 PM
Hillary is correct ones performance beats rhetoric any day, and if anyone wants to be honest Obama's record in the Senate is POOR. So he can say what he wants and make light of what Senator Clinton has achieved but he still has nothing to show to the American public as to what he can or can not do. It is just amazing that some people are so caught up in the "feel good" crap that they are not seeing the bigger picture and acting as if the USA is some banana republic so any smooth talker can fill the shoes of the President.
Posted by: SJ | Feb 15, 2008 4:25:32 PM
Jesse Jackson, a fellow South Carolinian, who also is a good orator. And is a presidential loser. Broke a lot of ground for the disenfranchised. A previous Bill Clinton supporter. Why all the hate, I am only bringing out the obvious. But, from all this intelligent dialogue, show me 1 idea that someone has brought up of substance from Obama?
Posted by: CARL | Feb 15, 2008 4:27:51 PM
Obama's mocking of Hillary in his statement is so striking of his game plan in this race. Obama is betting on the win because Hillary is a woman. He play right into the mold that when fighting with a strong and capable woman, you mock and minimize her. Obama is nothing more then a used car salesman without a car to sell. His slogan of 'changes you can believe in' is nothing more then a focus group pick slogan for his presidential campaign. I urge all voters to research his senate and legislature records....and when you do, you'll see that he has made none, zero, nado, zip the show call 'changes we can belive in'. The salespitch is an empty one and he is betting on the idea that voters are just dumb enough to buy the image and the fascade without checking the facts. The rherorics is so overblown with the guy that it is now insulting to hear him speak...how can someone who voted to allow sex shop to be built next to schools stand up and speak of changes that will change this country and the world. How much courage does it take to vote 'NO' against having sex shop set up next to our childrens' schools. Wake up voters, Obama is nothing more then a used car salesman.
Posted by: San Francisco, California | Feb 15, 2008 4:30:14 PM
Preach to the lost San francisco, so that they to can see. Hussein Obama is all talk and no game. But if you want to sell snack oil he is the man.
Posted by: CARL | Feb 15, 2008 4:34:27 PM



