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Obama Slams McCain in N.M.
February 01, 2008 5:05 PM
ABC News' David Wright, Sunlen Miller and Andy Fies Report: At a raucous town hall meeting on the economy in Albuquerque, N.M., Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama today accused Republican presidential contender Sen. John McCain of towing the Bush Administration line on tax cuts out of political opportunism.
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
“There was a time when some Republicans like John McCain agreed with me,” Obama said, of his calls to roll back Bush’s temporary tax cuts for the richest Americans instead of making those tax cuts permanent.
“There was a time when Senator McCain courageously defied the fiscal madness of massive tax cuts for the wealthy in the midst of a costly war,” Obama said. “That was before he started running for the Republican nomination and fell in line.”
During last night’s CNN debate in Los Angeles, Obama also looked past the Democratic nomination fight to take aim at McCain. At one point, he observed that, “Somewhere along the line, the Straight Talk Express lost some wheels.”
The town hall meeting focused on the package of middle class initiatives Obama has framed as “Reclaiming the American Dream.”
Unlike previous forums, the audience for this one was huge. According to the fire marshal more than 6,000 people were here, including two overflow areas. Obama addressed the overflow crowds using a megaphone.
This being New Mexico, the event also featured a bit of Southwestern flavor. One Native American voter greeted the candidate in a tribal language. Others asked his views on illegal immigration.
“I’m not a big fan of vigilante justice,” Obama said, prompting a burst of applause. “We are a nation of laws AND we are a nation of immigrants. Those two things are not contradictory.”
Obama lavished praise on New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson for his "important work" on the immigration issue. Obama is openly courting Richardson's endorsement.
"We have no plans on receiving an endorsement but I would love to be pleasantly surprised,” Obama said today.
After Albuquerque, Obama heads on to Santa Fe before ending the day in Boise, Idaho as he criss-crosses the nation days before the Feb.5 Super Tuesday multi-state votes.
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I think you mean to say Sen. Obama accused Sen. McCain of TOEING not TOWING the line on taxes.
Posted by: Bearwife | Feb 1, 2008 5:37:20 PM
..and now the morons at Moveon.org have openly backed Obama. If he ever had a chance that's not what he needed. Bad enough getting his immensness "Teddy" on his side earlier. He's done for 2008.
Posted by: vizorsdn | Feb 1, 2008 5:38:03 PM
Grow up Obama...you have nothing but empty promises. No experience. I would trust McCain to keep our country safe over you in a heartbeat. Please Nader or Perot run...anyone please run that can take votes away from this man.
Posted by: philip | Feb 1, 2008 5:39:55 PM
Ted Kennedy backed Obama. That is good enough for me not to vote for him.
Posted by: philip | Feb 1, 2008 5:41:08 PM
McCain is way too corrupt and way too old to be president. Who in their right mind would vote for someone involved in the S&L scandal (Keating 5) or likewise committed adultery and left his wife for someone much younger? With eyes hafl open, anyone could see this arrogant thug coming from 200 miles away.
About 40% of Americans must be real idiots to go along with the McCain thug, just because the media, and elites that control the media, put his ugly, smirky mug up everywhere, oh, and also parade out a list of fellow thugs as if endorsements matter more than record. Call him Juan, as he fits in much better with the lawless immigrants (the ones he wants to grant amnesty too)that cross the border illegally, and break other laws here with impunity once here. What some gullible dullards--and they will sink our nation this time, if they get McCain in.
Posted by: jd | Feb 1, 2008 5:41:36 PM
Politico said the "control group" thought Huckabee won the Republican Debate -- what's so astonishing is that the control group consisted wholly of CALIFORNIA WOMEN -- that's right those independent-minded strong California Women thought Huckbee won -- now this flies in the face of the Media's Conventional notion that Huckabee only appeals to the Evangelicals -- so why isn't the Main-Stream Media covering this??????????
More importantly, today Politico did a story on Women being a key factor in the election -- so, this makes Huckabee's win even more ASTOUNDING & NEWS WORTHY. So, again, why isn't the MSM covering this?
Oh, and by the way -- Huckabee's press secretary has been trying to get him on Hannity's show tonight -- any success with that??????? Hmmmmm [Just in- they've now said Yes for tonight, Feb 1]
How about a debate between Hannity & Huckabee -- since Huckabee's not only running against the Republican Candidates -- but the Media as well? Perhaps this could be held on another "Fair & Balanced" network -- any suggestions??
Also, Mike is only 1% behind Romney in New National Poll!! So HOW DARE the media ignore and suppress him?
Posted by: liz | Feb 1, 2008 5:47:08 PM
McCain says "we'll stay in Iraq if it takes 100 years." At a billion a month? Not gonna happen. Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama will win this election in a landslide never before seen in American politics.
Posted by: eric | Feb 1, 2008 5:49:49 PM
Okay ABC. What is Hillary Clinton saying today? I'm Obama'd out already. I'm not going to vote for him on Tuesday so a little balance in reporting over the weekend would be appreciated.
Posted by: Mary | Feb 1, 2008 5:53:46 PM
All the endorsments are coming out of the closet. Oprah is campaigning. The whole 9 yards. Is is enough for Obama to catch clinton by tuesday?
What a national circus this has turned into.
Posted by: tom | Feb 1, 2008 5:54:16 PM
In all fairness Obama is the only one well positioned to take on McCain. What will Hillary hold against McCain if not on fundamental issues like abortion etc which wont matter in these elections?
War.She voted the same like McCain but changed her mind later
Iran.She voted same way as McCain
So what will she have against McCain?
Posted by: EE | Feb 1, 2008 5:54:29 PM
If a 71 year old Bush clone and another religious freak show are the best Republicans can come up with, why not just concede the election now and save us all the effort. :)
Posted by: eric | Feb 1, 2008 5:56:14 PM
Most comments are full of hate and anger. Relax...we have been dealing with 8 years of the Bush nightmare and i think you have been poisoned a bit. It may take time to get normal again. In the meantime, stop infesting everyone else with your disease and accept the fact that McCain needs to flip flop his positions in order to get the republican vote.
Posted by: Alma | Feb 1, 2008 6:00:05 PM
Robert Marley - If you make 250K then yes, you should probably vote for the Republicans along with the other 1.5% of households in your position. I'm somewhere near the median myself, so repealing Bush's tax cuts is not going to make much difference to me.
Posted by: jock59801 | Feb 1, 2008 6:01:07 PM
McCain is just like Bush, right down to the arrogant smirk, and he will continue to destroy the nation and Constitution, just as surely as Bush has. Just look at his record of corruption, and see how close his corruptions and failures mirror those of Bush.
Posted by: nomas | Feb 1, 2008 6:07:10 PM
I used to be a fan of McCain's. He should have had the nomination 7 years ago. He was the real deal back then. Now he just panders to the conservative base. Just because he is stubborn doesn't mean he is right. He is just like George W. Not willing to listen to anyone.
How in the world do you support an infinite war without any compassion for the soldiers he wants to sacrifice on the alter of ego. Get a grip old man and move out of the way for a new and prosperous America under Obama's leadership.
We have a choice of wanting to be mired in this ugly travesty of governship or move to an America that is respected and illuminates the path for struggling democracies.
Posted by: rkadije | Feb 1, 2008 6:13:14 PM
Clinton vs. Obama = Politcal Machine vs. Grassroots Movement----We all know who eventually wins here. Go Obama!
Posted by: Caty | Feb 1, 2008 6:13:15 PM
To The Powers That Be, Take Care of HOME FIRST,THEN AND ONLY THEN DO WE WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE,I THINK WE GOT THAT INFO WHEN WE WERE KIDS.OK
Posted by: RROMARO | Feb 1, 2008 6:16:59 PM
I like McCain. Crossed party lines to vote in the Republican primary 8 years ago in hopes he would be the nominee, and I would have voted for him for President. I even agree with him on the Surge. But I have to say I don't agree with him to go along with making permanent the Bush tax cut for the rich. No way. So they can correct the economy by giving us working people a few hundred back each Spring? Ridiculous. I'll vote for Obama this time.
Posted by: summitcounty | Feb 1, 2008 6:17:00 PM
someone define "wealthy"..it's not the middle class.
Posted by: p | Feb 1, 2008 6:17:26 PM
Robert Marley,
I am a professional, with multiple degrees and live in a major city on about $35,000 a year, as a senior.
I don't mind devoting more of my income to tax plans that help those less fortunate than I, help improve our schools and make our roads and bridges
safe again. We need leaders that understand mutual responsibility. What are you thinking?
dc
Posted by: deecani | Feb 1, 2008 6:20:26 PM
watch all the hillbillies come out of the woodwork when Obama wins next Tuesday... they will be saying he is a terrorist.... it is so predictable that it is funny. The GOP really have nothing but fear to fuel their party these days... it is so played out.
Posted by: RW | Feb 1, 2008 6:23:23 PM
Do want want troops in Iraq for one hundred years,a war with Iran,another deciple of Bush? Vote John McCain. No more Republicans in office for the next hundred years please. The Only GOP person I trust is Ron Paul.
Posted by: AJ | Feb 1, 2008 6:28:29 PM
Government can be a better facilitator or steward by keeping taxes low for all economic classes and cutting overall government spending in both the military and domestic budgets to reduce overall Federal footprint that is not mission critical or which does not add to value to GDP.
To date, neither political party has cut the size of government footprint or spending. The first priority of the next newly elected government should be to reduce the cost of governing by any means based on sound accounting and management.
The Democrats and Republicans just don't get it.
Posted by: threeriverscrossing | Feb 1, 2008 6:29:12 PM
The bottom line is that CHANGE is coming. Hopefully, it is OBAMA. Stop being immature (speaking here to Mr. "I'm broke" Marley). So, it's ok to keep the same old, same old with nothing getting accomplished. It's okay to have an endless, billions of dollar war. It's ok that our infrastructure is falling apart. So, you might have to actually sacrifice some more in taxes. Everyone is going to have to do some sacrificing in order to rid ourselves of a huge deficit. I make $59000.00 a year with 2 kids. I would pay more if that's what it takes. Part of what's wrong with this country is so many are unwilling to help out someone else other than themselves. I guess it doesn't matter if more people are homeless, we have 40 million plus uninsured, vets are being treated like crap...again, same old same old. Where are peoples spirits, hopefulness? What is wrong with making a sacrifice where you could be part of a change that is SO needed? Suck it up....
Posted by: sue m | Feb 1, 2008 6:46:43 PM
First, isn't it rich? McCain is getting slammed from both sides about his "straight talk" turning crooked. That's what happens when you're dishonest with yourself. Trying to be all things to all people never works. Second, Obama going on the attack is a calculated move to convince the Republicans early on that McCain just might be a force to be reckoned with. In reality, Democrats could not be happier that McCain grows closer and closer to being the GOP's guy. Once he is, they'll mop the floor with him and wring him out so fast that he and all moderate Republicans will stumble around in amazed confusion.
Posted by: Sarah_Jane | Feb 1, 2008 7:05:30 PM
Mr. Marley:
Wait -- you said "among other things, payroll, social security, state taxes, health-care costs and student loans, I AM GETTING PROVERBIALLY RAPED BY THE GOV'T ALREADY!"
Health care costs? Government paid? Student loans? Excuse me?
Posted by: nathalie | Feb 1, 2008 7:06:53 PM
You mean to tell me that the best the Republicans can offer are a 71 year old hawk who "will stay in Iraq 100 years" or a man they call "a great manager" who has spent $35,000,000 of his own money on an unsuccessful campaign??? Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama. We need America back and they will deliver. Pulling for Obama in Texas where Bush will soon be doing the only thing he knows how to do. Clear brush.
Posted by: Don | Feb 1, 2008 7:10:51 PM
All Obama can do is take swipes at everybody else in the race, Democrat & Republican, because he's done nothing himself. What was once a promising candidate is no more. He just keeps alienating more and more people. He'll never get my vote now.
Posted by: glofish | Feb 1, 2008 7:28:54 PM
A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush. I for one have had enough of the republicans. WE NEED CHANGE OUR COUNTRY IS FALLING APART AND THAT CHANGE IS NT MCCAIN!!!!MCCAIN IS TOO OLD AND REPRESENTS OLD WASHINGTON.
ITS TIME FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO TAKE OVER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND MCCAIN WILL DO NOTHING AGAIN BUT PANDER TO THE RICH..OUT WITH ALL THE REPUBLICANS!!! TIME FOR AMERICANS TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!!!
Posted by: Mary | Feb 1, 2008 7:32:30 PM
I love it when the leftist, neo-Marxist democraps talk about the Constitution and how THEY will restore it! For example, I challenge ANYONE in the media to ask Obama or Clinton where the federal government derives power to create a nationalized health care system.
All powers not enumerated in the Constitution are reserved for the States and Citizens.
We need to end this nanny-state mentality. Government's role is to protect private property rights from foreign or domestic threats. Look at the Bill of Rights. These are all government protections of private property. The Founders did not intend for the government to be a surrogate mother by providing employment, food, shelter, health care or any other "social need". Such roles were deferred to the private sector, more specifically, charitable/fraternal organizations.
With regard to all the "Kill the Rich" folks out there, ponder this:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that's what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. 'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar too It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!' 'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill,
they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
Posted by: rickman454 | Feb 1, 2008 7:41:21 PM
Bruce - just curious; you have all the answers...when are you running for office?
Posted by: sue m | Feb 1, 2008 8:22:01 PM
Bruce can't have all the answers, Obama does.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 1, 2008 8:23:57 PM
McCain is now portending to be against pork spending? Unbelievable! McCain played a big role (one of the Keating 5)in trying to cover for the crooks in the savings and loan scandal, which cost the taxpayers more than a trillion dollars to bail these crooks out. With that kind of corruption, going after pork spending looks petty. McCain craves, usurps and abuses power just as bad as does Bush, and would be a total disaster for our nation (as if Bush was not bad enough).
Posted by: Bastanow | Feb 1, 2008 8:25:06 PM
Now this is an attack I like. Good for you, Obama. It's time for the Democrats to take out after the greedy Repubs instead of each other.
Posted by: Two-cats | Feb 1, 2008 8:26:56 PM
rickman454 - You forgot to mention that the reason the richest man was rich is because he had a contract with the bar to provide the beer. And that the total the rich man charged the bar for the beer they drunk was 125 dollars per round. But how could the bar exist selling beer for $80 dollars which they payed $125 for thus losing money? No problem, the children of the people drinking will be expected to pay for the beer.
Posted by: roy | Feb 1, 2008 8:32:28 PM
Oh, I love the line from McCain about securing the US border first.
Uh, he is from a border state. 25 years in office.
The border of his own state is not secure. There is no complete wall.
There's a promise kept.
Whatever.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 1, 2008 8:36:03 PM
OBAMA promises to give all the illegals a drivers license, this will be the joke of the campaign, if he's nominated. Then there will be Resko, and the mideast money that paid for his house. Don't forget how Obama praised Rumsfeld. His lack of leadership, no expeience, poor showing in the Illinois legislature, chemical dependance history, and part time attendance in congress. Obama's dirty laundry is there, but the republican media keeps it quiet to get him as the democratic caidate. This is the only way the republicans can hope to win.
Posted by: paul | Feb 1, 2008 8:50:34 PM
The question that should have been asked of Hillary at last night's debate is this ...
"Ma'am, your husband's presidency was marked by scandals running from the salacious to national security, you've run a campaign based on race coding, and both you and your husband have scant regard for the truth.
"What could you possibly have to say to young people, what could you possibly bring to the table, for those who need to hear a message of honesty and integrity, as personal responsibility is the cornerstone of government accountability?"
Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | Feb 1, 2008 9:17:25 PM
2009 Where Are You? : Excellent post !! You are SO right on----that is why I ditched CNN because of their Pro-Obama stance. Other media websites are not too much better. I believe the underlying reason that the media is so Pro-Obama is because if they start to question or criticise Obama or put him under the microscope as they have done Hillary for so many years, that people will run around screaming, "Prejudice! Prejudice because you-all are attacking a "black" man." That's the only reason I can think of....I mean, they can't be Pro-Obama because he has the experience and leadership, because he doesn't. Ask people from here in Illinois what kind of a record he has. You'll get some honest answers about why he is not qualified. We are not missing him here in Illinois because he sat on the fence on issues---he did not vote "yes" or "no" when the roll call was called for him to take a stance on an issue, whether it was an important issue or not.
Posted by: Get America Back On Track | Feb 1, 2008 9:22:40 PM
2009 Where Are You?, the reason why American companies outsource and/or ship their headquarters off-shore is because many of them cannot compete on a global scale. Why is this? Because our country has the second highest corporate taxes in the industrialized world. Even the neo-socialist Scandinavian countries figured out that high corporate taxes moves capital off-shore. Look it up. Only Japan has higher corporate taxes than we do, and we all know how well THEIR economy grew in the 80's and 90's.
With regards to personal income taxes, a flat tax is a good start. A better idea would be to scrap the IRS for a national consumption tax -- no loopholes. Liberals throughout America could then rest easy knowing that those rich ######## are getting theirs!!!
Liberal definition of rich: Anyone who has more money or property than you.
Posted by: rickman454 | Feb 1, 2008 9:39:55 PM
BO is a sad sack while John has served his country with bravery. BO is about "Where's the Beef?". He has no experience and he has no record. He is an empty bag of wind who voted "present" while a state senator. Arrogant to Hillary, calculating and downright low, he ought to be soundly rejected by all democrats. The best thing John has going for him is for BO to become the party's nominee.
Posted by: benvictor | Feb 1, 2008 9:52:06 PM
obama08! once he wins the nomination, theres no stopping him, sorry repubs, but a 71 yr old guy is not gonna do it, keeping our troops in iraq for 100 years, wasting our blood and treasure will not cut it!
Posted by: jacobs | Feb 1, 2008 9:52:08 PM
I am disappointmented in McCain, even when he wasn't doing so well in the polls I appreciated how he did not change his positions. Now he is changing his mind on issues or at least changing the reason why he voted the way he did in order to appeal to the Repub conservatives. I respected him a lot more a few months ago when he stuck to his own beliefs.
Posted by: Cordero | Feb 1, 2008 9:54:51 PM
The question is "Are you better off now then you were between 1992-2000?" If you are or you're not, vote accordingly.
Do we need another 7 to 8 years like the past 7 to 8 years? Is our country better off? Do we need a visionary with no know how, who must depend on others to take care of American's needs and concerns? Vote with your head and not with your heart. What's best for you and your country? LOC1st
Posted by: Bettie R. Bennett | Feb 1, 2008 10:13:52 PM
RW: I would not take bets on Obama winning the nomination. Do yu want to lose your money? Hillary is leading in California alone plus she will capture NJ, NY, OKLA, PA, on Tuesday and the delegates for Michigan and Florida might be reinstated which will bring her close to what she needs.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Feb 1, 2008 11:12:36 PM
Obama is the great divider. If I see Oprah over the weekend I will toss my cookies.
Posted by: JAS | Feb 1, 2008 11:27:37 PM
I was just watching Obama's wife on CNN. She said they are not going to do the negative stuff. What world does she live in?
Posted by: wenh | Feb 1, 2008 11:37:21 PM
McCain has got NOTHING to offer us except that he touts his captivity by the Vietnamese like Rudy touts his 9-11 involvement. Both have NOTHING to do with the INTELLIGENCE it takes to run and motivate a nation like ours. All the GOP have is military motivation. THAT folks is the key. An intelligent man like Mr. Obama can motivate a nation into recovery. If you want more military involvement in our national lives as well as more WAR involvement, then by all means, vote McCain. If you want this beaten down nation of ours to UNITE and get its act together economically and become a self sustainable nation who DOES NOT LOOK THE OTHER WAY as our nations leadership takes a CR&P on our constitution, and economic futures, then vote Obama.
Posted by: rw | Feb 1, 2008 11:39:12 PM
There is to much that is unknown about Obama. It seems that the more we find out about him the worse it gets. There is to much time until the election and the republicans would uncover the truth and we would be wondering what happened. When you vote based only on "hope" you'll get burned.
Posted by: JAS | Feb 1, 2008 11:49:07 PM
Obama - you will be the downfall of the democratic party. Your record will be front and center and your years in politics has demonstrated, anything but change. In congress, your known as "part time", two years of being a senator with minimal experience, military knowledge is just a thought and the Resko problem will be your final breath. I could go on, but the republicans will be back in the Whitehouse by a landslide. All of your "feel good" talk is a hollow promise, you need experience, knowledge, and proven ability. McCain has the knowledge, the military background and 40 years of real experience. Our only hope to secure the whitehouse is Hillary, the Clintons have proven they can clean up the Bush mess...
Posted by: paul | Feb 2, 2008 12:10:05 AM
Polarization doesn't work. We are all Americans. McCain is a brave man. Obama is eloquent and a fresh new voice. I never understood why people have to snipe at each other on forums like this.
If you ever watch the series Jericho it is all about how people behave after nuclear war. Though much like a soap opera, there are some good points made about the madness of war and human nature.
War's and disagreements are all about one thing: who controls the goods.
So you can start hording gold because America is coming apart at the seems or work on bringing unity, Republican, Independent, Democrat alike.
Posted by: Scipio | Feb 2, 2008 12:11:06 AM
After looking at today's Rasmussen Report and Gallup, the eleven point lead Hillary had last week is now down to about three, Tied in Connecticut, Obama behind by three in California, Five behind in Mass., and these numbers are before Edwards dropped out. Hillary's numbers have continually dropped since New Hampshire, so I don't believe many of the former Edwards supporters will be swinging support over to her side. Beginning to look like Hillary will need all the free rides she can get from Florida and Michigan. But I don't see the DNC bending it's own rules to favor a candidate in decline.
Posted by: GC | Feb 2, 2008 1:09:50 AM
Let's play the game of saying anything to get elected... as if he has any idea of what he is talking about.
Posted by: Daleri | Feb 2, 2008 1:30:24 AM
The shocking thing about Obama is he has all these people backing him and he still can't catch Hillary. How sorry of a candidate is he?
Posted by: C DEPP | Feb 2, 2008 1:57:26 AM
its probably not wise to try and start beating up on a 70 year old man who's had skin cancer and was held prisoner in a tiger cage for a good amount of time....I like Senator Obama as a person, but Senator Clinton would absolutely destroy anyone the republicans could come up in any debate, and she would look polite doing it.....another thing her experience has given her: she has the intelligence and confidence to beat the brains out of any republican one on one....
Posted by: chris | Feb 2, 2008 2:11:53 AM
ron powell....one of the more important questions you must ask yourself as a non-partisan: who will be the best, most effective Commander-In-Chief? I submit to you the hard truth that Senator Clinton has the wherewithal, the resources and the experience to re-energize our international allies and create a rock-solid coalition to work alongside our soldiers and against terrorism, thus significantly decreasing the risk and harm to American soldiers, thus increasing the emotional and financial stability of their families.....our Nation and our men and women in uniform need a competent, effective leader who will take care of them and work diligently and tirelessly to make sure they have the strength and support of those who fight for similar purposes, and a President who will alleviate any fears or apprehension they may have regarding those things out of their control. Senator Hillary Clinton will be that President. I believe 100% that no one else can.
Posted by: chris | Feb 2, 2008 2:21:27 AM
Terry: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Obama turned a long entrenched Chicago Illinois political machine into bi-partisan lawmakers, who signed off on a number of his bills by the time he left the Senate. I don't believe McCain has anything over those Chicago politicians. As far as Kennedy and Kerry not making a difference, that's a statement obviously not founded in fact. Also you might study up on a few bills such as the, "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act", co-sponsored by Senator's John McCain and Barack Obama, or the "Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Climate Change Legislation, co-sponsored by Senators Barack Obama and John McCain. These two Senators may have a few differences, but they have more similarities on legislation.
Posted by: GC | Feb 2, 2008 2:40:10 AM
Obama can accuse other candidates of failing to make wise decisions without worrying about them doing it to him. He has abstained from voting so many times that he does not have a record to worry about, his speeches are full of happy talk with no real substance.Where does he really stand on the issues?
Posted by: BTL musings | Feb 2, 2008 2:46:16 AM
Chris: Let me ask you, since you're so adamant of Hillary's support for our military, and since she sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, why hasn't she issued any legislation at all during her tenure in the Senate, regarding our military; and Barack Obama, who sits on the Veterans Affairs, Homeland Security, and Foreign Relations committee's, has written nine bills supporting our troops and veterans, the last of which was vetoed by Bush because it was attached to the SCHIP bill. Maybe Hillary thinks our troops don't need anything, huh?
Posted by: GC | Feb 2, 2008 2:53:37 AM
Sen. Clinton has also had many endorsement from fellow Senators, Governors, and political figures, but the mainstream media do not report any of them. They are biased and hold a double standard when in comes to Obama. Does anyone also realize that his 2nd highest campaign contributor is Exelon Energy Co. which wants to dump its waste in Yucca Mtn. (Nevada)...that's one of the reasons he lost that state. Also, his minister and spiritual advisor is a friend of Mr. Farakhan (can you say Muslim). Mr. Barack Hussein Obama has a very questionable past.
Posted by: Christine | Feb 2, 2008 2:56:05 AM
I wouldn't vote for Obama.
Posted by: Daleri | Feb 2, 2008 4:49:04 AM
I rest my case!
Posted by: Bywill | Feb 2, 2008 6:39:56 AM
So Obama wants to raise taxes, dismantle the military and increase government bloat? Great. Just Great.
Posted by: Danny Boy | Feb 2, 2008 7:06:57 AM
Obama will never win, he is too liberal period. Anyone who is promoting higher taxes, bringing our military down to the levels of the Clinton Administration, Amnesty, free stuff for the lazy Americans that sit on their couch is not electable. It's a sad day for Republicans when our choice is a liberal. Thank GOD this will be a one term President.
Posted by: Jay McK | Feb 2, 2008 7:21:08 AM
Huckabee: Wants to amend the Constitution reflect his idea of religion. Wants to amend the Constitution on marriage. These are two of what Huchabee has spoken about in his speeches. One problem with what he wants to add to the Constitution, it is the Very First amendment of the first Ten amendments to the Constitution ratified on Dec 15 1791, known as the Bill of Rights: 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...' This is not a suggestion, it is a law written to amend (to put right) the Constitution. The first law makers knew that in the future Politicians like Huckabee and the Conservative Republicans would try to change the Constitution, thus tearing down the entire structural foundation of our United States Of America.
Posted by: Angel | Feb 2, 2008 8:24:07 AM
RON your big scoop is dated December 20th, 2007 yet in light of this "expose" as you see it, the New York times endorsed Hillary as their choice for Democratic nominee on the 25th January 2008. They obviously thought it was a damning piece of writing. You know why it didn't get more coverage? You mix truth with innuendo and all you get is smear. The article contains facts but also alot of speculation.Given the content of the article once you break it down the headline is obviously just to grab your attention Example 1) 3 paragraphs on next wave who received no favours in spite of donations. example 2) Campaign Staff chosen because of first hand knowledge they are good at what they do. ich is exactly why Obama employed a number of former key Clinton personnel when he took his post as a new junior senator. To employ a group of such heavy hitters it was apparent to everyone he was preparing to run for nomination.He said he had no intention remember so who hasn't finished one term as senator before running. Example 3) only 2 names mentioned are identified as having any connection to Hillarys campaign towards the bottom of page 2 that not parties mentioned are cited as having donated to Hillarys campaign and make up part of her supporters. Example 4) Bill gates and co no innuendo attached. Example 5) statement by outsider regarding the Clintons desire for no conflict. Disseminate the information, read more than once and fact check. Has Obamas campaign mentioned this, did Edwards? Also who are going to be big donors to any campaign friends, associates and big business. Do you think all his donors are strangers to Barack? Do you think Illinois Industry haven't donated to Baracks senate or presidential campaigns or pet projects? Do you think any large multinational makes any donation to any political office because they don't hope to gain cred? Have you checked out who donated to build other Presidential libraries, other presidential campaigns. Who supported pet projects by first ladies ? There isn't a politican alive who is untouched by business. Donations and politics is like playing 6 degrees of seperation. Best recent example Obama, Rezko and their intertwining coincidental lives. Money and politics always questionable. Oh to watch a campaign where all candidates are scrutinised equally.
Posted by: Common sense | Feb 2, 2008 8:35:24 AM
Obama is no chance of beating McCain. Obama is the MOST liberal besides Teddy Kennedy. Hillary Clinton is the best choice for change.
Posted by: Dave | Feb 2, 2008 8:46:37 AM
I have been reading many blog pages and have two questions to put to other bloggers.
(1) if your preferred candidate doesn't receive the nomination. Which option would you choose a/ vote for the other nominee at election time b/ consider voting for the other party c/ not voting at all
(2) Have you read any "blog" not article that has caused you to swap your support from one candidate to another ?
Posted by: curious | Feb 2, 2008 8:51:42 AM
This misinformation about "the richest Americans" is disgusting. They don't speak about salaries, the speak in terms meant to anger people. You really have to have a plan that is fair, based on the cost of living in your area. A 2500 sq ft home on a 1/4 acre 20 miles outside of Philadelphia cost 3-4 times as much as the same home 20 miles outside of Little Rock AR. So making 100k for a family of four in the Phil. suburbs wont let you buy this house. While making 100k in the Little Rock subs, will allow you to buy this house and be reasonably financially set. By the way, 100k is not really that much, husband and wife working, making 50 k a year each will get you that. 50k a year can be made by most nurses, mechanics etc, if you have a skill you can make 50k. This is not a white collar only salary. Get over the tax break for the rich stuff and come up with a plan that continues the tax breaks for the hard working people of america, and does not reward those who have no skills or no job.
Posted by: Joe | Feb 2, 2008 9:18:56 AM
Obama comes off very dull in the debates. It almost seems like he's bored. Hillary came off the other night very vibrant and excited about leading America. My vote is will Hillary.
Posted by: Dave | Feb 2, 2008 10:01:56 AM
McCain has a plan for a sustained war in the Mid-East and no fiscal plan for the nation. McCain has has-beens for supporters that try to tout their past fantasy lives. McCain rides on his past military service that no longer fits the challenges of this era. He knows how to get things done the old way but hasn’t a clue or cognitive ability to manage a world economy or the diplomacy for brokering peace. He supports the surge in Iraq that delays or holds off its collapse because of his failed foreign policy ideology that led to the war in the first place. But he has not changed that ideology. We need a nominee that listens and can adjust the game plan to achieve long term goals for this nation. Call that flip flopping if you must. But having blinders on and having a determination to stick with bad foreign policy and bad economics will bring great harm to our nation. Plus, this nation cannot waste time to educate Huckabee on national and international affairs. His supporters need to get some fact checks on his ideas and policies from respectable economist and diplomats that know the reality of the world we live in. To think one can lead this country by the faith in the seat of your pants is absurd
Posted by: lorax_mbell | Feb 2, 2008 1:46:54 PM
Ron Paul is the only Republican I trust. He's the only TRUE conservative in there. He's willing to do what is economically necessary to stop our govt spending (cutting spending by A LOT) . But don't take my word for it. Read up on him. You'll find out the reason why he's raising a LOT more money than the other GOP candidates.
Posted by: brian | Feb 2, 2008 7:22:26 PM
GO ROMNEY!! Did everyone hear Ann Coulter's talk about Romney?! She was sooo right? Why are we not voting for best option since Reagan? By the way, Romney won Maine tonight, and is not far behind Democrat...I mean "Republican" John McCain.
Posted by: Josephine | Feb 2, 2008 10:50:01 PM
so ..let's recap Iraq -Hilary votes to give the nit wit Bush the military authoritiy to invade Iraq-the first pre-emptive invasion in our history without any UN support from our major allies because she thought like all the others pols-that the war would be a cake walk which it was because Saddaam had no weapons of mass destructions let alone a fighter jet to put in the air. Mission Accomplished-we are greeted as liberators..Iraqi Oil revenues will flow and pay for everything.. yada yada yada...The entire neo con fairly tale adventure was always part of their grand plan to return to Iraq since bush 1 did the right thing-he built a true coalition and got out at the right time to minimize the loss of life and treasure. but the neo cons never forgave him for not going to bagdad.. everyone knew this .. yet no politician wanted to be on the wrong side of Iraq again after the first gulf war so they all they caved in to the pressure of the time and sent 4,000 of our finest to their death with thousands maimed for life and with no help from our major allies .. this is what she voted for .. she didn't even read the NIE reports before she voted.. how callous to think that she would put the lives of our finest who risk their lives every minute of the day on the front lines to have a president who invested no real time or effort before casting a yes vote that she will no doubt regret for the rest of her life. Gen Powell once said, If you broke it, you bought it.. the Pottern Barn Theory .. now look at us.. this one vote is all that mattered and we are stuck there for god only knows how long... she is no better than GW herself .. what will be the final death count be when all is said and done.. a nation can only imagine.. obama is the only one with any credibility to get us out of this war and bring the troops home to reset our military strategy and go find the man who is responsible for changing the world on 9-11 and capture Bin Laden..
Posted by: bob | Feb 3, 2008 2:14:31 AM
By the time November rolls around, the Dems are going to have a tough time with their surrender Iraq policy. It will be like Gen. Patton said when he received orders not to take Salerno in WWII: "Ask him if he wants me to give it back". When the victory is won, how does a whole party explain why they wanted to surrender?
Posted by: fowlowl | Feb 3, 2008 3:30:18 AM
I will still support Ron Paul over all your so called Candidates of Change. He is the only one talking about real change in foreign policy, real change in governement spending. The others have been given their talking points but have failed miserably on their records. Every other candidate flip-flops to give the voter what they want to hear. Grow up, get informed please.
Posted by: judarama | Feb 3, 2008 9:30:05 AM
“We are a nation of laws AND we are a nation of immigrants. He is so contradictory here....because anyone who comes across the border illegally did not follow the immigration laws but,



