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Obama: McCain 'Traded Principles for his Party’s Nomination'
February 13, 2008 5:15 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: Sen. Barack Obama told a crowd in Waukesha, Wisconsin today that the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain "traded principles for his party’s nomination."
Obama argued McCain has acted like President George W. Bush on the economy and on the Iraq war.
"George Bush may not be on the ballot this fall, but his tax cut and his economic policies are… that is a debate that I'm happy to have, because the American people know that Bush's policies have not worked for ordinary Americans," Obama said.
Watch it HERE.
Obama said he was surprised by McCain’s recent criticism of his economic policy – direct criticisms McCain started in the last few days.
“Economics is not his strong suit,” Obama said with a smile, “he said ‘I don’t understand economics very well’, and after he said that, it shows.”
Obama told the audience that he believes McCain’s economic policies would be “more of the same” of Bush tax policies – and argued McCain’s position has undergone a transformation since running for president.
“John McCain criticized (Bush tax cuts) as irresponsible back when he wasn't running for president of the U.S.A. because he understood that we could not keep on with tax cuts for the wealthy at a time of war, that it would be irresponsible," he said.
"That we would have tax cuts when military families are shouldering this burden and so many of the benefits of these tax cuts, and I'm quoting here, so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate. Somewhere along the line, he traded those principles for his party's nomination and now he's for those tax cuts.”
Obama also added a new criticism of McCain, slipping McCain’s name into his classic stump speech line on healthcare.
"Senator Clinton has a good health care plan, I’ve got a good health care plan, John McCain doesn’t have such a good health care plan,” Obama said, but was short on specifics of what he doesn't agree with.
Obama’s criticism of McCain has been slowing building since both won the South Carolina primary. McCain has also been going after Obama directly by name in recent days.
Obama says he is taking McCain’s verbal attacks as a precursor of the general election.
“I thought it was flattering – it’s clear he knows who his opponent is going to be,” Obama said.
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Hate to say it but, he's right. McCain can't counter Obama. Hilliary yes, with her unlikeables but Obama, no. McCain's experience is undercutted by his support for the two current wars, plus Iran. His knowledge of the economy is laughable, and since campaign fiance passed, he has shown little more to offer America than more sacrifice, and more war. I don't think the majority of Americans can get behind the banner of more death and more debt. Even Hilliary looks more reasonable by comparison. As is stands today, Obama comes across as the most "likeable" and "reasonable" alternative; next to Hilliary and McCain. I much rather have his campaign that Hilliary's or John's right now. That's for sure.
Posted by: cba | Feb 13, 2008 5:49:30 PM
Sen. Obama is a co-sponsor of the Fair Pay Act, which would provide employees a cause of action if they were not paid equal pay for "equivalent work" in the private sector. Our government would decide what work was equivalent (truck driver/secretary, so forth), and thus set compensation levels throught the country. This law would serve as a considerable dislocation in the labor market, and constitute a massive intrusion by the federal bureaucracy into private decision making.
If economics is Obama's strong suit, he should fold now.
Posted by: weffiewonj | Feb 13, 2008 5:57:31 PM
When is this man going to ever say exactly what his policies are and what exactly is he going to do if he gets to be President. He always drops short on offering anything, how in heavens name can anyone vote for him if they have no idea what he is brining to the table.
Posted by: SJ | Feb 13, 2008 6:00:38 PM
Obama's criticism is two-dimensional...and an age-old, tried-and-true (oh MY...that's not consistent with CHANGE...although Hitler promised "change" too...and delivered, unfortunately...).
McCain and his policies ARE NOT - repeat, are NOT - those of Bush's. The only commonality is that they are both Republicans...and both half-Republi/Democans.
It would be as cheap a shot as to criticize Obama...were he to win...to claim that he AS PRESIDENT is ony perpetuating Bush's policies, because he is also president.
Posted by: Ed Wallis | Feb 13, 2008 6:08:31 PM
McCain is a fear monger just like Bush. People are tired of hate. McCain is a 'hater' and a small thinker like Bush, who will continue to drive people/nations apart. Some people in this world need to demonize others in order to feel good about themselves (i.e., reference 'axis of evil' - and then murder 1M+ innocent Iraqis and then call yourself a man of God).
Posted by: cb | Feb 13, 2008 6:20:52 PM
"More of the same, McCain". That's enough to have him come in second. Obama=optimism
Posted by: Tom Canavan | Feb 13, 2008 6:27:55 PM
As a moderate, I have always been a McCain fan. But his comments about staying in Iraq for 100 years is insane. Do the math: $265 million per day X 365 days per year X 100 years. Obama or Clinton will make mincemeat pie out of dear old John on this and a host of other issues where he wants to be "Bush" McCain and maintain the status quo.
Posted by: Frank | Feb 13, 2008 6:29:50 PM
All the way Obama, great speach, exactly right about McCain.
I would have considered voting for McCain back when he had a backbone, but his sellout to Bush has been quite disturbing, and shallow.
Posted by: Berkeley Democrat | Feb 13, 2008 6:32:34 PM
I keep hearing the knock on Obama that he is not specific enough about the issues and his policies in his talks. He is very specific about all of his policies regarding, health care, homeland security energy,environment,immigration, faith and all of the prudent topics on his website. It would be redundant to continue to go over the same things in his stump speeches. Obama's greatest assets are his leadership qualities and his ability to organize and motivate people to take action. His campaign is a great demonstration of that. He is exactly what the United States need. We haven't had a real leader in a long time. Probably since JFK.
Posted by: Lee King | Feb 13, 2008 6:51:40 PM
How can Obama lead us out of Iraq safely when he has NEVER been there? I hope someone asks him that in the debate.
Posted by: Need to Know | Feb 13, 2008 6:56:56 PM
Who understands the economy? Check out the candidates spending proposal projections!
$286.999 BILLION
Projected annual spending for Obama’s proposals
$218 BILLION
Projected annual spending for Clinton’s proposals
$7 BILLION
Projected annual spending for McCain’s proposals
$54 BILLION
Projected annual spending for Huckabee’s proposals
Posted by: Pat | Feb 13, 2008 7:01:50 PM
Senator Obama's energy policy plan calls for a bigger push for nuclear power which I strongly disagree with largely because the nuclear energy industry has not adequately developed methods to dispose of nuclear waste in a way that would not be completely safe or at risk to the environment and public with a longer view of a maturing industry.
In the longer view of more nuclear waste disposal being produced, the nuclear energy industry has always positioned disposal with a rosy and forward-looking statements without costs estimates and technological developments to back up their claims of future environmental and human safety.
More future production of nuclear waste would incur more cost to the taxpayer through government oversight through DOE.
I would encourage all to re-examine Senator Obama's energy plan with respect to nuclear energy for America for the obvious long term environmental risks and long term cost of disposal.
It would be wise to check all the candidate's position on nuclear energy and disposal of hazardous waste policies.
Posted by: threeriverscrossing | Feb 13, 2008 7:02:45 PM
Obama is a Socialist. Not a Communist, a Socialist. A Communist pushes his agenda onto the people whether they like it or not. A Socialist gets you on the hook with tasty morsels. Either way, you become a victim of the Communist Manifesto. Read Karl Marx and his Manifesto, it is about 80% complete. I believe many people have been duped into supporting communism and don't even realize it.
I like Obama's speeches, he is definitely a better person than Hillary and McCain put together. I'm sure many would agree. I will not be voting for him though, voting for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.
I wonder if Obama would be so fair as to ask his supporters who once supported another candidate to vote according to their principles? I mean, if they originally supported someone else based soley on principle, then changed because they were convinced their original pick was "unelectable", wouldn't they have traded their principles to vote for a "winner"?
Posted by: roland | Feb 13, 2008 7:02:46 PM
JFK A REAL LEADER? WHERE DID HE LEAD THE U.S.? BESIDE DIFFERENT TIME AND ERA...MOSTLY THE WHITE MALE WHERE THE REGISTERED VOTERS, WOMAN HAD NO VOTING RIGHTS UNTIL THE 70'S...WHERE DID JFK LEAD US? BAY OF PIGS, THE SOVIET EMBARRASSING THE U.S. WITH THE U2 PILOT BEING SHOT DOWN, INVOLVEMENT IN VIETNAM AND ETC ETC ETC...JUST LOOK AT HIS BROTHERS TEDDY AND EDWARD KENNEDY THEY ARE NOTHING BUT A DRUNK....
Posted by: MARINE4EVER | Feb 13, 2008 7:06:10 PM
So much for the politics of hope and staying positive...
Posted by: Millie | Feb 13, 2008 7:08:23 PM
Looks like its on. I thought they'd give it a little time, but its on.
cba - I agree. Obama has the upper hand right now. There's a lot of time obviously, and dynamics which switch back and forth at least a couple times. But if these two are trying talking points on for size, it sure seems like Obama's fit better at the moment.
Regarding Clinton supporters who criticize Obama for abandoning hope - had he not responded to McCain's talking points, wouldn't you also have criticized that? And besides, there is a world of difference is the talking points Obama and McCain have used against one another, and the type of stuff the Clintons do. Those who don't see that perhaps never will. Many of us do see the difference, however.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 13, 2008 7:17:35 PM
cb, don't quote george soros #s. It's funny how those such as you develop a conscience about the iraqi people all of the sudden, but seemed to be glaringly silent during what saddam did to them...
Obama says he would bomb pakistan. That's optimism if I've ever heard it.
Posted by: john h | Feb 13, 2008 7:23:54 PM
I have seen people have their heads pulled out of their rears and complain that the scent of blooming flowers is overwhelming. What do you think happens next?
Posted by: roland | Feb 13, 2008 7:34:11 PM
McCain has basically used his POW status, apparently highly regarded by those who never quite understood what a debacle the Vietnam war was for this country, to slurp at the public trough for the rest of his life. POliticians don't do anything constructive - at best they keep out of the way, so that intelligent and creative people can do things. Anyone who supports the Iraq war is both immoral and deeply anti-American. This nation was not founded to murderously meddle in others' affairs - just the opposite. McCain's a bum. Sadly, it seems that I never have the option of voting for someone I really would like to be in office, but only for a lesser bum of a pack of bums. Why, I wonder, do we never have intelligent candidates with strong educational backgrounds who might even have a chance of understanding science, technology, economics, and other important areas? Instead, it's always dopes and bums.
Posted by: bob | Feb 13, 2008 7:42:23 PM
So much for bringing people together! Obama is not ready, and he reveals that by copying Hillary's plans: Gulf Coast Recovery, Energy, Education, etc., and he lies on the stump that his health insurance plan covers everyone. We need someone who is educated about the issues, and he is not it.
Geo
Posted by: georgia | Feb 13, 2008 7:46:13 PM
If Obama is the Democatic nominee, McCain looks better and better. He has reached across the aisle, and he is a moderate. We need someone with EXPERIENCE!
Geo
Posted by: georgia | Feb 13, 2008 7:49:38 PM
Wow, how can McCain submit a budget for his economic plan of $7 billion and Bush just put forth his annual budget projection in the Trillions. Sounds like the economy would fall completely flat on McCain's watch, our troops will be without the proper gear and equipment they will need to continue with this senseless war that we are in.
Trust me McCain has no resolutions to the mess that Bush has created. And his budget projection speaks of his inadequacies to run the country. He also missed over 50% of the Senate votes (something like 255) over the past year that decided policies that effect us as citizens.
I don't trust Obama, the verdict is still out on this one. Good speaker but "talk is cheap, it's takes money to buy good whiskey". He has no previous record to stand on as far as accomplishments go. He missed 37% of Senate votes that involved policies that effect us as citizens.
Huckabee is too religious (so he thinks), we don't need anymore of the Christian right in there. Look at the mess we're in now.
It would appear to me that they only hope would be that an Independent steps forward and makes a run for the White House that has a record to stand on so we know exactly what the person is about.
If not, I think that Hillary Clinton is the only person that can really get the job done. She is a very intelligent candidate and a record of success that is evident. At least there was peace times and a good economy the last time a Clinton resided in the White House. It took a Clinton to clean up the last Bush mess, I'm thinking that it will take a Clinton again to clean-up the bigger mess we're in now. She has been present to vote for more policies than either McCain or Obama, she missed 24% of the votes. We need a President that has shown more dedication to the needs of the American people. Hillary is the best choice for who is available at this time, perhaps at the convention the Democrats will draft Al Gore as the nominee, if not Clinton is the best available choice.
Posted by: chickychickyboomboom | Feb 13, 2008 7:50:33 PM
Because Obama is too intelligent to lose focus and look beyond the Democratic nomination, his strategy is LESS about insane McCain, and more about making the Clintons THIRD TERM bid seem irrelevant to Democratic voters.
American short attention span makes it a waste of time to begin a General Election bid at this early a date.
The aim is to make Hilary Clinton appear irrelevant; although Barack does not need to do anything to make Hilary just go away from voters attention.
Posted by: New Yorker | Feb 13, 2008 7:54:07 PM
Is it really wise to place "smack" and "Obama" in the same headline. Next McCain will be telling us Obama fried some brain cells when he was using drugs in his youth.
Posted by: Joe | Feb 13, 2008 7:56:00 PM
I can tell Hillary's done from here in California; you don't even have to stick the fork in.
Posted by: Randle Bate | Feb 13, 2008 7:56:21 PM
Did McCain need a deal with a fundraiser to buy a home? Obama ever heard of a bank? If you cannot afford a home you just don't buy it. Basic economics there Obama. Or is Michelle in control of the calculator at Obama's house?
Posted by: Joe | Feb 13, 2008 7:58:48 PM
Obama took shots at Clinton for voting for a tax break for corporations that make profits overseas. He is WRONG. Without bringing jobs overseas, US companies will collapse which leads to the collapse of the entire US economy. We have to stay competitive with other companies around the world. No one in the world would want to buy a $5 spoon which is made in US, while it costs a few cents if made in China. We are selling our products worldwide, not in US only. US companies can not survive by just selling to Americans. Out sourcing is a must. But, providing tax cut for the companies, it will help them to have extra money to hire people to do researches, find the new technologies and create new jobs for people in US. It is Hillary’s plan. Rolling back tax cut for corporations is a big mistake.
Posted by: ironroof | Feb 13, 2008 8:12:15 PM
weffiewonj: You obviously are speaking of Senate Bill S-1087, the Amendment to the Fair Labor Standards Act. You need to log in to the GPO and read the Amendment. What you're saying couldn't be farther from the truth. The bill is designed to provide equal pay and prohibit discrimination for similar but not dissimilar work based on race, sex, or national origin, such has been happening for decades, especially where women are highly qualified and are given the job but at less pay than a man would be paid. I give Barack kudos for signing on to this bill. Perhaps you're one of those who would like to hire Hillary to be President,but only pay her $300,000 a year, not the $400,000 legal salary.
Posted by: GC | Feb 13, 2008 8:27:52 PM
Obama showed his true colors as a dispicable low life when he insulted Mitt Romney after he (Romney) bowed out of the GOP contest gracefully.
Obama gets a pleasure out of kicking people when they are down, and this is not what leaders in other countries are going to want to see in the new U.S. leader.
Also, Obama simply will never give specifics about anything because he has none - remember - he voted "present" some 190+ times meaning he wasn't willing to take a stance on the bills up for vote. Do we even know if this guy is literate?
Posted by: Jim | Feb 13, 2008 8:35:10 PM
Why does nobody question Barack Obama's rhetoric. I get sick of the media's love affair with him and it will be a sad day if Americans elect a President who has no record of accomplishment...and only a record of politically motivated rhetoric.
Posted by: ABG | Feb 13, 2008 8:38:41 PM
Obama has the cult following for now and people willing to drink the KoolAid.
If he wins the Democratic nomination, the hip walk, the rhetoric of messianic proportion, will be reduced to once sentence stutters as he has to explain himself, not to the MoveOn.org wing of his adoring public, but to the general public of centrists and less educated workers. He is McGovern and Carter all wrapped up in a MSM package delivered for your Valentine's Day. However, while VD occurs once a year, it remains in your heart forever.
Posted by: KRG | Feb 13, 2008 8:44:25 PM
Pat: Why didn't you continue with the rest of your little table. You for got the $150 billion in annual savings after Ron Paul eliminated most of the government . It's at the bottom of the table you quoted from the Ron Paul website. What you might check into is the projected annual saving by passing Barack Obama's Senate bill S-1181, titled Shareholder Vote on Executive Compensation Act. This bill has now been read twice and is currently in the Committee of Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs. It currently has over 90%support by Democrats, but opposed by 70% Republicans. It has been estimated passage of this bill will return over $500 billion to the U.S. Economy. Go to www.thomas.loc.gov and read it. This is one of the major reasons the Republicans don't want Senator Obama in the Presidency. They know if he wins, this bill wins.
Posted by: GC | Feb 13, 2008 8:51:38 PM
It was shocking to me to be forced to vote Democrat in 2006 and once again I'm forced to abandon the Republicans, John McCain is no better than Bush and probably worse.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | Feb 13, 2008 9:10:43 PM
Wow, its easy to understand how Bush won 2 elections (actually he lost but that's another story) when you read some of the things people have written here. I think anyone that voted for Bush in the last 2 elections needs to sit this one out for the sake of the country because they have showed such a lack of common sense. We need a fresh start and I think Obama is the one to do it. Obama in 2008!!!
Posted by: Mike | Feb 13, 2008 9:14:42 PM
GC | Feb 13, 2008 8:51:38 PM Posted the following:
What you might check into is the projected annual saving by passing Barack Obama's Senate bill S-1181, titled Shareholder Vote on Executive Compensation Act. This bill has now been read twice and is currently in the Committee of Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs. It currently has over 90%support by Democrats, but opposed by 70% Republicans. It has been estimated passage of this bill will return over $500 billion to the U.S. Economy. Go to www.thomas.loc.gov and read it. This is one of the major reasons the Republicans don't want Senator Obama in the Presidency. They know if he wins, this bill wins.
The most important economic policy decision will be who will END the wars and who will sell-out to the war profittering anarchists who don't give a rat's @s( about anyone but themselves.
McCain: 4 more wars
shrillary: The right-wing conspirarist's made me do it
Obama: Let's END this with the minimum amount of bloodshed...BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE WE ARE OUT.
VOTE CHANGE
and SEE: LOOSE CHANGE the DOCUMENTARY REAL PATRIOTS WATCH
Then take ONE DAY out of your life to HONOR ALL THE DEAD...and see the truth for yourself.
WACO
OKLAHOMA- 1996 IIRIR & AEDP acts as well as 1996 amalgamation of media
911- The 'patriot' act- PASSED WITHOUT EVEN BEING READ
THE REAL PATRIOT QUESTION'S GOVERNMENT TO PREVENT THE GOVERNMENT FROM ABUSE
THE REAL PATRIOT DOES NOT FALL IN LINE CHANTING PATRIOTIC SLOGANS WHILE THE INNOCENT DIE
IT ISN'T ABOUT 'the economy stupid'
IT IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE ABOUT HUMAN LIFE AND AN ECONOMY THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE RATHER THAN PEOPLE BEING MADE SERVANTS OF THE ECONOMY:
VOTE CHANGE
Posted by: Liam Brent Kelly | Feb 13, 2008 9:17:41 PM
Nice picture of Barack and McCain scowling at lint floating in the air. some one please pinch McCain to see if he is still breathing.
Go Obama!
Posted by: PollCat | Feb 13, 2008 9:19:06 PM
A couple of things in which Oprahma excels: Ctiticizing ad naseum, Acting holier than thou, and slicing the baloney.
Posted by: TheRockofAges | Feb 13, 2008 9:24:13 PM
Look at the picture ABC ran of McCain - that is a clue to what is to come as the media turns it's Racketeering Election Fraud attention and attacks from Hillary to McCain.
Posted by: Bill | Feb 13, 2008 9:24:22 PM
You talked today about Hillary going "negative" on Obama calling for debates in WI but you never mentioned Obama's mailer that falsely says Hillary called NAFTA a "boon". Why is that?
Posted by: Eric | Feb 13, 2008 9:25:04 PM
ABG: That's a nice little link you provided. Like so many others you find a blog that appears to be derogatory, and you stop there and decide to use it derogatorily. Why didn't you follow through and investigate what happened after Whirlpool bought Maytag. Try the article in USA Today, 5-10-2006 entitled "Whirlpool to cut 4500 jobs, close plants" http://www.USAtoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/2006/-05-10-whirlpool_x.htm If you had you would have found there was little Senator Obama could do as a state legislator, but once he became a U.S.Senator, he took up the fight for the displaced workers in Iowa and Illinois.
Posted by: GC | Feb 13, 2008 9:27:22 PM
I just wish there was a candidate I could feel good about voting for. I can't imagine Obama, Mccain, Hillary and definitely not Huckabee in the race. Right when I was starting to feel good about a candidate Mitt Romney had to leave the race. What a depressing election cycle!
Posted by: hopeful | Feb 13, 2008 9:31:10 PM
McCain has stood on principle and against partisanship for his entire career. Can Obama say the same? He's not once stood up to the Democratic party. He's been waiting in the wings for the Democratic nomination since the establishment tabbed him as the speaker at the last DNC. Waited, and not much else.
When he could have been leading, he chose to follow. He's watched in silence as the Democratic congress has squandered it's mandate to end the Iraq war. Can you trust him now to bring the troops home? The Democrats have been playing a game with the American people. They promised an end to the war without ever acknowledging the tactical realities that are keeping us in Iraq (and may keep a small troop presence in Iraq for as long as we've been in places like South Korea). Obama has been only too happy to play along in this abuse of his voters' trust.
McCain has stuck by his principles under enormous pressure from the far-right wing of the Republican party. Which shouldn't come as a surprise coming from a man who once endured 5 and a half years of torture in defense of his principles. McCain has not wavered on his condemnation of torture, his opposition to Guantanamo bay, his support for rational and fair immigration reform, and his commitment to cutting spending. When has Obama demonstrated that he has any principles in the first place, other than his arrogant sense of entitlement to the presidency of the United States?
Posted by: Honestly | Feb 13, 2008 9:31:11 PM
The left biased network marches on. ABC thinks that an Obama slam of McCain is a big story and provides the most non flattering pix of McCain to add insult. Amazing.
Posted by: Tom Daley | Feb 13, 2008 9:36:56 PM
McCain is a War-Monger, and i still want to know why him and Hillary travel around together?
Posted by: Demo Rules | Feb 13, 2008 9:41:33 PM
McCain does not have a clue!!!!He is a war monger who only wants policies for his rich buddies who import slave labor from the south. Dump the republicans and their democratic look alike---Clinton. It is time for the people to run America not Washinton insiders. Obama now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rockychance | Feb 13, 2008 9:44:31 PM
McCain is yesterday----no he is so old he is last century!!!!!!!!!!!America comes of age with the new age of Obama.
Posted by: rockychance | Feb 13, 2008 9:47:36 PM
Liam Brent Kelly: I could not agree more about the need to end the needless bloodshed and bring our troops home from a wrong war. But to rebut your statement "IT ISN'T ABOUT THE ECONOMY, stupid." I don't believe I'm being "stupid" in supporting Barack Obama's effort's to end the voracious profit taking by corporations benefiting from this unjust and illegal war. You might try to use the new website www.USAspending.gov, thanks to another piece of legislation by Barack Obama, and see just how many billions of dollars have been awarded to corporations involved in defense. After finding those corporations, go to their individual websites and look at their financials. While you're at it, take those same industries, many of which are based in New York, then go to www.fec.gov and look up campaign donations by those same industries. You won't find them in Obama's column, but the campaign of another Senator, who just happens to be from New York.
Posted by: GC | Feb 13, 2008 9:49:02 PM
everybody keeps saying mccain is some hero, he divorced his wife who had a black baby why she thought him dead. he then married a rich women with political connections. some hero,he had spoke out against the bush tax cuts now he is all for them just because he wants to be pres. and get a chance to wage war again. he served in a failed war now he wants to run a failed war.
Posted by: frank | Feb 13, 2008 10:10:06 PM
McCain's top advisor(McKinnon) said he would step down if Obama became the Demo. Nominee! Hillary has allready lost her 2 top Campaign Managers! Do you see this all you Delegates/Super Delgates.The American people have spoken we want Change.Obama has won what, 23 out of 29 states? The Old Politics is over!Obama gives me Hope, and I know he can bring Change.
Posted by: Demo Rules | Feb 13, 2008 10:13:43 PM
I feel sometimes im at the Derby. We all have a horse in this race. They all look good. With a few more races to go. Those Texas four year olds are strong along with those Ohio Trotters. This upcoming Wisconsin race, I got two bucks on Rocky Chance.
Need 2 Know
Berkeley D
King Lee
Chicky Chic
New Yorker
Patriot
Hopeful
Poll Cat
Demo Rules
Rocky Chance
Posted by: PollCat | Feb 13, 2008 10:16:16 PM
I invite you to visit both Hillary and Obama websites to view their economic plan. Hillary's plan is way, way better than Obama's plan. Obama's plan is very general. And, we do not know if it is feasible. His inexperience shows here. Hillary's plan can be used in a very short period of time because it is specific and focus. Vote Hillary!!
Posted by: Peter | Feb 13, 2008 10:16:18 PM
McCain, move over for the new generation
The polls on RealPolitics.com show Obama beats McCain. Check it out.
Posted by: Murry | Feb 13, 2008 10:18:25 PM
Obama is new alright. His new ideas include; tax the rich, spend like a drunken sailor and surrender! Sounds like Jimmy Carter, but with more energy.
Posted by: Pam | Feb 13, 2008 10:22:16 PM
This is the most absurd series of posts I have ever read. Aside from a few people who have apparently held their gut in check long enough to comment intelligently, the commentators here apparently represent the worst in America. The hateful, the bigoted, the irrational, the ignorant and the outright insane have come together in a perfect alignment of the stars. I read all the posts with a morbid fascination, and in some small way I feel as though I understand America a little better now. And many of you, and you know who you are, ought to be ashamed to call yourselves Americans. I can't wait for change, and even though I also can't wait until your voices are silenced by the inevitable march of time, I love you all and hope your lives are better when Barack Obama is President of the United States. For many of us, we are certain that our lives will be better because we have been inspired to claim the power within us to make things better ourselves. All the other candidates say they're going to bring about change for you, with their wealth of experience and all on their own, and you, even you, know it's not true. I believe in myself, and I don't blame others for my problems, and I'm going to work to make this great country a better place, to make the world a better place, and to make you, however loved, irrelevant.
On the topic of whether or not McCain has abandoned certain principles, how else do you explain his change of heart on extending the tax cuts? Tax cuts that were not only judged unwise by McCain and many others, but have proven to be bad policy. We sink toward recession, job growth and wage growth are stagnant, our cost-of-living is up, our imports are up and our exports are down, our dollar is weak, our deficits are growing, and our credit is crunched. Great policy! Let’s give it another go. McCain is done.
Posted by: Anthony. | Feb 13, 2008 10:23:24 PM
Obama is the best elect. You does not have to go to Iraq to war in order to end the war. The only thing it take is strategy. Obama is very intelligent. I know that Obama can win the electoin if Mccain is his running mate. Don't get me wrong Mccain has sdtrategy, but Obama is the best. Iit back and I watch his campaign speeches. He know what to say. He has handled himself well when Hillary is criticizing him. Hillary is always saying negative things about Obama. They are other presidential canditates who has stones in thier presidential nominee. There is no one perfect on this earth. We need to concentrate on this country. Who can get this country out of this turmiol? Obama is the best canidate.Yes we can. Go Obama.
Posted by: Wanda | Feb 13, 2008 10:24:51 PM
Obama is the best elect. You does not have to go to Iraq to war in order to end the war. The only thing it take is strategy. Obama is very intelligent. I know that Obama can win the electoin if Mccain is his running mate. Don't get me wrong Mccain has sdtrategy, but Obama is the best. Iit back and I watch his campaign speeches. He know what to say. He has handled himself well when Hillary is criticizing him. Hillary is always saying negative things about Obama. They are other presidential canditates who has stones in thier presidential nominee. There is no one perfect on this earth. We need to concentrate on this country. Who can get this country out of this turmiol? Obama is the best canidate.Yes we can. Go Obama.
Posted by: Wanda | Feb 13, 2008 10:24:57 PM
If Obama is the nominee, I cannot wait for him to bring us all together. Judging by the majority of these blogs, however, he has an insurmountable lot of work to do. If McCain wins, we can all go back to being indifferent. If Hillary wins, we can expect a REAL CHANGE for the things that matter most.
Geo
Posted by: georgia | Feb 13, 2008 10:51:43 PM
McCain's top advisor(McKinnon) said he would step down if Obama became the Demo. Nominee! Hillary has allready lost her 2 top Campaign Managers! Do you see this all you Delegates/Super Delgates.The American people have spoken we want Change.Obama has won what, 23 out of 29 states? The Old Politics is over!Obama gives me Hope, and I know he can bring Change
Posted by: Demo Rules | Feb 13, 2008 10:54:07 PM
Excuse me, but JFK asked what YOU could do for America. Obama ask's what you want out of America, and I'll give it to you.
Classic Democrat, just a fresh ace.
Posted by: Denny | Feb 13, 2008 11:02:01 PM
SJ - Can't agree with you more. Well, as shallow as it is, people do like to buy into words from an orator such is the case for Obama. But anyway, this whole election thing is starting to look so "orchestrated" - so old and so sickening esp. the media's role in downplaying Hillary's image and boosting Obama's since Day 1. Whatever Hillary does, it’s not good enough or an act of "desperation." There is no neutrality in the news for people to make up their own minds anymore. Media's duty is no longer to inform and entertain but to DICTATE. It’s a sad pathetic world in which I am ashamed to be a part of. But kudos to Hillary still – it’s a tough fight, especially when it seems like the whole world is against you, but it is a good fight to the end nonetheless. Don't give up Hillary! You are still the best and I do hope and pray (with all of my heart) that you clinch yourself the much-deserved seat in this election! The one you have been tirelessly fighting for. Don't you care what others have to say, Hillary All The Way!
Posted by: Oodle | Feb 13, 2008 11:21:27 PM
If Hillary is going to run the White House the way she is running her campaign... well, I am happy then she has already failled to be there on day one.
I am impressed by Obama's performance, endurance and ability to manage his campaign. He is already well beyond the most wild expectations for this time of the campaign. He delivers more than expected. And what impress me more is that he over-achieves goals with in such a gracefull ways that makes one feel so safe!!!
I have been paying atention to what he has to offer in terms of specifics and let me tell you he has specifics, substance, real stuff.
He looks like eager to go ahead! He will!!! He is now not looking back to Hillary, he is now concentrating in McCain, and I feel so good he is so on top and ahead of things.
I can't wait to see him in the Oval office. He will be there, you bet.
Posted by: J. Perez Acosta | Feb 13, 2008 11:42:23 PM
Odle: you say: Whatever Hillary does, it’s not good enough or an act of "desperation." Sorry to disagree, what Hillary has done during the last week is just unimaginable a month ago. She has just lost everything by margins that are hard to believe. I didnot expect any candidate to win all, but look at the excitement she showed when beating Obama by a margin of 2 points in New Hampshire. I think it should have been quite different if she loses District of Columbia by, say, 9 points. But what are we going to say or think to help her when she loses by 51 points!! And then everything else this week she has lost by 21, 29, 31, 37 points. Sorry, numbers don't lie. On the one hand I am surprised by her inability to run a campaign, on the other hand I feel safe she is basically out, I don't one such a manager in the Oval office.
But all her shortcomings only help us to underline the impressive qualities of Obama.
Let's face it: WE have already a great candidate to battle McCain.
He will win. Come on Hillary supporters, get used.
I am happy to see Hillary supporters already warming up in their blog (hillary website) with the "yes we can", they are getting ready and soon they will be in the "O BA MA!! O BA MA!!" and they are all welcome!
But above all, see the substance in Obama, there is stuff, leadership.
I am not a Hillary hater, only don't want to get stuck with her now, I need to look ahead. I am happy we have found our candidate.
Get used guys: Barack Obama, 44th. President of the USA.
Posted by: J. Perez Acosta | Feb 13, 2008 11:55:43 PM
He cannot defeat McCain and? Huckabee.
The guys are not going to vote for Obama they will go to McCain.
Obama is too inexperienced. He slid into his senate seat. He works the crowd into a frenzy, learned well from Oprah. He has speech writers.
His past is not any more clean then the rest. 8 more years and he could do it.
Clinton-Edwards yes, they can and than we can.
Posted by: Janetberns | Feb 14, 2008 12:08:41 AM
J. Perez Acosta - You go your way, i go mine. You want Obama, go get him. Hillary is still ours and we are behind her all the way. Live with it, get use to it. I have made up my mind and i am certain, that no matter what the outcome is - Obama will never be my president. Never.
Posted by: Oodle | Feb 14, 2008 12:14:19 AM
i'm more and more convinced obama will CREAM mccain... mccain is just bush-lite... if people think obama got where he is without thinking about his policies, you are sadly mistaken.... if you go to his website and read his policies, they are very very clear... he doesn't speak much about the details now because his general vision is enough... obviously!... since he is doing so well in the primaries... but i can't WAIT to see him and mccain in a debate... he will CREAM mccain... if all mccain has is his love of the iraq war, and military experience, he is DOOMED... people are SO SICK of fear mongering and destroying our country (not to mention the planet) for the sake of securing oil in the mid-east... humanity needs to evolve... not physically, but mentally and emotionally, if we are to survive on this planet... somehow i think at least subconsiously people are sooo ready for a change... the united states can be the leader for the world and stop being bullys... mccain is a bully from the old school mentality... obama can lead us forward
Posted by: earthisnotflat | Feb 14, 2008 12:23:37 AM
Obama is right, finish this war because it is unjust and has led to the death of many good and innocent people. There was no WMD, and Saddam had nothing to do with 911 according to our own intelligence. Time to use our own intelligence. Let us stop making money for the special interests and arms merchants and put the money where it is needed, the economy stupid.
Posted by: fred kelley | Feb 14, 2008 12:30:08 AM
Obama doesn't have one good idea in his silly little head. No experience. No ideas. Hardly any record for the job he does have. Doesn't he want to give drivers licenses to illegals...when as a U.S. citizen I'm challenged to come up with all 10 forms of id for the dmv. What other nonsense will he come up with? Its like the mentally vacant sophmore running for class president. We need more yoo hoo in the cafeteria...thats my plan. Four years of Obama will be like being stuck in a crappy episode of Oprah.
Posted by: lucy | Feb 14, 2008 12:43:26 AM
GC:
You write that "The [Fair Pay Act] bill is designed to provide equal pay and prohibit discrimination for similar but not dissimilar work based on race, sex, or national origin."
If only the text of the proposed bill were as friendly to free enterprise:
"The term `equivalent jobs' means jobs that may be dissimilar, but whose requirements are equivalent, when viewed as a composite of skills, effort, responsibility, and working conditions.'
Is the bill scary now?
Pay discrimination for the SAME job is and should remain illegal, of course. I will cede to Sen. Clinton her full compensation package, a particular bargain as we will get two for the price of one.
Posted by: weffiewonj | Feb 14, 2008 12:53:42 AM
Poster said, "Obama chances of beating McCain is a fairytale and anyone with brains will agree."
I've met lots of ex-husbands who felt that people who disagreed with them lacked brains.
Posted by: Dave | Feb 14, 2008 1:14:32 AM
I think the media is bending over backwards to be PC, being too cautious to criticize Obama at the expense of Hillary. If any other candidate makes a stump speech without any substance, the pundits will be all over them. But with Obama, they are tip toeing on egg shells. God forbid someone calls them racists..
Posted by: SoOverObama | Feb 14, 2008 1:45:13 AM
I agree with Kelley, Huge Chunks of taxpayers money was used in the execution and pursuit of personal interests,thanks to the two Bushes we've had. How about putting this money to good use as far as our health,social security and economy is concerned. You talk of experience but I tell you that War veterans would never think of anything but WAR. Obama sounds inexperienced but why not give him a chance. He is what we need,One who thinks of OUR OWN Interests and Welfare and not on Outside. Cheers
Posted by: Philbert | Feb 14, 2008 1:54:45 AM
McCain used to be worthy of respect. But now that he's turned into Bush Part Two and compromised all of his principles just to get the nomination...he's just another bought-and-paid for Republican. Too bad. Nobody in America wants - or can afford - seven more years of this.
Posted by: wilder5121 | Feb 14, 2008 3:19:08 AM
If you think it's bad for McCain now, wait till Obama or Hillary unleash the 30-second ads of him flip-flopping on hundreds of issues. It won't be pretty and McCain's advisers know it- that's why they're leaving. Why stick around to be in the wreck?
I am surprised ABCnews.com tolerates this level of racism and sexism from posters. It's not as much as Dumb Imus or Michael totally Savege, but still. IF you don't like a candidate, you can express it without resorting to racist or sexist remarks.
Posted by: AgentX | Feb 14, 2008 4:15:28 AM
mccain would be a terrible choice for America and our soldiers and homeowners.....he doesn't understand the economy and he clearly can't comprehend what it will take to defeat terrorism.....at least senator obama is on the right track, but ONLY SENATOR CLINTON has the qualifications to make her beneficial plans and policies and strategies a reality and impact and affect those who need her guidance and assistance both as President and as Commander-in-Chief AS SOON AS POSSIBLE......if we did not have such an anti-American as a president for the last 7 years, it would be more of a toss-up between her and senator obama.....but things as they are, AMERICA NEEDS SENATOR CLINTON'S LEADERSHIP AND THE SOONER, THE BETTER!
Posted by: chris | Feb 14, 2008 4:35:08 AM
Obama is for the War having voted to continue spending and leaving the troops in Iraq. In fact he wants to expand the war by attacking Pakistan, and if need be Iran. He stands in the way to impeachment having Conyers and Scott stand-down in order racialize the bid to the Whitehouse. Obama says he is against Impeachment which tells it all, in concern to his unconcern for innocent people killed by Bush and Cheney. At least Hillary can admitt she was duped into the lie of the war, and is now progressively trying to end it. Obama victories are no victories. Same ole dog doo.



