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Obama on Clinton: 'She's Still the Favorite'
February 02, 2008 8:41 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: Just three days before Super Tuesday, in a now two-person race with Sen. Hillary Clinton for the democratic nomination, Barack Obama is still pushing back against issues of race and overcoming the status quo.
When asked during the MTV/MySpace/AP forum if the race was just about his race, Obama countered that it was not, because if it was, "I wouldn’t have to answer questions. I could just show up."
Moments earlier at a rally in Minneapolis, Obama spoke about the race winnowing down and pushed back against the "status quo" before a crowd of 18,000.
"There are all sorts of reasons being authored by the purveyors for the status quo as to why we can't bring about change," Obama said, and then jokingly mocked some criticisms: "There are folks who are arguing around the 'if he is follower of Ronald Reagan,' despite this week they were saying, 'Well, he’s too liberal because he’s got a liberal voting record.' 'He’s a little too black.' 'Well, maybe he’s not black enough.'"
Obama said people got "giddy" after his Iowa win, and expected the rest to be easy.
"You see, people thought you win one election and suddenly the status quo gives in. You know, elect Barack, immediately we’ll have racial reconciliation, poverty will be over and you know nobody will argue anymore, and teenage children will listen to you," Obama joked, then recalled after the New Hampshire loss how people thought twice.
"And then we lose in New Hampshire. And suddenly people were like, ‘Oh I guess this isn’t’ as easy as we thought.’"
Obama said that the loss in New Hampshire was useful to his campaign because it made them recognize that the rest wouldn’t be easy.
With just three days before Feb. 5, Obama played up this realization, telling a group of reporters, "I don’t think that there is any doubt that we’ve made some progress," but adding, "I don’t think that there’s any doubt that Senator Clinton -– she’s still the favorite."
February 2, 2008 in Kucinich, Dennis | Permalink | User Comments (92)
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3/4 of the democratic party is on Clintons side. check out the super delegate tally. All you Obama folks here is about John Kerry and Ted Kennedy and a few others. Clinton has 10 govenors, including the COVETED swing state Govenor of Ohio. She proved she can crush Obama and Mc Cain in Florida.
Of course Clinton is the favorite. The only chance obama has if he somehow WINS super tuesday, causing the rest of the super delegates to cave in and endorse him. If Clinton is 200 ahead, then Obama is on life support.
Posted by: tom | Feb 2, 2008 11:19:28 PM
You all talk about her experience...really now, what experience? what major accomplishments does she have? nothing.
Posted by: Chad | Feb 2, 2008 11:24:47 PM
Everyone says that Hillary Clinton as having a lot of experience...let's look at the experience..
Born 1947, Yale Law School 1969, First Lady of Arkansas 1978 - 1992, 1993-2000 First Lady of United States, 2000-2008 US Senator.
I'll leave the question of judgement, accomplishments, and style of leadership to the most intelligent voters?
Posted by: 3bugsmom | Feb 2, 2008 11:42:21 PM
this is a very biased piece.
especially inappropriate coming in the days leading up to Feb 5.
"I don’t think that there’s any doubt that Senator Clinton -– she’s still the favorite."
What is the context of this quote? Why is this not presented?
Posted by: Jack | Feb 2, 2008 11:51:01 PM
how could people talk about obama like of exp.? when president kennedy was also freshmen senator! then went on to become greatest president ever!
Posted by: fredd | Feb 2, 2008 11:54:50 PM
Hillary is Smart, and she will be a GREAT President.. All you Nay Sayers can go pound sand.. You know , just like your boy bush has been doing for the last 7+ years.. The Great Decider.. What a joke.. I remember 9/11 seeing bush sit there for 7-8 minutes
Posted by: J.Murphy, CA. | Feb 2, 2008 11:59:17 PM
If Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, I'd like to see him pick Bill Richardson as his running mate.
Posted by: eric | Feb 3, 2008 12:01:41 AM
Cost of Hillary's Iraq war vote = 4000 invaluable lives of our finest, pluse 40000 iraqi civilians, for a war based on lies.
cost of (100/4000 2.4%) of Obamas vote = NOT as damaging as as the above.
Hillary could have a better defense of her war vote if she voted present(abstatind) for the Iraq vote.
So, don't bring the vote issue Hillary supporters .. evreytime you bring the vote issue you disugst me by shwoing not respect rather insult to those 4000 and ther families.
Posted by: moeen | Feb 3, 2008 12:10:38 AM
I am amazed at how the media supports Obama. Today Rasmussen has Hillary gaining 3 points since the debate and has a 8-9 point lead, also see the polls below.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS AVERAGES
Election 2008
Republicans
Democrats
National
McCain + 12.4
Clinton + 9.8
California
McCain + 8.3
Clinton + 11.7
New York
McCain + 31.3
Clinton + 21.5
Illinois
McCain + 14.0
Obama + 28.3
Missouri
McCain + 5.0
Clinton + 12.0
New Jersey
McCain + 17.3
Clinton + 10.0
Georgia
Huckabee + 5.7
Obama + 8.3
Tennessee
McCain + 5.3
Clinton + 17.3
Alabama
McCain + 6.5
Clinton + 1.5
Connecticut
McCain + 22.0
Clinton + 3.4
More Feb 5 States
Republicans
Democrats
Delegate Race
McCain + 34
Clinton + 76
Posted by: ColonelRay | Feb 3, 2008 12:24:49 AM
I definitely support Barrack when it comes to healthcare. I believe universal healthcare will be paid for through hard working American income. I personally pay enough in taxes and medicare, now an added deduction will come with universal healthcare. I am a healthy American at this time and I don't want more of my money deducted for healthcare universally. I'd rather choose my own plan and pay for it as it suites my family, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS MORE AFFORDABLE. I also agree with parents providing coverage for their children until the age of 25, because most young adults dont take their health seriously. Also, in the other countries that have universal healthcare, they are not as sick as the average American. We are at the top for being overweight and suffer from several diseases that are related to obesity, (MEANING MORE COST FOR TREATMENT). Preventive medicine is nothing new, it just have not worked much, because people dont care.
Clinton will say anything to be elected, universal healthcare will be deducted from everyones income, because IT HAS TO BE PAID FOR.IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC TO THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.
Posted by: Carol | Feb 3, 2008 12:31:48 AM
Hillary's ambition has no limits. Every assignment, association or vote is cynically crafted simply for future public consumption:
-- She voted for the war authorization as insurance against potential popular support that never happened.
-- She got on the Senate Armed Services Committee because polling indicated that a woman as commander-in-chief creates concern
-- She ran for a lay-up senate seat in New York because polling indicated she was perceived as incidental to herhusband's career
-- The office in the West Wing, the closed door development of her failed health care plan, the unwillingness to release any papers that indicate she had any substantive role in the accomplishments she now claims
It's all about perception. She is an expert in hiring people that craft a personna that does not exist. Then she memorizes their talking points.
George Orwell only got two things wrong... the book should have been "2008" and it will be Big Sister, not Big Brother.
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | Feb 3, 2008 12:35:41 AM
The reason so many hate Hillary, is because she has the nerve to challenge the traditional role of women. Hillary got into trouble when she decided to be a real first lady, and actually do something other than smile and bake cookies. People were mad that Bill gave her the power he gave her. If Hillary was not a woman, she would be waking away with this nomination. I don't understand how people still feel women are not suppose to be strong, intelligent, goal driven, accomplished, bold, aggressive, ect. It is the 21st century. Obama wants to talk judgement, yet he let Rezko help him buy a house he couldn't afford, while Rezko was under investigation. He called it a boneheaded mistake. He misvoted at least 6 times in the Illinois state senate, saying he hit the wrong button. What an idiot. He rarely shows up to vote and when he does, he hits the wrong button. This guy is so not ready to lead our nation.
Posted by: Bret | Feb 3, 2008 12:41:00 AM
some of the comments of you Hillary supporters really show your "35 years of experience", just because Barack said she is the favorite, you think she is really? duh, dumb people. You lull your opponent and her loyal corrupt supporters into a sense of complacency, and you know this race is so close, thats when you take them out by suprise.
WISDOM IS JUSTIFIED OF HER CHILDREN and the last time i saw, none of you have that.
OBAMA 2008
Posted by: benny | Feb 3, 2008 12:52:56 AM
To Hilary supporters 35 years experience does not make you a leader.
A leader leads by example and by inspiring those that they lead to unite for and persivere towards a command beneficial goal. Where in her 35 years of experience as she united both demps and GOP to achieve something. Not health care even with democrates holding both houses in 1993.
As an ex soldier I know of many old experience officers who have lead their men to their death, while the young inexperience insperational Lt get his men to follow him to achieve the objective without loss of life.
America, no the world needs you to pick a leader that will inspire all of us to work for a better world in which we live in.
Posted by: Evan | Feb 3, 2008 1:15:59 AM
I’ve heard this all before. You don’t like Hillary because:
-She’s a strong woman.
-She doesn’t bake cookies.
-She went outside the traditional role of a First Lady.
-She’s smart/intelligent/competent/(insert your favorite way of saying she’s got a good brain here).
-You’re a woman hater.
-You’re hater.
-You’re a Republican.
I have two words for Bret: Condi Rice.
Stop thinking that why some people don't like Mrs. Clinton, is that she's strong, challenging the traditional role, or any of that CRAP! She's an extremely unlikable person. This does not mean that no one could like her; rather, that it's easy to NOT like her. (Don't worry Bret, I realize that nuance is hard for you, but I think other people will understand.)
My family is full of strong women . . . very strong women, yet I don't like her, nor do most of these strong women. Why? As for me, it's simple.
*She is obviously ambitious (not the good kind of ambition).
*Hillary is smug.
*She lectures like your older sister.
*She'll say anything to get power, such as telling the world that she can control Bill, as if . . .
*Her work for children was not for children, as such, but a group that advocated a certain position for children. I'm sorry Brett, you might have trouble understanding the difference, but here it is. One type of group believes in helping children with food, and clothes, and medicine. Hillary's type of group believes in gaining political influence and power so that they can make sure that there are government programs to get public money set aside so that OTHER people (a bureaucracy) can do something for children at a much higher cost/benefit ratio. Of course, the side benefit to the second group is political patronage.
*Hillary has spent most of her time riding her hubby’s coattails.
*Hillary is smart. Big whoop! Jimmy Carter was one of the smartest presidents in our history. He was also one of the least capable. And if she’s so smart, do you think she might have been able to explain to Bill what the “meaning of the word ‘is’ is” at any point since 1998?
*Hillary cried crocodile tears for the cameras when she thought she might lose to Obama. (Or do you want it both ways?)
Oh, and as for not baking . . . I had an aunt that built a successful business (a chain of bridal stores) and made some of the best food you ever tasted. SO don’t feed me any more nonsensical CRAP about baking and being a strong woman being mutually exclusive.
Which reminds me of another strong woman, Julia Childs.
"The reason so many hate Hillary, is because she has the nerve to challenge the traditional role of women . . . "
Posted by: Bret | Feb 3, 2008 12:41:00 AM
Posted by: H&F Labs | Feb 3, 2008 1:29:34 AM
So Tammy, I guess you don't mind that Bill Clinton just took a 31 million dollar donation to the Clinton library along with the pledge of 100 million more from a uranium mine broker.
Think about it -- there's only one use for uranium, right? And now that sweetheart donor has three plum mining contracts in an area that doesn't respect human rights. Do you know where that uranium will go? I sure don't.
Hillary Clinton couldn't be bothered to read the intelligence reports on Iraq that showed there were no weapons of mass destruction, choosing instead to send thousands of our troops into Iraq and onto their death.
She applauds the saber rattling with Iran, suggesting even more carnage in a renewed Clinton administration. And of course, I don't expect Mr. Clinton to sit idly by and knit during her administration, which also is concerning.
There are good reasons to support a candidate, and good reasons not to. But criticizing someone for fighting as hard as they possibly can against a bill they had no chance to win because of the legislators that accepted the big lobby money is not a good reason.
Posted by: Karoli | Feb 3, 2008 2:45:25 AM
Of all the blogs posted by Obama supporters none that I've read ever claim that HRC is not smart, that she is not capable and that she is not hardworking. None. What many do point out is that her experience has largely been tied to her husbands political aims and objectives. Like comments on her general intelligence, this statement should be taken as a point of fact. Her experience in public life is linked to her husband's political achievements and initiatives, with the exception of her time in the Senate.
As for her experience prior to the Senate it is not outside reason to assert that, on balance, the Clintons squandered a tremendous amount of the progressive momentum they brought with them into the White House during the first "one hundred days" with such memorable legislative battles as "Don't ask/don't tell" and the beginnings of HRC's poorly executed attempt at healthcare reform. Their administration's early policies also aided the rise of "shut-the-government-down" Newt Gingrich and the Republican driven legislative agenda called the "contract for America." So much promise and potential wasted because of poor management and leadership on the Clinton's part. Was/is Bill Clinton smart? You bet. Intelligence isn't the only measure of a leader. Nor is hard work.
When I hear Hillary use the "I'm ready on day one" line I wonder about her role in the "day one" planning of the first Clinton administration. If so, that does not bode well for the country. From day one the Clinton's set in motion a partisan mood that resulted in a huge mid-term election loss for the Democrats and raised the level of vitriol in DC to epic levels. They didn't do it alone, I realize, but they certainly contributed regularly to the remaining 6 years of national melodrama that we all had to endure. Boy, I felt really sorry for Hillary during that period, and respected her poise. Yet the thought of a "season 3" return of the political-drama "The Clinton's Rule Washington D.C." makes me want to give my television away.
As for her experience, since she has been an elected official, the most important vote had to be the Iraq war resolution. She got that one horribly wrong. There was plenty of reasoned Democratic opposition to that vote, and HRC voted against reason. In that regard, she is no different than John McCain. Nor is she any different than him on the more recent vote on the Kyl-Lieberman resolution; another example of poor judgement not unlike her vote on the bankruptcy bill. In all three cases her vote was one of political expedience.
I was always, and remain, against the invasion of Iraq. I am a yellow-dog Democrat and have always voted a straight Democratic ticket. But I personally cannot hold my nose and vote for HRC because of her Iraq war vote.
She was wrong, and the idea that she needed more information then to make the right decision is disingenuous. There was plenty of solid intelligence, the personal judgement type of intelligence, to guide her. And with a vote like that she claims national security experience...
In 2004 the anti-war vote was buried with Howard Dean. This year we all have a chance to elect someone who showed good judgement on the most important decision our nation has made in this century; a decision that will affect generations to come.
Anti-war bias aside, I hope that the nation does not choose to invite more drama and divisiveness back into the national household. It's not about giving a woman a turn, it's about putting our nation on a different course. A return to past leadership will not move our nation forward.
Posted by: Abroadabroad | Feb 3, 2008 3:20:26 AM
Barack will unite america,
Hillary will try,
Barack is more honest,
than she is,
her campaign has been accused the most of lies telling,than any other.
Barack has less negatives,
than she does,
Both will be blackmailed by corporate contributors,
Hillary, much more so than barack.
Barack can get youths, independents, and republicans to vote dem. in november,
Some democrats will vote republican just to keep hillary out,(remember 40% uncommitted ?).
With barack the world will love america once more.
with hillary...maybe.
Barack will inspire americans to achieve the seemingly impossible,
Hillary...not so much.
Hillary will be a good president.
Barack will be a great president.
Posted by: bushu | Feb 3, 2008 3:57:57 AM
And I don't anyone that would get on a bridge with Teddy being built back to the 60's.
Posted by: C DEPP | Feb 3, 2008 5:07:12 AM
Lets see. It just came out today that of all the people in the Senate, Obama has the most liberal record. Now, I am looking to see when the last time was that a person with the most liberal voting record in the senate was elected president. Hold on I almost got it.....
NEVER.
Posted by: C DEPP | Feb 3, 2008 5:11:23 AM
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