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Obama Rebuts Clinton’s Argument by Using Historical Speeches

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February 17, 2008 7:02 AM

ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: Summoning up famous quotes within historical speeches from the Declaration of Independence, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Martin Luther King – Sen. Barack Obama made the case that speeches, and words matter in politics.

Obama was rebutting a direct criticism from Democratic presidential rival, Sen Hillary Clinton, who said that it's solutions, not speeches, that change America.

"Don't tell me words don't matter! 'I have a dream', just words? 'We hold these truths to be self evident that all me are created equal' - just words? 'We have nothing to fear but fear itself?' - just words. Just speeches." Obama preached, using the famous phrases to question the notion that words and speeches do not make a difference.

"It's true that speeches don't solve all problems, but what is also true is if we cannot inspire the country to believe again then it doesn't matter how many policies and plans we have," Obama said in front of the Wisconsin Democratic Party's Jefferson Jackson dinner, "That is why we just won eight elections straight, because the American people want to believe in change again. Don't tell me words don't matter!"

Obama has been pushing back against Clinton's criticism of his speechifying strongly while campaigning in Wisconsin this week. He recently admitted to a crowd in OshKosh, "I give a good speech. What can I do?"

The Senator caused a dust up on the campaign trail once before when using Martin Luther King’s name when rebutting another Clinton argument against his hope message - that he needs a reality check. Obama fired back questioning if Martin Luther King told crowds gathered on the Lincoln Memorial to just go home, instead of hoping for change.

The line also made a resurgence at Wisconsin dinner Saturday night.

"Martin Luther King didn't stand on the steps of the Lincoln and say 'go home, ya'll need a reality check.'" Obama argued once again.

February 17, 2008 in Kucinich, Dennis | Permalink | User Comments (170)

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Joe: Introducing legislation means nothing - it needs to get passed. Hillary has accomplished almost NOTHING on a national stage. Oh, yeah, there was that health care thing back in the '90s, that was a big success. Frankly, she is a failure as a leader.

What's more, when has she "faced down the Republican Attack machine" in an election? Never. She's never faced a real opponent, until now. And what do you know, the wheels are coming off.


Posted by: Eric | Feb 17, 2008 10:24:25 AM

JOE--What has Hillary Clinton accomplished on the National stage? Introducing legislation is nowhere near accomplishment. Thousands bills are introduced that never make it out of their committees, much less to a formal debate of vote. I extend the same challenge to you as I did to SEAH. Show me accomplishment and instance of Hillary changing government to benefit the American people.

Posted by: Mannewell Darby | Feb 17, 2008 10:28:01 AM

Wait a minute. Each of those cited by Obama "walked the walk" and had the right and background to "talk the talk". OBama does not. He can only talk it. He has shown in the past only that he can not cross the aisle and unite as the majority of his programs only pass committee or one side and he can't bring the other side over to his program.

Posted by: Oldgaman | Feb 17, 2008 10:29:56 AM

The point is that speeches are fine but they aren't everything. And good speeches are no match for experience and hard work to make things happen. I think Obama is lacking in this regard and we need a president who can get things done, not just spew feel-good platitudes.

Posted by: Lezident | Feb 17, 2008 10:31:39 AM

Hillary Clinton would make a terrible Secretary of State. It was she and Madame Albright who pushed the whipped spouse into a mass bombing of Serbia. This action was another meddling and naive intrusion into a centuries old regional situation having no bearing on US security or interests. We will see in years to come the bad effects of this bold, arrogant and illegal action.

Posted by: J Robinson | Feb 17, 2008 10:32:49 AM

I still think this attack on Obama for making campaign speeches is just weird. That's what candidates do. By the way, we've heard the criticism by Clinton, during her speeches.

Its a real head-scratching line of attack.

By the way, the New York delegate count might shift a little. The New York Board of Elections has never officially released its results, and the New York Post is reporting that there was widespread undercounting of Obama's votes in nine wards in the city - to the point of precincts reporting zero votes for Obama when in some precincts, hand recounts are showing he actually won.

Now no one is claiming anything under-handed, nor claiming Obama might be able to ride the recount to victory in that state. But it might gain him a delegate or two or three.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 17, 2008 10:35:57 AM

In keeping with this argument, that means the Soviet Union collapsed because a dottering old man, guilty of selling weapons to our enemies who later used them on us, and giving cash to people named Bin Laden, asked them to 'tear down this wall' and POOF they just did so, in fright of grandpa.

Clinton may be a phony, but this Obama rubbish just has no end. There is always an answer when he is accused. There is always a twist when he is caught (I pushed the wrong button, I guess the article wasn't in Life, maybe Ebony. No? Oh, well I don't remember . . .). He attacks on things his own family has done. He talks about votes and then hides from making them. He takes credit for speeches he doesn't write, and now we are to believe that without action, words are enough. Yes, the inspire, but just as in the French Revolution, it took action, or the lack of, to create or defeat a movement.

There is a story about this in the famous book by Thomas Carllyle - The French Revolution. There are all these glowing recitations about the poor and about the maltreated, but as yet, few marched. There were tirades against the King, and some marched. And yet, once the movement was strong, because power is in numbers, one young man, not yet in the higher ranks of military wrote a small comment in his diary, right after the Bastille.

"It would have taken but a whiff of grape shot - and the crowd would have been silenced for good."

Napolean Bonaparte 1793

Now, just one small shot from a cannon, to show there was FIGHT behind the government, and it would have sent the signal. But it is the fight that does the deed. The words might whip you up, but look at Cuba? The little bit they do, they march barely, but all the words of Radio Marti for 45 years, they still have yet to DO SOMETHING.

The Berlin Wall no more fell because Ronald Regan told it to, then getting to the moon was because of JFK's speech. It was a good start. But without past results, all the good intentions and speeches on earth don't amount to a hill of beans.

Ever worked for a retail store, and at the end of the night the manager gives the team the rundown on just how much the store made that day? I have. Oooo, it's just electrifying, hearing all about how the store made hundreds of thousands that day, while we killed ourselves for peanuts. And all that passion that we heard. Wow. But it didn't effect us in the right way. Passion without purpose is meaningless. But Passion without past results is even worse - it is a vaccum, a void. And the universe depises nothing more than a vaccum

Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Feb 17, 2008 10:40:15 AM

And its down to where a couple additional delegates out of New York really makes the Clinton comeback try that much more difficult.

Obama now leads by 137 pledged delegates; at least that's the number I saw somewhere. There's 17 contests left.

Her path to catching and passing Obama is netting 25 delegates in Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and then 5 delegates in each of the smaller states remaining.

The first two smaller states are up Tuesday - and we've seen the Clinton camp pulling back its events in Wisconsin - never a good sign.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 17, 2008 10:42:52 AM

Obama is not Dr. King. King was not running for office on empty promises. He had a dream AND a plan. But his response is brilliant.

Posted by: Tony | Feb 17, 2008 10:50:49 AM

jerry z said: I was a Hillary backer. This negative campaigning and now her campaign says people that voted for Obama are insignifcant? How arrogant!! Its the people she serves. To blow off people that voted democrat, even the independence and crossover republicans, is wrong."

ISN'T THAT WHAT OBAMA'S CROWD IS DOING WITH THE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA VOTERS? HYPOCRITE.

Posted by: tony | Feb 17, 2008 10:53:21 AM

JOE--Dr. King gave speeches to inspire people to reach for accomplishment rather to accept things as they are. If you know anything at all about the American Civil Rights Movement, then you should know that it started off very, very small, in disjointed groups. There were few leaders and many people looking, hoping for change. Dr. King was one of those leaders. I don't know that much bout FDR, but I don't think that having polio is what made him a great leader. However I do know a little about American history and I do remember the Declaration of Independence was a social turning point in the American Revolutionary War. Up until that point, the American people had accomplished very little overall. The Boston Tea Party, the Boston Massacre, the invasion, and subsequent small battles--mostly losses overall did not inspire the whole of America to revolt. It wasn't until Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" was circulated and the Declaration of Independence was signed that the American people began to get behind the war. Words may have been the most powerful weapon of the war. You can't compare history to the present day like it happened in the past. You have to take history in the context of its time. Today is our time and Obama's words are only popular because the echo the hearts of the majority of Americans everywhere. Today is our time and change begins with demanding change.

Posted by: Mannewell Darby | Feb 17, 2008 10:57:01 AM

Tony - Obama has only empty promises?

I thought that other than the mandated health insurance buy, his domestic plans were nearly identical to Clintons. So if he's offering empty promises, doesn't that mean she is as well?

Posted by: Paul | Feb 17, 2008 11:03:04 AM

One year in the Senate! Obama is like the slick preacher. Always says the right things to get you fired up believing in change and then later you find out it was all hot air. The real person shows up. Seen to many of those here in the South to fall for it again.

Posted by: Jeremy | Feb 17, 2008 11:08:13 AM

TONY--Obama and all Democratic Presidential candidates were prevented from campaigning in Michigan and Florida due to Democratic National Convention rules. If you have a problem with Michigan and Florida not being counted, send a letter to Howard Dean, President of the DNC. Obama is just following the rules set forth and much better than Clinton who did not take her name off the ballot in Michigan. You might also want to direct criticism at the heads of the Democratic Party in MI and FL who choose to move their primaries to earlier dates even though they were warned of this outcome. If they had only maintained their original dates they would have played as important a part as ever. Typical politics. Now it is Hillary who is trying to use this unfortunate incident and the popularity of her name to reap delegates from states where no one ran a race because of DNC restrictions. Typical politics.

Posted by: Mannewell Darby | Feb 17, 2008 11:12:57 AM

People yammering about Obama's lack of accomplishment are full of it. His legislative track record is longer than Hillary's, and he's been more active in getting significant legislation passed in the Senate. And what experience or accomplishment can Hillary claim, other than pointing, clapping, and destroying any chance at health care reform back in the '90?

Anyone calling for MI and FL to count are probably on the Clinton payroll. MI in particular, where Hillary was the only one on the ballot? What is this, the Soviet Union?


Posted by: Eric | Feb 17, 2008 11:17:31 AM

Mrs. Obama said Americans lost their souls. Mr. Obama gives Americans inspiration. I think it is not ture for everyone.

Americans have their souls. They are looking for someone to handle the task and get down to work.

Speaches are good, but we need to be able to ask questions. Go Debate on issues. This is very important for Americans to know whats up.

Someone said Obama has a new generation flag that is the flag turned into an "o" with a sun and a meadow. Is this true?

Posted by: Speaches are ok but can we have questoins | Feb 17, 2008 11:20:35 AM

A STATE senator. Who actually knows the names of their STATE senators? Goodness grief. Call it what it is. The minor leagues- if that. If you want to base your vote on a minor league candidate and what he did in the state senate be my guest. The Presidency is to important. Hence, why he has a minimal voting record to DEFEND.

Posted by: Henry | Feb 17, 2008 11:21:55 AM

Mannewell -- please don't recite sterile rules to me. That speech doesn't sound like hope. It sounds like "more of the same." Election law protects candidates -- like Hillary and Barack. So I completely agree with him arguing that the votes shouldn't count. But -- election law also protects voters. The voters in these states have a right to be counted- regardless of whom the winner would be. This is exactly the arguments the Dems made in Bush v Gore. It is terrible to see so-called Dems abandon that now just to see their candidate win. Is this what we have to look forward to under President Messiah?

Paul - Obama's empty promises are all this unity and hope crap. He is just another Dem. Republicans are not going to bend over because the Prophet Obama is speaking. Get real. Many Dems arent even buying that crap, if the closeness of the race means anything.

Posted by: Tony | Feb 17, 2008 11:23:34 AM

And regarding Clinton's claim to be in the "solutions business" - how EXACTLY is she planning to enforce the mandates in her health care plan? She won't say, although she's let it slip a few times that she would "go after their wages". Reeeaally? How, exactly, is this going to work? Do tell, Hillary.

People, this is the plan? She expects everyone to line up for a policy that forces people to pay and garnishes their wages (or what, throws them in jail?). The republicans are already getting set to fillet her with this.

Posted by: Eric | Feb 17, 2008 11:24:02 AM

So now Obama thinks he's Thomas Jefferson, John Locke, and Franklin Roosevelt? As well as John Kennedy and Martin Luther King? I fully expect him to declare himself Jesus Christ at any moment. --------- His speeches do have nice words. To bad they are always somebody elses words.

Posted by: John D | Feb 17, 2008 11:25:47 AM

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