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Obama Using McCain to Show Differences with Clinton
February 03, 2008 6:48 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miler reports: Barack Obama, in recent days, has been encouraging people to think of him in comparison to John McCain, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination. At a Delaware rally he compared himself to Hillary Clinton, arguing that he’s the best choice to run against McCain, because of the clarity he offers on positions -- and connected Clinton to McCain’s positions on the Iraq war.
"We expect that John McCain may end up being the nominee. And if John McCain is the nominee, then the Democratic party has to ask itself do you want a candidate who has similar policies to John McCain on the war in Iraq or somebody who can offer a stark contrast?" he said.
Obama said that he’s a candidate with positions that could go up against McCain’s -– saying he’d offer a clear alterative to the "failed policies of George W. Bush" -– and outlined points, in veiled references to Hillary Clinton, where he’d stack up better.
"When I’m the nominee, John McCain won’t be able to say that you were for this war in Iraq, because I wasn’t. He won’t be able to say that I followed the Bush-Cheney doctrine in not talking to leaders we don’t like, because I don’t. He won’t be able to say that I went along and gave George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, because I haven’t. He won’t be able to say that I was unclear about my position on torture, because I’ve been absolutely clear we never torture in this country."
Obama concluded that more clarity is needed in the campaign –- and that "we don’t need to have a Democratic nominee who is not clear about the kind of fight that we’re going into."
Using McCain’s likely nomination as a peg to highlight differences between the Democratic candidates is not unique to Obama. This week Sen. Clinton has also been arguing that she is most electable in a race against McCain.
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Obama can only use others. He really has nothing of his own to offer. He did not even have his own platform when his candidacy started. He had to copy Senator Clintons platform. They shut Bill up. Maybe Oprah told him to do it or drunk Teddy.
Posted by: Pat | Feb 3, 2008 7:11:24 PM
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Obama, on the other hand, has both. His upbringing and his work experience—as a community organizer in Chicago and as a civil rights lawyer—formed his understanding of the diversity and inequities faced by so many people in this country. His work as a state legislator and a US senator has given him leadership and legislative experience.
His opposition to the war has been steady for more than five years, and his willingness to calmly discuss bi-partisanship should not be used against him, as it has by the Clinton campaign.
If Democrats are serious about winning back the White House, they need to chart a new path. And if insanity (as Albert Einstein is oft quoted as saying) is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a new result, then Obama isn’t just the best choice; he’s the sanest. Dems must pick a new leader unconnected to the administrations of the past; they must elect the first president in 20 years whose last name isn’t Clinton or Bush.
New Mexico has a small number of delegates, but a big chance to send a message.
That message is this: The choice of Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee would signify a turning point in the leadership of this country, one that is long overdue, one that should not, cannot, be put off any longer.
Posted by: Tad Dickson | Feb 3, 2008 7:34:36 PM
Pat -you sound like a bitter HRC supporter....you must be devastated that California might go for Obama now that Maria Shriver has endorsed Obama and that this announcement that happened live on C-Span today will be plastered all over the news and papers in CA all day tomorrow. Obama is CORRECT!!! he has more real contrasts to McCain than Hilary - even the VILE Ann Coulter says Hilary is more CONSERVATive than McCain!!
Posted by: michaelinphilly | Feb 3, 2008 7:37:44 PM
Obama makes an obvious point of fact that is inarguable. Hillary, ever calculating, jumped the shark when she thought such a move (on Iraq) would endear her to general election voters. Obama on the other hand, without enraging half the voters, sticks with who he is, and what he believes, and wins the Iraq debate easily against Hillary. It is he who is getting the cross-over voters while Hillary in her wildest dreams will never compete. She has burned too many bridges and run everybody off except her core.
Hillary needs to stick to her health care arguement that she has flogged to death, to which she has added, in breaking news, garnishing your wages!
Shocking but to wriggle out of that statement this morning will be entertaining.
Posted by: Rita | Feb 3, 2008 7:43:29 PM
Obama is inconsistent and weak, with a shady past. No plans, no substance, no hope.
Posted by: GT | Feb 3, 2008 7:50:37 PM
Hillary has a much better shot at healing and unifying than Obama, she is clever, and compassionate - even to those who aren't white. Obama isn't compassionate; one indication is his not getting much working-class people's votes, most of his supporters are elites and rich (except in South Carolina where there was obviously a race-centered thing happening). Furthermore, Hillary doesn't need pampering from the media in order to keep herself going; Obama, on the other hand, is so unscrutinized by the media, he literally depends on it! His message is flawed from the root and he doesn't appear strong! Hillary in '08.
Posted by: GT | Feb 3, 2008 7:55:20 PM
Obama is just a liberal Bush who is a "uniter, not a divider". The rhetoric is astonishingly identical. We all know what change the uniter brought. Name a single one republican senator that Obama has success with.
Posted by: Paul Green | Feb 3, 2008 7:58:09 PM
The fact that McCain and Hilliary are so chummy makes me sick. He's the LAST guy on the ballot I'm voting for. And Hilliary is the last "Girl." I'd take Cynthia McKinney over her! For God's sake!
Posted by: cba | Feb 3, 2008 9:12:27 PM
michaelinphilly; I think you need to talk with cba. Obama supporters are the worst culprits of insults and intimidation on these posts.
Posted by: irma | Feb 3, 2008 9:20:02 PM
Sour grapes here will not help Hillary. Go read Hillary storys if you want lock-step agreement. Obama rocks California.
Posted by: Rita | Feb 3, 2008 9:45:48 PM
Not only can Hillary not do as good a job at unifying this country as Obama, she will NOT be able to do it AT ALL.
35-40% of this country LOATHES the Clintons. Not just doesn't like but LOATHES them. She is as polarizing as Bush. It doesn't matter that it might not be her fualt the FACT is SHE IS polarizing. She will NOT unify this country in fact as stated she has no WISH to. IN debate after debate she has HARPED on the fact she KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT REPUBLICANS.
That isn't a uniter. It's a liberal version of Bush. One that didn't bother reading the reports and voted to authorize a war because it was politically unfeasible for her not to.
This election will swing based on the middle. Clinton does NOT appeal to the middle. McCain and to a greater extent Obama both do. The nunbers are there and don't lie. Hillary is getting the old base while Obama is going across the spectrum.
You cannot unify a country when your only appeal is to the core base and your only interest is in making history.
Posted by: korey | Feb 3, 2008 9:48:37 PM
You want a republican? How about the former 4 term GOP Gov of Idaho who endorsed and introduced Obama at the rally on Saturday? And it doesn't get anymore RED than Idaho.
Then there's St Hillary of the on demand tears. Somehow I don't think that will work with Putin or the lunatic in N Korea.
I'd take McCain over Billary. At least we woudn't have gridlock which will be gauranteed under Billary.
Posted by: korey | Feb 3, 2008 9:54:31 PM
I asked for a Republican senator that Obama has been successful with. Obviously you can't come up with one. So much for the liberal "uniter".
Posted by: Paul Green | Feb 3, 2008 10:37:06 PM
A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain,especially when it comes to the Iraq war. In the CA debate she said it will take a Clinton to clean up after this Bush,like it took a Clinton to clean up after Bush Sr. Well how could she clean up decisions that she took part in and agreed with.It goes to prove her poor judgements in important issues. The last thing America needs is Hillary or McCain
Obama 08!
Posted by: merle77 | Feb 3, 2008 10:56:58 PM
super bowl party today, many people. shocked to hear republicans voting for Hillary. its shows you she is making a change. If she can convince my friends to vote for her, their is a god. HILLARY IS THE ONLY REAL CHOICE, oh , and B.O. is running a campaign he says he is against, he is full of lies on Hillary record, what a hypocrite!!!!
Posted by: Diann | Feb 3, 2008 11:05:08 PM
Bottom line is that Hillary is not electable in a national election. She and she alone will unite a divided Republican party. There is only one pragmatic candidate who can change the political landscape and that is the Senator from Illinois.
Posted by: Terry | Feb 3, 2008 11:11:56 PM
Obama has already won this election. Popular opinion will see this reality in the next few weeks. The substantial arguments against Obama have been made, and they really aren't substantial at all-he has the ability to lead and the experience in government process and the humanities. His support shows his governmental experience is sufficient, and his work and life experience demonstrate his necessary qualities in dealing with the human issues at stake.
Four years of rule under Obama will not be enough to disable this country. And, if he's 1/4 of the person he claims to be, he'll easily win another 4 years in 2012. Think about a country in 2012 led by either Mccain or Clinton or, even the best GOP choice, Paul...it's not likely to be a better scenario than with Obama.
Posted by: jesse | Feb 3, 2008 11:14:12 PM
so when B.O. loses the nomination, and since he is trying to win on his CHANGE, a uniter, this seems to be very important to B.O. supporters. Then I expect all you people will glady support Hillary on his recommendation? If not then you are following B.O. for the wrong reasons. You would be crazy to vote for mccain, cause he is the total opposite of B.O..what I am saying is look at the issues, not the speech, he is a great talker, he can lead a church group but not a country, we need substance!!
Posted by: Diann | Feb 3, 2008 11:20:19 PM
after watching B.O.campaign these last few weeks, he is no better then a politician that has been in office for 50 years. he is running on lies. check out HILLARYs web site and tell me he is still so perfect.
Posted by: Diann | Feb 3, 2008 11:26:13 PM
Obama co-sponsored and past legislation with Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Dick Lugar (R-IN). For those looking for proof of his ability to work across the aisle, I suggest you talk to Maria Shriver, who is married to the Republican governor of CA and today endorsed Obama. It's a big tent. Clinton supporters - please stop lying. Thanks.
Posted by: benintn | Feb 4, 2008 12:53:08 AM
In a speech given Sunday in Delaware Senator Obama stated: "See, when I am the nominee, John McCain won’t be able....to say that I was unclear about my position on torture because I’ve been absolutely clear we never torture in this country. I can offer a clear and clean break from the failed policies of George W. Bush. I won’t have to explain my votes in the past."
The implication here is that Senator Clinton is either not opposed to torture or that she has been unclear on her position. Since Barack Obama seems not to know the facts here is an New York Times Article that quotes a letter from Senator Clinton on this issue:
"When I opposed the Military Commissions Act in 2006, I made my position clear: torture violates the fundamental rule of law and the institutions of justice, it does not bear reliable fruit in intelligence gathering, and it undermines our moral strength in a conflict that cannot be won solely with military might. It should never be the policy of the United States to torture.
My position has been reinforced and strengthened in recent months by a number of important events. In a December 2006 report commissioned by the Defense Intelligence Agency, a number of leading experts offered evidence that challenged the reliability of information obtained from coercive interrogation tactics.
In April 2007, I met personally with a group of retired Generals and Admirals, seasoned and experienced military officers with many years of experience among them, and they were unequivocal in their view that torture and other official cruelty have no place in U.S. policy. They also said that permitting torture does "grave damage to America ’s moral authority and, by fueling jihadist recruitment, undermines our security."
As I said in September, I could not agree more. Torture "cannot be American policy. Period."
It is quite clear where Senator Clinton stands and how she is opposed to torture (John McCain is too by the way so this was also an unfair attack on him).
I believe that this was the type of politics Obama says he is opposed to and wrote in his book
..."For that is how most of my colleagues, Republican and Democrat, enter the Senate...their words distorted, and their motives questioned."
Perhaps in that case he should not distort Senator Clinton's words on torture nor question what she stands for when it comes to this issue.
Posted by: Bob | Feb 4, 2008 6:29:37 AM
Quote by Obama,October,2002:"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require s US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.I know an invasion without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East and encourage the worst impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen recruitment of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars, just dumb wars." Sounds like better wisdom and judgment than ALL of our elected officials.Why didn't Clinton's "experience" help her see this?
Posted by: Frankie Hodge | Feb 4, 2008 1:18:58 PM
24 years of the SAME 2 Families in the White House. Hillary after the mess of the last 8 years. What a nightmare
Posted by: Jcompton | Feb 4, 2008 2:25:31 PM
What is wrong with Obama. He seems like he is drunk half the time
Posted by: j0hn edwa | Feb 4, 2008 3:47:07 PM
As far as torture, while she did make the quoted statement, she has not said that waterbording is torture (it was established spcifically as a prosecutable offense during WWII). Barack Obama beats John McCain in the general election and beats him handily, especially if he makes Joe Boden his VP, because the election will come down to whether the war continues for an indefinite period of time and cost, or it doesn't, and the majority of the country is clear on that. All McCain can do it try to make us afraid again, and Obama has already shown he can beat that. Clinton might win in a general against McCain but she will never get the cohesiveness to get any kind of agenda through congress. Many in her own party will not support her due to the dirty tricks she has played. Her health care plan won't work and will end up costing the middle class and poor and benefiting the insurance companies who will have no incentive to have better business practices. He has held public office longer than she has, has been an educator and an activist. He believes in the people and knows that he is powerless without them. he is a leader. As far as his vetting in the press, find another candidate that has had his patriotism so slandered, his very identity as an American and loyalty to his country questioned based on flat out lies. Some propogated by the Clinton staffers, who while fired from one field office were moved to another. Without an excplicit denial of the misinformation they forwarded on. It is time for a change and that change lay with Obama.
Posted by: Louis | Feb 4, 2008 4:39:03 PM
Now that the Republican candidate is Mc Cain certain,both Clinton and Obama are feverish. Both feel that they are the right choice. Before the Super Tuesday everything seemed to get heated up. Cool Cool. USA will never change its time tested strategies. I wont be surprised if Mc Cain gets elected as President just to avoid a woman or an African-American entering White House as President.USA is still not mature enough to have a change.
Posted by: Never_Provoke | Feb 5, 2008 1:32:28 AM
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