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Clinton Addresses Ferraro Resignation
March 12, 2008 8:36 PM
ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton received some tough questions from the National Newspapers Publishers Association in Washington -- ranging in subject from former President’s Clinton’s comments about Jesse Jackson to Geraldine Ferraro. For the first time, Clinton addressed Ferraro's departure from her campaign.
“I said yesterday that I rejected what she said, and I certainly do repudiate it," Clinton said. "I regret deeply that it was said. Obviously, she doesn’t speak for the campaign, she doesn’t speak for any of my positions. And she has resigned from being a member of my very large finance committee.”
Clinton spoke in a relaxed and somber tone as she fielded questions from this African American publishers association.
Clinton was told that her husband’s comments about Jesse Jackson were offensive to the African American community and she was asked how she would re-build ties.
“Well, I want to put that in context," she said. "I am sorry if anyone was offended it was not meant in any way to be offensive.”
Clinton added, “I think that we can be proud of both Jesse Jackson and Sen. Obama. People who go into the arena deserve our appreciation because it is not easy being in public life and, especially, running for president. So I think that from the historical context ,the fact that we are all out there and running is very significant. That doesn’t take away from anybody who came before or what we are doing today.”
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This woman is just UNREAL!! Does she think she is fooling anyone, except her supporters? Her campaign has made a habit of sending surrogates out to do their dirty work--this was simply another example. I would not give her my vote to be dogcatcher and certainly not to be the President of the United States! She will DO ANYTHING, SAY ANYTHING, DESTROY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND SET RACE RELATIONS BACK 100 YEARS if at the end of the day, she gets her way and STEALS THE PRESIDENCY!!! She and her campaign are disgusting!
Posted by: J.L. | Mar 12, 2008 8:48:34 PM
To think that Texas and Ohio could have ended this mess a week ago... Hillary Clinton is not the best choice for the democratic party in '08 and to vote for her now is to want the democrats to lose in November. Why TX and OH democrats couldn't see that is beyond me.
Posted by: dem in chicago | Mar 12, 2008 8:59:26 PM
You're right, dem. Now it's up to the PA democrats.
BTW, Barack won the caucuses in TX and, thus, more delegates than HRC.
Posted by: jac13 | Mar 12, 2008 9:09:13 PM
Ferraro is right that we need to address real issues. The media is wrong for quoting her out of context by not showing the content of the speech preceding the statements. This is an obvious media bias for Obama. Ferror is a human rights activist of 40 years. Obama should have been wise enough to watch the whole speech or at least read the transcript instead of assuming the media coverage was in context. Ferraro resigned and Clinton did damage control just the same as Obama did damage control after Powers who was personally insulting Clinton.
Ferraro is not a racist and Obama owes her an apology. Clinton is also not a racist and has been a human rights activist for many years also. They both have documented records and awards for their work. But he is too immature to consider the entire statement or the records of both these woman that has lead to his ability to become a Senator and a candidate for President. He should be thanking them for all the work they have done on behalf of his race and equal rights.
How will he deal with other cultures and foreign leaders who will undoubtedly make actual personal attacks on him? Will he whine and cry like a baby and bomb them out of his immature anger? Will he fail to listen to what other leaders propose in their entirety making things just as bad or worse as Bush has done? His inability to deal with this in a calm, rational, mature manner is very telling of the fear that many Americans have about his claim to leadership. It is not surprising that so many people are stating they will vote for McCain if he is the nominee without Clinton on the ticket because she will be able to prevent him from making rash judgement calls without considering all the facts.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 9:11:19 PM
No Gerri comments were not out of line and she is correct it’s time someone spoke up, there is a perception out there that you should not question anything about Obama, if you mention his past there are problems, use his middle name another problem, put a photo of him it has to be of a certain hue if its too dark you are playing the race card, at every turn there is some nonsensical issue over what you question or what you say about Obama. You have to all stay quiet or be blamed for stirring the race pot.
This man is running for the nominee of the POTUS, and every American black, white, blue or brown has a right to question anything that they are not comfortable with or speak about it. For years we have ridicule our own President called him all kind of names from idiot to dumb, he has been made fun of on every talk show, SNL , stand up comedy show, and we all sit back and get a kick out of it.
Now all of a sudden with Obama we must put on kid gloves not to offend him or the AA, nonsense. When AA comic ridicule Bush in their shows do anyone come out and say respect the man and his office? When Obama’s pastor as I saw on a clip tonight on FOX gesticulates a sexual action to show his congregation what Bill did to Monica and now he is doing the same thing to AA did anyone talk about it, was that not insulting and distasteful also? When Obama’s wife said Hillary cannot even hold he man how can she run the WH what that not an offensive statement that needed the same uproar from all the upright citizens of this land?
I am very happy that someone had the guts to call it as they see it, to say enough is enough. Look at all the comments about Hillary and what wrong is she committing? Should she have to take all that humiliation because she is running against a AA for the democrat nominee position, if she was running against Edwards would it be any different or the rhetoric softer? It is disgustful what is going on, and it sure does not show this election in a good light, if this is the tone that one will get once a AA is running for president, why in heavens name would anyone one to experience this kind of abuse again, or why would any voter want to witness what is going on here ever again.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 12, 2008 9:12:09 PM
Well Dem,
Its because OH voters especially, kinda have the same sentiments Ferraro spoke about. And the Limbaugh dummies ruined TX. Either way, she looses around May 20th with Oregon.
Posted by: ROB | Mar 12, 2008 9:14:15 PM
Obama did not win the delegates from the TX caucus yet. The TX SOS said the votes are still being counted and the processes being investigated and they expect some results by March 29. But the caucus delegates are not relevant because the people of TX voted in the primary and that is what reflects the will of the voters... Clinton hands down. The TX caucus system was designed to control the TX electorate by overriding their primary choice with a limited few caucusing. If you are from TX like myself, you know the details behind why they have both.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 9:14:55 PM
Let's hope that the people in PA are smarter than the ones I have to live with here in Texas. The Latino vote put her over the top here but NO ONE said anything ugly about that! But now she is trying to use the fact that the Latinos support her to get the Super Delegates to give it to her! She said they would not support Obama...IF I were Latino? I don't think I would appreciate ANYONE stating how I would vote! She needs to go away and really think about where she took a wrong turn in the road to the White House and wound up a Republican candidate.
Posted by: Brian | Mar 12, 2008 9:21:14 PM
The latino voters support Clinton because of all the work she has done for human rights and their community. Latino voters are not swayed by race... their primary concerns are the economy, immigration, and support for the troops. She has righted many wrongs that were done by the Bush administration to the latino section of the military deployed from TX and returned there without adequate medical care. There was no racial issue involved. Their vote was based on them believing she is the best candidate on the issues that are important to them.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 9:25:33 PM
the racist side of the democrat party is showing itself now. who would have beleived it woudl be the Clintons and Elite Dems? And now we are faced with being known as the party of corruption, this is about 16 dems now that heve been involved in sex and money scandals, I hate to see what the Clintons are going to be investigated for, they sure are hiding something on their taxes and the 2000 documents they were supposed to release.
Posted by: Steve | Mar 12, 2008 9:35:02 PM
DC Voter: Bill Clinton helped to set up the caucus sytem. It worked for him. Hillary should ask him about it. Furthermore, in my area Northeast San Antonio, eight precincts were all in one area. Nobody left during the 2-1/2 wait. There was no unpleasantness since most of us talked about family, work, etc. since we had all voted in the primaries and our cards checked that we had done so. Packets with precinct numbers were handed out - not with Clinton or Obama labels on them as some have claimed caused a problem to indicate that they do not live in Texas or just rumor mongering. If you had particular problems in your area, then you need to contact the Texas DNC leader to present them or a local official. And, there is some question around here about whether a lot of people who voted in the primary are actually US citizens or just residents and that is a felony offense! I would prefer that every voter in Texas be verified as being a US citizen. I strongly suspect that the results would be very interesting!
Posted by: KiwiTricia | Mar 12, 2008 9:35:26 PM
I Believe the only reason Hillary is a REAL contender is, she's Bill Clinton wife. Without Bill political connections, she would be no where. I also believe that's the reason she stayed with Bill after his affairSSS.
Posted by: False!!! | Mar 12, 2008 9:44:13 PM
Obama DID win the Texas caucas, He recieved 9 more delegates then she. In the Texas primary she recieved 6 monre delegates. He won Texas by 3 delegates. Check CNN.
Posted by: Vanessa | Mar 12, 2008 9:47:03 PM
Kiwi - I am glad you had a good experience. I spoke with my friends and relatives in Dallas and Houston and Austin and the Austin caucuses went ok but the Houston and Dallas ones were big problems. They mentioned some of the same discrepancies noted in the news and many of the problems were caught on video by voters with cell phones and blackberries. I am sure the TX SOS will sort things out eventually.
However, while you may think Bill Clinton had a hand in the caucus design which I am not disputing, that is not the disparity I am referring to. Areas with more registered democrats get a disproportionate number of delegates. Tom Delay and his cronies illegally redistricted TX to reduce the impact of the growing hispanic electorate. Supreme court rulings have already determined that and as far as I could see on the map, it has not been changed back yet. Not a big surprise since the Reps are still in control of the Gov and legislature there. The end result is that most of south and west TX are unfairly represented in elections including the primaries and caucuses because their areas were redistricted based on registered Republicans. The hispanic voting bloc turnout was so large it reduced the impact of the black voting bloc enough to put Clinton over the top. However, the win is more significant than the delegate apportioning shows due to the above.
Any state that holds open primaries and caucuses (like TX) have had their primaries and caucuses tainted by the Republican vote. While Rush wants to take credit for the Clinton win, the analysts have already looked at the result and it was not in favor of Clinton. The cross over republicans participating in the TX dem primaries and caucuses accounted for 9% of the vote. Most of them voted for Obama not Clinton. Reason? Their goal is to keep the dems fighting and that means do what you have to do to keep the races close. It was clear that Clinton would likely win Texas so they tainted it in Obama's favor as much as possible.
The polls are showing the national shift to Clinton.. she gained 2 more points today although statistically it is stil within the margin of error so it is considered a dead heat at the moment. Prior to TX, that wasnt the case. Clinton still has the momentum in spite of all the "election fixing" by past and present actions of the RNC and its voters.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 9:55:05 PM
It's sure nice to see all the racists and sexists in the democratic party on full display. If John McCain backs into the Presidency this fall; the Democrats will have no one else to blame but themselves. But then again you couldn't even beat Bush a second time. With incompetents like Pelosi and Reid as leadship it's no wonder why. The only way Bush and his cronies can succeed is in a vacuum that they themselves have created; And the whole country has to suffer beacuse of them. And on that record of "Accomplishment" they want four years n the White House. The only thing more implausible than a Bush 3rd term; Is a Hilliary 1st. (Or is it 3rd since she was there for all his successes but NONE of his failures.... PLEASE) Give me a Break!!! Hilliary and McCain/Bush are ALL THE SAME!!!
Posted by: cba | Mar 12, 2008 9:58:31 PM
Steve hold your breath. LOL. Clinton is not hiding anything on her taxes. When she reveals them that will knock Obama's claim that there's anything incriminating out the window. So take some breaths man.
Obama ain't gotta clue about how to run this country. He just gives poetry readings. His speeches sound boring now and frankly, afterawhile they ain't that good.
Obama better watch out. He is looking to disenfranchise the voters of FL and MI. What kind of American is that? I hope FL and MI and OH an PA will not go out and vote for Obama if he is the nominee. He's acting like the doesn't need those states, well we'll see come November.
If Obama is so presidential I wonder why superdelegates like Al Gore, Richardson, John Edwards aren't endorsing him. He's int he lead right? They should all be flocking to him, BUT they ain't. They're holding out for Hillary. She might be behind but people still believe in her and knows that she is the better candidate. If she can win PA that's it for Obama. It doesn't matter how many delegates he wins, all that matters is who wins the important states. And that's Hillary by a landslide.
Posted by: takea | Mar 12, 2008 9:59:32 PM
Vanessa - the MSM only projects delegates. The official allocations of delegates have not been made for many states. Try reading news once in a while instead of just blogs or the latest guesses by the media as to who they "think" is ahead in the count. The last state convention is June 29 and all the pledged delegates will not be allocated officially until then. Anything can happen until then.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 10:00:01 PM
Vanessa - the TX caucus isn't finished counting the votes nor are they finished allocating delegates. Get your facts straight girl. Hillary won Texas. Primaries take precedence. Caucuses are not democratic and not representative of actual votes.
Posted by: craft | Mar 12, 2008 10:04:22 PM
I am embarrassed, because I gave Bill Clinton the honorary title of being the First Black President.
I honestly thought in my heart, that he understood the plight of African-American.
I truly thought it from the bottom of my heart.
Wow, I feel duped.
Posted by: Jack | Mar 12, 2008 10:12:43 PM
Jack... don't think Obama is going to look out for you. He hasn't once thanked the black community for voting for him... haha. He's only bringing up race when he needs it like in Mississippi. Obama's got his own agenda for being president, and it's not looking for blacks.
I hope Hillary runs independent or has her own ticket in the November - that will destroy Obama from getting the presidency.
Posted by: thetruth | Mar 12, 2008 10:16:48 PM
I don't know why Hillary Fans can't just admit and Hillary MAY have made a mistake on the Irak War Vote.
To error is human and all......she is human isn't she?
I mean you got 10 of thousand of dead and disabled Americans; even more Irakis, a 3 Trillion Dollar price tag.
You got the lost opportunity costs, i.e., toil and treasure that coulda been spent protecting the nation's infrastructure, chemical plants, nuclear plants, ports, datasystems, etc. You got the negative goodwill throughout the world created by the war.
And UBL is still alive in Pakistan and the Taliban is reconstituting in Afghanistan.
This is not rocket science folks. Even Senator Colburn-OK has admitted that invading Irak may not have been a good idea.
Any takers?
Could HRC have made a mistake?
Naw. Couldn't have happened.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 12, 2008 10:23:05 PM
thetruth - dont forget Clinton won the coast of Mississippi... remember the areas devastated by the Hurricane that the Bush administration failed to help? Both of the Clinton's worked hard to help victims and they remembered. It is nice to see some people are not swayed by race and pay attention to the real records and proposals of the candidates on the issues that matter.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 10:25:26 PM
I'm sick & tired of David Axelrod and company using the race card at every opportunity. Obama stands above the fray and then Axelrod and surrogates do the dirty work. Why have they spent so much time trying to discredit Bill Clinton and his entire presidency? Bill Clinton appointed the following people to his cabinet: Ron Brown, Sec of Commerce, African American, Alexis Herman, Sec of Labor, African American, Hazel O'Leary, Sec of Energy first term, African American, Bill Richardson, Sec of Energy, second term, Hispanic, Henry Cisneros, Sec of Housing & Urban Dev, Hispanic, Donna Shalala, Sec of Health & Human Services, Madeline Albright, Sec of State, Janet Reno, Attorney General, Joselyn Elders, Surgeon General, African American and Vernon Jordan headed the Clinton Transition Team, African American
Posted by: Faith | Mar 12, 2008 10:27:42 PM
Well I take back my earlier post. It was heartfelt and conciliatory. Like can't we all come to some agreement. Well I just watched Keith Olberman and I don't feel that it wil now be possible. He as much said that Hillary was a racist and Bill too. Well thats just too much for me to take. I have been a democrat my whole life and have taken pride in the fact that I would never vote for someone with an R in front of their name. I am so outraged at his race baiting that I will now vote for John McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination. It is the only way that those of us who support Bill and Hillary Clinton can show that we are as mad as hell and not going to take it anymore!
Posted by: russell | Mar 12, 2008 10:28:04 PM
I don't expect Obama to look out for me, that is not the reason I will vote for him.
Obama will look out for the American people. As a President, Obama only has four or eight years to accomplish a lot of things. I know in my heart, that Obama will do his best to accomplish what he can for the American people.
Posted by: Jack | Mar 12, 2008 10:29:01 PM
dont forget to point out that Obama still has not apologized for his wife's inappropriate remarks implying Hillary Clinton is at fault for Bill cheating even though he repudiated his military surrogate for it he has not fired him. In fact, that surrogate once again attacks Clinton personally because she is a woman and implies a man needs to be answering the redphone at 3 am... Obama says nothing... voters should be outraged at the sexism Obama continues to abide by and allow... including that of his own wife.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 10:29:20 PM
DCVoter - that's great, but it pales in comparison to the rest of the state who ignored that fact where 90+% of blacks voted for Obama who had no hand in helping the Katrina victims. Like I said, Obama won't be out there looking out for the blacks who voted for him, he has his own agenda. Has he even thanked the black community who voted for him? Stop voting for him because he's black.. make intelligent assessments of the two candidates and vote for the better candidate who has the best vision for our country not the best speeches and poetry readings.
Posted by: thetruth | Mar 12, 2008 10:31:29 PM
I am amazed how so many people will use every excuse to support their own prejudiceness.
It's not Obama, Michelle, Hillary or Ferraro's fault, it is you. It is the way you feel deep down.
Admit it.
Posted by: Jack | Mar 12, 2008 10:32:21 PM
DCVoter,
I never said that I was voting for Obama because he was black. Why can't it be because of his qualifications.
That is the deep-rooted racism that I speak about.
In your mind, there is no way Obama can be qualified. It HAS TO BE because he is black. Your words are similar to Ferraro's.
Shame!
Posted by: Jack | Mar 12, 2008 10:38:03 PM
Yes is't it nice how Keith Olberman can with a straight face call Bill and Hillary Clinton racists at the same time his partner Chris Matthews makes sexist statements about Hillary and how David Shuster says that they are "pimping out" their daughter . Where is the outrage about these comments Mr. Olberman? Where is the special comment on Ms Powers and all the other nasty comments about the clintons? It seems that Mr. Olberman just became the worse person in the world for his race baiting!
Posted by: russell | Mar 12, 2008 10:41:56 PM
HILLARY HAS MADE A MISTAKE WHEN VOTING TO GIVE BUSH, THE DECEIFUL, THE POWER HE DID NOT AND DOES NOT DESERVE. OBAMA WAS RIGHT FIRST. BUT HIS THREE VOTES TO FUND THE WAR HE WAS SO PROUD TO OPPOSE BELIE HIS TRUE CONVICTION AND ABILITY TO STAND FIRM IN WHAT HE BELIEVES. IF HE IS AS SMART AS HE IS LED TO BELIEVE, HE SHOULD KNOW THAT "SUPPORT THE TROOPS" IS AN OXMORON, A TWISTED PHRASE DESIGNED TO SCARE PEOPLE FOR BEING "UNPATRIOTIC" IF THEY DON'T VOTE TO FUND THE WAR CONTINUOUSLY. WITH OBAMA'S INTELLIGENCE, HE SHOULD KNOW THAT THE ONLY WAY TO "SUPPORT THE TROOPS" IS TO BRING THEM HOME AND OUT OF HARM'S WAY BY NOT GIVING ANYMORE MONEY TO THE WAR EXCEPT WHAT WAS NEEDED TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME. OBAMA WAS RIGHT FIRST, BUT HE WAS WRONG, DEAD WRONG SUBSEQUENTLY. HE IS NOT AS SMART OR UPRIGHT AS HE IS MADE OUT TO BE IF HE WAS SCARED INTO FUNDING THE WAR AND DARED NOT STAND HIS GROUND.
Posted by: NOSO | Mar 12, 2008 10:43:22 PM
Jack did you read what he said!!!!
Posted by: GHM | Mar 12, 2008 10:44:41 PM
I compared the qualifications of the candidates based on their resumes, voting records, accomplishments, activities, and awards without using any of the First Lady years for Clinton. She is clearly more qualified than Obama.
I listened to the speeches of both (actually listened while reading the closed captioning since I am legally deaf) and Obama is a "preacher type" and Clinton is an "information type" in terms of how they speak. I am not inspired by words without action. I am inspired by words with actions behind them. Obama missed his calling as a televangelist. LOL In time, if he is vetted ok on the Rezko issues, I think he can mature and gain experience that might make him qualified.
When you are the board of directors and the stockholders representatives, and you need to hire someone to head up the company/organization, you dont hire the one who "interviews" well if they dont have the strongest credentials of the available short list candidates. If you do, then you are taking unwise risks.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 10:46:40 PM
Was it not racial fearmongering when Mr. Obama said at the debate in Ohio that he accepted the fact that Hillary had nothing to do with the distribution of a public photo of him in african garb. Then he goes down to MS and tells a mostly black audience that she was responsible for it. He implied that she was smearing a black man. He say one thing to the people of Ohio and the country and another one to his black supporters in Ms in order to get them all worked up. That is racism at its worse!
Posted by: russell | Mar 12, 2008 10:51:42 PM
I refer to Will and Carlton as Will and Carlton. I dont refer to either of them by race.
I have friends and family who are black, white, hispanic, spanish, cuban, dominican, haitian, puerto rican, german, irish, jewish, french, italian, catholic, buddhist, ... and the list goes on. But we are all Americans first and we all agree with Ferraro because we listened to what she said instead of watching a media sound byte quoted out of context. We also agree with the statistical disparities in these elections based on expert analyses along with our own. Our education ranges from high school to doctorate but all of us are intelligent voters who care what happens in the world not just America. Our loyalties are not to any political party but to our country. For now we choose between two dem candidates and hope to vote for the best one and not against the worst one. In November, the same will be true. In a race between Clinton and McCain, her choice of running mate is irrelevant to us because she is her own woman and will win our vote. In a race between Obama and McCain, our vote depends entirely on his choice for running mate and the outcome of the Rezko trial.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 11:00:14 PM
JACKSON, MISS. -- Barack Obama continued to go after Hillary Clinton this evening, accusing her of using “Republican tactics” against him.
“When in the midst of a campaign you decide to throw the kitchen sink at your opponent because you’re behind,” he said, “and your campaign starts leaking photographs of me when I’m traveling overseas wearing the native clothes of those folks to make people afraid, and then you run an ad talking about who’s going to answer the phone at three in the morning, an ad straight out of the Republican playbook, that’s not real change.”
Tonight's comments were the most direct criticism from Obama regarding the distribution of the photo of him in traditional African garb. The Clinton campaign denied having anything to do with the photos when they were initially published, and the issue seemed to have faded until Obama brought it up tonight.
The two Democratic contenders have ramped up the rhetoric in recent weeks. Last Thursday, Clinton’s campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson accused Obama of using “Ken Starr”-type tactics, alluding to the independent counsel that led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton. The Clinton campaign was upset about Obama’s camp pushing reporters to ask about the Clinton’s tax returns. The Obama campaign called those allegations “absurd.”
A large crowd of mostly supporters booed whenever Obama mentioned Clinton’s name. As he often does, Obama began his criticism of Clinton by expressing his respect for her. However, despite the polite introduction, he quickly turned on her, saying that she accepts money from lobbyists, wavered on NAFTA, and is part of the status quo in Washington.
“Everybody always asks 'well, how come you haven’t already wrapped this up? Well, it’s because there are a lot of very powerful people who are doing very well under the existing system,” he said. “So they resist. They’ve got power and they’ve got money. But what we’ve got are the American people.”
Posted by: russell | Mar 12, 2008 11:00:57 PM
Who really cares about Ferarro when our country is at War, our economy is going down the drain, and we have a candidate who is running for President who claims to have used cocaine on a regular basis?
I cannot justify voting for Obama, especially after seeing the stories on ABCNews, FoxNews, and other Internet sources
Posted by: Peter | Mar 12, 2008 11:05:07 PM
What Obama need to do now is to explain to AA adn whites how come it is that eleven Rezmar buildings were in the state Senate district Obama represented between 1996 and 2004.
Many of the buildings ended up in foreclosure, with tenants living in squalid conditions without heat in winter, dirty and dilapidated.
Is this what he is offering to give us if he happens to become President, Obama really needs to step up to the plate and start to answer some of these question as to how all this went unnoticed by him when he was in the senate, or did he turn a blind eye because of his friendship to Rezko.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 12, 2008 11:05:15 PM
yes russell - i saw that and was not shocked actually... he has done the race baiting all along since his wife started it last year during the speeches and interviews when she said "Black America will wake up"...
And Jack? it seems you and others are assuming I am male or hispanic LOL I intentionally do not reveal race or gender online because it generally leads to preudicial assumptions just like that... based on your posts I have read over the past few weeks, it was clear to me that you support Obama which is your right... I did not mean to imply you in particular support him because of race... my statements are based on "group" support by race because the numbers indicate it based on the shift of the black voting bloc and the pressure on black SDs to switch to Obama based on race
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 11:06:41 PM
HILLARY CLINTON handled this whole matter with sheer class. I give her an A+. This is a good example of what it takes to be a star quality President, and Commander-in-Chief. You take appropriately measured steps and speak with clarity as to your reasoning. It's about leadership a skill that HILLARY certainly shines at. This is a good lesson for some of the cro magnons that are chortling for blood on this blog.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 12, 2008 11:10:29 PM
It seems that the far left in this party are turning to McCarthyites. When McCarthy wanted to get his political opponets he simply called them a communist. That was enough to destroy their careers and make them look unamerican. Well it seems that the Obama campaign and Keith Olberman have decided to use racism as a substitute for communism. Thus it is not enoung to beat your opponet. Oh no these people want to destroy their enemies by calling them a racist. Have They No Shame?
Posted by: russell | Mar 12, 2008 11:15:06 PM
Obama's campaign is a witch hunt. Ferraro's words were taken totally out of contest. This kind of paranoia has now pushed me against ever voting for Barrack again.
Posted by: Trustmiracles | Mar 12, 2008 11:17:30 PM
Heya WestCoastMessenger - yes she did damage control efficiently which is presidential... although I still agree with Ferraro based on the entire speech not the little sound byte.... It is unfortunate Clinton is being forced to walk the fine line but... that is a reality she faces with every foreign government... her experience in foreign relations is clear... aint it funny how things work out?
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 11:19:14 PM
commanderguy: I think Hillary did say in the last debate that if she could vote over she would not have voted for the war. It does not matter to all the Hillary haters that John Kerry voted for the war and Obama voted for Kerry. If Kerry can be forgiven why can't Hillary? It seems that Obama wants to do to Hillary what Yeltsin did to Gorbachov force her to sign some statement that she was wrong and rub her nose in it.
Posted by: russell | Mar 12, 2008 11:46:09 PM
LOM - actually I have always seen Pat Buchanan as a moderate republican who leans conservative.. much like McCain although Buchanan is not so pro-military... I tend to base opinions on voting records more than sound bytes when it comes to candidates
in previous campaigns, Pat was party loyal and tried to present himself as more conservative... now Bay Buchanan whoo that is the real conservative... there are stark contrasts between Pat and Bay in their political analyses.. dont you think?
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 11:48:32 PM
CG - i know it is hard for you to keep up and relate all the posts instead of trying to take a post out of context... the discussion relates to the effect racism and sexism is having on the voters... the Mississippi results directly support Ferraros assertions... this has nothing to do with red vs. blue
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 11:52:03 PM
I am not silent on any issue in this election including the 2002 authorization vote in the Senate. I do not have a problem with any of the votes yay or nay. I have a problem with the lies given to the Senators and the unconstitutional pre-emptive invasion of Iraq. This is a non-issue for me with respect to the dem candidates.
Perhaps you perceive silence CG because you never know when I am around or which posts I have time to read. LOL
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 12, 2008 11:56:22 PM
I don't have a problem with her Iraq vote either. She stated in her speech on the Senate floor that it was the hardest decision she had to make.
The nation was deeply wounded with her state being the hardest hit and she eloquently stated, "In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am."
That is action with conviction, standing up with the courage to respond to the needs of her constituents. Our President was enjoying some of highest ratings ever and was calling on all Americans to be united in our efforts to defend our country and eradicate terrorism.
Fast forward to 5 1/2 years later and it's easy to say hindsight's 20/20 and I told you so. I commend her for standing up then and I commend her for recognizing that it has been poorly managed by the Bush administration. She has outlined what she will do on her first day in the White House to bring our troops home. This is action.
Posted by: LOM | Mar 12, 2008 11:56:54 PM
i havent heard that russell... got a link or something?
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 13, 2008 12:16:16 AM
I think most Americans know that is a bunch of BS. My sister is an educated liberal latte voter who supports Clinton. She maintains these kinds of extremists views are never taken seriously by Academia or Government. Why are the media even covering them? - to sell advertising real estate - higher ratings translate into more dollars for ads. Welcome to the rank of National Enquirer MSNBC and CNN!
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 13, 2008 12:45:39 AM
Jack, saying you're voting for Obama because you know "in (your) heart" he will be a good President, isn't exactly laying out your knowledge of the issues. Also, just because you spoke to "some" Latinos, doesn't mean you are now an expert on Latino ways of thinking.
Posted by: irma | Mar 13, 2008 12:58:45 AM
This is a non-apology apology. She did not apologize for the comments. She is not distancing herself from Ferraro who will still be working on fund raising for her campaign. This is not a single comment from a single conversation that the woman made, she has been making virtually the exact same comment on radio, and in interviews for over two weeks, this is clearly another tactic. They were probably wondering why it was taking so long to go national.
Posted by: Louis | Mar 13, 2008 2:36:38 AM
"First of all left me say I'm sorry people thought it was racist. But part of the problem is -- and I'm a person really who has fought discrimination for 40 years so I am absolutely offended by the emails, the phone calls and all the threats I have been getting; it’s really terrible and it’s come out of the Obama campaign. David Axelrod who knows me better, should not have gotten this whole campaign going.
All they had to do was take a look at what I actually said and what I actually said before I made that comment and that was in response to a question at a paid speech, I was not representing Hillary, I'd been in Michigan, the night before, two nights before with Bill Kristol arguing presidential politics; I get paid for doing that, no connection with the campaign. I got up and the question was asked 'why do you think Barack Obama is in the place he is today?' with all these candidates, with all these delegates and stuff...
..."I've said this, if I've said it once I've said it 20, 30, 50, 100 times since the 84 campaign. If in 1984 my name was Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro, I would never have been the nominee for V.P." - Geraldine Ferraro
It is obvious to me that the Obama campaign and the MSM intentionally quoted Ferraro out of context to add fuel to the fire. More race-baiting from the Obama camp. Sad thing is - the Mississippi results support Ferraro's assertions.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 13, 2008 2:56:58 AM
Ferraro has always been too smart for her own good. I remember her as a VP candidate... very smart BUT she had that fatal flaw of brainiacs. She assumes her listener is as smart as she is... she needed to be more subtle and guarded in her approach. While I would not put words in her mouth since I don't know her, what I think she was trying to convey is this: "would he have generated this much excitement if he were white. I rather think not."
The words in quotes were actually said by Black Conservative Professor Shelby Steele this past weekend during an interview. But since "black" and "conservative" cancel each other out, he hardly registers a blip on the media's radar. BUT when a white liberal says this, it is obviously a racist slur.
We've got 40 days and nights before Penn Primary... why not talk frankly and openly about race and gender/sex during a debate? Quite frankly, I think I'll plotz if they re-hash healthcare again.
PS - I'm obviously a racist for even mentioning this so no need to call it out. ;-)
Posted by: smartprimate | Mar 13, 2008 4:59:35 AM
DCVoter
You are kidding again?
Obama should apologize to Clinton?
I have said over and over that I do not think it was racist but I do think that it was either
1. dumb and should have apologized for misspeaking
or 2. them coming to close to "playing the race card again" for tactical purposes
I hope that it is number 1.
The guy was the Presdient of the frakin Harvard Law review and his accomplishments not to mention his speech are acceptional no matter what race...
Race plays a facto just like gender because people who have similar attributes, yes vote toward that attribute...
but Just as many people in this country vote against that attribute...it is a moot point and she either knew it (and that would be tactical) or she didn't (which is just plain dumb).
Either way if someone turns this around, especially after the whole "monster" thing...and says suddenly the Obama folks should apologize...
Boy... I don't think I have to say anything else... that's ...a tiger showing their stripes and most people reading these postings suddenly see there is a lot of mischief going on from one side...and the other is just reacting over and over.
She should have just apoloigized...as a democrat ...she should have just aologized. She has been a polotician for a very long time (I think from Wolfson's message this morning you can tell he even knows this) and it is amazing she doesn't realize what it would do if she said to anyone that he would "absolutely not" be in the position he is in if he weren't black...
If yuo look at his resume, hear his speeches, see how he connects with the future of America (the youth)in massive numbers, see that the candidates have similar policies... and he got up with a large microphone when no one else for the most part was and saying "don't go down that Path it's the wrong path"
It is not because a black man is saying it...god knows racism brings enough into the equation (just like sexism) to set him back from any of those positives...
There is one side who just needed to make an apology...that is what this party is about and it was fair criticism. Instead after attacking on the word "monster", the person who said it got defiant and attacked back and the campaign that had been screaming at being called a "monster" (which in my opinion was wrong, 5th grade but is about the individual...just like her) didn't care that this misstatement or whatever it was...may hurt or be hurtful to some voters...not just the candidate.
...and that is sad.
You asking for an apology fromthe Obama campaign is the sign of someone playing "a game".
Posted by: dl | Mar 13, 2008 8:18:55 AM
I'm so glad to see that great comment byjac13 | Mar 12, 2008 ... I totally agree with this article. We have already had to live with an administration that if anyone that spoke against it we were accused of being "unpatriotic" !! Do we really want to live with another four years of being afraid that we will be "racist" if we don't agree with Obama. What has happened to us that we are afraid of free speech! We all spend to much time trying not to offend other cultures and groups that we are not able to open our mouths! It seems that it's okay for Oprah or Obama to call us racist, crackers or whatever the new generation words are now, but let someone call them on it and we are the ones that are called racist!
I try to stay neutral as far as race and gender is concerned for the most part but when it's okay of blacks to call names, have black only clubs,etc or religions to want women to be home in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant and to OBEY.. her husband... well that's just a hard nut to swallow!
So though it sounds racist... I for one don't want to have to walk on egg shells for yet another 4 years. I won't elect a president because Oprah says so or because he's black. I have always voted democrat but I will vote republican before I will vote for Obama.Anyone that says he's not prejudice is fooling themselves, look at his church and family history.
Posted by: M LH | Mar 13, 2008 8:22:40 AM
Ferraro is right about both Obama and Jesse Jackson. Neither of their campaigns would have made it very far without the rampant identity politics of the Democratic party. However, she conveniently omits herself from the list of inexperienced, unsubstantial, or radical candidates who are “protected” from valid criticism by hiding behind race or gender.
In ‘88, Jesse was an outspoken anti-Semite and race-baiter who never held any political office. In ‘08, Obama brings three whole years of almost invisible Senate experience and a big bag of fluff called “hope and change” to the national debate. Likewise in ‘84, Ferraro was an unknown congresswoman with six years in political office, and a crooked husband with mob ties.
Posted by: carl | Mar 13, 2008 8:27:12 AM
M LH
He is racist against white people? Have you seen his mother?
He is half white.
This is not a case of overdone political correctness...it is about respect for different people's characteristics...she said he would "absolutely" not be where he was if he was not Black...
One more time...
He was the Presdient of the Harvard Law Review! there have been , what, a hundred in the past century? He has 11 years working with the Pasing of Bills and Laws and regulations and funds...
He is young and vivacious and charming...
he taught constitutional law.
and he's a brainiac...and brave enough to stand up on a VERY unpopular position (in the middle of a campaign for senate) but one that he felt right about saying "Don't go down this path"
Here is a man who went to help out people who had lost their jobs from factory closings instead of walking away from his awards and recognitions at Harvard to any High Paying Law Firm or Government Position he could have.
A man whose first big issue in the National spotlight was about government reform.
and probably the biggest issue ...he and his message connects with the vibe coming out of the future of our country ...the youth... in a way that people say they wish they could bottle it...
and he is one of the best public speakers I have ever heard, not seen... in my lifetime... even with my eyes shut.
...and she discounted all of that... because of one attribute of his life...she said this one attribute is the be all and end all of his campaign... He is not special other than...is because of the color of his skin?
Are you all telling me that because black people voted for him...that outweighs any racism left in this country. I am white ...I know what racism still exists... albeit clasism described as racism much of the time.
That is not political correctness to a horrible degree. That is some moron who wants people to pay attention to the candidate they like best and goes for the answer that is most simple to win people over...explain it all those things I listed away by his race.
If you don't vote for Obama because people don't want that type of issue used to discount a candidate becuase it is stupid, perhaps tactical (I hope not) and at worst could come from an uh,...unself-aware ethnocentrism....(and I am a blue collar guy so that is a hard word to come up with).
Well you are thinking from a place you should be.
Posted by: dl | Mar 13, 2008 10:03:28 AM
I thought my comment on "reflection" was quite clear.
I *do* have an open mind when listening to *all* the candidates. Though it sounds like you and many others would rather follow inexperience then to be relisitic about world events. I have yet to hear Obama say anything that gives indication that he would know what he's doing or would do.
There is the saying "if it seems to good to be true". Perhaps his supporters should look much deeper before trusting him with our country's welfare.
Posted by: M LH | Mar 13, 2008 12:41:42 PM
All I know, M LH, is that there are TWO current feature pieces (Time and McClatchy) calling into direct question (if not refuting outright) Mrs. Clinton's claims of alleged "experience" as First Lady.
Upon reviewing them, perhaps it'll be you who realizes he/she needs to become a bit more realistic about those to whom you're so willingly prepared to entrust your vote....
NO ONE who hasn't already served as presiden, is "prepared" to BE president. NO ONE. That's a bunch of Clintonesque hot-air. And being First Lady no more prepared Hillary for being president than marrying John Lennon made Yoko Ono a Beatle.
Posted by: adam | Mar 13, 2008 1:02:35 PM
So you say, Adam. You should give it more thought.
Posted by: mlh | Mar 13, 2008 2:29:06 PM
Indeed I DO say, mlh. Indeed I do.
Posted by: adam | Mar 13, 2008 3:02:29 PM
I don't believe that Geraldine Ferraro is a racist. I also don't remember hearing anyone call her a racist. I do believe that her comments were racial and disparaging.
The implication was that Obama was a candidate only because he is black ... dismissing the fact that he is also a U.S. Senator, a former Illinois State Legislator, a community organizer, a Constitutional scholar, a former president of the Harvard Law Review, a Harvard Law graduate. No, Ferraro seemed to be saying, he was simply a token like she says she was in 1984.Thus, those who support him were doing so for the same reason. Had someone said that Hillary Clinton was only in the race because she was once the "First Lady", that would have been sexist and disparaging.
To those of you who keep trying to sell the myth that you are somehow prevented from talking about the Obama campaign (or anything to do with black people) get over yourselves. This is America … you know you can say whatever you want. It sounds like you want some special privilege that exempts you from criticism or disagreement.
Have you ever heard of “White Privilege”? I define it as never having to wonder if something that is either said or happens (good or bad) is a function of your race. Must be nice.
Posted by: openly black | Mar 13, 2008 5:38:25 PM
Geraldine Ferrero looks like she's drunk and talks like shes high, the truth is Hillary came in 3rd in Iowa and would have already lost to John Edwards had the 2 of them been in a one on one match up. She should thank god for Obama running in this election, it allowed her to play the race card which has been her saving grace and is the only reason she's still in the running. By the way let me be the first to say congradulations to president McCain, as he will easily trounce Hillary in the general election, after all she won't be able to use her lame scare tactics and most importantly she won't have the race card to play.
Posted by: fool me once | Mar 14, 2008 9:40:19 PM
Obama's executive experience is weak--frequently voting 'present' on tough issues seems vaguely political instead of truly being a state's representative and having a backbone. His wife seems scarier than Hillary when our nation almost got national socialized health care shoved down our throats. Guilty by association with people like Rezko or his pastor of 20yrs.?? Well, if he knows the Bible, then I'm sure he's read the verse about how 'we become like those we hang around.' Not sure who is going to raise taxes more or play the race card more effectively...should have left the governor from New Mexico have a shot without spending 100 billion dollars to buy an election.
Posted by: jdkksjsc | Mar 14, 2008 11:09:05 PM
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