BKMC_Are you speaking on behalf of the Obama campaign? And if so why not come right out and speak plainly that YOU want to disenfranchise two states, FL and MI. YOU want to give those two states to the republicans even before the general begins? Is this your position?

LA in Indiana,
Would that be a theft of the nomination because somehow OBAMA owns my Democratic vote. Stealing an election is when you DO NOT COUNT the votes. Remember Gore, 2000. That was a stolen election. Good Democrative votes were NOT counted. It is somehow honorable for OBAMA to do the same? This is the same United States that Reverend Wright is free to hate, it is one where VOTES MUST COUNT for the union to stand.

If you're going to call the man a liar, at least get the story straight that you're referring to.
Newsmax and Kristol already tried that 'he was there' crap. Only to find out he wasn't, but the TRUTH is never told after these disingenuous stories.

Obama was not in the church during the 2 (or 3) soundbites that you all keep referring to. Its funny how these 2 or 3 soundbites then blossom into 20 years of sermons. If you really want to know the truth, actually listen to the sermons. But don't just comment on distortions and innuendo.
These couple of soundbites is not what was preached in this church for 20 years.
If we're going to argue about this issue, stop watching foxnews and lets at least make it an intelligent argument.

Dogsoldier, the rules re votes in Fl and MI were not established by Obama and his campaign. Therefore it is not correct to think that Obama want to disenfranchise voters in Fl and MI, you are talking as a member of the Hillary campaign. Nobody should change the rules of a game in the middle of a game, that is simple to understand, that is fairness.OBAMA08.

ok, I'll bite....
wcm, how is Obama stealing your vote?

Hillary is sooooo full of it!
If we let Michigan do it again, they'll be the first state to break the rules 4 yrs from now!

I guess we know who incites breaking the rules!

BKMC-You did not answer my question. Do you want to throw FL and MI to the republicans? Simple answer to a simple question, yes or no?

FL and MI have a way of being seated, according to the DNC rules. Folks who say the rules are the rules are absolutely correct, and as such, there is a path that these two states can take to be seated.

To be compliant with party rules:
a. They could hold second nominating contests
b. They can appeal to the DNC's credentials committee

What MI and FL have proposed are NOT breaking any rules. Both sides should recognize that and not disenfranchise the voters of these states since they have made it clear that they do want their votes to count.

Those who are trying to peg Senator Clinton as the "do anything to win" candidate is right to a certain extent...you need to add "...back the White House with a Democratic President" to the end of your statement. That is what is really at stake.

I find it ironic that so many Obama supporters like to spout how he is ahead in the delegate count, states and popular vote. What do you have to worry about then?

The republicans are enjoying the best of all possible worlds. They have Reverend Wright who will speak for them and they have a democratic part helping them to win by throwing FL and MI to them without a fight. They have Samantha Powers, Obama's policy adviser, who call the people of Ohio stupid for voting Hillary. Another state leaning for McCain. And we have a party fighting to exclude FL and MI. Yep. Indeed Democrats do invent new ways to shoot ourselves in the foot in new and more improved ways every election.

LOM,
Well said. I've decided to switch my vote back to Clinton. It's much easier to align with good logic.
HILLARY CLINTON 2008

The problem with any statement Hillary makes is that she simply is not credible. If the tables were turned, she would be refusing to agree--if she thought it was to her advantage in the race for the nomination.

This is why the idea of her as president is detestable and repelling to me. I want to be able to believe what the president says. In Hillary's case, this is impossible.

The rules are the rules.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Unpledged delegates can vote their independent judgment so don't cry foul if a majority of them vote for Senator Clinton.

The rules are the rules...

WCM,

Phew. Welcome back.

wcm, do you really think she will win?

The republicans will come out of the woodworks to vote against putting the clintons BACK in the white house.
And she won't have my vote, that's for sure.

Hillary, you're a cheat ... plain and simple. You say one thing and do another ... you believe the rules don't apply to you. I don't care if there is a re-vote in Michigan. What I care about is your audacity of dishonesty, dishonor and lack of integrity. Who ... WHO votes for a person who blatantly flaunts these character traits? It will be people who don't want change ... that's who. People who like the corrupt system and the corrupt people running it and want it to stay just exactly like it is. They wouldn't know how to function any other way. Change is a threat to them. Can it be any clearer than Hillary Clinton's machinations through this process?

Despite all the inconsistencies that come out of HIllary's mouth, there is one reliable way of repdicting what she will say and do. You just have to figure out whether it promotes her personal interests in glory and power. If it does, she will say it or do it. If it does not, she wont.

The American people will always be second to the above logic. Hillary first Americas second. Hillary first, the Democratic Party second.

WestCoastMessager, reading polls is part of old politics: acting based on polls and focus groups reports, Obama wants to turn that page. OBAMA08.

Ac-Does the name Reverend Wright and Obama enter into your logic? This is what Obama said about Don Imus: "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids," he concluded. Well, would this be the same Obama who sat HIS kids down in Wright's church? Is this the same Obama who demanded Don Imus be fired. What did Obama demand of Wright? Oh, right, understand him. Sounds like two different set of rules to me.

Obama will not win a general election by turing his back on voters in Michigan and Florida.

The point of the nomination is to win the white house.

Obama and his supporters seem to have lost sight of this overriding reason for these primaries in the first place.

Not allowing both of these states to have their elections count is political suicide.

Ther DNC needs to step in and stop this and encourage the Michigan revote.

HOw exactly is it cheating to count votes???

Sorry I'm missing somethign there?

The DNC is in the business of winning elections.

They will seat these delegations in Aug if they want even a hope of winning the white house.