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Dems Say Primary Not Self-Destructive ...Yet
March 05, 2008 11:33 AM
ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf Reports: As the Democratic presidential nomination contest lumbers toward a draw to be decided by superdelegates, one notable superdelegate and key Clinton backer on Capitol Hill, Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-NY, said the drawn-out process for Democrats is not destructive… yet.
But, he echoed calls recently by Democrats on Capitol Hill for the presidential candidates themselves to resolve the nomination long before the Democratic convention in August.
Schumer, who in addition to his support for Clinton, is in charge of Democrats' efforts to pad their slim majority in the Senate. Infighting that jeopardizes the ability of a Democrat to become president next November will have ramifications in Congressional and Senate elections as well.
But today, Schumer was very Zen, talking about twists and turns and ups and downs.
"One thing you know in this world… people yesterday who read all the pundits: 'Oh its going to be over.' This thing takes twists and turns you can never predict and never imagine. And so anybody who predicts this is a very close. This is a 51-49 election in either case. And so I think it is much too early to make any kind of predictions," he said.
Later, Schumer said that if there is no clear winner by June 7th, "there will be enormous pressure from party leaders to make sure this does not become self-destructive," Schumer said.
"The bottom line is, again, you can think of 20 different scenarios where one candidate emerges predominant. Some outside factor emerges. Uh, somehow momentum is gained. As I said, this has had several twists and turns. Its gonna have more twists and turns. No one can predict the ultimate outcome."
In the meantime, despite the increasingly sharp language between Clinton and Obama, Schumer said there is not yet any need to worry that their sparring is counterproductive.
"We know that the attack machine is going to go after them in the general election. So to have the strongest candidate battle tested is a good thing and we're not worried about it. Obviously we don't want the fighting to get too sharp-edged, but so far so good," Schumer said at a press conference this morning.
He was supposed to be talking about a bipartisan effort to overhaul the Consumer Product Safety Commission, but all the questions he got from reporters were about last night's results and how Democrats will ultimately emerge with a candidate.
"There's still a good chance one candidate will be the candidate before June 7th," Schumer said, showing that he apparently did not read the mathematical analysis that shows an outright victory for Senators Obama or Clinton less likely.
"If we don't have either candidate having a majority of delegates before June 7th, the candidates together will have to come up with a plan which each buys into ahead of time as to how we determine what's going on in Florida, what's going on in Michigan and what's going on in general," Schumer said.
March 5, 2008 in Tancredo, Tom | Permalink | User Comments (43)
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About the voices arguing for a premature end to this contest, before the Democratic voters' voices have been heard, it's JUST SPIN. Hillary Clinton is just getting started. The competitor is starting to show some cracks with barely any media attention (finally). Let's get one of these two fully battle-hardened for the November contest, where a Democrat will prevail!
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 5, 2008 11:49:09 AM
Oh Really?
Perhaps ABC should direct Mr. Schumer to the forum boards, and he can see exactly how divisive this campaign has been to the party.
Posted by: chicka | Mar 5, 2008 11:50:04 AM
I agree WestCoastMessenger. On with the race for the Dem nominee! People like you and I will continue to educate the new voters about the process being a spirited competition designed to select and prepare candidates to be a competitive nominee.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 5, 2008 12:01:55 PM
Hey "DCVoter", I've heard that rumor that there are paid bloggers from Hillary's competitor, but if there are they are doing a really poor job out here. On the other hand there are many reps of the RNC out here, but I doubt if many are paid, I suspect they are willing volunteers, and do get quite nasty, so there is no oversight going on. All that being said, the Democratic party will unite on a ticket that will be able to defeat the Republicans (as long as they don't cheat).
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 5, 2008 12:04:23 PM
I'm an independent. Obama would have my support in a national election. If its Hillary, then for me - its McCain. Hillary cannot win nationally and she can't win the democratic primary without both more kitchen-sink Karl Rove inspired dirty politics plus superdelegate shenanigans. Hillary Clinton has the same potential right now as Ralph Nader. She can satisfy her egfo and help McCain or get out of the way and help everyone else.
Posted by: Steve | Mar 5, 2008 12:05:36 PM
In a war of negative campaign tactics, Hillary would lose, big time.
Last week, there was not much in the kitchen sink, but there was no counter-attack either.
C'mom, Barack... let's see some of that Chicago street experience... take it to them... we need to see you can defend our hard-earned turf... there will be plenty of opportunity as President to work on the big stuff. First, you have to show you can handle the ruthlessness of the Clintons.
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | Mar 5, 2008 12:11:38 PM
Steve - yes as an Independent that is expected of you (I am independent also but I will not vote for a republican since that party has ruined our country and our world).
The Obama camp strategy has been to grow the Dem electorate, appeal to Indies and disgruntled Reps, and hope to pull enough of the Dem core voters to gain a majority and appear to be a uniter. He has not made a dent in the core and failed as a uniter. Your post only further confirms that.
As an Independent, my vote and my time devoted to this election relates to what I believe is best for our country and our world. I cant know your motivation but you have the right to cast your vote as you believe.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 5, 2008 12:14:09 PM
Clinton's strong suits: experience and national security. How's that going to play out against McCain? And the "red phone" ad? The McCain campaign could have a field day with that one if they so choose.
Posted by: Don | Mar 5, 2008 12:16:58 PM
this still a democrcy and if im not mistaken just because someone does not have a college degree does not mean were stupid,life and raising a family are great colleges.interesting msnbc just had a graph showing that with florida and michigan hillary leads in the popular vote.also if this was a general election the electoral collage count so far would be 263 to 188 big states do count,so grow up,she is the better candidate,also he outspent her 2or 3 to one and couldnt close the deal so i guess he is the better manager.lol
Posted by: don tufts | Mar 5, 2008 12:17:55 PM
Interesting definition here:
Gorgon - any of three sister monsters commonly represented as having snakes for hair, wings, brazen claws, and eyes that turned anyone looking into them to stone.
Using scare tactics wont change my vote or my posts Gorgon. Maybe the younger voters are still scared of monsters or identify with video games. Maybe jack Nicholson oughtta blog with ya. LOL
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 5, 2008 12:23:10 PM
Since Wolfson brought up Rezko a hundred times and won by going negative.
Let's remember just a taste of what is about to come from the "right" now because they opened it up... and why the country moved to the republicans with George W. Bush.
Hillary is a fighter and is still standing after all this and people sell it as a good thing ugh.
Impeachment Hearings
Whitewater
Travelgate
Cattle Futures
Paula Jones Gennifer Flowers Monica Lewinsky
Disbarrment
Missing FBI Files
Marc Rich
Hillary's brother Hugh and the pardons
China and campaign Finance
WalMart Board crap
Norman Hsu
Peter Paul
and it goes on.
Obama won't go there as Hillary says the press hasn't been nice to her. As Hillary throws a fit about her opponent, who has never even broached this subjet matter sent out flyers pointing out an policy issues that were legitimate. A candidate who reprimands his staff if they hint at going negative while her campaign chair is hitting every reporter and news show with "NAFTA-gate" and Rezko. This is all anyone can come up with after a year of searching on Obama.
Oh yes, Hillary's been vetted.
Posted by: David | Mar 5, 2008 12:26:37 PM
LOL David - yes she has been vetted, 40 million dollars of our taxpayer money wasted by the Rep machine and still she is squeeky clean.
Do you really think that Rezko is the only thing that people can find on Obama? Try reading the RNC opposition research press release from June of last year and you will see the RNC is responsible for the negative strategies and that there is much more. Voters are aware of the RNC tactics to divide us.
Even the Dem SDs are saying Obama has been taking too long to address campaign issues and questions of judgement and must answer quickly if he hopes to remain competitive. These primary tactics are nothing and prepare the candidates to be nominees. As I suspected Obama cant hold up "under fire" and Clinton can. We shall see if that trend continues.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 5, 2008 12:31:42 PM
DCVoter you call her squeeky clean. U R kidding right.
Posted by: David | Mar 5, 2008 12:35:03 PM
She's been "tested"? What about McCain and his five and a half years as a prisoner of war?
Posted by: Don | Mar 5, 2008 12:36:28 PM
Self-destructive is right! All OH & TX dems have done is help John McCain. Hillary Clinton will never be president. It going to either be President Obama or President McCain. All OH & TX did is make it more likely to be the latter. Bunch of dummies if you ask me.
Speaking of dummies: simply reiterating Senator Obama's middle name (even in CAPITAL LETTERS), like a broken record, isn't going to defeat him, and isn't even relevant to this debate. Get over it.
Posted by: Dem in Chicago | Mar 5, 2008 12:36:36 PM
The question has been posed about the Democrats, who is winning now? There are two easy answers to this. In number of states won, delegates pledged and campaign strength in decency and honesty - Barack Obama. In ability to smear, twist the truth and generally act as a gutter politician - Hillary Clinton.
When are the Democrats going to wake up to the fact that John McCain will make mincemeat of Clinton in a Presidential election but would have a much more difficult task with someone he can still respect, Barack Obama?
Maybe the question should be, who is losing now? Answer, the Democrats.
Posted by: Brian from Buffalo | Mar 5, 2008 12:36:45 PM
Gorgon: Thanks for the vote smart reference, I will review it. It seems odd to me however that you would discount voting Republican because of their recent and profound transgressions. Isn't it possible that McCain is better than that, that he deserves a fresh look? I agree that Bush was a disaster but well, the country got what they paid for with him. Thinking that an inability to articulate a thought was populist and that ignorance was folksy led the country to follow the single issue extremists into a ridiculous choice (twice). Hillary is old style politics; say anything, try out a stump speech and see how it flies... I wouldn't vote for her...
Posted by: Steve | Mar 5, 2008 12:38:51 PM
Here is what is destructive to the Democratic Party
Michelle Obama says she is finally proud of this country, like there is nothing else to be proud of, because people vote for her husband.
Barack Obama says a little girl should hold her head high and be able to say I am an American.
What are the thinking? If it so great in the middle east, Asia, and Africa, he should move there and run for President.
People do things in those countries much more different than we do.
And by the way Barack, I have never voted for a Republican, always for Democrats.
Lay off the American thing, becuase I am an American before anything else, including religion, ethnicity, or political party affliation. I swear an oath of allegiance to the American flag, not the Democratic Party Banner. I simply identify with them.
Posted by: Brian | Mar 5, 2008 12:42:32 PM
I keep hearing HRC say the "nation" is ready to decide this election now that serious questions have been raised regarding her opponent. I hear her supporters say that the smaller states(where Senator Obama thumped her and the "Maverick") with caucuses/primaries don't matter, "America" has spoken. I guess the "nation" that is ready to decide this election is Penn. and America now only consists of Cali., NY, NJ, Texas, and Ohio as those are the states that matter, because in November Cali, NY, NJ are not going to go to the Democratic nominee (whomever they may be) right? Yeah, one of those smaller states with caucuses/primaries that don't matter would have been so good for Al Gore in 2000, I mean he won Cali, NY, NJ and Penn also in the general. Yeah, that's a solution. Real smart.
Posted by: lynn | Mar 5, 2008 12:43:15 PM
Just for the record, I'm an independent hoping for a change from the Bush/Cheney years. I don't think Clinton can win against McCain on experience, national security, and/or who would make the better commander-in-chief. To beat McCain we need someone willing to unite the American people, someone new and fresh, not the old-style politics as ususal.
Posted by: Don | Mar 5, 2008 12:43:22 PM
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