I think Hillary is being generous by suggesting they re-vote. The Florida delegates should be seated with the votes that have been cast. All the candidates names were on the ballot, and none of the candidates campaigned in Florida as was the agreement. Oh, wait, I forgot that Obama ran those commercials on the cable channels in Florida...

If Clinton had lost Florida, no one would be calling for a do-over.

This woman will do anything and everything to win. She will change the rules in the middle of the game.

She has conducted a negative campaign.

She is a destructive embarrassment.

Not true Saraz: If Obama had won, the delegates and votes still didn't count. A do-over is for the voters of the state of Florida. Mrs. Clinton cannot help that Florida overwhelmingly voted for her over Obama.
This is the only fair way to resolve this issue.
I am looking forward to seeing what Michigan does, especially since Obama ignored them in the first election.

Saraz

It seems to me that Mr. Obama wants the super d's to vote with the electorate. this is not what the rules say either. It seems each candidate will present the arguement beneficial to their own campaign. this hardly constitutes a negative campaign or a destructive embarrassment. Your comment seems more like a rant than anything constructive to add to the debate.

There you go again! Blaming Clinton for all evils including fighting for the right of the people to vote and be counted. Whether this favours her or not, Democrats will lose in Nov. if they fail to act on MI and FL.

It is the only fair thing to do but I'm sure that Plouffe will begin yelling the minute they are done that there was fraud. And since thier already saying they are not going to do well in Pa and Clinton is doing well in getting extra votes from the caucus because he can't get the kids back a second time this is going to be good for Hillary.

This long primary process benefits Hillary. Mr. Obama is like a huge bright fireworks display. It bursts in the night, and all the lookers go Oohh , Ahhh and then it burns out fast and people go about their business, barely remembering what the fireworks even looked like the day after. Meanwhile Old Hillary trudging along stays in the public eye, and finally captures the nomination at the convention.

It sounds like a reasonable plan, with the return env's, one ballot and all. So does the voter need to come in with the ballot that was mailed to them? In any case, I thought Obama co-sponsored a "mail-in voting" bill? Are you sure he's against it? I would think that he would support it. Weird....

Obama should be thanking Ferraro and both of the Clintons for all the hard work and sacrifice they have done in the interest of human rights and civil rights for people of all races. Their work contributed to the possibilities and opportunities he has had including his run for the nomination. He should be embracing the wisdom to speak out and face hard facts. He should denounce and reject any lack of cooperation his camp is exhibiting that leads to disenfranchising the rights of all voters of all races in all states. In fact, he should fire Axelrod and Plouffe!

There should be no do-overs and
neither state should be rewarded for violating the rules by allowing them to
have an important role now!
The Michigan vote should not be counted
at all since only Clinton's name was on the ballot! Florida's vote should not be counted because many voters stayed home thinking that their votes wouldn't count!

FLORIDA RE-VOTE, this is a train that cannot be stopped. Howard Dean has indicated that he wants to see the Florida delegates seated, he has not publicly opposed a re-vote, and he knows that Florida can't be disenfranchised. Given this permissibility, it really is the state's call on how they want to conduct an election, not the candidates. OBAMA's camp may attempt to fight this one, but they will lose and Obama will look considerably weaker as a result. This is great news for HILLARY CLINTON.

smartprimate - independent sources can donate the funds to the state democratic committees.. this is completely within the rules and not in violation of the FEC regulations... the important thing is that the voters voices are heard and their delegates seated at the national convention

It is completely within the rules for states to make a request to the DNC to be seated. So, a re-vote is completely legit and not an evil plan concocted by the Clinton machine.

There have been many people working on finding a way to have a fair and equitable re-vote in Florida and I hope that the Obama camp is willing to be a part of the SOLUTION.

LOL Dogsoldier - perhaps they are starting to see the truth? perhaps the novelty is wearing off? perhaps the Obama phenomena is fizzling? I did observe several posts where people who previously supported Obama are outraged... of course that might just be RNC plants trying to keep things going

reaganfan - whatsamatta? worried that our boy Mac might have to go up against Clinton instead of Obama now?

June 3, 2008

Clinton Rolls to Victory in Florida Primary

Clinton...58%...122 delegates
Obama...42%...87 delegates

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LOM, don't forget the 25 Super delegates that come with a good size win for Hillary. If she can pull off a 10 point win in Michigan and a huge PA victory, she is right back in this with more states and momentum to go!

I wasn't sure if Florida's 211 delegates was inclusive of the unpledged delegates as well. But if there is an additional 25, then great--she can get those too!

Hold the phone amigos... just to be accurate in the numbers game... remember the addition of FL and MI doesnt just include more SDs... it changes the 2025 to a higher number... LOL

My respect for Al Gore and John Edwards is close to going down the tubes. With influence comes responsibility. Why dont they get out and endorse a candidate when we need them to? I'm having trouble thinking up any good reasons.