Please help me understand why Michigan scheduled the early primary, and in the case of Florida, why the Floridians must lose their delegates because of the vote from their Republican legislature/governor that moved up both party primaries.

Good they knew well in advance if they held these the votes would NOT count.You can't have it both ways,So all I can say is HILLBILLY suffer.

Easy take it to the floor of the convention.

Obama is bluffing. Telling his delegates to vote against seating Michigan and FLorida is political suicide.

He blocked redo primaires, now take it to the floor Hill!!!!

Donna-Does the name Dean ring a bell? The fact is the DNC under Dean is a third world effort that only Syria can do worse. Now the DNC is hopelessly paralyzed with fear of offending Obama. Al Sharpton has threatened to march if the DNC enter into a redo and Obama is cheering Sharpton on. Jessie Jackson has indicated the same. And if the super delegates decide for Hillary Sharpton threatened riots in the streets. Nice friends Obama has. But it works.

Obama is just playing poker hoping to convince people that Hillary cant win. he has lsot this be tseveral times and will lose it again judgeing by recent polls in WV, PENN et all.

Stop trying for a redo Hillary. You don't need one. YOu won these states already.

Take it to the floor. Let democrats face the music. They will seat MI and FL delegations. 100% guarenteed.

No more discussion. He blocked the redo's. You gave him the chance. now take it to the floor.

MAIL IN VOTING IN LARGE SCALE, IN A STATE LAGGING BETWEEN OTHER THE EXPERIENCE HOW TO VERIFY THE SIGNATURES,
IS AN OPEN INVITATION FOR F R A U D !

There appears there is only one fair solution: OPEN CAUCUSES.

This would benefit Hillary, as vacation-absent student will not be able to vote,
but is disliked by her campaign because
allegedly many do not assist because of
the amount of time each voter must invest there ! (of course, it is difficult to see why this should affectany candidate in particular)

But if, as Hillary says, voters in Michigan are so adamant to make their voices heard, ABOVE EXCUSE IS NOT VALID !

The ALTERNATIVE: Michigan will have no delegates, which coincudentally, is the only really correct solution !!!
Caminito

Michigan Do-Over Primary 'Dead'

equals, for those who fail or do not want to notice:

Clinton Bid For The White House 'Dead'

So thanks for trying and take care.

Howard Dean should be run out of convention on a rail.

That or thrown under a bus while everyone cheers.

That man is the most incompetent president of the DNC ever.

Kick his sorry behind out the door after the MI and FL delegations are seated.

He is a nightmare that should be nowhere near a general election.

Tom-I'm a Clinton supporter and I think that's a dumb idea.

S.B. I agree with you. Hillary just get on with PA and the rest of the states. Then take it to the floor and let it all hang out.

If we need you we will call you Bye Bye!

Actually I think this benefits CLinton and that Obama has just handed her the nomination.

He might have won MI. Now he never will. She didn't just win MI and FL she won big. He could have changed that narrative. Now he can't.

MI and Fl will be seated as is, with 40% uncommitted delegates ripe for poaching instead of many of them being Obama delegates.

Hillary gets to say she won all the big states, can use the arguements that superdelegates should vote for her because FL and MI havent been counted. Obama gets no votes in the MI primary to count towards the popular vote, and he has to argue against seating 8% of the democratic electorate at convention.

I think Obama blocking these two primaries just gave Hillary Clinton the nomination on the convention floor.

Tom-Never, ever, caucuses! Never! There are no caucuses in the general and none needed now. Never! Get rid of those caucuses, period. One man one vote. That's the American way. No mail in votes either. Hillary, do your thing and take it to the floor. If the democrats spit so be it! I'm on board for the ride. Hillary all the way. If necessary we write your name in, period!

Obama didn't block the redo primaries, the two states did. Howard Dean offered the states a chance to do a re-vote, which was generous considering they broke the rule laid down by the DNC. The Clinton campaign agreed to those rules, but now that she hasn’t sown up the nomination, she wants to change those rules. Typical Clinton politics.

No caucus. No mail in. Obama has blocked real primaries. It's over.

Take it to the floor Hill!

Call his bluff.

Obama blocked redo primaries in both states.

He is welcome to explain himself and his position to the Democratic National Convention.

Take it to the floor Hill!

Democratic win in the gen.- also "dead"

Because if Obama wins this nomination we all are going to suffer. When you are paying 7 dollars a gallon for gas in 4 years dont expect me to pity you.

If you dont vote for Hillary now after knowing who Obamas FAMILY is - McCain will win and we all will lose.

Yeah, take it to the floor. And after a sleazy Clinton bid to steal the nomination, hello president McCain.

Hillary Clinton is like a Vampire that won't die. Please go away. The Democratic Party knows that Sen Obama is the future of the party. Race is only an issue to the extent that the Clinton's want to use it as a wedge issue. Do not let them do this. Sen obama is sincere in his efforts to have this issue discussed intelligently by the American public.

How did Obama block the Primaries? he did not move them up, he did not set the rules that said they did not count, he did not hold up wither process to set up re-votes. Neither state wanted to pay for a new process. In Michigan, it did not even get through the legislature to be considered. HRC herself said that shouldn't count and would not matter, of course she said that before he was down in delegates. Those states scrwed themselves. If they wanted to change the order for primaries, they had 4 years to address the issue with the DNC. They knew what would happen and did it anyway.

Remember Sen Clinton's side didn't want an open revote and that was the big issue...

Superdelegates aren't as ignorant as the general public about why this revote didn't happen ...it was not all about Sen obama...his constituents in the Michigan senate argued that everyone who was disenfranchised the first time around needed to get to vote the second time around...

Sen. Clinton said no. ..and fought to get her way to the front of the pack...that just the people they wanted voting would vote again and not to worry about all the people who voted in a different direction or who were out of state and/or are still out of state or aren't there now.

The superdelegates aren't dumb and if you look at the papers in the state ...they aren't either.

You know it doesn't look very sincere when someone comes in to the state with gobs of their backers carrying all the cash to redo the election...

That looks bad.

So ...no ...the supers aren't going to bite on Obama ruined this...

They know if anyone is to blame it is the person who didn't care about the votes not counting originally and then cared when it mattered to her. The supers want a candidate that stands up when it counts...with the voting and other issues.