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Obama: I'm Not Running For VP
March 10, 2008 1:55 PM
ABC News' David Wright, Sunlen Miller and Andy Fies Report: Sen. Barack Obama pushed back hard Monday against the notion of a "dream ticket" with him in the number two spot.
In recent days, Sen. Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton have both floated the idea of a joint ticket as a way to settle the nomination, suggesting that's where the race is headed.
On a conference call with reporters Monday, Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson argued Obama hasn't passed the "commander-in-chief test" but suggested he may pass before the Democratic party's convention in Denver this August in time to be considered as a vice-presidential nominee.
"We do not believe that, as of this point, Senator Obama has passed that key commander-in-chief test," Wolfson said.
"Senator Clinton will not choose any candidate who has not, at the time of choosing, passed the national security threshold - period. But we have a long way to go between now and Denver, and it's not something that she is prepared to rule out at this point. But certainly anyone who is chosen as vice presidential candidate needs to be prepared to be commander-in-chief," Wolfson said.
Today, before an energetic crowd in Columbus MS, Obama not only made clear he's not interested, but also suggested the Clinton's offer is presumptuous and offensive.
Watch the VIDEO HERE
"With all due respect: I have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton; I have won more of the popular vote than Senator Clinton; I have more delegates than Senator Clinton," Obama said. "So I don't know how someone in 2nd place is offering the vice presidency to the person in first place."
Obama also questioned how the Clinton campaign could argue, in the same breath, that he is not ready to be commander in chief.
"I don't understand," Obama said. "If I'm not read how come you think I'd be such a great VP."
In a May 1992 interview with CBS, Bill Clinton outlined his own criteria for VP, saying that the most important quality is finding someone who would be a good president "if, God forbid, something happened to me the week after I took office."
Obama argued he is better equipped than Clinton to serve in the Oval Office: "The most important thing when you answer the phone at 3AM is what kind of judgment you have, not how long you've been in Washington. And I believe I have shown better judgment than Sen. Clinton."
Obama suggested the Clinton VP talking points are an effort to hoodwink the electorate, by suggesting the voters can have both Clinton and Obama.
"Am I clear? I want to make sure I'm absolutely clear," Obama said. "You are going to have to make a choice. Are you going with the past or the future?"
As if to make sure he was being crystal clear, Obama added once more: "I am not running for Vice President."
March 10, 2008 in Bush, George W., Kucinich, Dennis, Tancredo, Tom | Permalink | User Comments (140)
There is no question in my mind that Obama will be called to testify. It is about time Brian Ross started to peel back the onion on Obama. So far, he's had an easy ride. Things are beginning to change.
Posted by: Nia | Mar 10, 2008 2:02:23 PM
The more I read about Obama, the more shocking and ugly this starts to get.
Posted by: Jeff | Mar 10, 2008 2:04:00 PM
Obama is GREAT!!!! He really put HIlary in her place......what audacity to offer VP to him when she is in 2nd PLACE!!!!
Posted by: michaelinphilly | Mar 10, 2008 2:08:13 PM
The deviousness of the Clintons - both of them - takes my breath away. The degree of maneuvering and manipulation they are capable of is absolutely astonishing. This was apparent when Bill Clinton was in the White House and would become apparent again if they manage to weasel their way in at the DNC. Enough already! Go away! You won't have my vote under any circumstances.
Posted by: Brenna | Mar 10, 2008 2:09:25 PM
That's what i'm talking about.. NO WAY IN THE HELL!!!!!
Posted by: Lawrence | Mar 10, 2008 2:13:14 PM
Thank you for putting her in her place. Her claim of foriegn experience is centered on Irish peace claims which was just mocked by the Irish government and a Nobel winner this weekend as not being true.
Posted by: james | Mar 10, 2008 2:13:47 PM
The "hoodwinked and bamboozled" line sounds almost like a line that Denzel Washington says in the movie "Malcom X". Does Obama know something about "hoodwinking and bamboozling"? We may find out from the Rezko trial.
Posted by: rs | Mar 10, 2008 2:22:06 PM
THE INCREDIBLE NONSENSE OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES WILL BE THE DEMISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. CLINTON CRITICIZES OBAMA AND SAYS HE IS NOT READY OR EXPERIANCED BUT FEELS HE IS READY TO BE VP? CLINTON IS THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL LIAR & MANIPULATOR ON EARTH -THE MORE WOMEN DON'T OPEN THEIR EYES TO THIS FACT- MORE OF THESE SAME WOMEN WILL NOT BE RESPECTED IN THE FUTURE. THINK ABOUT IT.WAKE UP LADIES & GENTS. NEITHER DEM IS READY OR QUALIFIED. MOVE ON.
Posted by: JACK | Mar 10, 2008 2:22:13 PM
The real dream ticket is Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. Just makes me tingle to think of it. John McCain could not stand a chance with these two as opposition.
Posted by: Mary Miles | Mar 10, 2008 2:22:48 PM
Actually john mcCain would beat a Hillary/ Edward ticket. The democrats would lose the african americans, young, independents and several republican voters. Obama/ Edward is unstoppable. Because Edwards brings Hillary supporters and Obama maintains his.
Posted by: Obama4US | Mar 10, 2008 2:26:29 PM
"I don't understand," Obama said. "If I'm not ready how come you think I'd be such a great VP."
Says it all here. Sad how many people fall for the Clintons lame politics. Why are you all so comfortable with the wool being pulled over your eyes.
Posted by: Will | Mar 10, 2008 2:26:31 PM
I could not believe that Hill has such nerves to even want to offer the VP to the guy who is running first. Please woman get tour act together.We don't even want you on the Obama ticket, you too polirized. Yes your husband was a good president but we also remember all the scandal from the 90th.It's time to get out of the race & let the party union for the Nov. againt Republican.
Posted by: L | Mar 10, 2008 2:30:20 PM
The real dream ticket is Barack Obama and John Edwards. Just makes me tingle to think of it. John McCain could not stand a chance with these two as opposition.
Posted by: Deep Release | Mar 10, 2008 2:30:43 PM
America wake up!
Obama is NOT qualified to run our country. We need someone that knows the ins and outs of Washington.
Let Obama learn the ropes and earn his presidency, then run.
I want a fighter and someone that will stand up for ALL Americans.
Obama is NOT experienced enough. Hillary was the first lady for 8 years and I am sure she knew how things operated in the White House. She traveled internationally. She's a lawyer. She's a senator.
Don't discount all of her knowledge. And yes President Clinton is a PLUS. Our national debt was non existant when he was President. Money flourished. The country was very very positive.
Hillary will bring all Democrats together with Republicans. She is the only one that can do that.
Next time Obama.
Posted by: America the Beautiful | Mar 10, 2008 2:33:08 PM
This country certainly does not need the likes of Obama..After 8 years of BUSH the last thing we need is Husain Obama..Anybody but Obama. He is a CHICAGO CROOK.
Posted by: Joe MUrphy | Mar 10, 2008 2:33:41 PM
Mr Obama's immaturity is showing.
Posted by: s.b. | Mar 10, 2008 2:34:21 PM
from the man whose judgment led him to get involved in a suspicios real estate transaction with a man well known to be under federal investigation
Posted by: tex | Mar 10, 2008 2:34:50 PM
What a surprise - Howard Wolfson and the Clinton Criminal Clan are now saying that Obama isn't ready to be VP, but maybe by August. These people really think Americans are stupid. Hillary Clinton does not get to pick a VP. She's not the nominee. Her and her idiot advisors are laughable.
Posted by: Mike | Mar 10, 2008 2:36:29 PM
I can only hope that the DNC understand the risk that Hilary want to put our party to...it's a risk we cannopt afford to take. She to divisive, she will do & say anything to try to nock Obama down. Democrat we need to stand up & say no the Hilary banwagon. we had enough of this woman...Please do the country & democratic party a favor...go away...
Posted by: L | Mar 10, 2008 2:39:54 PM
When will Democrats nominate a presidential candidate who lives up to the standards they set for Republicans? Hypocrisy abounds.
Posted by: jijalagi | Mar 10, 2008 2:40:04 PM
Obama is just showing his arrogance. He's ahead and surely, Hillary's supporters will bow down and worship him when and if he gets the nomination. What a disaster. It will be a contest to see who makes the first blunder, Him or his multi-talented wife. Now that she is finally proud to be an American, living in her million dollar home with her Princeton education weren't enough for her.
Posted by: KC_1971 | Mar 10, 2008 2:42:59 PM
Neither Hillary or Obama meet the standards the Democrats set for Republican candidates. Bill didn’t meet those standards either. Why do Democrats demand qualifications of Republican candidates then fail to meet those standards themselves?
Posted by: jijalagi | Mar 10, 2008 2:46:43 PM
Great comeback, Mr. Obama. You put her in her place by just stating the facts--no snipe, no spin, and no fabrication. Just the simple truth. Just goes to show you're a lot toughter than a lot of folks may think--and you don't have to be like SHE is to prove it.
Posted by: way to go! | Mar 10, 2008 2:46:57 PM
Too late Hillary..........Lies will always eventually come back to bite you. You should be dizzy from all the spinning you've been attempting. It's over sweetie.
Posted by: Joris | Mar 10, 2008 2:50:46 PM
Obama said he has good judgement. I just want to ask :
when he voted 129 times for present in Illinoi, where is his good judgement?
when he said he will meet wiht our enemy without precondition and clear purpose, where is his good judgement?
This is his judgement:invade our ally--Pakistan, make them become our enemy.
Meet our enemy, give them inspired talk and then sit down to hope, hope they become our friends.
I don't think they are good judgement.
Posted by: ring | Mar 10, 2008 2:51:18 PM
"I don't understand," Obama said. "If I'm not ready how come you think I'd be such a great VP."
Great point Obama -You AREN'T ready and would make a lousy VP. What an Arrogant divisive person he is.
Posted by: geevill | Mar 10, 2008 2:53:49 PM
Hillary never said he would be VP ... she was just being kind.
Posted by: Jackson | Mar 10, 2008 2:55:07 PM
In addition to experience, Hillary Clinton has been tested and vetted. Obama is still an unknown with a glass jaw - surprising since he's made it so far through the presidential primary. Of course, he's been promoted and carried on the shoulders of his media "guru" Axelrod and Emil Jones who took legislation away from other state senators who had done all the work to give it to his protegee Obama. I'm sure he created lots of ill will as a result - others did the work, he took the credit. It's been alleged that all of the legislation he cites was pushed through in a 12 month period - what was he doing all the rest of his time there?
He should look at the possibility of being vetted for the vice-presidency if and when it's offered. That's the best he's going to do - it takes big states not those that are reliably republican to win this nomination. "Wishing and Hoping" that these small caucus wins can translate into Democratic wins in the general election is just that. A bubble that will burst when Clinton pulls way ahead in the popular vote - now separated by about 3,000 votes (remember how much money he spent in Texas to even get 47 % - outspending Clinton 4 to 1).
Also, Obama supporters, he's so much smarter than most of you. If truth were told, he knows what the super delegates know. We're heading for a potential train wreck here. Will he let his ego and arrogance stand in the way of a certain Democratic victory in November?
Posted by: twinmom48 | Mar 10, 2008 2:55:15 PM
When Obama's right, he is right. thanks for pointing out you are not ready and qualified to be VP Obama.
Posted by: geevill | Mar 10, 2008 2:55:48 PM
Obama must concede the election immediately. Run as Hillary's Vice President. It is the only way you can gain the required expirience needed to run this country.
Obama you are tearing this party apart. It is your fault and yours alone. You must stop this and join under Hillary.
Posted by: tori | Mar 10, 2008 2:57:42 PM
Maybe he should "denounce AND reject". LOL!
Posted by: ROB | Mar 10, 2008 3:00:54 PM
tori - you must be a Clinton supporter if you think a call for the front-runner to step aside is anything but silly.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:01:51 PM
Rob - or maybe just "ignore," exactly as most of the rest of us have started ignoring whatever spews from the mouth of a Clinton.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:03:17 PM
Obama is not running for V.P. he is running from Gitmo
Posted by: Terresa | Mar 10, 2008 3:05:50 PM
Hillary’s judgment should once again be called into question!
1st: It was staying with Bill for political gain!
2nd: The war in Iraq vote!
3rd: Agreeing to sign up for the rules that were stated by the DNC in respect to Florida and Mich.
4th: Destroying the Democratic Party for her win at all cost policy.
5th: Slashing and Bashing Obama and then wanting him to be her running mate.
And this is who you want as President, come on women of America look at who you are supporting. It is her judgment that needs be the #1 issue of this campaign. She has poor judgment that is the bottom line issue for all of us to examine
Posted by: America | Mar 10, 2008 3:08:15 PM
Mr. Obama does not have the experience to shred documents, Money Laundering, Drug Trafficking and making people disappear. If that’s the experience you are looking for, vote for Clinton. Please educate yourself –
OBAMA # 1 NOT #2
Posted by: AMY IN FIFE LAKE MICHIGAN | Mar 10, 2008 3:10:48 PM
The issue here is why did she agree to those rule before the elections took place? Can any of you tell me why? If she did not agree with them; all she had to do back in August 07 is say I do not agree. I want the two staes two count in the process. Why did'nt she do that?
Posted by: America | Mar 10, 2008 3:15:33 PM
I think Obama has a very good vision for America. But, only issue I have with him is his readiness.
The issues on which he stumbled last week were very trivial issues but those issues defintely challenged his credential and judgement due to lack of experience. He along with media were very successful in doing cover up by distracting voters by pointing to Hillary.
Good Vision but less experience can impair judgement. Obama may right on Iraq war today but it was his gut feeling and not a concrete proof.
The reason I support Hillary is that she proved everytime including the voting for Iraq war that she makes decision based on proof and not on the gut feeling. Hillary will also be a friendly face internationally and would project better image of US.
I think Clinton Obama ticket will be best for US.
Posted by: Humm | Mar 10, 2008 3:17:28 PM
I want more details on this "commander-in-chief test" that Clinton keeps talking about. What kind of test is it, multiple choice or fill in the blank? I bet her test results are included with her tax returns ;)
Cheers!
Posted by: Matt | Mar 10, 2008 3:20:30 PM
There's really IS no stopping HRC. And there appears to be nothing she won't do to win this nomination. For those who worry that she will irrevicably split the party, I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about why she would do that. The answer is that she just doesn't care. I shudder to think what having her as a president would be like--except to say it would be a real shock to those who can't seem to see what she really stands for- her favorite cause; her favorite word - "I". I went from supporting her, to questioning her sanity, and finally to deciding she's plain "evil".
Posted by: given up on HRC | Mar 10, 2008 3:20:41 PM
Bottom line is this, Tim. Clinton can't win the nomination, unless superdelegates overturn the lead Obama has and will continue to have in pledged delegates. I simply don't believe that will happen, therefore in my mind Obama is the presumptive nominee.
Obama will approach his decision about a running mate in the same analytical fashion his campaign approaches each state contest.
It is highly unlikely that analytical approach will point toward a candidate with negatives of 53, who is from a secure blue state, and who doesn't add to his relative innexperience in any real way. My guess is he'll go with a former/current governor or someone with recognized foreign policy credentials (and most likely not another another senator).
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:20:45 PM
Bill Clinton's SILLY comment of Dream ticket sounds like support to Tonya Harding.
Tonya Harding aims to enter White house ? Even a silver medal is too good for Hilary. Better to have someone inexperience than someone with so called 35 years experience with pack of lies.
Posted by: holy | Mar 10, 2008 3:21:27 PM
The wick on the candle is burning down for the Clinton campaign. Lesson learned:
1. Never underestimate an opponent
2. Make sure you have a competent team that respects one another
3. NEVER DOWNPLAY HOPE
4. Be honest with the American people. They're a forgiving bunch
5. NEVER, EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER try to act like you've won the game when you're clearly not a winner at all.
Posted by: Joris | Mar 10, 2008 3:23:59 PM
Lookup (3:17) Enjoyed your post. So what trick do you suppose she'll pull out of her sleeve 2-3 days before the Pennsylvania primary? She seems to have unlimited dirty tricks--but then she has had lots of 'experience' hasn't she?
Posted by: | Mar 10, 2008 3:24:54 PM
Jay - that's great, except the Democratic nomination doesn't work that way. If it did, the Obama campaign would have adjusted its strategies accordingly.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:26:02 PM
Anyone wanting to run with Hillary would be have to be a masochist at heart with big Bill looking over his\her shoulder at all times...Forget about Edwards. He's too smart to get involved with that. He wants another cabinet position....I will resist recommending Spitzer even though he seems to fit in with Hillary\Bill crowd...
Posted by: John | Mar 10, 2008 3:29:24 PM
I don't want him as President, or as VP. For me, the clear choice is Hillary as President. And, if not her, than Go McCain Go!
Posted by: bw | Mar 10, 2008 3:32:55 PM
I don't have an agenda. Your guy doesn't have a plan or a clue. I didn't vote for the Republicans in the last two elections. Where were you when that was going on? sitting in your home waiting for the second coming? People say that this is the first time they have voted; they are the reason we are in a mess, not me. They stayed home on their sorry apathetic lazy butts and let the Republicans win not once, but twice. Now they have the nerve to whine about how things have gone in the last 8 years. Obama is not a saviour; he is a slick talker who could sell ice to Alaska. He has relied on all of this political correctness to save him from scrutiny and it has worked marvelously. He is not as pure as he leads us to believe, but anyone who tries to point that out is shouted down. Things go wrong, it's Hillary's fault or blame Canada, or it's McCain or it is whoever else he can get to take the fall. Indeed. And like your candidate, you have to borrow words to chastise me like I am a child.I am not dividing the party; I have been a Democrat for longer than you can imagine. It didn't take some magical messiah to get me out. Look at yourselves, you all are equally as divisive. It's Obama's way or no way !!!
Posted by: KC_1971 | Mar 10, 2008 3:34:13 PM
I think Tori is kidding. I continue to put my trust in the American people that we are all not brainless, Ricki Lake watching, National Enquirer reading fools. Please don't make me sorry for the trust. Senator Clinton has never in her life lead the response to a crisis situation. She will bring more Republicans to the polls in November than John McCain just so they can vote against her. She will say whatever needs to be said to win (as seen in SC.) These campaigns are the largest organizations these candidates have ever lead. This is their executive office trial run. Both Clinton and McCain at some point have run out of money and had to fired high ranking staff members because of their performance and they have had to completely re-tool their message. Does America have the time or ability to run out of money and make major changes in the middle of a Clinton/McCain administration? Barack Obama, on the other hand, has been steady from the start (Day One) and the organization he heads has raised the most money, generated the most enthusiasm, rallied the most people, won the most states, won the most votes, ... Who has passed the executive experience test?
Posted by: TSnow27604 | Mar 10, 2008 3:35:51 PM
Jay - this isn't the general election. Obama figured out a strategy for winning given the real playing field - as opposed to some metaphysical playing field the Clintons seem to be on.
Come time for the general election, Obama will then deal with those realities.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:37:42 PM
obama statements will be the reason McClain is president in Nov. The Audacity of this guy to keep thinking the republicans will be voting for him in Nov. is astounding.
Posted by: TO | Mar 10, 2008 3:38:17 PM
Where was Obama's good judgement when he voted presented over 100 times?
Posted by: Eric | Mar 10, 2008 3:38:48 PM
Humm
So you are as naive as the Clintons.
The person running second behind Obama picking the vice- president.
Spelling it out easy as 1, 2, 3.
This would be like the players of a baseball team picking the coach. Or the girs scouts of america picking their own troop master.
Now tell me are you that naive.
Posted by: bambino | Mar 10, 2008 3:39:44 PM
Well that settles it so no one can say now if Obama does not get the nomination that he was not offered the VP position, all they can say now is that he was and he refused.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 10, 2008 3:40:08 PM
Oh, I see why the 'present' votes bother the Clinton supporters so much now. Its because he really was present. They just can't abide by anyone reporting the truth.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:40:40 PM
Jay, you know that in the General election Obama is going to win New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts because democrats always win those states. Obama also won Missouri which is a swing state. But Clinton acts like the little people don't matter. People in the midwest and the south don't matter. The only people that matter are the people that live in the big population states. She isn't even campaigning in Mississippi, she is sending Bill. I want someone who can win some of the small Republican states and cares about everyone, not just the big areas.
Posted by: Jason | Mar 10, 2008 3:41:54 PM
SJ - looking past reality for a second (just to see how the other half lives) and pretending Clinton is the nominee, I think she would have a hard time finding a running mate.
Who wants to be on a ticket with a candidate who has negatives of 53? She would go down, and take down whoever was foolish enough to agree to join the traveling drama show.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:43:16 PM
Hillary has as many voters as Obama, what makes him think they will blindly vote for him. I know I will be voting for McCain if obama is the nominee for the democrats or maybe vote for Nader anything is better than obama.
Posted by: TO | Mar 10, 2008 3:43:33 PM
Obama wants to Change the government.
Wants to be the first Black President.
Does not Care about the American People.
Does not Care about much if Elected, besides his own personal goal.
He has:
Lie to America on numerous occasions
He Has mis-lead Americans
He has proven he can not be trusted. By his word, deeds and actions.
He has for over a year ran around telling ameicans, the governments bad, the economy is failing, pointing fingers and blaming.
As a US Senator - He should stand there in Shame.
He has Proven he can't commit to anything voting present on the majority of issues. A refusal to do his job, saying I do not care. Not taking a stand either way. (So he could blame others).
He has undermined the President, Disrespected the Position of the President, Publicly. With the world watching.
He has blamed the government for everything, wrong with the country.
So, every Senator, Every Congressman, Every Department, The VP and the President he has put down. Oh wait, he is a Senator, Doesn't he feel ashamed of his part, and not doing anything but point fingers at others.
He whines and moans, then whines some more. he complains hillary is picking on him.
He whines the media does not like him, damn the media gives him the most favorable coverage of anyone of them.
I wish the media would Not make him out to be a liar, and give him some lousy headlines and talk down on him.
Mr Obama has his trump card to play yet.
Since he has whined so much, guess he will have to play it soon. Or keep grasping at straws. His I am a poor Blackman racist overture is to come. you think it will be in C minor?
Posted by: seah | Mar 10, 2008 3:44:17 PM
This would be like me saying that I am going to be president come November and Christina Aguilara is gonna be the Vice-President.
Hey but check this out, what I've been saying for the past few months.
McCain/ Condi Rice ticket, now being mentioned in the press.
Posted by: bambino | Mar 10, 2008 3:45:09 PM
For those who think Hillary Clinton will get the Democratic nomination shows the pathetic reality of those out of touch with common sense and how the REAL WORLD operates. Secondly, she's too toxic to be considered for any executive position within Mr. Obama's administration. Thirdly, after all the shenanigans during this current campaign, her Senator seat may be in trouble after New Yorkers see what she's been hiding in her 2006 TAX RETURNS. You have to realize the truth in understanding our country is full of lemmings willing to follow those on the platform of untruths and manipulation. Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever and a new time has arrived.
Posted by: Joris | Mar 10, 2008 3:45:56 PM
One must never count their eggs before they are hatched, by closing all doors in event of some unforeseen circumstance that may have you back on your heels playing ketchp in politics it can happen.
A day in politics can be a lifetime so Obama is rather silly in coming out strong now and saying thanks but no thanks, he cant tell what will happen tomorrow, a smart political always leaves options open.
He just slammed the door on his options, a bit cocky in his attitude so for his sake I hope he keeps winning all the time because on dent in the road and he will sure end up looking like a fool, and this brave stance about no VP for me I running for President can backfire, that boy really need to learn not to play this game.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 10, 2008 3:46:04 PM
Hillary doesn't want to president for the good of the country. She wants it for her own personal AMBITIONS. Obama is serious about change and has the ability to inspire millions of people. It's about time America had some aspiring to do. I can believe that Hillary has the audacity to talk about Obama being VP.
Posted by: SquirrelmanJ | Mar 10, 2008 3:46:10 PM
Jay - how can you say Obama doesn't have a strategy for the general election? That's a little presumptious.
According to Rasmussen, he holds a large electoral college lead over McCain. I don't put a lot of stock in these early match-up polls, but I also don't put a lot of stock in statements like any given candidate has no strategy for something that hasn't even started yet.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:47:49 PM
Sorry, Barry, but Gov. Eliot Spitzer now seems a better fit for the Clinton empire!
Posted by: carl | Mar 10, 2008 3:48:48 PM
People are forgetting that VP's do absolutely nothing - maybe the youth here don't remember George Bush Sr.'s vp who couldn't even spell. Then there was Al Gore. What did he do? I think that's her point. Give him the VP slot, unite the country, and let him learn OTJ (on the job training). However, I'm against this - he's not fit to be even VP with his shady dealings and corrupt politics.
Posted by: Jenny | Mar 10, 2008 3:48:58 PM
Seah
So what world are you living, Hillary is the one whinning and crying getting people fire from the media. Get real and what difference is this than what Hillary is doing.
So I guess you are one of the few living in your own little dreamland
Posted by: bambino | Mar 10, 2008 3:49:41 PM
Oh please they all want it for their own personal ambitions so don't believe that crap that they are doing it to bring about change.
There are many people that work in the background doing all sort of good making change daily in the lives of others that go unnoticed.
Clinton and Obama are politicians first and foremost so the both of them have their own personal ambitions as to why they want thins, so try and make it out as if one does not the both do.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 10, 2008 3:50:59 PM
TSnow - I'm thinking Mark Warner or Tony Zinni.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 10, 2008 3:54:02 PM
Nice but I think we need Mark Warner in the Senate.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | Mar 10, 2008 3:56:45 PM
The event of today with the NY governor can show how easily it is for one to fall from grace with the wave of the hand in politics.
That is why it is not good for any politician to be cocky thinking you don't need anyone or anything, you have it in the bag as Obama's attitude today is showing.
Yes he is running for president but it would of gained him more if he either ignored that subject of VP, or just said not at the moment let see how the race goes.
At the moment he is riding a wave and feels that he cant be toppled, some of his supporters are even feeling that way and cheering on his new attitude of today, but I hope they sit and look at how easily one political can be loved today and hated tomorrow once some dirt starts to fly, let just hope Obama has not dirt because its a long way to Nov still.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 10, 2008 3:58:52 PM
Jenny
So what VP experience has she had?
Monica had more experience as being the first lady than what she did.
She is out to smear the democratic party if she can't win. Two faced-first she bashes Obama the she wants to put him on the VP pedestal. Yet another one of her tactics to confuse the super delegates in the process of endorsing Obama. But unfortunately the super delegates are not as naive as you.
Posted by: bambino | Mar 10, 2008 3:59:05 PM
HRC must really be proud of her supporters. They are just as vicious as toxic as she is.
They make Rush Limbaugh look sane and reasonable.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | Mar 10, 2008 4:01:02 PM
Hillary Clinton & John McCain are both much better candidates than Obama to be our president. I don’t care about dividing the Dem party as much as I care about this country. Obama is not qualified or experienced to run the country, yet he just can’t wait at all to obtain more power. Compared to Obama, John McCain would also be a much better choice because he is much more experienced, reliable, and loyal to this country.
Posted by: yi001 | Mar 10, 2008 4:03:28 PM
Nope we are not toxic just smart enough to know that sometimes went you want all you may well end up losing everything. Obama should think about, he has not even crossed the bridge yet but he is buys burning them
Posted by: SJ | Mar 10, 2008 4:03:56 PM
SJ
Why would Obama want to be her VP after all the bashing she has been doing.
That would be like you doing and support your worst enemy.
Yet another naive person.
In other words if came down to that he probably would not accept the VP roll. And I think about 68% of America would agree, and that's being generous.
The people supporting this idea are Clinton supporters that are determined to have her as president regardless of what she has to do to accomplish this goal. She knows it and wants to leave the party smeared.
Posted by: bambino | Mar 10, 2008 4:05:42 PM
"I still feel the supers will overturn and put their support behind Mrs. Clinton."
They might as well endorse McCain.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | Mar 10, 2008 4:08:43 PM
He is foolish, she made the offer so what all he had to do is ignore it let her talk, but coming out and acting cocky saying I am winning so you cant offer me anything is dumb.
What if he get tossed off his game we still have a long way to go, she will still win some states and no one knows what can happen he is acting as if he knows and we are one week away from Denver.
My position would of been to not say a work and continue on my game plan but slamming the offer and playing as if am better than you are, am ahead is the dumbest thing he could do at this moment.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 10, 2008 4:09:52 PM
"she made the offer so what all he had to do is ignore it let her talk, but coming out and acting cocky saying I am winning so you cant offer me anything is dumb."
She made the "offer" because she wants to trick voters into believing they could ge the "dream ticket," by voting for her.
Ignoring her statement was exactly what she was counting on from Obama.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | Mar 10, 2008 4:14:38 PM
If Barack Obama wins the most elected delegates, the most states, and the popular vote and super delegates nominate Hillary Clinton, I am done with the Democratic party. And none of you know me and how hard that will be because I am certainly not going to ever support a Republican. While I support Obama, if it were the other way around, I would hope the will of the people would be upheld. Since turning 18 I have voted for Bill Clinton twice, Gore, and Kerry. I remember where I was that night that the news media retracted their projections that Gore had won Florida. I was up all night watching and we all know how it felt when a few insiders took that election away from us. This is the same thing only worse in that it will be our own party doing it. There are many scenrios yet to play out but if this happens, I am done.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | Mar 10, 2008 4:16:35 PM
yi001
Just FYI
No presidential candidate has or will ever be ready to run the country. None of the presidents have ever been president or vice president to be qualified therefore none of the candidate are experienced in running the country yet. Yet Hillary is determined to push this on the American people. If her being experienced as being the firsts lady for eight qualifies her as president the she will be going on her 3 rd term.
Posted by: bambino | Mar 10, 2008 4:17:31 PM
Where is the message of hope in Obama's arrogant comment? What a jerk
Posted by: chasseur | Mar 10, 2008 4:19:42 PM
^Ditto, TSnow27604, and I'll go you one better - I've voted for every Democrat since McGovern. If the Dems nominate HRC under the scenario you paint, I'd be too embarassed to call myself a Democrat any longer, when they aren't democrats themselves.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | Mar 10, 2008 4:21:10 PM
This whole conversation is apalling. My concern is that the vitriol that is being whipped up in the Democratic party by the supporters of both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton will cause us to lose in November. I think either of them would be good candidates. Their positions are not really that far apart. Let's stop the name-calling and figure out a way to unite the party to win when it really counts!



