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Obama: Long Primary Has Been "Great for America"
March 30, 2008 3:54 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: Following Sen. Hillary Clinton's interview with the Washington Post in which she vowed to keep on fighting in the primary race, Senator Obama renewed his assertion that the long primary race has been a good thing, contrary to what some are saying.
"As this primary has gone on a little bit longer, there have been people who have been voicing some frustration. They’ve been saying, ‘Oh, you know – the campaigns are going at it back and forth and you know we feel like that initial hopefulness that we had now is kind of slipping away.’" Obama said but then countered, "I want everybody to understand that this has been a great contest. Great for America. It’s engaged and involved people like never before."
Obama told reporters yesterday that he believes talk of Senator Clinton withdrawing is premature, but he also insinuated that it would be best to have a nominee after the June contests finish.
"I think it’s terrific that Sen. Clinton’s supporters have been as passionate as my supporters have been, because that means that people are invested and engaged in this process," Obama said today, "And I am absolutely confident that when this primary season is all over, Democrats will be united because we understand what’s at stake in this election."
Speaking before a crowd of 22,000 at Penn State University, Obama chose rather to focus on Senator John McCain, the presumed Republican nominee, saying that he is "clinging to the past, he is running for George Bush’s third term."
Obama, on day three of his six day tour throughout Pennsylvania, started the day playing basketball with PA Senator Bob Casey. Afterward he took a tour of the dairy complex at the Pennsylvania State Agriculture Facility where he fed a calf milk though a bottle.
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Well, it looks like his Pennsylvania strategy is to look as cool as he can on the basketball courts of college campuses. That way, they will think he is a former star bb player from somewhere. I give the people of Pennsylvania more credit that that, however. They are smart people and can recognize a double-talker a mile away! A few weeks ago, he was already acting like he was already crowned and Hillary should just throw in the towel. Was that before Ohio and Texas (should he count the rigged caucus as a popular vote)? He is a victim of his own words: "a movie that has run 30 minutes too long".
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 4:10:45 PM
Behind in delegates AND raw vote, yeah I can see why Hilliary is entitled to the nomination... NOT!!! This is NOT England, the're is NO coronation to be had, she has to EARN it. Or politely, and quietly act like a lady (there's a first time of everything) and GET OFF THE STAGE!!! Stop trying to steal the election.
Posted by: cba | Mar 30, 2008 4:12:18 PM
Ain't it just like a man to tell a woman what she can and cannot do! Ain't it just like a woman to put that man back in his place! You gotta love it!
Hillary you go girl!
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 4:16:13 PM
Double Talker! Go back and read OBAMA; PRIMARY 'A GOOD MOVIE THAT LASTED ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR TOO LONG'--double talk is his very nature, talking his way out of a paper bag! Rezko, Wright, "just words speech", NAFTA, family history, race card, you name it. Do you really think you can trust him? I don't.
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 4:23:08 PM
Saddle up boys and girls this is going to be a long and bumpy ride! It ain't over till it's over and then it won't be over!
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 4:23:51 PM
georgia, do you really trust a woman who "misspeaks" and claims that she CAME UNDER SNIPER FIRE?!?!?!
Who does that? What is she trying out for Boys N' The Hood or something?
Posted by: Steve | Mar 30, 2008 4:25:42 PM
I LOVE IT!! While you Dems bicker back and forth, the true American party is becoming more and more dominant in presidential politics.
Thanks in advance for handing us the election.
REPUBLICANS IN '08!!!
Posted by: REPUBLICAN DOMINATION | Mar 30, 2008 4:39:05 PM
Steve: Do you want a man who said that his racial awakening came about as a result of reading an article in Life magizine about a black boy who had disfigured himself with chemicals to lighten up his skin. Well that is a great story but there is one problem it is not true. When Obama was confronted with the fact that Life did not run a story like that he said it was Ebony but Ebony said that it too had not run such a story! So you see Mr. Obama needed a story that would catch peoples attention and make his point regardless if it were true. So knowing this would you still want to vote for him?
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 4:41:10 PM
Good point, Russell. But in all honesty, I'll vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is, Obama or Clinton, because the stakes are too high not to.
Can you say the same? Or does the absence of an Ebony article matter more than American teenagers getting killed over in the middle east for WMDs...I mean regime change...I mean democracy...I mean terrorism...or whatever the current reason is that we went over into Iraq?
Posted by: Steve | Mar 30, 2008 4:44:26 PM
voters are going to have to come to grips with their feelings and support the Dem nominee. Unless Hillary makes a sweep in the next primaries, it quite possibly will be Obama. We have to ask ourselves if giving Bush a third term is really worth it. The Iraq war, failing economy, no health care reforms should be real issues for any democratic voter.
Democrate for the White House !
Posted by: merle7 | Mar 30, 2008 4:52:22 PM
Joan, if roles were reversed, and Hillary (aka the "inevitable" candidate) was in Barack's position...would you be as willing to let the race drag out?
You need only look so far as to people like "republican domination" to see that this is HURTING the democratic party's chances of winning in 2008. I always thought the party was more important that any individual, even if their name happens to be Obama or Clinton.
Posted by: Ashley | Mar 30, 2008 4:53:07 PM
O, those Clinton fans...
would Obama have said that we wanted Hillary to step down, he would have called a coward; but when he says the opposite he nevertheless is a coward.. haha.. you must be really desperate about the man -
and for sound reasons, for how would Hillary have gathered 22000 people at Penn State University?
Maybe when the campaign had leaked that she was going to announce her retreat from the race here?
Let her stay in, if she likes long movies with disastrous endings.
Posted by: Deirdre | Mar 30, 2008 4:54:03 PM
Why should we believe ANYTHING Obama says?
Posted by: macondo | Mar 30, 2008 4:55:09 PM
Oh Peat's sake I am for Obama, I hope and think he'll win, but I'll vote Democratic even if he isn't.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 4:58:53 PM
Steve: Glad you recognize the comparison that I was making. You see I don't mind that Mr. Obama uses this story to tell of his raicia awakening,which I beleive that he really did have. The story even though not real helps make a point that many black men and women struggle to make it in a white dominate society! The same can be said of Hillary's Bosina story. The essential facts were true and there were those who told her that it there maybe some sniper fire, well like Obama she ebellished the story in order to make it out to be more dangerous than it was because it helped her make a point about her forgein policy experience. So you see the use of these stories do not bother me and they should not bother you either because I hope that you are basing your support for Mr. Obama on more substantive issues other than this. MY only complaint is that you and many others are using this as an example why we should not vote for her and I don't think knowing that a politician will embellish the truth once and while is good enough reason to vote against them. Al Gore once said that he invented the internet,yet I and a majority of people voted for him.
Now for your question would will I vote for Obama? Well I must tell you in all honesty I am not sure! I have never voted republican in my life, but I must honestly say that there are things that disturb me quite a lot and I hope in the end that I could but right now I concerned about getting Hillary elected and I know you feel the same about Mr. Obama, at least we can agree on that, and I think thats whats important!
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 5:01:27 PM
Great leadership BO, great vision and great respect of an oponent even if she is making great speeches for McCain. Hillary and Bill are both supporting McCain against Obama. That is sad, that is trist, but the democrats shall prevailand win the WH. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | Mar 30, 2008 5:14:28 PM
What bothers me is that the Clintons view attacks during political campaigns as "sport." (Let's saddle up"??? GIve me a break!) This primary campaign isn't a "sport." It's an opportunity to debate the issues. I admire the Clintons for their years of service to America, but wish they'd stop trying to reduce this campaign to a mud fight.
Hillary has some great ideas...and is truly an honorable person. But, I'd respect her more if she could get her campaign staff to keep their attacks out of the gutter.
Posted by: Denise | Mar 30, 2008 5:15:42 PM
Obama is right. This primary is getting more states involved in the whole election. As long as things are settled by June the GOP doesn't stand a chance in the fall. I do think that the sniper-fire comment has really discredited Hillary to the point where she needs to think about dropping out after April. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | Mar 30, 2008 5:16:45 PM
Hillary will stay until the Dem Convention if necessary and we will back her all the way. You are not asking her to end the race when You Obamas feel like, you are asking the DEMOCRATIC HALF OF THE PARTY to leave and we won't! You can all drop out if you wish...
Posted by: irma | Mar 30, 2008 5:20:25 PM
Obama's has a 180 degree change within the week from saying "the primary is like a good movie half and hour too long." For whatever reasons, he's publicizing the movie about the primary a lot differently. Probably because he got enough flack from him and his campaign staff wanting to end the show so early. I just want to know one thing. Where's the popcorn?
Posted by: katrina | Mar 30, 2008 5:27:38 PM
Obama The sham
Pretending to be mr nice guy to gain a vote.
He lies, turns, twist things, misleads,flip-flops, evades, eludes.
Such an empty shirt
Posted by: seah | Mar 30, 2008 5:35:44 PM
I LOVE democrats like Irma. You should join us. First we'll keep the white house for 12 straight years, then we'll win back Congress, and then we'll appoint conservative justices to the Supreme Court and finally make this country the way it should be.
This is comedy. A few months ago it was "history in the making" and "the first woman" and the "first black man." In November, you guys will come up short, just like you always do.
Thanks!
Posted by: REPUBLICAN DOMINATION | Mar 30, 2008 5:36:03 PM
Steve, I believe if you had made 80 trips to foreign countries, and in this particular case had been told what the dangers were, that "sniper fire had been reported in the mountains around the airport", you also would have been advised of precautions to take. She said she mispoke about one detail, but, if you read her book written years earlier, you would get the full story. She did visit Bosnia when dangers were still possible. She did not mean that sniper fire was over her head at the airport. There was no attempt on her part to be untruthful. I am certain that in other trips, such details would be the case. You are too eager to latch onto a story, and it is not one. If you are looking for truthfulness out of someone, look at your candidate: Rezko, Wright, using someone else's speech as his own, NAFTA, constant double talk to get himself out of trouble. He is either completely ignorant or lying about not knowing the hate speeches of Wright. Even his family history regarding his Selma speech is a lie. He escaped from his copying pf Patrick's speech, because the media never played both tapes fully and side by side. Jake Tapper did on his blog, and it was available on the internet. If the masses watching cable news networks had seen it fully, he would have really looked disengenuous. As it happened, the networks protected him. He is not what others want us to believe. He is a double talker--consistently! Yes, I certainly do trust Hillary! No, I certainly don't trust Obama!
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 5:42:07 PM
Georgia, you're biased. Clinton has as many negatives as Obama does. You just choose to focus on his more because you would prefer Senator Clinton. That's perfectly fine, but your obvious bias weakens your argument considerably.
The bottom line is she tells whoppers, and he tells whoppers. She has clowns supporting her, and he has clowns supporting him. She's been involved with scandal. He's been involved with scandal. And, all that aside, one of them will still win the nomination.
One of them will actually try to get our kids out of Iraq instead of staying there (and possibly going into Iran).
So what's more important to you...who embellishes their record on the campaign trail more, or who is actually going to work to undo the damage that the Republicans have done to this country?
I respect your opinion, georgia, but at the end of the day, we're all democrats. And as Senator Clinton AND Senator Obama have repeatedly said (and this is not an embellishment), either of them is better than a third term for Bush.
Posted by: Steve | Mar 30, 2008 5:50:45 PM
REPUBLICAN DOMINATION: You have no business pointing fingers at Democrats. You have your own worries. Despite McCain being the nominee, there are plenty of words from Romney, Limbaugh, and your conservative right wing to play back in the general election. That, however, is usually the Karl Rove/Newt Gingrich way. John McCain is a respected moderate in many ways, and more trusted than the nutty people in his party. John Kerry and Al Gore could give you the scoop. In the meantime, Democrats are noted for getting to the truth and the importance of things that matter.
If you think your party is the true American party, tell us some of your "good" stories about Nixon and Watergate, Bush and Cheney skewing intelligence data to get us into an unnecessary war in Iraq, Republicans screwing the voters in 2000, and the list is too long, we need a book.
You try to improve your party, and we'll try to improve ours. You have a lot more work to do, I fear.
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 5:56:33 PM
Well that's odd, WestCoastMessenger. Because every credible national poll in the country actually shows Obama running stronger now than he was before Reverend Wrong's comments were aired.
So clearly it hasn't done as much damage to him as some of you apparently hoped it would.
Meanwhile, by the way...Clinton's poll numbers are steadily declining.
So it's Senator Obama's fault, the media's fault, and who else?
Can't blame the right wing establishment, because they actually got voters to the polls to vote FOR Hillary.
So, it is just possible...maybe just a bit...that Clinton is losing because of...CLINTON?
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 5:57:14 PM
The Clintons are intent on 'losing at any cost'. lol
This Clinton 'diva' is intent on mashing up the Democrats' house, just as they did with the White House with Monica Lewinski, and the smashing lost of 2000 that enabled the 7 year Bush-whacking of American lives and economy.
Why take a fight all the way to the Convention if the nomination can be settled before the nomination?
The Super delegates will no doubt come to their senses in a few weeks and RUN FROM WILD HILARY! lol
Bill Clinton has robbed Hilary of all her dignity; and so she doesn't mind taking down the whole Democratic Party with her.
Hilary Clinton is in effect blaming the Democrats and others; because she chose to look the other way while her husband humiliated her time and again with the 'other women'. For shame!
Posted by: New Yorker | Mar 30, 2008 6:00:41 PM
The long campaign was INTERESTING FOR AMRICA, GOOD FOR THE GOP, VERY BAD FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,VERY BAD FOR THE CLINTONS BY DISQUALIFYING THEMSELVES FOR ANY FUTURE POLICAL POSITION AND BAD
FOR YOURSELF, BY buy disqualifying themselves for any future political position and BAD FOR OBAMA, because the Intra-Party attacks have opened the door for the GOP and provoke in November the loss of many fanatic supporters of HILLARY.
Posted by: TOM WITTMANN | Mar 30, 2008 6:02:53 PM
Georgia: Our problems are worse? Are you kidding me? Do you see all of the venom being thrown back and forth on this blog alone by you so called "civil" democrats?
You guys don't stand a chance. You can't even disagree without trashing each other. At least Republicans know how to stick together. Look how soon after the primaries all of the other Republican candidates endorsed McCain. Even Governor Huckabee never had a bad thing to say about him.
On your side, every time you turn around somebody is saying Hillary should drop out, or Obama is only here because he's black.
Get a clue and sign up with the party that's going to run the table in November.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
Posted by: REPUBLICAN DOMINATION | Mar 30, 2008 6:03:20 PM
Sarah,
I guess you haven't been around long enough to understand the Bradley effect.
As I recall, the polls going into New Hampshire had Obama ahead by double digits, and the reverse occurred.
Please stand by as you see Obama's Texas caucus claims evaporate, as being reported by the Houston Chronicle last night, where he lost 7 points from his own original supporters so far.
Also stand by for Pennsylvania, and the ttsunami that results there after.
In the meantime, start looking for recipes for crow. I'm sure you'll figure out a way to make it quite tasty with your own spin.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 6:06:19 PM
And don't give me this stuff about "our candidate will be stronger after a long campaign." When McCain first won the nomination, he was behind both of your candidates in the polls. Now he holds a steady lead on both of them. Your party is flawed because if you can't get what you want, you pout and go home. So there will be a party split and that means...
WE WIN.
Posted by: REPUBLICAN DOMINATION | Mar 30, 2008 6:08:24 PM
Sarah,
By the way, in correction of your poll claim, the most current poll numbers by NBC/Wall Street Journal have Obama and Clinton exactly even. Gallup has a 1 point difference, within margin of error.
So please explain how the polls are running away for Obama after the Jeremiah Wright story, and also while you are at it, explain why Obama has not been able to close the deal?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 6:10:34 PM
WestCoastMessenger, enlighten me...what is the Bradley effect?
And what election results are you looking at that showed Obama losing by double digits in New Hampshire? The way I remember it, Clinton cried and sympathetic women came out to vote for her. I'm pretty sure she barely won. It was a narrow victory. But to you it was a victory nonetheless.
So will you concede that Obama winning by a narrow margin right now is still..Obama winning?
Such a double standard with some people.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:12:50 PM
Russell, I have to take issue with the statement that Al Gore said he invented the internet. He talked of his support and leadership, and someone skewed his words to say that he invented it. We do have to trust people and their "words", all of their words.
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 6:13:50 PM
WestCoastMessenger - Again pointing out your double standard, "close the deal?" Wasn't Senator Clinton supposed to be the "inevitable" candidate just a few months ago? Now it's Obama that can't "close the deal?"
Please tell me why Senator Clinton can't close the deal. Or narrow the gap for that matter. Also explain to me why she continues to lose superdelegates and Senator Obama continues to win them. And explain to me why Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell is so desperate (and clearly sees the writing on the wall) that he is trying to float the idea of the eventual Democratic nominee pledging to pick the loser as his/her VP candidate?
I may not have been around very long as you put it, but I certainly don't remember any of Clinton's surrogates floating such an idea back when she was "inevitable."
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:17:49 PM
dl: Come on man did you read his book "Dreams From My Father"? He explicitly tells a story when he was 9yrs old that he saw a picture of a black boy who was difigured by using chemicals to lighten his skin. Life magizine is on record as saying that no such story ever ran,so did Ebony! The Chicago Tribune look at this story exhaustively even went to Indonesia and they were unable to verify it! So now you are say this is what he was baseing his awakening on! Well if that makes you feel better then go right ahead! What about the Selma Lie,the lie about the Kennedy's and his father that was in the Washington Post today, I could go on but you get my point! The story about the little black boy was not true and if this is his story now how does it differ from Hillary? He rememered wrong and so did she! Question Moot!
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 6:18:02 PM
And since you want to talk poll numbers, let's talk about the latest USA TODAY poll that shows Obama with a statistically "significant" lead over Clinton. Yeah, they say "significant," not me.
So you see, WestCoastMessenger, you can spin polls any way you want. But if I were you, I'd be a little worried if one of my candidate's biggest mouth pieces (Governor Ed Rendell) was on national TV trying to force the democratic winner (probably Obama) to pick the democratic...non-winner.
Seems to me like a little bit of desperation.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:22:09 PM
Sarah,
I have never anointed Clinton as an inevitable candidate. Your problem may be that you are sucked in easily by media-speak.
Clinton will win the popular vote nationally, and close the deal. Meanwhile, Dean and Pelosi, all the while sucking down lattes will ensure that the working class Democrats in states like Florida and Michigan will be excluded.
Check out politics page on ABC News. You'll see that Clinton and Obama are within 100K on the popular vote. That difference will reverse by a fivefold factor after Pennsylvania, at which time the Obama Zombie Nation will start screaming "She stold the election!".
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 6:25:14 PM
"Iron my shirt?" No, I'm pretty sure it had to do with Senator Clinton bursting into tears.
If Senator Obama had gotten emotional, you would probably say that he wasn't strong enough to be commander in chief.
Again...double standard.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:25:55 PM
Georgia: Well I not sure that he said it either Georgia but because of the media it became a truth,that is it became a political truth,not an intellectual truth. So it stuck and it followed him througout the campaigh. I think he also made a comment that the movie Love Story was based on him an Tipper! That too was exploited by Bush to insinuate that he could not tell the truth.
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 6:26:10 PM
The Republican bystander is enjoying this discussion of the "long primary". He needs to look at his own party's history on that, if he really is a Republican. Whoever that bystander is, read a little more history. Newt Gingrich could probably give him a little history...or Cheney, or Bush. People to really be proud of.
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 6:26:40 PM
WestCoastMessenger - Have you forgotten about North Carolina...where Senator Obama currently has a 21 point lead?
That's not exactly a small state, sir. And it will likely offset any victory Senator Clinton has in Pennsylvania.
Also, careful about setting up Pennsylvania as some sort of huge firewall for Clinton. The higher you build up the wall, the harder it will come crashing down if her margin of victory is not as large as you are hoping for.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:28:40 PM
so russell
the lie about selma where he says he was born out of the selma match...yeah...there is a literary born and a birth born...
the kennedy lie where the woman in charge of the program said the "kennedy money went to help the education of students (of which baracks father was a part of) who had already been flown over?
and the Life magazine article ... being in Look magazine and that he reports having SEEN when HE was 9 years old?
Russell you are unbelievable and reaching where others have already apologized for being mistaken...or blowing something up that wasn't there.
and WestCoastMessenger...Gallup has Obama up by 10 not 1...and growing...for the past few days...
Posted by: dl | Mar 30, 2008 6:28:43 PM
Sarah: What poll was it that said that she would lose in N.H.,California,NJ,TX,Oh.
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 6:28:52 PM
...and also westcoast the houston article is that the article where they talk about Obama being up 60 to Sen. Clintons 40?
Posted by: dl | Mar 30, 2008 6:29:46 PM
The best post I've seen all day.
YES WE CAN!
Posted by: THANK YOU pt! | Mar 30, 2008 6:30:23 PM
Sarah,
Again, that's the Bradley effect. Newsweek has reported on this phenomenon. Again, look up the recipes for crow and let me know how it tastes.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 6:30:48 PM
The issue with Jeremiah Wright was out over a year ago, just ask Fox News. This is not new, its just being played over and over this time, because they didn't think he would go very far they left the issue alone.
But what is not being told is what comes before and after those 30 second soundbites. I believe most people are intelligent enough to do their own research. That is probably why Obama's numbers have gone back up. Some of the things Wright said DO sound terrible, AS the soundbite. Listen to the entire sermon....it all sounds totally different.
Obama is running for president, not his pastor, not his parents (both deceased), not his sister, not his cousins....not even his supporters.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 30, 2008 6:32:54 PM
I'll just borrow it from you, WestCoastMessenger. I have a feeling you were one of those armchair pundits who thought it would be over after Super Tuesday. I mean the original Super Tuesday. Not the subsequent ones that the Clinton campaign keeps retreating to every time they lose.
;-)
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:32:55 PM
The fact is Russell and West Coast and the rest...the country is coming in to a more enlightened time (whew) and people are starting to finally wake up from the long hypnosis that was the Clintons as saviors of the Democratic party...
It is going to be President Obama and a great moment in history.
Too bad when your children ask you will have to say you were one of those fighting for Clinton.
...and, no, I am pretty confident you will be like my grandparents when they are asked about Kennedy "He was just a hyped politician" and MLK "what was his problem just an outrageously offensive loud preacher."
my grandparents are great but that is not one of those things I am proud of them for. What will your grandchildren say?
Posted by: dl | Mar 30, 2008 6:34:49 PM
Russell I am trying to point out how we have a chance to make a change...
and how we have been duped for far to long by the Clintons...for the good of the Clintons...
I don't have to tell you Obama's mistakes ...he already has.
Posted by: dl | Mar 30, 2008 6:36:28 PM
dl: I hope You can get him elected even though 28% of Hillarys people will vote for McCain, because of people like you!
Posted by: russell | Mar 30, 2008 6:46:45 PM
Sarah,
Nothing worse than borrowed crow, but sorry, I don't have any to loan, can't imagine what it tastes like.
I guess I could offer you leftovers but I didn't participate in any of the crow buffets that the Obama team had when they had to shed Wright from the campaign. I doubt they had any leftovers.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 6:47:30 PM
Russell - We're in the middle of a contentious campaign. Of course the people supporting one candidate are going to say they won't support the guy that's beating their candidate.
But when we get past all of this high school level drama about who's bullying who and who's playing the race card and actually get back to issues that matter like:
1. Iraq
2. The Economy
3. Jobs and Health Care
I think that 28% number will come way, way down.
Posted by: Mike | Mar 30, 2008 6:49:14 PM
Oh they did, WestCoastMessenger. The shipment of crow almost didn't make it, though. Apparently it came under heavy sniper fire and had to make some sort of "corkscrew" landing.
But no worries...the pilot was just "sleep deprived."
LOL!
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:50:48 PM
DL,
Nope, dig in to the Politics section, age, it's the one that says that Clinton has captured the lead in the at-large delegates and that Obama lost seven delegates and has zero representation in an entire county because not enough of Obama's reps from the original caucuses even showed up. The Texas outcome is going to be a laugher for Obama.
I think you'll have a lot of these Obama newbies drop out totally and not even show up for the national convention. The Obama hearts are not in it for the long haul in Texas.
Welcome to Democracy Jesse Jackson style. You got a long fight to go and the base is strong enough to shake you half-hearted newbies off the ropes.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 6:53:21 PM
"Jesse Jackson" style? What does Jesse Jackson have to do with the race between Senator Obama and Senator Clinton?
Posted by: Mike | Mar 30, 2008 6:54:56 PM
I just looked up the Bradley effect, and it's racial in nature.
So let me get this straight, WestCoastMessenger. When the polls show that Hillary's up, they are accurate. When polls show that Obama is up, they are based on the Bradley effect?
So when you cite Gallup poll numbers that favor your preferred candidate, they're credible. But when I cite today's Gallup poll numbers that show Obama opening up a statistically significant lead on Clinton, we should not rely on them because Obama suffers from the Bradley effect.
If that's not the biggest double standard I've seen lately...I don't know what is. Give me a break.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 6:59:40 PM
You do realize that based on your logic, the only polls that are credible are the ones where Hillary is leading?
Interesting. I've never seen the accuracy of a poll be contingent upon who the poll indicates is currently leading.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 30, 2008 7:01:39 PM
The sniper-fire comment has really hurt Hillary. This was not just a lie but a BAD lie. Did she think people would vote for her because she ran to her car with her hands on her head? This lie was also insulting to the troops that are in harms way everyday. Obama 2008!!
Posted by: pt | Mar 30, 2008 7:08:02 PM
There are two types of super delegates.
Accountable Super Delegates: elected officials in the dem party. Theoretically these people are accountable when up for re-election.
Unaccountable Super Delegates: These are primarily made up of party bosses, hacks, apparatchiks and the like.
The candidate are virtually tied in the Accountable Supers.
Among the Unaccountable Super Delegates, Hillary holds a lead. This accounts for her edge in the super delegate count.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 30, 2008 7:14:14 PM
Sarah, you should have watched the entire program. Rendell said that all of the primaries should be completed, plus revotes in Michigan and Florida. He was asked a question that if it became important enough, Cuomo's plan might be a solution. He was not advocating Cuomo's plan right now. You obviously have twisted his words to mean something else. You are spinning.
Posted by: georgia | Mar 30, 2008 7:52:05 PM
Westcoastmessanger,
I do not know where you get your information but according to the Associated Press today 3/30/08 Obama so far is in the lead for delegates to the Texas State convention with 60%
Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 8:11:19 PM
Sen Obama want the nomination to continue so that Hill could collect more donations to pay all the unpaid bills from the Clinton campaigh and that of personal loan of $5 million. But after the Pensylvania primary the Clinton fund will dry out, there is now a manifestation of that by floating an Obama- Clinton dream ticket which is actually a nightmare. Halloween is now approaching any way.
Posted by: alexis compton | Mar 30, 2008 8:11:54 PM
Looking at the superdelegate number Hillary has and the total number of dedicated delegates obama has, Hillary only has to find at least 78 more delegates and convince obama's superdelegates that she is a better candidate for the job., so, yes she is still in this race for democratic nominee. Another note, Ron Paul has not officially dropped out of the race and he will not concede to Mccain and since he said people are still welcome to vote for him. This begs the question. will he put his name on the November ballot? Or even ask that space be left for write-ins? Hoping to win the presidency yet? And form the nation in the pattern that he has stood for since he ran as a libertarian?
Posted by: Daeson | Mar 30, 2008 8:23:28 PM
Penn is a key battle for both candidates...
It will show who gets the final momentum after all the recent dramas...
So stay tuned...
Posted by: True Truth | Mar 30, 2008 9:25:46 PM
The problem with the people telling you that Clintons supporters will get in line is they are all men and for the most part we are all women so for those of you who don't know much about women we never forget it can be ten years and will still be mad about what is going on and we like fair and this race has been any thing but count MI.and FL.
Posted by: Bishop | Mar 30, 2008 9:40:11 PM
So why, after yesterday Obama said the primary had lasted a half hour too long, does thisstory have a headline about how this primary "has been great for america?"
Could the bias be any greater? Good grief, why don't reporters just lay on the floor for him to walk over?
Could reporters PLEASE point out the consistencies of his statements from one day to the next, instead of fawning over him? Or is that asking too much?
Posted by: Beth Bales | Mar 30, 2008 9:43:07 PM
Clinton is in the lead in Texas so CNN say on the POT ticker 60 Clinton 40 Obama
Posted by: Bishop | Mar 30, 2008 9:43:44 PM
Obama said that the race has lasted a half hour too long because normally this race would have been over by super tuesday. You have to agree with that. This is one long race. I'll be glad when it's over
Posted by: maryland | Mar 30, 2008 9:49:31 PM
ROFLOL you guys are so funny, so cool to watch. this has been interesting to see a brawl between supporters of candidates. who will win? I care but the better question is who here cares to say? This is fun. I hope everyone goes away from this healthy wealthy and wise. I'll be praying for you all that you don't hurt yourselves or anyone elses feelings. Yes , I believe In Jesus Christ. I am a Christ follower. Should I use the name christian? there is such a controversy around that term and those that claim that they are. the proff is how well do People reflect in their actions the whole summation of the Holy Bible? there is also the issue of what are truely the words of the Bible and what are added words and words taken out of context. God bless.
Posted by: Daeson | Mar 30, 2008 9:56:01 PM
The delegates from Fl and MI will be seated. We need them to win this election. The dems aren't that stupid. I don't know maybe they are. But all this fighting has got to stop.
Posted by: maryland | Mar 30, 2008 10:02:20 PM
CIA: Pakistan border 'clear and present danger'
Director tells NBC that any al-Qaida attack would likely originate there
Gosh, I thought it was Iraq.
Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 10:03:03 PM
Oh ok Obamaknew I understand now. But let me ask you.....Don't you think the DNC knows all about Obama. Yet they still want him to be the nominee, why is that. And I not being condescending. I am just trying to understand why some of you think he is a cult leader yet a lot of politicans think he would be the best thing for our country.
Posted by: maryland | Mar 30, 2008 10:11:04 PM
ABC reports under Politics this week on the home page
That Obama leads Texas with 60% with half of the delagtes selected so far.
Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 10:21:28 PM
Sarah,
If you look at cause and effect, once the press got its hands on the Wright story, coupled with the treatment that Obama got by the gushing press, Americans being asked polls are doing anything and everything they can to to avoid being tagged in a database as anti-Obama for fear of what this might mean in the future. Who is going to run intelligence for Obama in the future, McPeak? There's a comforting thought, huh.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 30, 2008 10:30:52 PM
Looks like Obama will be busy with the Rezko trial pretty soon...watch the trial notes...he runs with crooks and bigots and you consider him for President?! I don't think so!
HILLARY HAS THE SOLUTIONS!!!
Posted by: Di | Mar 30, 2008 10:53:07 PM
Russell
You can go vote for McCain if you think he will be better than Obama ...you should.
People aren't voting for McCain instead of Obama because of me...(had too many people on here tell me otherwise) ...people will vote for McCain instead of Obama because they are angry fooled voters who are having a tough time breaking this self-brainwashing we have been through for 15 years...they can't get out of...and some people (unfortunately like yourself) go to anger and nasty words toward people who are just throwing out facts.
I can't help that.
Posted by: dl | Mar 30, 2008 10:54:33 PM
westcoast messenger
you should check your sources with the houston chronicle because they are saying now (and earlier when I checked the first time) that Obama was holding his ground...and it looked like Clinton was going to lose the state overall.
Posted by: dl | Mar 30, 2008 10:56:04 PM
Obamaknew, I understand all that but how do you explain the DNC. They know all about him yet they want him as the nominee anyway. Why is that. And I may not agree with people here but I will never call them names. I respect everyone's opinion.
Posted by: maryland | Mar 30, 2008 11:05:41 PM



