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Obama on Clinton: 'I Don’t Know Where All that Experience Got Her'

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March 02, 2008 5:24 PM

ABC’s Sunlen Miller and David Wright Report: Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton exchanged barbs while campaigning in the same city in Ohio today.

Obama responded to Clinton's criticisms that he's offering only speeches to voters, a charge apparently aimed to bring into question Obama's foreign policy experience.

First, Obama blamed the press for buying into the argument in order to keep the race interesting. Then, he pinpointed Clinton.

"Sen. Clinton has been running around telling people that our entire campaign, according to her, is only based on the fact that I gave a speech in opposition to the war in Iraq, and that is the only basis of my campaign, and she supposedly has amassed all this foreign policy experience," Obama told the crowd in Westerville, Ohio, "I have to say when it came to making the most important foreign policy decision of our generation, Sen. Clinton got it wrong."

He said Clinton’s failed to read the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq before voting to authorize war as evidence.

"I don't know where all that experience got her, because I have enough experience to know that if you have a national intelligence estimate," he said, "the chairman of the senate intelligence committee says, ‘You should read this; that's why I voted against the war,’ then you should probably read it."

Playing off a recent Clinton campaign ad that asks who Americans want picking up the phone at 3 a.m., Obama issued a challenge of sorts: "Besides the decision to invade Iraq, we're still waiting to hear, Sen. Clinton, what precise foreign policy experience she's claiming to answer the phone at 3 in the morning."

Obama ended his remarks with a slightly new tone: "This has been a long contest on the Democratic side, and we’ve had strong candidates throughout. Sen. Clinton is a fine candidate. And you know I tried as much as possible to spend my campaign talking not about the flaws of the other candidates but why I am running."

The event in Weterville is Obama’s last Ohio event before the March 4 primary. He will spend the next two days campaigning throughout Texas.

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Perfect example of his arrogance and superior attitude. Mr. Obama , you peaked too soon. People are waking us and realizing you're just not ready. Hopefully Hillary will ask you to be her VP, so you will have a great future after learning the ropes.

Posted by: Jay | Mar 2, 2008 5:29:59 PM

Hey Barack, Jay Rockefeller, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee voted FOR the resolution authorizing use of force in Iraq.

Posted by: max | Mar 2, 2008 5:34:52 PM

By the same token, I don't know where all that hope got Obama. He hopes he wins I guess, but he has a surprise coming. These youngsters always start with the chicken dancin' as soon as they feel they may win. We'll see where all this chicken dancin' gets Mr. Obama.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 2, 2008 5:37:41 PM

I find his points persuasive:
1) Clinton had the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, but did not read it
(2) She did not read it and made the wrong decision for America that has already wasted $500,000,000,000, almost 4,000 American military lives, made refugees of 2,000,000 Iraqis and caused us to not to deal with the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.
(3) Neither she nor her surrogates can point to ANY Clinton experience that demonstrates any other foreign policy decision she made.
What am I missing?

Posted by: zoe | Mar 2, 2008 5:40:33 PM

How come everyone is saying that Sen Clinton should get out now in order not to divide the party but no one says that about Huckabee who has no chance of catching up to McCain, it seems like there is a double standard for women. The general election is not until November, a lot can happen between now and then. Women are getting tired of people teling them that a women who is smart and experience should bow down to make a man happy who's less qualified. In this country men get paid more than women for the same job, it is an insult to women to tell Sen Clinton to back down before June. If Sen Obama can't handle the heat than maybe he should get out the kitchen.

Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | Mar 2, 2008 5:51:03 PM

Senator Obama has never told Hillary to get out of the race or the kitchen.
If she wants to fight until June then that is her choice.
A protracted fight will injure the party and cause even more hard feelings than currently exist. She seems good with that option.

Posted by: Chip | Mar 2, 2008 5:54:50 PM

zoe - you are missing a lot because you are allowing campaign rhetoric to influence you on that issue. The vote was to authorize force in support of the UN Inspectors if and only if WMDs were found. The WH lied and said they would not use the authority for a pre-emptive war. It is inappropriate for the Obama camp to mislead voters into thinking he authorized war because that is not what was voted on. He stated in 2003-2004 timeframe that he did not have the information to review (because he was not cleared for it) and did not know how he would have voted has he been given the responsibility to do so. She has stated she would take that vote back after the truth came out about how the WH lied. This is the same as Edwards and many others who voted to authorize military support for the UN Inspectors and to support the WH if and only if WMD's were found. Obama's own endorsers were among the many who voted the same way Clinton did. I still trust her judgement more than his because he has not convinced me he can do anything more than give speeches. Senator Clinton gives great speeches in my opinion too... the difference is, she has proven to me what she can and has done. He needs more time to develop the experience and good judgement "under fire".

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 5:56:12 PM

Chip - Obama's camp Axelrod specifically stated in an interview this morning that Clinton should step out of the race. So you are not right about that. He is accountable for the words and actions of those who work for him. He is wrong to dismiss the "will of the voters" of the remaining states as irrelevant.

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 5:58:32 PM

Oh give me a break Obama!! Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a "new strategy" in Afghanistan, a country he has never visited.

Obama was absent from a January 31 meeting this year, and also was not present for a hearing on Sept. 21, 2006. He did attend a March 8, 2007 hearing on a new Afghanistan strategy.

On Feb. 15, 2007, Obama also missed a committee hearing on U.S. ambassadors to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now all of a sudden he knows exactly what to do or not do about all the issue in Iraq and Afghanistan. Right!!!!

Posted by: SJ | Mar 2, 2008 6:17:51 PM

DC Voter - I know that's what Sen Clinton has said, and I think she really believes that about the vote not being a vote for war.

It raises more questions about her judgment. I lived through that; so did you. On the news, in the office cubicles, everywhere people were talking about this vote at that time, it was recognized as a vote for war.

To now claim some nuanced difference of opinion on the vote is either disingenuous or reflective of an inability to see what is happening around her.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 2, 2008 6:28:00 PM

Looks like Obama is going negative and very dismissive of an opponent. Can tell from his body language.

Posted by: MattOhio | Mar 2, 2008 6:31:24 PM

I think this is a good line of contrast for Obama. Bottom line is neither has significant foreign policy experience, but if it does go past Tuesday, Obama can start pointing to Clinton gaffes regarding foreign and security policy.

There's been more than a couple. Her comments about Taiwan and use of nuclear weapons illustrate an ignorance of U.S. policy. If she's adamant about keeping this race going, Obama might as well beat her on national security as a means of mitigating that potential deficit against McCain.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 2, 2008 6:31:41 PM

I think Obama is talking like the race is over because he does not want everyone to see how he is not a uniter. The core party voters still support Clinton while his supporters are the rich left wing side of the party plus the new voters and disgruntled Reps and Indies. Let's see... if we do the math based on voter turnouts (I have done the math using numbers published at GMU) it appears the country is still split between the Dem and Rep parties meaning the Indies are split and the Dem party is split between Obama and Clinton. Hmm... he has failed to be a uniter just as Bush failed. It takes more than just great speeches to unite people. I give him credit for admitting that he does not know how he would have voted "under fire" but I do not give him credit for misleading people into thinking he will know because he has failed to do the job he was elected to do and has not voted differently than Clinton on any war related issue since becoming a Senator. Michelle Wie was a phenom golfer but when she had to perform "under fire" she wimped out. She needed more time to develop good judgement "under fire" and so does Obama. Who do you trust to keep you safe... your mother who has been keeping you safe or your brother who steps up arrogantly and says he can do it better?

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 6:35:34 PM

What Obama is missing to let everyone know is that there were a lots of senators that did not read the NIE report. He has to stop acting as if Hillary is the only one.

There were 3 copies of this report and the fact of the matter is if the administration tell you something, briefing after briefing you are getting reports do you then take the view that the administration is lying, especially after the 9/11 events.

I don't think anyone at the time wanted to say the administration was lying and did not have the best interest of the USA.

Is that the claim that Obama is making that the administration was lying? Those who complied the NIE report was lying, the Republican were lying. This man is not only dividing the Democrat party he is he is also destroying the image of the office of the President and administration just for the sake of his own personal power, it is truly a shame.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 2, 2008 6:36:11 PM

Its funny how Obama is held to an entirely different standard than all the other candidates....are you holding hillary's feet to the fire for missing anything (how about voting) while she campaigns for president, or is it just Obama that isn't supposed to miss anything?
Oh, and how about those tax returns? The only response hillary gives to that is, 'let's talk about Rezko'....yeah, that's equivalent.
There is nothing there when it comes to Rezko, but I'm sure there will be something created. It has to be.

People are not 'waking up' to Obama, it just so happens that most of the people that don't want him in office still have yet to vote. No one cares that he won 11 states and the majority of the people in those states are saying 'it's time to turn the page'....the ones who still have yet to vote are going to make sure he does not win this election.

Ohio and Texas want bill and hillary back in the white house...so let the drama begin.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 2, 2008 6:37:36 PM

Obama claims not to have discussed the weaknesses of the other candidates. This is nonsense. He has criticized Clinton from the time he entered the race -- in fact, he has criticized her entire generation and said he wants to turn the page on it. (He doesn't say what he wants to reject of the Boomers: civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, environmentalism.) He has criticized her approach to health care and to Iraq. His campaign and his wife have suggested strongly that they will not support a Clinton nominee,while Clinton has repeatedly and unequivocally said she will support Obama. It is his right to criticize her, but claiming he has not done is part of his holier-than-thou stance that no one really takes a hard look at.

Posted by: CAM | Mar 2, 2008 6:39:49 PM

oh, and by the way SJ way to distort and accuse Obama of being divisive. I can tell you have been watching hillary very closely.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 2, 2008 6:40:04 PM

Hillary, the 1st to lose all the way to the nomination. She needs Obama in the end. He will not need her to get elected in the fall.

Posted by: John Compton | Mar 2, 2008 6:41:54 PM

If Hilary has so much experience in dealing with issues in Washington. Why is our country in the crisis it's in? Why has her campaign made so many bad decision and squandered many of her donors hard earn dollars. why want Hilary release her tax returns? Let's remember the Bill and Hilary Clinton Experience when they were in the white house. During the Clinton Presidency years I remember experiencing their numerous scandals, Lies, deception, that brought shame to this Great Nation. Do we want to experience this again? Just Think About It.

Posted by: Another Ron | Mar 2, 2008 6:43:33 PM

Obama did not read the NIE report he had no authority to, he was not part of the daily briefing either so he is in a position to say anything and since he was not part of the senate no one can prove otherwise.

Most of his endorser did not read the NIE report and there is information to show that they did not, they also voted to go to war so exactly what is Obama's point.

Would he question the judgment of his endorsers also or is he going to ignore that fact too?

Posted by: SJ | Mar 2, 2008 6:45:20 PM

Hillary does not and will not need Obama for the Election. She will go for Edwards. I can bet on this and never being able to see Michelle Obama(America-hater) being patriotic very confidently.

Hillary-Edwards '08

Posted by: MattOhio | Mar 2, 2008 6:45:28 PM

Hillary Clinton has already destroyed the party. She has distorted and lied her way through this campaign, and the ignorant hang on her every word.
Well my chance to vote is coming, and she will not be getting my vote.

So CAM, as standards go, Obama is not permitted to respond to attacks now?
lol you are all so daggone pitiful! Let's tear down Obama. Ok, so where do you think all his votes will go???

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 2, 2008 6:45:51 PM

Paul - good to see you. Comparing the voting records it is clear that since becoming a US Senator, Obama voted the same as Clinton on most national security issues. So I dont think he will be able to draw much contrast there at all. In fact, if he could I think he would have already done it since he was challenged to do so by Clinton. You already know my preference of candidates.

While I dont think much will change for anyone's preferences, it is evident the numbers are close enough that it could go either way. I think the party and the country has the right to know who the preferred candidate is after all the states have participated not just those up until next Wednesday.

It is absolutely wrong IMHO for Axelrod and Richardson and others to tell Clinton to step out of the race period. I think it is very cowardly of Obama to not be willing to finish the race as is.

Think about it: if one of them steps down, that will not unite the party anymore than they are now. If they both go the distance, the loser can endorse the winner and attempt to unite the party. I think voters would be more accepting of a fair race instead of arguing about who "could have or would have won" and never knowing the real outcome.

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 6:46:10 PM

Why would anyone Trust Bill and Hilary Clinton?
Why would anyone want a rerun of Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton? I live through the Clinton years when he was president and she was first lady. Let’s take a look at the sad blast from the Past. Clinton years full of scandals, Whitewater, Allegations of affairs. one of his accusers attempted to sue him for sexual harassment while he was a sitting president a disgrace and embarrassment to all women and Americans around the world. He raised taxes; He signed NAFTA into Law, Causing Millions of Workers to lose their jobs to outsourcing for cheap labor at the expense of hard working families in this country. Bill Clinton disgraced this country and was almost IMPEACHEd for lying about having an alleged sexual relationship with a young woman in the white House. He pardon Known criminals. Finally I cannot forget the David Koresh event where many innocent children died in Waco Texas, Bin Laden could have been captured and 911 would not have happen. Should I go on.......... Time will not permit all of the negative. Why would anyone want a rerun of Bill and Hilary Clinton as President?

Posted by: Another Ron | Mar 2, 2008 6:50:31 PM

DC Voter - I didn't reference voting records. She's made some statements that illustrate her ignorance - despite the '35 years of experience.'

With regard to voting for emergency spending bills to support the military efforts, what you say is true. And if the Democrats as a whole hadn't financially supported the troops in a combat theater, the political winds right now would be behind the Republicans instead of the Democrats. It was what they had to do.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 2, 2008 6:50:55 PM

Their numerous scandals were investigated and properly vetted and no charges were ever filed, so this talk of scandals is really old bath water. I remember the Clinton years as years of peace, prosperity, good wages, plentiful jobs, and a solid economy and a huge surplus. Of course to all the Obamabots, they were not responsible for any of that, they were just sitting there for 8 years and were lucky. What a CROCK!!!

Posted by: Jay | Mar 2, 2008 6:51:20 PM

Where'd all that experience get her?

Well for starters she got to see the inside of the White House for 8 years, which is 8 more than you and your spouse will ever see.

Secondly, it got her New York, California, Massachusetts, Michigan, Florida (where you ran ads all day long and still got your a$$ kicked), New Jersey, and probably is going to get her Ohio.

If you can't win big democratic states in a primary you damn sure aren't going to win the country. Winning Idaho, Alaska, Utah, North Dakota, Nebraska, and Iowa don't mean a thing, cause in November Obama you don't have a hope or one of your 'I pray to Jesus every night - after my sermon in that Farrakhan loving church' prayers.

You have lied about everything from Selma convincing your parents to get together and have you (you were born 4 years before Selma), to the fact that you were NOT a constituional lawyer, but rather a somewhat pathetic senior lecturer ON LEAVE. And as for Dad, he was no more a goat herder then Hillary. He was a well paid Goverment employee. And as for that Ethics Bill you wrote? You didn't write a line of it. And as for that Nuclear Bill to help out your campaign donor, Exelon? Even your own party threw it right back into your face.

This fraud will never be president. Not because of race or religion, but because his resume is an invention and his history is fantasy. He is the James Frey of politics - A Million Tiny Lies.

Oprah should have a show on The Audacity Of Hope. She can retitle it 'The Audacity To Lie'.

Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | Mar 2, 2008 6:56:55 PM

Paul - I agree the Dems did what they had to do and that was support the troops. We simply cannot abandon them or those who have helped them.

On foreign policy statements any of them make or decisions they make, since none of us as voters are privvy to the details they are, isnt it all really an issue of trust?

I certainly do not claim to be a foreign policy expert and do not believe any one Senator is because it is just not possible. We do not expect them all to know everything about everything but we do expect them to represent our values and interests. Obama and Clinton share almost identical values and interests and have almost identical platforms. The difference to me between them is that Clinton has more experience under fire and a stronger resume. Therefore, I trust her more than him.

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 6:59:20 PM

Plenty of Washington insiders have Experience. What we need is someone who as a better persepctive, and the courage to put it on the table. I'm sick of the same old same old. I want someone with energy and vision and well as a sincerity.

BARACK OBAMA

Posted by: anya | Mar 2, 2008 7:00:07 PM

We need someone with the courage to vote "present".???
Kennedy, Kerry and Rockefeller, but he is sick of the same old same old...
Energy he's got. Vision and sincerity are written in his speeches by his writers.

Posted by: Jay | Mar 2, 2008 7:06:08 PM

Jay - LOL actually I think most of his supporters dont remember those years because they were too young. They are also too young to remember any movements relating to civil rights, womens rights, and human rights. They are too young to have experienced first hand discrimination, beatings, and inhumane treatment. They live in a country that has a great deal more equality today (even though much more progress is needed that I can personally attest to) because of the sacrifices made by people over the age of 45. Even if our education system were up to par (which it is not) and taught them the real truth about these things, having not experienced it they cannot know the depth of sacrifice and fight that Senator Clinton and people like her have endured. He was right about one thing... the community still today has not embraced the visions of Dr. King and his own wife is not embracing it in his campaign.

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 7:08:53 PM

I'm tired of the shrill pro-Clinton and the shrill pro-Obama remarks. Obama is not going to sell out the country. We've had almost 16 years of rude, inflammatory political "discourse" and it is long past time it stopped. I think it's great that for the first time an African-American and a female are serious candidates for president. Now while we need to make up our own minds, I will suggest some reasons why I don't believe Ms. Clinton is presidential material. AND before her supporters go ballistic, these objections are based on observations of Ms. Clinton in action.

The first characteristic I think we need from a president is an ability to lead. Ms. Clinton has not demonstrated that. As Ms. Doud noted in her column, Ms. Clinton has complained about being asked the first question in debates. I’m sorry, but there are real issues to deal with. For someone of Ms. Clinton’s experience it is completely ludicrous for her to complain about something so petty. Her experience should inform her about how ridiculous her complaints are however accurate. Secondly, while I think that a completely consistent candidate shows little to no capacity for growth, on the other hand a candidate who is unable to articulate a consistent theme is also concerning. In other words, I think that the charge of “flip flopping” is over used, over rated, and overdone. Nonetheless, Ms. Clinton’s performance since she found her voice in New Hampshire does not inspire confidence. The voice continues to change. Thirdly, her critiques of Mr. Obama are often so lacking substance that it's hard to take her seriously. The old adage about people in glass houses not throwing stones holds here. Take for example the charge of plagiarism. It wasn't, it was shown not to be, and Ms. Clinton has been shown to use phrases and thoughts from others that she has also not attributed to their author. There isn't much room on this. Either she isn't aware of her own behaviors which would call into question her ability to monitor her own behaviors or she is and does it anyhow - which means she's hoping that people will buy it what is at best hypocrisy. My next objection is that Ms. Clinton as president will have to respond quickly and decisively to new situations. Her response to finding herself loosing to Mr. Obama since “Super Tuesday” would indicate that she will have difficulty doing so. My point is this. Her whole campaign was predicated on the assumption that she would have the nomination wrapped up by then. That didn’t happen. That it didn’t is not the issue. Life happens. But the way Ms. Clinton has responded by downplaying the significance of the states in which she lost, totally ignoring Wisconsin when she lost and making excuses for those losses when she acknowledged them suggests a leader who will blame others when things do not go her way. We think of her as being battle tested. I know I did. But now as I observe the campaign, I think that she has been “smear” tested. Whatever testing she has endured and in all fairness she has, it has not been as a leader having to make decisions. And now when it is, her responses do not suggest a capacity to respond to crisis’s in any that makes me feel safe that she is the one answering the red phone in the White House.

There are indications that the reason that Ms. Clinton's campaign is in trouble in part because she has selected her team based on loyalty rather than competence. I've already had almost eight years of that and I really, really, really don't want to see more. We need competent leadership. The challenges are real. But Ms. Clinton's actions suggest an inability to do so despite her much touted experience.

Posted by: Rhys | Mar 2, 2008 7:08:58 PM

Someone wrote all of the scandals were invistagated? If Hilary is Prsident Expect More Scandals deceptions,and 4 years of Investigations, and who will lose we the American People. Why would anyone Want a Rerun of Bill and Hilary Clinton?

Posted by: Another Ron | Mar 2, 2008 7:10:42 PM

DC Voter - it is an issue of trust. Right now I think most Republicans laugh if you ask if Clinton is trusted with national security issues. Even the TV pundits were amazed she went with red phone ad, because in the end its not an intuitive choice that it would be Hillary we prefer to be answering that call.

Inside the Democratic Party, she is given some benefit of doubt; mostly by those who don't question whether she really has 35 years of public experience.

If the red phone (or off-white, in this case) ad shows some effect in Texas, Obama and the Republicans will both take notice. He'll have to transition into someone who can hit back on national security - at the expense of Hillary - to demonstrate to the Republicans that there's a price to pay for going there.

That's been the subtext of the last couple weeks, with McCain probing and Obama answering. They're testing general election waters.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 2, 2008 7:13:14 PM

Sorry Rhys, your wordy and long document is trying to say that campaigning for the presidency and being the President are one in the same. They are not.
There is a huge distinction in how anyone would operate running for a job, and then being hired for that job.

Posted by: Jay | Mar 2, 2008 7:13:22 PM

I think Obama is an arrogant, pompous @$$!!!! Also, I notice this race is being divided among racial and actually possibly(from what I can sort of tell anyway)gender lines. Look at the fact that his endorsers that VOTED for the Iraq Resolution are all male(again from the ones I know of that he has anyway), and yet he CRITICIZES Hillary for voting for THE SAME THING??? There is something really utterly wrong with this picture if you ask me. I'm not a Dem, BUT I DO SUPPORT HILLARY 110% and frnakly your party is so messed up after this election that I don't see how you all are going to fix it.

Oh yea, back to the gender thing. I think Obama's stance on what I was saying is VERY sexist and a double standard if you ask me.

Just my thoughts anyway.

Posted by: Hillary DID help NY: Courtney WNY State | Mar 2, 2008 7:16:08 PM

It's nice to see all the neocons backing Hilliary and "threatening" to vote for McCain if she doesn't get to be the nominee. I never knew loyality to the war and the neocon establishment was so prevalent among so-called "Democratic" voters. I guess this evidence proves once and for all that a vote for Hilliary really is a vote for BUSH. Don't blame Obama voters for voting for a Democrat in the Democrat party. If your such a Republican, I'm sure that McCain will suit you just fine. Forgive us if we choose an alternative to neo-con John with Obama. But don't worry John will still be there for you in November, satisfied???

Posted by: cba | Mar 2, 2008 7:20:37 PM

Paul - exactly... Clinton's record on national security is very similar to McCain's but they have some distinct differences. Their vote on the 2002 authorization was the same making that not an issue of an election between them. They also have major differences on most other campaign issues. So if Clinton is the nominee against McCain, she would run on policy relating to all campaign issues while McCain would run on a typical Rep platform with the exception of immigration since he leans the same way Clinton does. McCain of course would point out he has more experience than Clinton and Bill Clinton has already begun a defense for her in the latest stump speeches.

With Obama, experience and judgement would be the key issues McCain will hit him with but I think the Rep machine could possibly take him down with the Rezko issues depending on what details become public or even with perception. They are very good at convincing people of guilt without proof.

Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 2, 2008 7:22:55 PM

I am still waiting on someone to tell me what her great amount of experience is? Is it the 80 countries she visited on the tax payers dime? If so then people need to recall back in..I think 96 when she got in trouble for taking "vacations" in other countries where she also used tax payers money to take her friends along...big difference in experience and what she was doing.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 2, 2008 7:28:37 PM

"How come everyone is saying that Sen Clinton should get out now in order not to divide the party but no one says that about Huckabee who has no chance of catching up to McCain"

Bad example. Some in the GOP are indeed unhappy with Huckabee wearing out his welcome. He is now just an irritant to McCain and has no chance.

I guess Hillary will become an irrelevent nuisance with no chance.

Hillary = DNC Huckabee?

Posted by: Jane | Mar 2, 2008 7:29:18 PM

Typical Obama spin. He is supported by a ton of people who supported the resolution and also had kind words for people who voted for it who have yet to or are not supporting him (ie Edwards) but he seems to state that if you voted for the war resolution you do not have the right experience or judgement to be President. Why did not he say this about John Kerry in 2004?

Posted by: Eric | Mar 2, 2008 7:30:12 PM

Obama's entire campaign has been based on now his infamous SPEECH (words) against the war in Iraq! I ask: WHAT DID HE DO IN THE WAKE OF THAT SPEECH?!?!?!!?

Posted by: DMK | Mar 2, 2008 7:32:36 PM

After all is said and done and after all the latest desperate bla bla bla of all you Clinton supporters, the bottom line is(as you all know)that Obama will win this thing folks!

He already got the momentum on his side and you don´t need to be a brain surgent to realise how America is yearning for real change today.

Go Obama-the JFK incarnation!

Posted by: Billa | Mar 2, 2008 7:33:01 PM

alot of people denounced the war and many in high public offices. What gives him the right to think that he is qualified just because of his words.

Posted by: stevem | Mar 2, 2008 7:34:53 PM

Billa,
YOu think Obama will win? You are in for a big surprise! The Clintons are FIGHTERS! And we want the next president to be a fighter, not some puny boy!

Posted by: DMK | Mar 2, 2008 7:37:12 PM

OBAMA, you address the following questions which have been sent to you in a letter, you know by WHOM!

1) Did you direct your top economic adviser - Austan Goolsbee - to tell the Canadian government that your speeches railing against NAFTA are just political rhetoric? If so, why?

2) Are you aware that Mr. Goolsbee held a secret meeting with the Canadian Counsel General Georges Rioux? Have you spoken with Mr. Goolsbee about that meeting and will you repudiate his comments?

3) Why has Mr. Goolsbee been unwilling to deny that he discussed your positions on NAFTA with Mr. Rioux? Why won't your campaign disclose the full details about that meeting?

4) Given these reports, why should Ohioans believe that you will act on the campaign promises you have made about NAFTA?

5) Sen. Clinton has issued a comprehensive plan to fix NAFTA. Why haven't you done so as well?

Posted by: DMK | Mar 2, 2008 7:40:45 PM

I looked at Hussein Obama's face, he is so arrogant. Just same as Bush!!!

Posted by: John | Mar 2, 2008 7:41:56 PM

Who the heck is Obama, some parvenue from Chicago, to rip Hillary on her foreign policy? NOBAMA read this: ... They are among the nearly 30 general and flag officers who have endorsed Hillary Clinton to be the Nation’s next President. Senator Clinton has received five endorsements in recent days, including those of General Henry Hugh Shelton, the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral William Owens, the former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba. Overall she has the endorsement of two former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, five admirals and generals at the four-star rank. They are in addition to over 2,000 veterans and military retirees who are members of Senator Clinton’s national and state veterans’ steering committees.

The list of those taking part in today’s call is below.

General Wesley Clark
Admiral William Owens
General Johnnie E. Wilson
Lt. Gen. Joe Ballard
Lt. Gen. Claudia J. Kennedy
Vice Admiral Joseph A. Sestak
Lt. Gen. Frederick E. Vollrath
Major General George A. Buskirk, Jr.
Major General Paul D. Eaton
Rear Admiral Stuart Platt
Rear Admiral David Stone
Major General Antonio M. Taguba
Brigadier General Michael Dunn
Brigadier General Evelyn "Pat" Foote
Brigadier General John M. Watkins, Jr.
Brigadier General Jack Yeager
Former Secretary of the Army and Veterans Affairs Togo West
Former Secretary of the Navy, John Dalton

Posted by: DMK | Mar 2, 2008 7:47:24 PM

Simple question: Besides being the wife of Bill, what qualifies Hilary so much more than Obama? Just wondering...

(I will remember that Laura Bush has enough experiences to run the country just because I say so)

Posted by: TheOne | Mar 2, 2008 7:47:31 PM

What is more important? Good for this country or good for our party? Senator Clinton is the best candidate, why she should quit? I'd like Huckbee's word: "stay in the race until one get the magic number." Senator Clinton, you will make it!

Posted by: PPDIRIX | Mar 2, 2008 7:49:06 PM

Poor Obama; he really has done *nothing* but a single speech in 2002....

He has NO military ssupport; noone has any respect in the military for him as a commander in chief or a leader...

Sen. Clinton has received in the last few days the endorsements and teh outspoken support and trust of all the TOP military brass, including that
Gen. Hugh Shelton and Antonio Taguba(among many many others) as the most qualified person to LEAD
and be COMMANDER IN CHIEF !!

This fact of exceeding importance to the people of this country has of course not been reported TODAY by the MSM.

Obama has no judgment whatsover: Rezko, Rezko Rezko...

Obama has no leadership skills whatsoever. In fact he should be impeached for dereliction of duty as a US Senator for failing to do his *job* as chairman of the powerful Foreign Relation Subcommitee on Europe that oversees NATO and among other his mission in Afghanistan.. He didn't convene a single meeting. No IDEAS, NO Initiatives, Nothing...

He did not pay attention to one of the most important a US SEnator can be entrusted with.

Why would he behave any different as President?

Why would anyone entrust him with the highest job of the land?

He is even ashamed of his middle name...
What a character!!

NO OBAMA.

Posted by: Nod | Mar 2, 2008 7:49:37 PM

One thing I Love about this campaign and online forum: You seem find more people in the online forums supporting Hilary and more people supporting Obama in real life. Why is that?

Posted by: TheOne | Mar 2, 2008 7:51:41 PM

Obama is done. the campaign will go on past Tuesday. Why: because $35 million will turn into $60 in March, the country will continue to get tired of his song and dance and will go back to Britney.

REZKO will sing and implicate him, and we'll all feel better because somehow we ended up with the right choice for president.

HILLARY 08,12

Posted by: TheGoodJuan | Mar 2, 2008 7:52:28 PM

Hillary invaded Iraq.

Bill funded the Taliban. ($3B to Pakistan 1995-1998).

Bill cheated (again) on Hillary and Hillary decided to stand up against him by running for president?

They should have a reality show, outside of the states. Get out of our country.

Posted by: Patriot | Mar 2, 2008 7:54:01 PM

Here are facts on why not for Hill:

a) 35 years experience - biggest Fairy
Tale, no plan B after Super Tuesday
with a bankrupt campaign that
resulted in a draw. She has gall to
insult Gen. Petraeus on the surge
with her "suspension in disbelief"
after outsourcing responsibility of
National Intelligence Estimate to
other people before voting for Iraq
war. She has no compunction to lie
nor admit personal mistakes as if
she is our Queen to look down on
others.

b) Media Bias - the Clintons are
actually suffering from Media
Adulation Deficit Disorder - MADD,
another term is pea-green envy.
Habitual SHOW-OFF as in last debate
on Medvedev where she jumps in to
answer for the undirected question
but has the gall to complain why
always asking her the first question !

c) Hard Work - Claims she works hard,
yet produced nothing much of
national significance in Senate as
more of her efforts are worthy of
Tammany Hall patronage for local
politicians. However, Hill's face is
always on national media as she
always managed to position herself
in front of cameras. Compare that to
Barack's bill of bipartisan bills
safeguarding nuclear materials and
ethics reform for Congress. In
other words, she always appear busy,
but busy doing nothing ! If she is
really that good in bipartisanship,
why can't she produced a Universal
Healthcare bill in over six years
she was in the Senate ?

d) Ready - as the Enabler-In-Chief but
not as Commander-In-Chief if we
include her part of "35 years
experience" in Blackhawk Down, wag
the dog episode after USS Cole and
Monicagate. Where was she when all
these happened and it they didn't
even happen at 3:00 AM !

e) Universal Healthcare - mandate is
enforced by Wage Garnishment despite
denial now, as shown on ABC network
by admitting to a "mechanism" that
will be (forced employees to enroll)
applied on wages. She did not deny
it when Garnishment was used then,
but now denies it.

f) Smart - just a mediocre law graduate
who flunk the Bar Exam, then bragged
about knowing Bhutto family story by
incorrectly saying father was also
assassinated. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto
was hanged by the military regime
that overthrew him.

g) Vetted - refused to release Tax
Returns unless she is the nominee !
She must have something to hide for,
so protective of her secret source
of wealth, when they are personally
bankrupt after leaving public
housing (WH). Won't release her WH
papers, passing blame for delay to
Bush, who denied her charges, thus
proving as habitual liar.

h) Doer - spectacular flop of
Hillarycare is the showcase of her
doing. She produces less Senate
output and of mediocre quality than
Barack's first 2 years alone !

i) Talker - Failed to keep her own
promise to wage a national campaign
as she skips a lot of states by
reason of a bankrupt campaign and
resulting in her failing campaign.

j) Fighter - code word for divisiveness
hiding under the cover of waging
campaign against special interest
while hidden hands accept campaign
contributions. Accumulated biggest
campaign funds last year but still
managed to overspend her campaign
into bankruptcy. Very good at
parsing words and moving goal post
for accepting defeat.

k) Result - trailing campaign after
almost a year-long lead among all
candidates. Squandered all her
advantages and even her biggest
lobbyists can help her with her
campaign fund raising now !

l) Focus management - all talk and
never knows how to do it, producing
debacles after debacles and with
scandals. Hsu campaign fund raiser,
Hillarycare, Hill Force One to cover
Iowa campaign for a 3rd place
finish, bankrupt campaign resorted
to personal loan to survive, no
contingency plan for campaign beyond
Super Tuesday.

Posted by: wilson | Mar 2, 2008 7:54:34 PM

Obama, the Chicago parvenu,is the most arrogant politician in recent history.... right there with Dubya....

Posted by: Obama Hubris | Mar 2, 2008 7:55:55 PM

Please Hillary keep going to the end. Starting Monday with the Rezko trial and all the articles being written in the Chicago newspapers, all obama's shady characters are coming to light. It was written today in the Chicago Suntimes that the GOP is already investigating Obama's shady acquaintances and asking lots of questions.

Mr. McCain is going to have a field day with Obama.

In fact, I think Obama will be done once this trial comes to an end.

Posted by: stevem | Mar 2, 2008 7:58:24 PM

He may have tried to be arrogant but he won't match the Clintons ever, he's simply too genuine to be playing politics with the ever-arrogant Clintons... He must stick to his calling which is to bring hope and unite the country.

OBAMA 08!!!

Posted by: TheOne | Mar 2, 2008 7:58:27 PM

He better pray for a miracle, because Mr. Obama is going down once the GOP gets ahold of him and his shady acquaintances.

Posted by: stevem | Mar 2, 2008 8:02:02 PM

There are republicans that will NEVER vote for Mc-Cain because they believe he's not conservative enough and there are democrats, including some latinos in Texas as we saw it on TV this week, who will NEVER vote for Obama because he's black....

HOWEVER, these two men are leading the poll as of today

Posted by: TheOne | Mar 2, 2008 8:04:44 PM

Chavez just sent troops to the border with Colombia. I like to knwo what Obama woulld do about that versus Hillary. This will come up. Here is what I think will happen:

Hillary will answer, then Obama will say: whatever she says. hehe

Posted by: TheGoodJuan | Mar 2, 2008 8:05:20 PM

I'm looking forward to the strong minded voters of Texas, Ohio, Vermont and Rhode Island to save the Democrats from utter embarrassment.

The race in the general election will be tough. And we've got to think twice before putting up a junior senator who would rather vote PRESENT on legislation than take a stand.

You have the power, get us back on track!

Posted by: OhioNative | Mar 2, 2008 8:11:55 PM

It was Hillary Clinton who passed the bill in congress to get the armour for our troops in Iraq. That is a known fact. Where was Mr. Obama when Hillary was doing all she could to keep our troops safe. Oh! How stupid of me...He was negotiating a $2,000,000.00 house deal, and a $625,000.00 adjacent lot deal for his and MIchelle's residence per his good buddy...Rezko!!!!!

Posted by: stevem | Mar 2, 2008 8:13:03 PM

Obama's experience shows when he wants to invade Pakistan, give healthcare and driver's license to illegals, will not agree to support Israel, supported the PLO, associated wit muslim criminals for 17 years and has raised concern from Israel and Canada. It is a fact, Obama has less foreign relations knowledge than Bush. This is this a "change" for the "worst".

Posted by: james | Mar 2, 2008 8:13:16 PM

It's simply dishonest to try to spin Hillary's vote to authorize the war. Most of us remember the millions of people across the world who demonstrated against this war. When you cast such a historical vote, without even reading the NIE report, is criminal.

Posted by: JustinA | Mar 2, 2008 8:21:24 PM

Hillary will win if Obama wins in every state. When the Resko trial starts, the real facts, concerning Obama and the the muslim criminals, will be public. The DNC will drop Obama like a "hot rock".

Posted by: leon | Mar 2, 2008 8:22:35 PM

First of all...some of you really need to do research and get your facts. straight. I remember 2002-2003 very clearly..and the government had no clear evidence for invading Iraq. I was against it from the start. Even France was against it..remember when everybody hated France because they refused to be an ally in a "dumb" war?? Mrs. Clinton was not making a career risking decision..actually she did what was POLITICALLY POPULAR.Obama on the other hand went against the word of his advisers and while running for re-election to the state senate...spoke out courageously against the war. He could have ended his career right there..but he stated that if he can't stand for what he believes in he doesn't care about his career.

Posted by: Brian | Mar 2, 2008 8:26:22 PM

African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats they’ll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.


Posted by: Edward Franco | Mar 2, 2008 8:27:39 PM

On 60 Minutes a little while ago Clinton would barely say that she knows that Obama isn't a Muslim. Then she turned it around to herself saying she's the victim of rumors too. That woman is unbelieveable. It was her campaign workers that started the false email and it somehow gets sent out right before a primary in a state. Hillary Clinton makes me sick because she is so unethical.

Posted by: Janet from NH | Mar 2, 2008 8:33:17 PM

KardasiaPrime..stop making this about sexism. What you don't seem to get is..it's not a coincidence that 40% of the country dislike Clinton. That's because people want to actually be PROUD of their first female president. I'd love to see Kathleen Sebelius for example become president. Not some woman who claims first lady as experience, refuses to release her tax returns, can't even properly run her campaign, does what's politically popular, and ignores the small states

Posted by: Mike | Mar 2, 2008 8:33:39 PM

I have been to Hillary's and Obama's campaign speech. Obama puts on a great show, lots of words, glitter, but no feeling. I believe some parts were from a Bush speech. Hillary's speech was more specific, discussed solutions, seemed to care. She talked to some of us after the speech, she is real. Hillary made me feel comfortable about her being president. There are too many serious problems with Obama, as of late. I firmly believe Hillary is the right person for the job.