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US Ambassador: Leaked Canadian Memo Interfered With U.S. Politics
March 06, 2008 4:24 PM
ABC News' Jennifer Parker Reports: U.S. Ambassador to Canada David Wilkins said Thursday that that the leak of a Canadian diplomatic memo about Sen. Barack Obama's anti-NAFTA rhetoric amounted to Canadian interference in America's political process.
"I guess you could say it certainly shouldn't have happened; it was interference," Wilkins told CBC Radio in Ottawa Thursday.
"I think it's obviously a bump in the road but it's not something that's insurmountable, and we move on from it," he said, according to CBC. "But again, I don't think it's something the Canadian government did in an official capacity and I think they've expressed their deep regret."
Wilkins, a former Speaker of the South Carolina legislature, was referring to a Canadian diplomatic memo, leaked initially to the Associated Press, about a conversation between Austan Goolsbee, Obama's senior economics adviser and Georges Rioux, Canada's consul general in Chicago.
Goolsbee suggested "that much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy" the memo said. While Goolsbee has acknowledged the Feb. 8 meeting with Rioux, he has denied making those remarks, and has said he went to the Chicago consulate for a tour, and in his capacity as an economics professor at the University of Chicago.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said this week the government would investigate who leaked the diplomatic memo, first obtained by the AP, and later obtained by Canada's CanWest News Service.
Last Wednesday, the Canadian Television network reported that two unnamed sources said a "senior member" of Obama's campaign team had called Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador in Washington, in the last month to warn him that Obama would be ratcheting up rhetoric against the North American Free Trade Agreement, but he should "not be worried about what Obama says about NAFTA," adding, "It's just campaign rhetoric. It's not serious."
However, a source close to the Canadian prime minister's office told ABC News last Thursday that the original communication was between Goolsbee and Rioux. The source also said Brodie had leaked the initial story to CTV.
CTV also initially reported sources suggested the Clinton campaign may have given a similar warning to Ottawa, a charge the Clinton campaign has repeatedly denied.
"We flatly deny the report," Clinton spokesperson Phil Singer told ABC News' Jake Tapper Thursday. "We did not sanction nor would we ever sanction anyone to say any such a thing. We give the Canadian government blanket immunity to reveal the name of anyone they think they heard from."
ABC News spoke to Goolsbee last Thursday, who said the Canadian consulate in Chicago pursued a relationship with him.
"They contacted me at one point to say 'hello' because their office is around the corner but it is not correct that I contacted them at all." Goolsbee told ABC News.
In an interview with the AP where Obama campaign spokesperson Bill Burton was present, Goolsbee said he was invited over for a tour of the Canadian consulate in Chicago, and went in his capacity as a University of Chicago economics professor.
However the Canadian diplomatic memo explains the Canadians were interested in Goolsbee because of his ties to the Obama campaign, at one point saying he "is known to be a key member of Obama's "brain trust."
In an interview with TIME, Obama said the campaign didn't know Goolsbee had talked to the Canadians.
"Frankly, none of us were aware that Austan had gone to the Canadian consulate but what was entirely true was our characterization that no discussions — which [it] somehow was... a wink and a nod to the Canadian government — took place," Obama told TIME.
"It turns out yes, Goolsbee was invited over and someone naively didn't understand that what he thought were casual conversations might end up in the memo to the Prime Minister of Canada. But, what he said turns out to be entirely consistent [with] what I've been saying on the campaign trail, which is I wasn't interested in repealing NAFTA but I was interested in strengthening the labor and environmental provisions."
March 6, 2008 in Bush, George W., Kucinich, Dennis, Tancredo, Tom, Thompson, Fred | Permalink | User Comments (104)
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Gion I'm talking about early rumors and not the memo itself. There were earlier rumors the Clinton camp contacted Canadians even before the memo came to light. Then CTV got into picture, Amb. Wilson got into picture and the rest you know. Like I said earlier I'm more concerned with the FL and MI situation.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 6, 2008 5:47:32 PM
Even though I dont get a vote, from my view up here I'm simply angry that the Clinton camp has attacked on things they may have done themselves and arent following the rules.
FL and MI deserve a voice however it should be do-overs or nothing - Obama followed the rules, there is no reason to reward Clinton for not doing so.
More disturbing is her continuous Rezko attacks when it is shown today that Rezkos co defendants are all Clinton financial backers and have historically always opposed Obama.
Posted by: Gion | Mar 6, 2008 5:50:05 PM
(in addition, the tax returns demand should be taken very seriously - when Hillary ran against Lazio she demanded he release his tax returns and he stalled and stalled. how convenient now that the shoe is on the other foot she stalls herself)
Posted by: Gion | Mar 6, 2008 5:55:56 PM
Wow over one million plus people voted for Hillary and here we have some saying Obama won Texas because he has 6 delegates, ok take your 6 delegates in the GE and go run against McCain and lets see the results.
Is'nt it strange when Hillary had more delegates Obama was all over the place saying that the delegates did not count it was the popular vote, and the delegates should not vote their conscience but rather go with what the people wanted, hence the reason for his camp bully some delegates to come on his side because he won the state.
Why is it now so different as Hillary won and is leading in the popular vote and with the registered democrat vote that here we have Obama camp saying its the delegates numbers that count.
So we are now no longer interested in who the registered democrats wants and voted for, under Obama's logic its the delegates, independents and crossover voters that should count even if they may of voted for him just to set the party up for a fall.
I am sure he knows this but he is so power drunk he rather lose this election rather than doing what is best for the party and the democrat voters.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 6, 2008 5:57:15 PM
Gion you have a right to be concerned. In the normal world smart governments or camps looking to govern talk with each other behind closed doors on a regular basis. It does appear that someone in your PM office broke an unwritten rule. I have no problem with Obama or Clinton talking with each other, matter of fact I encourage each to do so for the betterment of us all. BTW, my wife is Canadian and that's why I follow your politics up there.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 6, 2008 5:57:54 PM
It looks to me like: Obama camp had a meeting and hinted at rhetoric forthcoming which i believe, Obama was not told they did this which i also believe, CTV media (not the govt) provided the report, the source, and the evidence of their report, unknowing Obama continues to deny it and refuses to fire anyone, The Canadian govt panicked and released the memo and is embarrassed about the CTV media because of an accusation of interference, the govt tried to cover for Obama but its politicians read the news, now the govt is trying to apologize on behalf of the country... end result? there is still the fact of a meeting and the warning about rhetoric concerning NAFTA and the Obama camp is not holding its camp accountable... he should have fired him as soon as he the guy admitted to having the meeting and discussion about NAFTA... Obama is not the prez and his people who are not accountable to the American taxpayers have no place having discussions of any kind with foregin governments... they could have upset the balance of existing agreements and national security... Bush was right on that point... he should stick to his race against Hillary and stop interfering in government affairs
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 6, 2008 6:01:14 PM
Obama is such as liar. The only thing I see him being able to effectively change is his stories - thankfully, half the people aren't buying them, only the followers are.
Posted by: Jeff | Mar 6, 2008 6:02:47 PM
SJ, at no point in this entire contest has Hillary been ahead in pledged delegates - she has only led in superdelegates all along, and that lead gets slimmer and slimmer. Obama has won more blue states, has won more red states, has won more swing states, has redrawn the electoral map.
Mark Penn has justified superdelegates over and over again saying "its about delegates" - so I dont think you have the right to say Obama cant claim Texas a victory. His caucus win proves to me his organizational team is far superior. dedicated voters and GOTV teams to win in November are needed.
Dogsoldier:
I am kicking and screaming within our own media outlets to have Ian Brodie fired. Rioux may even be in trouble. I am probably most angry at CTV's Tom Clark, whose lazy incorrect reporting started this wave which hurts all Democrats, not just Obama. it is outrageous that our government would interfere in the US' democratic process. Say Obama wins the presidency, how does he work with Harper with something like this behind him?
Posted by: Goon | Mar 6, 2008 6:04:44 PM
Rob, lol. That's funny. Exactly DCVoter, the Canadian Government is scrambling to somehow make this thing disappear.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 6, 2008 6:07:14 PM
Hillary is just lucky that (if she did call the embassy), the embassy didn't take notes.
Posted by: Goon | Mar 6, 2008 6:08:15 PM
Dion - Obama's name was in the opening arguments of the Rezko trial. I am sure we will find out much more soon.
The TX delegates are unfairly apportioned because they are done by number of registered Dems. So a district with fewer registered Dems gets fewer delegates. This gave Obama and huge advantage because he won urban areas. However, the outpouring of voters strongly opposed to Obama still overcame that advantage in the primaries so Clinton's win in TX is much more significant than what delegate counts show. For the caucus delegates, the rampant improprieties are going to cause major problems and I dont think we will know the official delegates awarded for some time since this is now a legal matter. This is not being caused by Clinton... the voters recorded a lots of stuff with the vidcam's on their cell phones and blackberries. The voters are outraged and should be! Clinton and Obama both should be concerned and support the investigations. Obama not being supportive of that just proves he is a sly politician only interested in what he wants not what the voters want.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 6, 2008 6:09:22 PM
Who cares who leaked it. We Canadians would like to see NAFTA opened again too. This time we will make you pay more for our gas, water, food, wood, electricity, etc. Do you think you would fair better with a new agreement. Do you feel lucky?
Think about it.:-P
Posted by: The Happy Canadian | Mar 6, 2008 6:10:39 PM
Goon I know it is not the PEOPLE of Canada who released the memo information. Guess I have to leave that where it is otherwise I'd be commenting ON Canadian political events beyond my control.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 6, 2008 6:13:37 PM
Even if Obama knew what his camp did would he come out and admit it? I don't think so he is a liar and will try his best to cover his tracks on this,
Maybe he told his church and Farakhen the same thing don't worry too much about what I say on the campaign trial its just political talk to fool the gullible.
Posted by: SJ | Mar 6, 2008 6:15:22 PM
has anyone seen the story by NBC's chuck Todd (first read) that they just posted ...they are saying that the Clinton Camp is actually now the one being reported to have started the NAFTA-gate"
and there are several witnesses to what Brodie said...that the initial calls came from Clinton
I guess it is in the toronto globe and mail.
Posted by: dl | Mar 6, 2008 6:18:10 PM
DCVoter - I have seen the Hillary campaign complain over and over that many primaries and caucuses are open to non-democrats
the TX primary is open and the caucuses are closed, and Obama still blew them out. In fact in Dallas if you didnt know, the chair - a Hillary supporter, trying to steal the results and leave when Obama won in a blowout, taking 23 delagetes to 0
face it, selection processes in general are messed up. but in the end if i trust something more than another for what can win in November - i look to who is organized and who wins people win he campaigns - obama was behind over 20 points in TX just weeks ago and he closed the gap. His people were on the ground when the Clintons didnt even know about the caucus/primary breakdown. if you're gonna complain about the way delegates are proportioned, well hell, take a look at the electoral college while you're at it. Thats the math that counts, and again - currently Obama wins states Hillary can't and remains in play if not leading all the other Dem strongholds. I simply want a Dem to win in November, I can ignore who has the better plan because it doesnt affect me THAT much (I'm Canadian) - I just want a Dem to win and by the math and the evidence, its Obama. sorry!
Posted by: Gion | Mar 6, 2008 6:19:51 PM
dogsoldier - we dont need to defend ourselves :P - liberals would leave us alone, and Republicans dont want 10 new Democratic states! suckers!
I tease, but theres truth there.
MSNBC has picked up the CBC/Globe and Mail story, and Chuck Todd just covered it on MSNBC.
Posted by: Gion | Mar 6, 2008 6:25:40 PM
Hi ABC,
Given all of the attention that ABC and other media outlets have given the leaked Canadian memo, it is important that Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s chief of staff, Ian Brodie’s comments be broadcast. The following article from the Globe and Mail says that it was actually Senator Clinton’s campaign that contacted Canadian officials not to take her comments about NAFTA too seriously. Please be fair and make this story public and give it the same attention that the allegations of a cover up from Senator Obama’s campaign.l
Posted by: Garth | Mar 6, 2008 6:26:34 PM
NO Authority - he didnt, the Chicago Consul contacted Goolsbee who met unofficially from the Obama campaign while on his own business.
CBC on the othe rhand, alleges that Clinton called the embassy, which Clinton denies. Choose to believe it or not.
Posted by: Gion | Mar 6, 2008 6:28:43 PM
Gion - Obama did not win TX... and the caucus results are in question because of the number of improprieties
Mathematically - neither candidate will get the number of pledged delegates for the nom outright... the superdelegates will factor into the count no matter what because those are the rules
Currently, Obama has not won the necessary states in the primary needed to beat the Republicans in November. Clinton on the other hand has. The superdelegates will take that into consideration and so should the voters. Smart ones who want to beat the Reps will.
Posted by: DCVoter | Mar 6, 2008 6:29:11 PM
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